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RE: effective environmentally friendly cleaners for beach areas?
My main comment on the use of H2O2 on a dock is that wood docks are many times treated. The most common wood preservative used historically contains chromium, copper, and arsenic. The H2O2 could potentially react with the chromium (as CrIII a less toxic form) to produce CrVI which is more toxic. Just something to think about. I would first recommend finding out if the dock is made of wood and, if so, how was the wood treated. - Helena Solo-Gabriele
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From: owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net on behalf of Leddy, Menu
Sent: Tue 9/18/2007 11:56 AM
To: Elizabeth Alm; boyerp@windsor.ijc.org; Rockwell.David@epamail.epa.gov; Julie.Kinzelman@cityofracine.org
Cc: beachnet@great-lakes.net; briggssl@michigan.gov; owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net; sadowsky@umn.edu
Subject: RE: effective environmentally friendly cleaners for beach areas?
H2O2 suggestion is a great one and it works. We have used it for holding basins and pipes.
Mena
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From: owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net [mailto:owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Alm
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:42 AM
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Subject: RE: effective environmentally friendly cleaners for beach areas?
poor little dog might get hot and tired working so hard all day... what about some owl decoys (although I guess they would eventually habituate). I think the H2O2 suggestion is a great one.
Liz
It seems to me that a well trained border collie would do a job like
this all day.
Cheers, Peter Boyer.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 11:18 AM
To: Kinzelman, Julie
Cc: beachnet@great-lakes.net; Shannon Briggs;
owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net; Mike Sadowsky
Subject: RE: effective environmentally friendly cleaners for beach
areas?
The idea of wires strung above the dock could be a simple and useful
approach to deter the gulls if it is as successful as observed in a
field test at a beach in California where the gulls avoided the beach
area underneath wires.
I wonder if the gulls would be willing to just leave the dock if there
is not another dock to go to.
Best Regards,
David C. Rockwell, MS, MBA
Biology Program Manager
Environmental Scientist, Monitoring and Indicators Branch
Great Lakes National Program Office, G-17J
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
77 W. Jackson Blvd, Chicago Illinois 60604
Tel 312-353-1373, Fax 312-353-2018
Rockwell.David@epa.gov
"Kinzelman,
Julie"
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RE: effective environmentally
friendly cleaners for beach
areas?
They might also want to explore some sort of gull deterrent in the
future such as placing wires above the dock.
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From: owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net
[ mailto:owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net <mailto:owner-beachnet@great-lakes.net> ] On Behalf Of Mike Sadowsky
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:45 AM
To: Shannon Briggs; beachnet@great-lakes.net
Subject: Re: effective environmentally friendly cleaners for beach
areas?
Hi Shannon:
I am assuming that the dock surface is above the waterline. If so,
the likely safest thing to use on the Dock is dilute Hydrogen
Peroxide (3%). When exposed to organic matter and sunlight and
bacterial action it breaks down to water and oxygen. I would apply it
liberally to teh "messy dock surface", let it sit until the bubbles
stop and then hose it off.
Mike
At 09:36 AM 9/18/2007, Shannon Briggs wrote:
>Alicia Carlson from the NH Beach Program has a question:
>
>I had a request this summer from a beach manager who has a duck and
>gull problem at his beach. In past years, a floating dock at the
>beach
>attracted waterfowl and, as you can imagine, they made a mess of it.
>The beach users are very fond of this dock and most were quite unhappy
>when the beach manager decided to remove the dock for this summer. He
>felt there was little he could do to clean off the bird droppings
>without contaminating the beach water with bacteria.
>
>Does anyone know of any cleaners that could be used on a structure in
>the water that will effectively remove most or all traces of bacteria
>without contaminating the water with bacteria or chemical pollutants?
>Any information you have would be appreciated!
>
>Thank you,
>Alicia Carlson
>NH Beach Program
>
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