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Re: E-M:/ Granholm says no to Toronto Trash



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Enviro-Mich message from Barbara Jean Madsen <bjmadsen@umich.edu>
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And how about compostable yard waste?  We don't allow that in landfills,
either.

	--Barb Madsen


On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Jeff Surfus wrote:

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> Enviro-Mich message from Jeff Surfus <jeffsurfus@comcast.net>
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> As someone who is familiar with these things, perhaps you can fill me in.
> What kind of inspection regime do these trucks go through when they cross
> the border?
>
> None of the states surrounding Michigan nor Ontario have the exact
> disposal standards that we do.  We have the power, regardless of the
> interstate commerce clause, to stop any waste from coming in that we don't
> allow our own citizens to dispose.  Have we enforced this?
>
> I know there have been some inspections but not consistent ones.  I
> realize this takes a significant effort, but a single person inspecting
> every load as it comes across the Blue Water Bridge would effectively slow
> down the trucks to the point where they would have to do something
> different.
>
> Here's an idea.  We already effectively don't allow disposal of beverage
> cans and bottles in our landfills through the bottle bill.  How about if
> we take it one step further and actually ban disposal of these items?  We
> already are almost there with something like 98% of cans and bottles out
> of the waste stream.
>
> None of the states surrounding Michigan nor Ontario has a bottle bill.
> Lots and lots of cans and bottles are being disposed in our landfills from
> out of state right now.  If we passed a ban, with effective enforcement,
> we would force the hands of other states and Ontario to take action to do
> the same or not send the trash here.
>
> That's just 2 ideas.  I've got more.
>
> Jeff Surfus
> NO WASTE
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Ruswick" <RUSWICKF@michigan.gov>
> To: <enviro-mich@great-lakes.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: E-M:/ Granholm says no to Toronto Trash
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> > Enviro-Mich message from "Frank Ruswick" <RUSWICKF@michigan.gov>
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> > I do not believe the issue is whether most political and policy actors
> > in this state would truly like to limit widespread use of Michigan
> > landfill capacity by out-of-state generators.
> >
> > I believe the issue is, given the limitations on state actions
> > regulating interstate commerce, what can they effectively do to
> > accomplish that purpose?
> >
> > I am sure those actors would be interested in any ideas in that
> > regard.
> >
> > >>> Jeff Surfus <jeffsurfus@comcast.net> 01/08/03 11:51AM >>>
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> > Enviro-Mich message from Jeff Surfus <jeffsurfus@comcast.net>
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> > This is an issue that should, and in most cases does, cut across
> > political
> > boundaries.
> >
> > Republican, Democrat, Green, Libertarian, (insert any other party
> > here)....No one wants Michigan to be the dumping ground for someone
> > else's
> > waste.  Obviously there are those politicians who have their hands in
> > the
> > pockets of the waste management lobby (no naming names here) who will
> > always put up roadblocks, but we have to overwhelm them.
> >
> > I'm tired of hearing politicians say there is nothing we can do about
> > this
> > problem.  The leaders who step forward and say YES, LET'S DO WHAT IT
> > TAKES
> > will be the true heroes.  And as Andrew says, there will be
> > environmental
> > and political benefits from this effort.
> >
> > I can tell you from personal contact that those in Toronto are scared
> > to
> > death that we are going to do something.  The question is ARE WE GOING
> > TO
> > DO SOMETHING?  Or are we going to let them dump on us for the next 20
> > years?
> >
> > Governor Granholm and Michigan Legislature are you listening?
> >
> > Jeff Surfus
> > NO WASTE
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Mutch" <andrewimutch@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Enviro-Mich" <enviro-mich@great-lakes.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: E-M:/ Granholm says no to Toronto Trash
> >
> >
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> > > Enviro-Mich message from Andrew Mutch <andrewimutch@yahoo.com>
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> > > If Governor Granholm can make a difference, I can tell
> > > you that it would a huge political win along with an
> > > environmental win. I know several people who were not
> > > Granholm supporters who would be very pleased if she
> > > could stop this Toronto trash. They were very upset to
> > > read about this increase in imported trash and are
> > > looking to her to do whatever she can to stop it.
> > >
> > > Andrew Mutch
> > > Novi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Jeff Surfus <jeffsurfus@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
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> > > > Enviro-Mich message from Jeff Surfus
> > > > <jeffsurfus@comcast.net>
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> > > > From today's Toronto Star:
> > > >
> > > > New governor says 'no' to Toronto trash
> > > >
> > > > The flow of Toronto's garbage across the Ontario
> > > > border into Michigan
> > > > would become a thing of the past if the state's new
> > > > Canadian-born governor
> > > > has her way.
> > > >
> > > > While that would delight critics of the 3,500 tonnes
> > > > of city trash trucked
> > > > daily to a Michigan landfill, American and
> > > > international trade rules
> > > > likely make an outright ban next to impossible.
> > > >
> > > > Still, Gov. Jennifer Granholm, who took over
> > > > Michigan's helm on New Year's
> > > > Day, has made minimizing the import of garbage a key
> > > > goal, an aide said
> > > > today.....
> > > >
> > > > (Note:  Don't click on the partial link below.  Cut
> > > > and paste the entire
> > > > link and place in your browser address bar.)
> > > >
> > > >
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> http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Art
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> > > > Jeff Surfus
> > > > NO WASTE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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