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Re: E-M:/ if meetings were cleanups, Dow Chemical/Midland/Saginaw would now be spotless

USEPA: Tell me what you think about my plans.
Public: What plans?
USEPA: I'll tell you when I think you should know, but I want to get your opinions first. It's confidential right now.
Public: How can I have informed opinions until I know what your plans are? 

US EPA is hosting a public meeting January 15 to get input on dioxin issues in the tri-cities. In what appears to be a classic example of cynically controlling input while appearing to be transparent, they are hosting a "listening post" a "public" meeting - at Saginaw Valley State University. 

Nowhere in the invitation, though, do they talk about what sort of changes they are considering, it's confidential, so if you, like most people, have things other than watersheds on your mind, you have no reason to attend the meeting. Then, when they do something colossally stupid to the Great Lakes, they will blame you for not attending the meeting and being heard.

This is not public input - it is insider control. If you control affected land, or plan to sell chemicals to the State, or are one of the insiders who has moved the plan to this stage, you know what is in it and you can make sure the meeting and comments go your way. If you're an average citizen, you don't know what is in it, so you won't know whether your ox is getting gored until it's buried in contaminated confidentiality.
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Subject: E-M:/ if meetings were cleanups, Dow Chemical/Midland/Saginaw would now be spotless

CONTACT: (EPA) Mick Hans, 312-353-5050, hans.mick@epa.gov
(EPA) Anne Rowan, 312-353-9391, rowan.anne@epa.gov
(MDEQ) Bob McCann, 517-241-7397

No. 09-OPA001

Tri-Cities dioxin cleanup meeting Jan. 15, 7 P.M.

(Chicago, Ill. - Jan. 5, 2009) U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
Region 5  and Michigan Department of Environmental Quality will host a
meeting on short- and long-term plans to clean up dioxin in the
Tittabawassee and Saginaw Rivers and Saginaw Bay. The meeting will be at
7 p.m., Thursday, Jan. 15 at Saginaw Valley State University, Curtiss
Hall, Seminar Rooms, 7400 Bay Road, Saginaw. EPA and MDEQ officials will
be available for informal discussions beginning at 6:30 p.m.

EPA is starting new negotiations with MDEQ and Dow Chemical Co. on a
process that can be used to develop a comprehensive cleanup plan under
the "Superfund Alternative Approach."  This approach uses normal
Superfund procedures and encourages public involvement throughout the

More information is online at
http://www.epa.gov/region5/sites/dowchemical/ and at
http://www.michigan.gov/deq (click on "Dioxin Information"). Residents
with questions or who need special accommodations at the meeting may
contact Patti Krause, EPA Community Involvement Coordinator,
800-621-8431, Ext. 69506, or krause.patricia@epa.gov.

Dioxins are highly toxic compounds that pose serious risks to human
health and the environment. Dioxins and furans come from the production
of chlorine-based products. Past waste disposal practices, fugitive
emissions and incineration at Dow resulted in dioxin and furan
contamination at areas within Dow's 1,900-acre Midland facility and
off-site areas in the Tri-Cities.

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