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Enviro-Mich message from "Julie Metty Bennett" <jmetty@pscinc.com>
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Just my analysis from reading the Freep article, Alex. I am not as quick
to jump to the conclusion that the sky is falling as some.
Julie
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander J. Sagady [mailto:ajs@sagady.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 5:28 PM
To: Julie Metty Bennett; enviro-mich@great-lakes.net
Subject: Re: E-M:/ RE: / Out of state trash/Granholm/waste incineration
Julie, how do your know that is what Granholm meant? Most of the time
when
there is discussion of using MSW for energy and steam, it means building
MSW-fired combustion units (i.e. incinerators with energy recovery).
If you have evidence that it is landfill gas that is what Granholm
meant, then please
post it. But also note that many landfills must already do landfill
gas recovery
under Clean Air Act regulation, so any emphasis on this as some kind of
new
visionary policy is misplaced.
Frankly, if Granholm thinks it is desirable environmental, social and
economic policy for Michigan that other states send their municipal
solid waste to Michigan and then somehow landfill gas recovery is
the bright spot for this....then that is just trying to put a pretty
face on
Michigan as everyone else's dumping ground.....Michigan as
the region's MSW pay-toilet for disposal.
At 03:02 PM 08/29/2007, Julie Metty Bennett wrote:
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Sorry, my point was directed at your belief that she is supporting
incineration. So I will restate:
Capturing energy from waste doesn't have to involve incineration. I
think she was talking about landfill gas recovery.
Now feel free to shift the discussion to how bad landfill gas recovery
operations are.
J
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander J. Sagady [mailto:ajs@sagady.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:27 PM
To: Julie Metty Bennett; enviro-mich@great-lakes.net
Subject: RE: / Out of state trash/Granholm/waste incineration
At 10:59 AM 08/29/2007, you wrote:
Capturing energy from waste doesn't have to involve combustion. I
think
she was talking about landfill gas recovery.
In general, landfill gas recovered from landfills is hardly ever
used for pipeline gas. Almost all landfill gas recovery is used
in conjunction with onsite gas fired engines for electricity
generation.
Where landfill gas contains chlorinated hydrocarbons, those same gas
fired engines do generate polychlorinated dibenzo dioxins/furans.
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[mailto:owner-enviro-mich@great-lakes.net] On Behalf Of Alex J. Sagady
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:20 AM
To: enviro-mich@great-lakes.net
Subject: E-M:/ Out of state trash/Granholm/waste incineration
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Enviro-Mich message from "Alex J. Sagady & Associates"
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On Michigan Public Radio Tuesday evening it was mentioned about how
Governor Granholm thinks out of state trash coming into Michigan can
be
turned into an advantage for Michigan because is can be subjected to
waste-to-energy treatment like in Sweden.
Assuming this was a correct rendition of what she said, I've really
got
to wonder about the kind of advice Granholm has been getting.
Is it possible that Granholm is/was totally oblivious to the entire
Detroit Incinerator debacle? From the standpoint of airborne
toxicants,
trash combustion is one of the worst fuels you can use. And the
economics of trash to energy have also been fairly disastrous for
Detroit. Why would other states pay high tipping fees at MSW
incinerators when they can dump more cheaply in Michigan landfills?
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