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Re: E-M:/ Sen. Joe Mack -- Dead at 85



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Enviro-Mich message from "Erik Herzog" <erik_herzog@hotmail.com>
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As I recall the quote was more colorful than that. It was that they come with "a five dollar bill and one pair of underwear and don't change either."

From: JBull51264@aol.com
Reply-To: JBull51264@aol.com
To: Mark.Richardson@macombcountymi.gov, enviro-mich@great-lakes.net,ajs@sagady.com
Subject: Re: E-M:/ Sen. Joe Mack -- Dead at 85
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:38:05 EDT


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Enviro-Mich message from JBull51264@aol.com
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In a message dated 4/21/05 2:42:31 PM, Mark.Richardson@macombcountymi.gov writes:

<< Or how about his famous remark about backpackers from downstate: "They
come here with a pair of jeans and a twenty-dollar bill and don't change either
one of 'em." (That could have been Dom Jacobetti - I can't remember.) >>


It was Joe Mack, but the dollar amount is wrong. He actually said a "$5 bill
in their pocket," if I remember right. It was the 1970s and a dollar was
worth more then. It probably would translate to a $20 these days.


The first public hearing I ever testified at was in front of the Conservation
Committee on a pendind Land Use bill. Mack was the chair of that committee.
Mack went on the warpath holding hearings at various venues within the
sponoring Sentor's district to try and discredit him. Nobody else on the committee
would participate. So there was a whole committee table set up and only Sen.
Mack was holding court. When I testified he spoke as much as I did
interupting me about every third word to tell me that I was a communist or socialist
or some other diatribe. When i was treated to a scolding from a member of the
Natural Resources Commision when i testified on the upcoming dove hunt, I told
those that told me I was treated unfairly, that I agreed, but that it was
nothing compared to testifying in front of Sen. Joe Mack. In fact Alex and I
can't remember the other staffer of the Michigan Student Environmental
Confederation persuaded me to testify. Nothing like cutting your teeth on the worst
possible scenario. The upside was that having testified in front of Sen. Joe
Mack, I knew that any other hearing I testified at would be a piece of cake by
comparison.


I think you are right that Sen. Mack was also on appropriations (due to
seniority I think) and did a lot of damage to environmental legislation and budgets
there as well. The amazing thing is that Democrats let him get away with it
all. It was they who gave him the Coservation chairmanship! At that time it
seemed that Republican control of the Senate might be a good move for the
environment, because it would put Mack out of power.
Jim Bull


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