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FW: Draft Minutes - Jan. 10th, 2006



 

Great Lakes Regional Toxic Air Emissions Inventory

Steering Committee Conference Call Minutes

 

January 10, 2006

 

Participants

Illinois: Buzz Asselmeier

Indiana:

Michigan: Dennis McGeen and Allan Ostrander

Minnesota: Chun Yi Wu 

New York: Carlos Mancilla

Ohio: Tom Velalis

Ontario: Cong Doan and Peter Wong

Pennsylvania: John Hulsberg and Karen Gee

Wisconsin: Orlando Cabrera-Rivera

GLC: Jon Dettling

EPA:

Other: Mark Young

 

Programming language

Mark has been reorganizing some of the data elements in the prior version of the design. He's been paying particular attention to computation issues and is working on finding an ideal location for some of the elements that are not in NIF, but are needed for computation. He's also looked into the issue of defining time periods as entities rather than using just start and end dates. Mark will show this during the Chicago meeting and would like to get feedback as to whether people think the approach will work. Mark has also begun looking at the prior set of reference tables from RAPIDS 2.X for inclusion in the new data model.

 

Orlando asked whether is would make sense to have some data, such as for particularly complex sources, to see how they would be represented in the current data model. Mark has been using some of the RAPIDS test data, but this is somewhat old and may not be ideal. If people have other data that might be useful for purposes of mapping how it fits into the framework.

 

Tom asked whether the NEI reference tables would be a sensible starting point. Mark stated that these will be used in addition to the current RAPIDS reference tables. A combination of these will likely be used, depending on the particular type of data and how it is handled in the new data model. In some cases a combined table might be made to assist in conversions. For example, the pollutant code table could contain the original RAPIDS code, the NEI code, the CAS number and other information that might be used elsewhere.

 

The group may need to make a decision whether they would like to begin using the NEI numeric pollutant codes as a primary key or whether they would like to keep the RAPIDS codes, with the capability of mapping to the NEI codes. 

 

Mark also suggested that there are other types of data elements, such as control efficiencies and rule effectiveness that it would be helpful if he had some "real world" data to use to examine the mappings and relationships of these data types.

 

Carlos suggested that the CAS codes could be used for the pollutant codes. John Hulsberg added that the EPA has developed a "decimal CAS" system or something similar where some issues around the potential for duplication due to the hyphens are resolved. PDEP uses this system in many of their databases. Orlando pointed out that one issue with using CAS is that there are some cases where CAS numbers don't exist for pollutants or groups. This would need to be addressed. Mark pointed out that the NEI codes are a hodge-podge of different things; some are CAS numbers (minus the hyphens), some are based on something entirely different.

 

Tom said that the OEPA has just adopted the NEI table as it is for reasons of not having to maintain the table themselves, but just adopting EPA updates when they are available.

 

Orlando suggested adding a field to the RAPIDS' Material Table for the NEI numeric pollutant code. This field is already included in the Rap_Conversions Table.

 

Cong asked whether the Web-FIRE database should be incorporated directly in some way. It may be worth including this information directly. The group will also likely need to do periodic updates of its own to that data. Tom noted that OEPA is developing an approach to include Web-FIRE. He can distribute to the group any documentation they have on this. This will probably include some kind of a reviewed update, where the system detects new records and asks the user if they want to make the additions and replacements.

 

Design issues to discuss at Chicago meeting

In Chicago, Mark is intending to show the data model as it stands. Mark would also like to discuss data storage issues and determine the most efficient way to handle certain types of information, particularly the items that are currently handled in the activities table. Orlando asked Mark to prepare and send in advance a list of items he plans to address. Mark will do so. Jon noted that Pete has been working on the issue of integrating the database design with PostGIS standards for handling of geographic information and can present this to the group. Jon will check on the room location and will send it to the group.

 

RAPIDS Programming Language

Following the last call, Jon and Pete compiled a listing of what they saw as the advantages and disadvantages of both Java and .Net as a language for the RAPIDS application. This was sent to the group in December. They made an effort to include reference to the issues and concerns that others have raised over this issue. Following this, Chun Yi has sent some email correspondence from within their agency discussing the implications of the language choice on their companion software, MIRROR. After examining the issue, it appears that the only case in which use of Java would present a constraint on the MPCA (who's IT personnel program in .Net exclusively) would be if MPCA desired to make direct modifications to the RAPIDS code. Programming stand-alone companion software (such as MIRROR) in another language will not be a problem. Other states were asked whether that had other outstanding issues or concerns and what there preference was for the programming language.

 

IL:   No preference

MI:No preference

MN:No preference

NY:No preference

OH:No preference

ON: prefer Java

PA: prefer Java

WI: No preference

GLC: prefer Java

 

Based on this, it was agreed that Java would be chosen as the language to use.

 

Server Issue

Jon summarized the progress in recovering the server that crashed over Thanksgiving weekend. It had been sent to an outside contractor who specializes in Sun servers. The contractor returned the server saying they had gotten the error fixed. However, the GLC was able to access only 2 of 6 partitions when the server was re-mounted. The contractor has been contacted again to reexamine the problem and restore full functionality. GLC is waiting for their response.

 

Chun Yi expressed a concern over the date of the last backup and would like to see a system in place for more frequent backing-up of the repository databases. Jon concurred that this was needed and committed to addressing it in the near future.

 

Benzo(a)pyrene

 

Jon will send a revised version of the b(a)p report by next week so that the group has adequate time to review it prior to the meeting. He has been working with Jon Bates to update the information of Coke Oven Gasses and has been including some other changes the group discussed previously and/or that have been sent by email. At the meeting, he would like to devote 30-60 minutes to discuss developing a "qualitative" assessment of a 10-15 year trend in b(a)p emissions for the region by examining what we know about certain source categories. Other comments on the report can also be discussed in Chicago, with the intention of having a finalized version sometime in February. A final dataset will also be compiled for release with the report and a downloadable file.

 

Chun Yi, Jon and Orlando have prepared and submitted abstracts regarding the b(a)p reassessment for both the June AWMA Annual conference and the May EPA Emissions Inventory conference. For each, a shortened version of the b(a)p report will be prepared and submitted for the conference proceedings.