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I agree with John's comments, and voiced similar
ones to Roger over the weekend (in fact, I used the exact phrase regarding the
difficulty getting "plugged in").
I know our undergraduate and graduate students
would be very interested in involvement in this work - either as directed study,
as a thesis option, or as internships. Faculty (including me) would be
interested in a closer relationship with the project tasks. I'm quite sure
we could also involve middle schools/ high schools from the metro-Detroit region
(as well as others suggested by other faculty/universities).
Regards -
Carol Miller
Carol J. Miller, Ph.D., P.E
Professor, Dept. of
Civil and Env. Engineering
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI
48202
(313) 577-3876
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:11
PM
Subject: Re: Draft GLOS Proposal
Hi Roger,
I would like to second Steve's suggestion regarding an emphasis on
climate change, as this is one of the primary reasons that it is critical to
initiate a long-term monitoring program for the Great Lakes.
Also, Steve's comment regarding the involvement of the academic community
relates to a point I was trying to make on the phone last Friday.
Unfortunately I was not able to attend the meeting, and my brief interaction
over the phone was probably less than effective. I was trying to initiate a
discussion about how university teachers and researchers (including students)
can become more effective partners in the GLOS project. I would certainly
rather see our role as being partners, rather than clients, but as I stated
over the phone, I have found it somewhat difficult to get "plugged in" to the
GLOS enterprise. For example, even though I've been on the GLOS mailing list
for years and have kept tabs on the website, I was surprised to find out that
a proposal to NOAA was in development (and was due only a few days after the
meeting). Had I known this further in advance, I would have welcomed the
opportunity to provide input on the proposal preparation. I don't mean to
imply that the GLOS group has been somewhat "exclusive" ... just that there
have been missed opportunities for getting greater involvement from the
outside community. One suggestion I might make for future annual meetings, for
example, would be to hold them sometime outside the typical school year so
that faculty and students have a greater probability of attending. Perhaps it
might even be good to have the meeting coincide with the IAGLR conference,
since many interested individuals would already be at a central
location.
Anyway, I realize that you have more pressing concerns at the moment
regarding the proposal deadline, but I just wanted to pass along my comments /
concerns while they were fresh in my head.
thanks,
John
Dr. John D. Lenters
Associate Professor
School of Natural Resources &
Department of Geosciences
723 Hardin Hall
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Lincoln, NE 68583-0987
Phone: 402-472-9044
On Apr 16, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Steve Colman wrote:
Roger,
It is a little difficult to make suggestions about the mechanics of the
proposal at this late date, but as you saw from Jay Austin's presentation at
the GLOS meeting, an emphasis on climate change is likely to be helpful. The
biggest question in my mind is how the funding will be managed if it comes,
but I understand that it would be very difficult to get any kind of
substantive plan into the proposal.
It occurs to me that the academic community can be either clients or
partners in this overall enterprise. Certainly, we are interested in the
data that will come from the various components of observing system, and in
that sense we could be clients. On the other hand, if we are actively
involved with the planning, operation, and data collection activities, then
we are more like partners. In the partnership role, as I've harped on
before, we require significant funding because of the time and effort
involved.
Best regards,
Steve Colman
Professor of Geological Sciences and Director,
Large Lakes Observatory, University of Minnesota Duluth
RLB 2205 E. 5th St., Duluth, MN 55812; Ph: 218-726-6723; fax
-6979
www.d.umn.edu/llo
On Apr 13, 2007, at 2:34 PM, Roger Gauthier wrote:
Ladies/Gentlemen: The GLOS Board of Directors has
reviewed the attached draft proposal that the Regional Association
intends to submit to NOAA under the Regional Coastal Ocean
Observing System (RCOOS) call for
proposals. The GLOS Board seeks your comments on this
proposal by close of
business on Monday, April 16, 2007. I apologize for the lack of adequate review time
on your part, but the GLOS team has been working diligently on vetting
this document with as many prospective collaborators or affected users of
GLOS products or services as well. Use of the MSWord Track Changes option would help
expedite finish of the document on schedule.
Roger L.
Gauthier
Interim Executive Director, Great Lakes Observing
System
c/o
Great Lakes Commission
2805 South Industrial Highway, Suite #100
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-6791
Office: 734-971-9135
x113
Fax:
734-971-9150
Car: 248-561-6492
Cell: 248-219-4284
http://www.glos.us
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