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Emissions Inventory Conference Call Minutes - November 22, 2006



 

Great Lakes Regional Toxic Air Emissions Inventory

Steering Committee Conference Call Minutes

 

November 22nd, 2006

 

Participants

Illinois: Buzz Asselmeier

Indiana:

Michigan:

Minnesota: Chun Yi and Dan Steber

New York: Carlos Mancilla

Ohio:

Ontario: Cong Doan

Pennsylvania: John Hulsberg and Karen Gee

Wisconsin: Orlando Cabrera-Rivera

GLC: Jon Dettling

EPA:

Other: Mark Young

 

 

RAPIDS Database design update

Mark participated in an EPA call about 2 weeks ago. The call referred to a design document that is informally being referred to as "NIF 4.0." This document have some implications for the group's database design work. At first glance, this looks like a fairly wide deviation from the prior design. They are currently taking comments on this and don't appear to have made any firm decisions. They are currently only working on data elements and haven't really gotten to the design or interchange stages. For example, the NIF3.0 hierarchy we have been discussing doesn't really exist yet for "NIF4.0." There appear to be some opportunities for us to share ideas with them as well. The people leading this sound as though they are very open to input at this point.

 

Mark should be posting some  updated  design  documents  next week and will post the EPA document also.

 

A remaining item from the last call regarding the Access database that was posted and that contained some relationship diagrams is the representation of control devices. In RAPIDS, each control device is usually represented independently. In the NIF format, control devices are usually represented as aggregate records. These records allow multiple devices to be listed within that record, but only allow a single aggregate number for control efficiency. Mark would like to get the group's input as to whether the NEI approach is generally workable, or if something similar to the current RAPIDS control records should be  kept  in their place. Is there a desire to define control equipment at this greater level of detail.

 

In Wisconsin, they have adopted the RAPIDS model and therefore have the control data at this higher level of resolution. However, this may not be necessary for estimation.

 

Mark mentioned that he doesn’t see any restriction in the format preventing multiple control records for a given pollutant from a given device. It's possible that this wouldn’t cause any problems. The bigger issue is whether the group would like to have the control efficiencies aggregated or not. Chun Yi stated that with few people actually using RAPIDS, it may make sense to simply adopt the EPA's format. Carlos noted that AFS has an "aggregate" function that converts from multiple control records to a single efficiency.

 

In the NEI model, there isn’t really a linear connection between originating devices and control devices. This doesn't appear to cause any issues with the use of NEI for its current purposes. Mark would like to ensure that people realize that if the NEI's way of handling this is adopted, the old approach with the connectivities between devices would be phased out.

 

Mark noted that there are some important points to go over with the geographic representation, but this can be done as part of the next call. Mark is hoping to get some ERD documents posted for the group to look at and has been making some progress in getting a database configured in Postgres. We will probably soon move onto a consideration of individual data elements.

 

B(a)p Report draft

A revised b(a)p report was posted on the RAPIDS forum last week. This version includes a preliminary summary of the data following the adjustments made by the states. Jon pointed out some of the major changes since the last version, which included rearrangement of much of the content and the inclusion of a section summarizing the final data. The section that requires the most remaining work is the conclusions section.

 

Chun Yi pointed out that table 5 might be easier to interpret if sources were classified as point, area, etc. The group agreed with this comment and Jon will make the change.

 

Chun Yi also raised a question about non-incineration waste disposal emissions. After further review of his spreadsheet, Jon discovered that a calculation error has caused this number to increase in the final numbers. The actual number for these categories should be less than 1 pound. Jon will make this correction and will file the non-incineration waste disposal categories under "Other point sources" as was done with the original data. This correction will cause a decrease of about 1800 pounds in the final total emissions.

 

Several people commented on figure 5 and the text preceding it regarding relationships of population and emissions. Chun Yi noted that it would be helpful to show such relationships for various source classes, rather than or in addition to the total. Orlando pointed out that we should caution readers from over-interpreting such a figure to imply that population is the major determinant of b(a)p emissions. Jon agreed that this section needs some more work if it is to be retained. Monitoring data have shown a strong correlation to population and b(a)p concentrations. In the case of emissions, it would be preferable to look at the relationship at the county, rather than state-wide level, as population differences can be too averaged out at the state-wide level. Jon has been attempting to query the database for this information and is still working on it. 

 

Orlando pointed out that since metal production is such a large source category for b(a)p, it would be worth while to include a discussion of coke oven gasses and how these are treated differently by different states. Some states report emissions of coke oven gasses as a mixture and others report the individual constituents rather than the mixture. There may therefore be some addition b(a)p from this category that is not being accounted for in the current methodology because it is classified as coke oven gas.

 

It was also pointed out that following the many discussions we've had on crematory emissions, these do not represent a significant b(a)p source in the region once the methods and emission factors that were arrived at are applied.

 

Area sources discussion

The group discussed the table of area source categories that Jon sent prior to the last call and the observations he included in his email about the potential for estimating some area source emissions at the regional level. Each state gave their impressions on whether they though such an approach was feasible or if they preferred to stay with the past approach of each state estimating their own. There was unanimous support for keeping the current approach rather than attempting to do estimations at the regional level. Among the comments people had were that there may be too many inter-state differences to account for and that the regional approach may not really reduce workload by very much. It was therefore agreed to proceed with that approach for the 2005 inventory.

 

There was some discussion about upcoming work to determine which area sources to estimate for the 2005 inventory and the possible need to update some methodologies. It was mentioned that the group might make a decision with some categories to adopt the NEI numbers for certain categories. In addition to updating methodologies that are being used, there could also be additional efforts to increase consistency of which emission factors are being used and which SCCs are being used to report certain area source types. Some changes, such as reassigning SCCs, could be done at the repository level in some cases.

 

Next Meeting

Jon has been attempting to contact Suzanne about room availability. He left a message a few days ago and is waiting to hear back from her. He will try to confirm a date with her and let the group know within the next week so that people can submit travel requests.

 

Next Call

The next teleconferece will be December 13th.