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Enviro-Mich message from "Hartig" <hartigs@wideopenwest.com>
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I was a Senate Page in Lansing is the late 70's.  Joe Mack had a seat on the
Seante floor next to a brash young Senator, Tom Gustello.  Mack liked to
wear these outlandishly gaudy sportcoats.  One day Gustello took Mack's
jacket off the back of his chair and put in on top of his (Gustello's) desk
like a tablecloth and began to eat his lunch on it.  It was quite amusing.
Pat Hartig
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From: "Erik Herzog" <erik_herzog@hotmail.com>
To: <JBull51264@aol.com>; <enviro-mich@great-lakes.net>
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: E-M:/ Sen. Joe Mack -- Dead at 85


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> Enviro-Mich message from "Erik Herzog" <erik_herzog@hotmail.com>
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> As I recall the quote was more colorful than that.  It was that they come
> with "a five dollar bill and one pair of underwear and don't change
either."
>
> >From: JBull51264@aol.com
> >Reply-To: JBull51264@aol.com
> >To: Mark.Richardson@macombcountymi.gov,
> >enviro-mich@great-lakes.net,ajs@sagady.com
> >Subject: Re: E-M:/ Sen. Joe Mack -- Dead at 85
> >Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:38:05 EDT
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> >
> >In a message dated 4/21/05 2:42:31 PM, Mark.Richardson@macombcountymi.gov
> >writes:
> >
> ><< Or how about his famous remark about backpackers from downstate:
"They
> >come here with a pair of jeans and a twenty-dollar bill and don't change
> >either
> >one of 'em."  (That could have been Dom Jacobetti  - I can't remember.)
>>
> >
> >It was Joe Mack, but the dollar amount is wrong.  He actually said a "$5
> >bill
> >in their pocket," if I remember right.  It was the 1970s and a dollar was
> >worth more then.  It probably would translate to a $20 these days.
> >
> >The first public hearing I ever testified at was in front of the
> >Conservation
> >Committee on a pendind Land Use bill.   Mack was the chair of that
> >committee.
> >  Mack went on the warpath holding hearings at various venues within the
> >sponoring Sentor's district to try and discredit him.  Nobody else on the
> >committee
> >would participate.  So there was a whole committee table set up and only
> >Sen.
> >Mack was holding court.   When I testified he spoke as much as I did
> >interupting me about every third word to tell me that I was a communist
or
> >socialist
> >or some other diatribe.  When i was treated to a scolding from a member
of
> >the
> >Natural Resources Commision when i testified on the upcoming dove hunt, I
> >told
> >those that told me I was treated unfairly, that I agreed, but that it was
> >nothing compared to testifying in front of Sen. Joe Mack.  In fact Alex
and
> >I
> >can't remember the other staffer of the Michigan Student Environmental
> >Confederation persuaded me to testify.  Nothing like cutting your teeth
on
> >the worst
> >possible scenario.  The upside was that having testified in front of Sen.
> >Joe
> >Mack, I knew that any other hearing I testified at would be a piece of
cake
> >by
> >comparison.
> >
> >I think you are right that Sen. Mack was also on appropriations (due to
> >seniority I think) and did a lot of damage to environmental legislation
and
> >budgets
> >there as well.   The amazing thing is that Democrats let him get away
with
> >it
> >all.  It was they who gave him the Coservation chairmanship!  At that
time
> >it
> >seemed that Republican control of the Senate might be a good move for the
> >environment, because it would put Mack out of power.
> >Jim Bull
> >
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