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Minutes: Nov. 8th Conference Call



 

Great Lakes Regional Toxic Air Emissions Inventory

Steering Committee Conference Call Minutes

 

November 8th, 2006

 

Participants

Illinois: Buzz Asselmeier

Indiana:

Michigan: Dennis McGeen, Jim Lax and Allan Ostrander

Minnesota: Chun Yi and Dan Steber

New York: Carlos Mancilla

Ohio: Tom Velalis

Ontario: Cong Doan

Pennsylvania: John Hulsberg and Karen Gee

Wisconsin: Orlando Cabrera-Rivera

GLC: Jon Dettling

EPA:

Other: Mark Young

 

RAPIDS Design Diagram

 

Following the last call, Mark Young posted an MS Access file that represented a design concept for a new database structure. Chun Yi sent some initial comments.

 

The current RAPIDS data model has a source-device-process-stream structure, whereas this new design follows more closely the design of the NEI. The hierarchy used is essentially that which Mark presented during the Toronto meeting, which is based on the NEI hierarchy. In the new model, devices are analogous to emission units. For each process, there are both throughputs and emissions. This eliminates the stream table and both of these are essentially child records of the device records.

 

Orlando inquired whether the current data model has the connections records used previously. Mark replied that there is an entity within one of the tables called "configuration structures" that is intended to describe how various entities are connected.

For example, a source can have multiple stacks, but only if it has multiple processes assigned to it. Each process can have a stack assigned. Therefore, if an emission unit has multiple processes, they can be given multiple stacks. However, a single emission unit cannot have multiple stacks if there are not multiple processes.

 

There was some discussion of the start and end date records. Generally, the start and end dates for records in the past have been the beginning and end of the year. There may be some exceptions to this in the future, such as seasonal emissions or attempts to do daily emissions. New York uses some seasonal adjustments, such as with surface coatings. People generally agreed that it would be preferable to have the ability to have start and end dates that differ from the beginning and end of years. Chun Yi mentioned that the current RAPIDS will default the date and time values are defaulted if nothing is entered. Orlando mentioned that some of his current work  involves using seasonal emission periods.

 

Mark asked if there was anyone who currently sees a need to have an ability to specify time of day. Carlos replied that he didn't feel they were.

 

Mark discussed that he has been considering whether the emission period can be used as the way to associate emissions to throughputs. Currently, all throughputs and emissions have start and end dates in RAPIDS because they are activity records and this is required in those records. Part of Mark's concern is finding a way to ensure that the timeframes are consistent between throughput and emissions. If the dates and times are stored separately for each, the protocols  for  how this information is input and stored can lead to some inconsistencies.

 

John Hulsberg bought up the importance of being able to enter site level emissions that aren't associated with any throughput. This comes into play when facilities consider their throughputs to be confidential. Tom expressed that confidential information should be kept within each state and not exported to RAPIDS when states submit data. It was agreed that there is a requirement to be able to mark throughputs confidential. Chun Yi noted that there are other items that companies may want to have marked confidential, such as SCCs or process descriptions. Chun Yi suggested having a confidential field within the source field. Mark noted that if this was done, there would need to be some sort of protocol within the system for how the confidentially marked sources get handled when data is being exported. Chun Yi expressed that if a source is marked as confidential, the only information that should be exported for that source is the source-level emissions.

 

Mark reiterated that the current structure eliminates the stream level emissions and all emissions would occur at the process level. Both emissions and throughput would have their own tables, rather than being part of the activity table. By associating emissions directly with processes and sources, emissions information should be quickly accessible on both of these levels.

 

Mark asked whether there was a desire to have emissions associated with control devices;  that is, would it be desired to be able to back-track from emissions to see which control devices were used in estimating them.

 

John Hulsberg inquired how people have been dealing with estimating controlled emissions with the general lack of controlled factors in FIRE. Orlando explained that  RAPIDS  typically uses the uncontrolled factors and then applied a control efficiency.

 

Chun Yi stated that in the current structure, the activities table contains both the controlled and uncontrolled emissions. In the new structure, just the final emissions would be shown, unless changes are made to allow us to do otherwise. Tom questioned why it would be desired to show the uncontrolled emissions. Orlando noted that the NEI required that states specify whether emissions are controlled or uncontrolled. Tom mentioned that the "control status" field is one of the items that has been mentioned as possibly being removed in future NEI versions. In the new system, without the streams, it may not be necessary to retain the control information with the ultimate emission records.

 

Currently in the NEI, the control table has the device and pollutant information and has the control and capture efficiency. This is where the control devices are defined. Orlando raised a question regarding how control efficiencies are stored and used for cases, such as arsenic, where controls might exist on PM emissions and there might also be control efficiencies for the particular pollutant. Mark mentioned that having the control information retained with the emissions is not cumbersome in terms of the programming or the calculations in the system. It will add some to the storage demands of the files, but not very significantly.

 

Mark discussed that in the future he will begin doing Entity Relationship Diagrams (ERDs) to show the database design, perhaps with some excel files accompanying them. The Access file will begin getting unwieldy rather quickly.

 

Generally, the NEI has far less information on relationships and some of this will need to be improved in order to provide some of the desired RAPIDS functionality. In the current RAPIDS, relationships are very well defined. There is a need to have a balance between these two. Chun Yi mentioned that there is a conference call tomorrow with EPA Region 5 that will discuss NEI modifications. Chun Yi will check on whether its appropriate to have Mark joint this call. Mark will continue working to find the best balance of the positive features of the current RAPIDS and the NEI to meet the group's needs. With the data model, there is some flexibility in how data is stored within it, so some changes can be accommodated just by changing the data storage protocol, rather than changes to the data structure.

 

Mark went through the issues raised by Chun Yi in her email. The first comment regards the "rap_inventories" table, which is the top-level table defining the basic information about each inventory. This is the additional level that would potentially allow multiple inventories. Chun Yi's question is whether is allows only multiple year's inventories, or whether it allows separation of, for example, CAP and HAP inventory. When submitting to EPA, a state can specify whether the inventory is CAP, HAP or both together. This is in reference to the inventory type field. Chun Yi feels that this information should not be at the inventory level, because it may be desired to have CAP and HAP emissions in a single inventory. Chun Yi felt that much of the information in this table that defines the inventory does not belong at the same level as the inventory year.

 

The second comment refers to the SOURCE_SUB_TYPE field in rap_sources. Mark had proposed having four major source types of point, area, nonroad and mobile. Biogenic would be another possibility. Chun Yi inquired whether sub-types like POTWs, landfills, and airports could be added also.  Chun Yi's point is that reporting for some of these source types are reported in the point source format, but are other types of sources (area or nonroad). Tom added that for many of these categories, EPA is urging the states to report these in point source format. For example, dry cleaners could be listed by identifying all the locations of these facilities within the state. Chun Yi discussed that she currently often has to alter the source type field within RAPIDS in order to alter how the data is exported to NIF (point or area format). Because the reporting type is not always strictly defined by the source type, there will need to be some consideration given in designing the export utility to a way to provide some flexibility in this.

 

Chun Yi's fourth comment concerned how one deals with a single process that has multiple control devices. Mark stated that there is a choice in how we design this part. There is an option to either use an aggregate record for each process that includes multiple control devices as multiple fields. There is also an option to have multiple control records, one for each device.

 

Questions 3, 5, and 6 can be discussed at a later time.

 

Benzo(a)pyrene

For the most part, the benzo(a)pyrene updates have been submitted. There are still a few states who are working on some issues in getting their data into the repository. For these states, Jon has gotten a summary of the updates and has been able to use that to fill in missing data within the report. Jon should be able to get a revised draft report completed and sent to the group within the next 1-2 weeks for review. Jon will follow up with Karen in Pennsylvania to see whether they have any additional updates to include.

 

MDI

Based on the discussion on the last call, Jon emailed the API industry rep, Dennis, regarding the MDI issue. This item is essentially just waiting for a response from API as to whether they want to move forward in doing this work or not. If there is no response in the next several days, Jon will try to follow up with them. John Hulsberg noted that he and Karen Gee had some questions they had wanted to ask Ann Pope regarding the NEI's MDI emissions for Pennsylvania. The architectural coating emissions of MDI for their state in the NEI are inexplicably high and Pennsylvania has not figured out the rationale for that.

 

Area Sources

As there is little time, this issue will be put off until the next call. Jon sent a revision to his area-source spreadsheet recently. Chun Yi mentioned that she thinks the traffic marking and pesticide usage SCCs may be classified in this table as part of the solvent usage categories.

 

Next In-Person Meeting

The group agreed that Chicago would work best for the next meeting. Jon will check with Suzanne to see which dates are available for a room at the end of January and first two weeks in February.

 

Next Call

The next call will be on Wednesday, Nov. 22 - 2pm Eastern