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Enviro-Mich message from "Anne Woiwode" <Anne.Woiwode@sierraclub.org>
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Rane et al:

One of the problems with the protocol was that it appears that the samples
were taken based on where waterways crossed public highways, not necessarily
based on the sites where waste was spread, where field tile outlets were
located and where run-off might occur.  Also, because a CAFO is somewhat
different from other point sources because it can have discharges sometimes
miles away from the actually facility (either because nearby fields were
spread with wastes or because field tiles carries the waste a long distance)
it takes a bit more work to figure out where discharges may occur.  

In order for the DEQ to view the Comprehensive Nutrient Management Plan for
the Hartford Dairy CAFO they actually must ask to look at it on the site of
the operation, they don't have it in their office to pull out and figure out
where the best site was to set up sampling.  Requests were made to the
consultant for Hartford prior to testing beginning to recommend where the
spreading would be occurring in order to assure that the sampling would be
in the right places, but evidently that consultant never responded, and
later Hartford attacked the DEQ for allegedly never informing them that the
testing was going on.  

The revised permit adopted by the DEQ last year does require that the CNMP
be provided to the DEQ AFTER a permit has been issued, but the legislation
that is being debated in the House Agriculture Committee tomorrow would try
to take away the requirement in state regulations for all CAFOS to obtain
NPDES permits over time, so it would be tough for anyone to figure out where
the pollution might occur and to offer advice on how to avoid pollution. 

Anne

Anne Woiwode, State Director
Sierra Club Mackinac (Michigan) Chapter

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Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:28 PM
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Enviro-Mich message from Rane Curl <ranecurl@engin.umich.edu>
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Trigger, Grant R. wrote:

> Where is the E coli coming from in the upstream waters - seems to me
> having that information might be relevant before reaching any
> conclusions - or don't the facts matter?

Exactly. Why don't they just measure the e-coli concentrations and flows 
at the dairy outflow and in the drain just upstream of that point, over 
time? This is a technical question, not grounds for a big he-said, 
she-said debate.

--Rane L Curl


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