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Re: E-M:/ Are We Ready to Track Carbon Footprints?



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Enviro-Mich message from Aaron Wissner <aaronwissner@yahoo.com>
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For each dollar we spend, we create about 1.2 pounds
of carbon dioxide.

The key to reducing our release of CO2 is reducing
global consumption.  The challenge is how to do this.






--- Larry Nooden <ldnum@umich.edu> wrote:

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> Enviro-Mich message from Larry Nooden
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> Keeping this simple.  Larger scale (system?)
> activities have carbon 
> footprints just as individual have activities have
> them.  They help people 
> understand the costs-benefits to make better choices
> and to pressure 
> reluctant governments and businesses.
> 
> The footprint of a bottle of wine makes little
> difference in the great 
> picture (but it is fun to think about and the idea
> does promote more 
> thought); however, individual activities, e.g., 
> transportation and home 
> energy use, can be very significant.
> 
> --On Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:23 AM -0600 Flynn
> Tim <timf@mac.com> wrote:
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> >
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> > Individual conservation will never solve the
> problem this is a  societial
> > problem and only solvable by common action.
> >
> > Individual action only helps at the margin. To get
> to 80% reduction by
> > 2050 we need governments globally to act.  The
> whole system must  change.
> > Changes within the system can never be enough.
> >
> > How do you apply foot prints to systemic change?
> >
> > TJF
> >
> > On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Larry Nooden
> <ldnum@umich.edu> wrote:
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> >> Enviro-Mich message from Larry Nooden
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> >> Carbon footprinting of various products and
> activities is starting
> >> to get the public discussion that it deserves.
> >>
> >> NYT- People are not good at making immediate
> sacrifices for an
> >> abstract benefit in the future, especially when
> they have a
> >> hard time understanding the problem.
> >>
> >>
>
<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/science/25tier.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&or
> >> ef=slogin
> >> >
> >>
> >> Carbon footprinting is interesting; for example,
> which has a lesser
> >> carbon footprint, a bottle of wine shipped from
> France or trucked in
> >> from California?
> >>
> >>
> >> Answer =
> >>
> >>
> >> the French wine carries less for most of the
> eastern US, but
> >> Michigan falls west of the Napa-Bourdeaux divide
> (Science 319:139,
> >> 2008).  I guess the wine-bearing ships do not
> come directly to
> >> Detroit.
> >>
> >>
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