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RE: Re: RE: E-M:/ Deforestation, Dioxin,andNoCommercialLogging!-Reply -Reply -Rep -Reply

Enviro-Mich message from "Harris, Craig" <Craig.Harris@ssc.msu.edu>

i'm wondering if you or someone else at menasha has thought about what price
you would be able to pay for alternate fibers . . . given some reasonable
numbers, i can imagine that some farmers in your vicinity might be
interested in growing alternate fibers . . . if the situation could be one
of symbiosis rather than dependency, there might be some very positive
social and economic outcomes

craig k harris
department of sociology
michigan state university
429b berkey hall
east lansing  michigan  48824-1111
tel:  517-355-5048
fax:  517-432-2856

> ----------
> From: 	DAVE MERKEL[SMTP:48MERDAV@menasha.com]
> Sent: 	Monday 26 July 1999 4:16 PM
> To: 	Murphwild1@aol.com; Craig.Harris@ssc.msu.edu
> Cc: 	enviro-mich@great-lakes.net; redwingnut@sprintmail.com
> Subject: 	Re:  Re:  RE: E-M:/ Deforestation,
> Dioxin,andNoCommercialLogging!-Reply -Reply -Rep -Reply
> Murray,
> I will not disagree with your numbers on use of alternate fibers such as
> hemp, bagasse, kenaf, etc. From a broad brush standpoint more use of
> alternative fibers I believe is economically and environmentally positive
> and feasible. Menasha is again looking into the availability and cost
> structures of kenaf, since it is particularly suited from a strength
> standpoint for our type of paper. Our last research showed us that it was
> technically feasible, but not economically possible or available from a
> supply standpoint (this was in ca. 1996). I can tell you that there is not
> enough out there of any of these alternative materials to fiber all of the
> mills in the US. In addition, there is not enough available farm land,
> fallow land or otherwise (without some unwanted deforestation or large
> scale new water infrastructure development) to grow the amount of
> alternate fiber needed to fiber all of the mills. Our farmland is
> shrinking, not growing. In addition, I am not technically sure that the
> alternate fibers you suggest are appropriate for all types of paper. Not
> all fibers are created equal. I believe the jury is still out that not
> another tree would ever have to be cut.
	. . .  

> I hope this helps to put out a few more stats and ideas on this continuing
> interesting discourse. I sincerely want to say again thanks for the
> opportunity to dialogue with you all on this Listserv.
> David Merkel
> Technical Manager
> Paperboard Division
> Menasha Corporation
> Otsego, MI
> ~please note the above comments are my ideas and opinions and do not
> necessarily reflect those of the Paperboard Division, Menasha Corporation~
> >>> <Murphwild1@aol.com> 07/21/99 03:59pm >>>
> Greetings,
> To the Michigan Pulp and Paper industry reading these messages:
> Recycled paper is made either from recycled virgin tree fibers
> (pre-consumer 
> waste) or mixed with recycled tree-fibers from post consumer waste. There
> is 
> one exception and that is 100% recycled post-consumer waste from wood
> fiber 
> paper which is collected as newspapers and other printed material.
> still trees were cut to make recycled papers.
> In general, fibers are separated from the other materials when  paper is 
> recycled. The leftover "sludge" contains unwanted toxic residues such as 
> pigments, heavy metals (colours) and other ingredients from printing inks
> and 
> adhesives. It is estimated that 100 tons of recycled paper generate 40
> tons 
> of toxic sludge causing major disposal problems. Finally, the quality of a
> recycled paper tends to be less desirable due to shorte fibers and other 
> impurities.
> Currently, only about 5% of the worlds paper is made from annual plants
> like 
> hemp, flax, cotton, sugarcane, bagasse,  esparto, wheat straw, reeds,
> sisal, 
> abaca, ananas and other species.
> North America is the largest producer of pulp and paper in the world. 
> There is no reason to cut down one single tree, or continued conversion of
> our public, private and corporate forests for any paper products. 
> Murray Daiely

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