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Enviro-Mich message from Reg Gilbert <reg@glu.org>
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Dear list,

This message from Mr. Kuhlman is an outrage.

In the first and most important sense, this message dresses an old American fear of multiplying non-white people in environmental clothes. The tone of the message makes this clear. I hope others on this list will denounce this sentiment for the xenophobia that it almost certainly is, but in any case certainly feeds.

Secondly, Mr. Kuhlman's environmental logic is fallacious. Any increase in population growth in the United States caused by immigration from Mexico and Central America will be much more than offset by reduced population growth in the source countries. It is demographically axiomatic that increased living standards reduce birth rates. Perhaps Mr. Kuhlman does not consider population growth south of the border as problematic as population growth in the United States. In fact, it is more significant in its contribution to total human misery and long-term potential for international destabilization and war.

Mr. Kuhlman's concern for immigration contributing to "extravagant levels of consumption" is of course generically valid, but I say terribly inappropriate in this context -- should environmentalists really argue that low-income nations and the people in them should not aspire to improving their standards of living? Substantial portions of immigrant earnings go back to home countries to support the most basic family needs. Mexicans and El Salvadorans do not come to the United States to indulge in extravagant living.

This message is not intended to support the Senate bill per se, though I would be surprised if anybody on this list, perhaps with the exception of Mr. Kuhlman, thought it was morally acceptable to have a permanent system in which more than ten million people needed for jobs in United States, whether illegal immigrant or legal "guest worker," have no path to citizenship or the vote. The immigrant debate is at least in part a civil rights debate.

But whatever one's position in the immigration debate, I say it would be politically and morally wise to keep the environment out of it.

Reg


At 11:57 AM 5/26/2006, Roger Kuhlman wrote:
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Enviro-Mich message from Roger Kuhlman <rokuhlman@yahoo.com>
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On May 25, the US Senate blithely voted 62 to 36 to
add upwards of 100 million foreign immigrants to the
American population over the next 20 years in a
so-called immigration reform bill. Just like 1986,
this bill grants amnesty to illegal immigrants but
instead of three million illegal aliens getting
amnesty as in 1986, the number today could go as high
as 20 million. Whatever the actual number turns out to
be, amnesty for today's illegal aliens will be a huge
inducement for future illegal immigration. There will
be no surprise in 10 years when our country has
another new 20 or 30 million illegal immigrants
clamoring for amnesty again.

The environment and American Environmentalism has
suffered a major defeat in this Senate action. If you
have high economic growth, extravagant levels of
consumption, and a rapidly growing population as we
have in America today, what chance do you have
stopping or even slowing major environmental
degradation in both America proper and the world as a
whole? Looking at matters realistically and using
commonsense suggests not much.

Roger Kuhlman
Ann Arbor, Michigan

Ps. Senate Democrats including Carl Levin nearly
unanimously (4 exceptions including Debbie Stabenow)
voted to stand shoulder to shoulder with President
George Bush and corporate interests in demanding high
immigration and cheap labor. Wal-Mart, Microsoft,
McDonald's, Developers and the Construction Industry
will be very well pleased with this outcome since
their labor costs will continue to decline. Ah
progress. Maybe the auto industry can get into this
'good' thing of importing cheap foreign labor. A
solution for the troubles of GM and Ford?



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