From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 09:28:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA04009 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:28:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970102142924.008bda94@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 08:29:24 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Eggert, Thomas L" To: "'p2reg@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Certification programs Pat Wisconsin is also putting a new program together. I have attached a copy of authorizing legislation, which provides some of the details. This legislation has not been introduced yet, so please do not share this with others. If I can provide any other assistance, let me know. Tom Eggert WI Department of Natural Resources PO Box 7921 MB/5 Madison, WI 53707 608 267-2761 eggert@mail01.dnr.state.wi.us >---------- >From: > Pat_Gallagher@nmenv.state.nm.us[SMTP:Pat_Gallagher@nmenv.state.nm.us] >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 1996 5:06AM >To: p2reg@great-lakes.net >Subject: Certification programs > >Message: >I am looking for examples of state certification programs for P2, >regulatory compliance and/or ISO 14000. New Mexico is pulling >together an environmental excellence program and participantswill >be required to have an assessment completed by a certified assessor to >participate in the program. Any models out there in any other >states? This will be a voluntary program. Thanks in advance. >Pat Gallagher >New Mexico Environment Department >Office of the Secretary >P.O. Box 26110 >Santa Fe, NM 87502 >505-827-0677 phone >505-827-2836 > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 10:21:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA07079 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:21:44 -0500 (EST) From: ka_sewell@ccmail.pnl.gov Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 08:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Tires To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, HANCOCK_P@pns1.dep.state.fl.us Message-id: <01IDQ9HMU3G28WVYOI@pnl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is in repsonse to the questions about making horse trailer mats from tires and pyrolysis of tires. We have a directory which may be helpful. It's called the Scrap Tire Users Directory, The Business References Book of the Scrap Tire Industry. It's published by the Recycling Research Institute. The numbers I have are in Suffield, CT (203)668-5422 and Merrifield, VA (703)280-9112. There are sections on markets, including mats, and a section on equipment. Hope you can locate a copy. Katie Sewell P2 Coordinator Idaho DEQ 1410 N. Hilton Boise, ID 83706 (208) 373-0502 FAX 0169 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 10:59:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA09636 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:59:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970102155928.008ce024@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_852242368==_" Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 09:59:28 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: List Inst. and Subscriber Roster X-Attachments: H:\P2TECH\Sublst.txt; Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net --=====================_852242368==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< January, 1996 WELCOME TO P2TECH! 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Fernandez, City of Austin, Texas" "Pat Fervaro, Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition" * "Rue Jules Ferry, National Graduate School in Chemical and Process Engineering, France" " Wendy Fisher, Georgia Pollution Prevention Assistance Division" * "Marianne Fitzgerald, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality" * "Wendy Fitzner, MI DNR" "Marvin Fleischam, UofK Louisville-Chemical Engineering" * "John Flowe, Air and Water Quality Division, City of Jacksonville" * "Domenic Forcella, Central Connecticut State University" * "Laura Ford, Maryland Center for Environmental Training" * "Gerald Forgnone, Plastic Oil Products" "Tyrone Foster, NPPR" <102262.2671@compuserve.com> * "Steven Fraleigh, Gensym" "Debbie Franke, Research Triangle Institute" * "Marty Frederick, Indiana Department of Environmental Management" "Andrea Futrell, Ohio EPA" __G__ * "Pat Gallagher, Wyoming Pollution Prevention Program" * "Robert Gamble, PA Department of Environmental Protection" "Kavita Gandhi, Information Center for Clearner Technology & Environmental Management, Singapore" * "G. 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Halsey, Broward County Department of Natural Resource Protection" "William Haman, Iowa Energy Center" "Patty Hancock," * "Kay Lampe Hannasch, Ames Laboratory" * "Maureen Hart, Environmental Consultant" "Dave Hartley, CA Dept. Toxic Substances Control" "Janice Hatcher, Georgia Pollution Prevention program" "Michael J. Hayes, University of Illinois" "Marcus Healey, NJ Technical Assistance Program" * "Tom Heathman, Southeast Region for Operational Technologies Corp." * "Judy Heiderscheidt, Larimer County Department of Health and Environment" * "Nancy Helm, USEPA" * "Josh Heltzer, Bell Atlantic" * "Daniel Herman, Bureau of Waste Prevention" * "Chris Herrick, BellSouth, Atlanta" * "Irving Hess" * "Beth Hicks, Iowa Department of Natural Resources" * "Robert Hitch, Georgia Environmental Partnership" * "Larry Homich, US Army Engineer District, Pittsburgh" "JoAnne Hollash," * "John R. Hornung, Independent Consultant" "Greg Hume, Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Sciences" "Jan Hyngstrom, Uof NB Lincoln" "Al Innes, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency" * "Eva Irwin, Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc." * "Steve Isaacson, NW Manufacturing Outreach Center" __J__ "Robert Jackson, MI Office of Waste Reduction Services" * "Judy Jakobsen, Suffolk County Water Authority" * "Michael James, James Environmental Services, Round Rock TX" * "Helen Jervey, Environmental Consultant" * "Lisa Jones, US EPA" * "Judy Jordan, Deleware MEP" * "Ron Joseph, Ron Joseph & Associates" * "Joe F. Junker, Industrial Energy Engineer" __K__ * "Georgia Kagle, PA Department of Environmental Protection" "Josh Kanner, Abt Associates, Cambridge, MA" "John Katers, UW Solid and Hazardous Waste Education Center" * "Michael Keefe, PRC Environmental Management, Inc." "Judy Kennedy, WASHINGTON Dept. of Ecology" "Mike Kennicott, Los Alamos National Lab" "Bob Kerr, Kerr & Associates" * "Peter Kidd, Learning Materiasl Consulting Service" "Doug Kievit-Kylar, Vermont Agency of Natural Resources" "Unhee Kim, EEI Corporation" <102506.2600@CompuServe.com> * "Karl Kistler, University of Minnesota" "Daniel Klempner, CEEES U of Detroit Mercy" * "Peggy H. Knight, Harlow Knight Associates" "Neil Kolwey, Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment" * "Judy Kowalski, NM Minerals and Natural Resouce Department" * "Lin Krause, Ohio EPA" "Douglas Kretkowski, NJ Technical Assistance Program" __L__ * "Dan Lando, Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd." * "Frank Lanzetta, FAA" * "Joseph LaPoint, University of Louisville" * "Steve M. Lattanzia, Independent Consultant" "David F. Lawrence, IN Dept. of Environmental Management" " Marc Leemans, Public Waste agency of Flanders" "Robert G. Lehman, WV Industrial Extension Service" "Brian Leonhard, U of Louisville Industrial Assessment Center" "Krista Johnsen Leuteritz, NIST" * "David Leviten, Pacific Northwest P2 Research Center" "Jeff Lewis, New Jersey Technical Assistance Program" "Jeff Lewis, OHIO EPA" "Dina Li, SAIC" "Frank Libby, Office of Federal Environmental Executives" "Marianne Lines, Great Lakes P2 Center, Sarnia Ontario" "Annette Lingleo, IL Small Business Environmental Assistance Program" "Larry Longworth, CAMP" or * "Pio Lombardo, Lombardo Associates, Inc." * "James Lounsbury, US EPA" "Robert Ludwig, CA Dept. Toxic Substances Control" * "Bob Lundquist, Minnesota Technical Assistance Program" "Greg Lutchko, Vermont Agency of Natural Resources" * "Holly Lynch, Environmental & Safety Program for the Institute for Interconnecting & Packaging Electronic Circuits" or __M__ * "Todd MacFadden, Montana State University Extension" * "Melissa Malkin, Research Triangle Institute" * "Bill Manz, Ohio Dept. of Defense" * "Gary Marchant, Kirkland and Ellis" * "John Marchetti, Office of Defense, DOE" * "Lee Marchman, City of Jacksonville" * "John Marlin, IL Waste Management and Research Center" "A. Robet Marmo, Aplitech, State College PA" * "Eric Masanet, Northwestern University" "Tom Maves, OHIO EPA" * "Duane J. Mazur, The Electrosynthesis Company, Inc." * * "Kevin McDonald, Northeastern Environmental Design" "Ken E. McGill, Breed & McGill, L.L.C., Chemical Processing Consultant" * "Alice Megna, EnivroSource" * "Chris Messner, SAIC" * "David Meyer, Ogden Environmental and Energy Services, Inc." * "Robert Michalowicz, BOVAR Enivronmental" "Janet Michel, Lockheed Martin Energy Systems" * "Kim Mihalik, SAIC" * "Chaz Miller, Recycling Times Newspaper" * "Gary Miller, IL Waste Management and Research Center" * "Todd Miller, Integrated Metal Technology, Inc." * "Bill Minor, Texas Manufacturing Assistance Center" "Rudy Moehrbach, North Carolina Office of Waste Reduction" * "Louis N. Molino, TTI Environmental, Inc." * "Esther Monfa, Centre for Cleaner Production Initiaves, Spain" "Carrie Monosmith, Michigan Department of Environmental Quality" * "Ken Monroe, Enviro$en$e" * "Patricio Gonzalez Morel, Hagler Bailly International - Environmental Pollution Prevention Project" * "Lisa Morrison, IL Waste Management and Research Center" * "Scott Morrison, USSC Environmental Specialist" "Myles Morse, EPA-Pollution Prevention Information Exchange" * "Anne Moser, King County Hazardous Waste Library" * "Ted W. Moss, Eli Lilly and Co." * "Peter T. Moulton, DEP Pollution Prevention" * "Dwayne Mundy, North Central Florida Regional Planning Council" * "Jerry Murphy, Rust Environmental and Infrastructure" "Robert Mussro, Clemson University" * "Elling Myklebust, Lighthouse Communications Group, Ltd." __N__ * "Bill Nelson, IL Waste Management and Research Center" "Liz Nevers, UW-Extension Farm Assist Program" * "Greg Newman, North Carolina Division of Pollution Prevention" * "Graham Noble, Noble Environmental c.c., South Africa" * "David H. Nichols, Westinghouse Hanford" "Kirk Nofzinger, OHIO EPA" * "Steven Nofzinger, Iowa Waste Reduction Center" "Jim Noonan, IN Source Reduction & Technical Assistance Program" * "Coleen Northeim, Research Triangle Institute" __O__ "Kevin Odonnell, Minnesota Technology" "Kevin Olmstead, University of Detroit mercy" * "Brian Olsen, IL EPA Office of P2" * "OPPCA, Northwest Region" "John N. Osborne, California Manufacturing Technology Center" __P__ * "Nikhil Panse, MASS Executive Office of Environmental Affairs" * "Rolfe Parsloe, WA Department of Ecology" * "Ed Parsons, ConnTAP" * "Jackie Peden, Illinois Waste Management and Research Center" * "Vincent Perelli, NH Dept. of Environmental Services" "Jerry R. Perrich" * "Glen Perrigan, Florida Department of Environmental Protection" "Alton Peters, Research Triangle Institute" "Brian Peterson, Hawthorne Inc." * "Keith Peterson, Battelle Pacific Northwest Laboratories" "Wayne Pferdehirt, UW-Solid and Hazardous Waste Education Center" "Jeff Phillips, WA Dept. of Ecology" * "L. Josie Phillips, ORNL" * "Jeff Pico, NJ Institute of Technology" "Tim Piero, Kansas State U P2 Institute" "Ralph Pike, LSU Chem E" "Michael Pitcher, Pitcher Environmental Management Party, Ltd., Austrailia" "National Pollution Prevention Roundtable Office" <75664.3520@compuserve.com> * "Robert B. Pojasek, Cambridge Environmental, Inc." * "Caroline Pomeroy, Chicago Manufacturing Center" * "Robert Popichak, Dept. of Environmental Protection, PA" * "Kristen Poultney, NASA Langley Research Center/SAIC" * "Richard H. Powell, Dames & Moore" * "Duncan Price, Dartford Borough Council, UK" __R__ "Peter Radecki, CenCITT, MTU-Houghton, MI" "Charley Rains, Idaho Department of Environmental Quality" * "Nikole Reaksecker, US EPA" * "Margaret Reich, Portland, Oregon Environmental Services" * "Mark Reider, The Hinsdale Consulting Group" * "Rhone Resch, US EPA" * "Keith Ridley, Kentucky Pollution Prevention Center" * "Cassandra Lee Robertson, Oregon State University" * * "Susan Roothaan, Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission" * "Glen Rosenhamer, University of Nebraska" * "Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, Process Profiles" "Christopher B. Roth, Purdue University" "Richard Rusk, Iowa State University Industrial Assesment Center" * "Chris Rust, Environmental Careers Organization" __S__ * "Mario E. Salazar, US Agnecy for International Development" * "Scott Santala, MESA Resources" *"Scott Santala, NASA / Operations Support Services" * "Tom Sargent, Geosyntec Consultants" * "William Sarnecky, Virginia Department of Environmental Quality" * "Anthony Sasson, OHIO EPA" * "Kenneth J. Saulter, Midwest Manufacturing Technology Center" "Paul Saunders, Jefferson County Department of Health and Environment" * "John Scarboro, Florida Department of Environmental Protection" * "Alexander Schmidt, Kommunalkredit" * "Andrew Schmidt, Southeast Michigan Council of Governments" * "Carol Schmidt, WI Department of Natural Resources" * "Hans Schnitzer, University of Technology" "Geogg Sclare, Environmental Protection Authroity, South Austrilia" * "Chris Schroeder, Lincoln Landcaster County Health Department" * "Michael Schultz, University of Massachusettes, Amherst" * "Jeff Seadon, UNITEC Institute of Technology" * "Jackie Sellers, University of Georgia" "Katie Sewell, IDAHO P2 Program" "Eileen Sheehan, US EPA" * "Kent Shelman, Mid-america Manufacturing Technology Center" * "Nirav Sheth, Details, Inc." * "Johnette Shockley, US Army Corps of Engineers" * "Marc Siegel, University of California" "John Siemak, California MTC" "Julie Sieving, Colorado State University" "Margarida Carvalho e Silva, University Catolica Portuguesa" "Mike Simek, Rutgers University" * "Bill Simon, Mobil Oil Corporation" * "Suzanne Simoni, PA Department of Environmental Resources" "Anita Singh, MI Department of Environmetal Quality" "Tim Sisson, Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Sciences" * "Joe Smith, Foss Environmental Services" * "Vanessa Smith, Ohio EPA -- OPP" * "Pete Smullen, Conneticut State Technology Extension Program" "Rodney Sobin, Concurrent Technologies" "Bill Sonntag, National Association of Metal Finishers" "Pradeep Srivastava, City of Detroit POTW" * "Robert Stea, NC Department of Environment, Health and Natural Resources" * "John Steinauer, Lincoln Landcaster County Health Department" * "Laurie Stevenson, Small Business Assistance Office, OH EPA" * "Kenny D. Steward, Pollution Prevention Pantex Plant" * "Jay Stimmel, Los Alamos National Lab" * "Chris Stinson, University of Texas, Austin" "Karen Sundheim, USEPA Region 9" "Victoria Sutton, Washington State Department of Ecology" * "John Svalina, US Army Material Command" * "David Swanson, Boulder County Health Department" "Brian Sweeney, NIST Manufacturing Extension Program" * "Jason Sysak, University of Florida Industrial Assessment Center" __T__ * "Steven W. Taglang, PA Department of Environmental Protection" "Joy Taylor, MI DNR" "Linda Taylor, NC State University, Industrial Extension Office" * "John Thom, Concurent Technologies Corporation" * "David Thomas, IL Waste Management and Research Center" * "John Thompson, Central States Education Center" * "Albert Tieche, UT CIS" * "Richard Tieder, MI Technological University" "Ben Torreon, US Army Center for Health Promotion, Aberdeen" * "Loren C. Trick, Maxim Technologies" <74213.2047@compuserve.com> * "David Triplett, Strategic Technologies and Resources, Ltd." "Tim Tuominen, Western Lake Superior Sanitary District" * "Christine Twait, Iowa Waste Reduction Center" __U__ __V__ * "Chris van Atten, Abt Associates" * "Paul VanHollebeke, Vermont Agency of Natural Resources" * "Kirsten Vice, H.A. Simons Ltd. * "Kent Vincent, Chicago Manufacturing Center" "Michael Vogel, Montana State University Extension" "Jeff Voorhis, Texas Department of Natural Resources" __W__ "Pam Walkenbach, U of IL Cooperative Extension" * "Langdon S. Warner, PhD., University of South Carolina" * "Steve Warner, IL Waste Management and Research Center" "Alison Watkins, ReTAP" "Amy Whitehead, CAMP" or * "David Wigglesworth, ALASKA P2 Program" * "Tom Wildoner, Tobyhanna Army Depot" "David Williams, NC Office of Waste Reduction" * "Frankie Wood-Black, Phillips Petroleum, Woods Cross Refinery" "WRITAR (Waste Reduction Institute for Training and Applications Research)" * "Jack Wysoczanski, Anchor Hocking Packaging Company" __Y__ * "Alan Yen, AFY Inc." * "Vic Young, Waste Reduction Resource Center, Raleigh NC" __Z__ * "Paul Zakriski, BR Goodrich Research & Development Center" "Ellen Zimmer, NW-WI Manufacturing Outreach Center" * "Donald Zimmerman, Colorado State Technical Journalism" * "Karl Zollner, Michigan DNR-P2 Section" --=====================_852242368==_-- From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 12:02:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA14723 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:02:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 10:00:57 -0700 From: NEIL KOLWEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: semiconductors, water cons. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone know of a semiconductor manufacturer using counter-flow rinsing to save water? From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 13:55:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA22527 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:55:23 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta PNS1; Relayed; Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:51:03 -0500 MR-Received: by mta EPIC66; Relayed; Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:51:03 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:51:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Patty Hancock PEN 904/444-8300 Ext. 194" Subject: Name of an association To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:51:01 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal UA-content-id: A169IQK2RQCF X400-MTS-identifier: [;30153120107991/94631@PNS1] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone know the name of a tire recycling association located in Kentucky? They may handle retreads and appear at trade shows. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 15:18:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA28562 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:18:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 15:17:23 -0500 From: DANA ARNOLD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Name of an association -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The association is the International Tire and Rubber Association. They were formally called the American Retreaders Association. They represent tire retreaders and manufacturers of products containing recovered rubber. They also are affiliated with manufacturers of retreading equipment, rubber, and chemicals. They can be reached at the following address, phone number, e-mail, or web site: P.O. Box 37203 Louisville, KY 40233-7203 phone: 800-426-8835 e-mail: itra@aol.com Internet: http://www.itra.com The Executive Director is Marvin Bozarth. Dana Arnold Municipal Information & Analysis Branch U.S. Environmental Protection Agency 401 M Street, S.W. (5306W) Washington, DC 20460 arnold.dana@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 15:40:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA00706 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:40:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 2 Jan 1997 15:39:16 -0500 From: "Kevin Gashlin" Subject: Electronic Industry Scrap To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP 3.0.2 b1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm looking for corporate, public or private ventures currently recycling "electronic scrap" such as: - integrated circuits - printed circuit boards (PCBs) - cathode ray tubes (CRTs) Any referrals are welcomed. Kevin Gashlin National Technology Transfer Center From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 15:54:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA02168 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:54:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 15:47:55 -0600 From: "S. Isaacson" Subject: Re: Electronic Industry Scrap X-Sender: isaacsons@uwstout.edu To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19970102214755.00677c60@uwstout.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You may want to contact Curt Schmidt at cschmidt@westpub.com. He's a colleague of mine that has experience in disposing of scrap computer/electronic equipment. At 03:39 PM 1/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >I'm looking for corporate, public or private ventures currently recycling >"electronic scrap" such as: >- integrated circuits >- printed circuit boards (PCBs) >- cathode ray tubes (CRTs) > >Any referrals are welcomed. > >Kevin Gashlin >National Technology Transfer Center > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 2 21:04:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id VAA21289 for p2tech-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:04:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: www.ibm.net: uucp set sender to using -f Message-ID: <32CC6B7C.18D4@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 18:14:24 -0800 From: Thomas Barron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nkolwey@smtpgate.dphe.state.co.us CC: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Semicon Mfg. Water Reuse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I have seen a number of semiconductor fabrication shops use water sequentially, but not in a counter-current arrangement. = Examples include: Vacuum Pump Cooling --> DI Make-up --> Wafer Fab Rinses Wafer Fab Rinses --> Neutralization --> Cooling Tower Make-up Wafer Fab Rinses --> Neutralization --> Fume Scrubber Some shops looked at recycling their treated (neutralized) wastewater back to the DI feed, but most found that the payback period was longer than 5 years (I see in my files one recycling project with a payback of 8.4 years, plus others with much longer periods). = Also, because the value of semiconductor product is high, there has been a reluctance at most sites to risk contamination by rinsing wafers with recycled water. In 10/94, the City of San Jos=E9 issued a summary of "Industrial Mass Audit Studies" conducted by local firms looking for ways to reduce copper and nickel discharges. This report includes a few projects considered by semiconductor fabricators. Please let me know if you would like me to send you some project summaries from this report. Tom Barron (510) 283-8121 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 08:34:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA08304 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:34:57 -0500 (EST) From: "David Williams" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:34:40 EST Subject: Re: Electronic Industry Scrap X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <12979D0FA1@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Date: 2 Jan 1997 15:39:16 -0500 > From: "Kevin Gashlin" > Subject: Electronic Industry Scrap > To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" > Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > I'm looking for corporate, public or private ventures currently recycling > "electronic scrap" such as: > - integrated circuits > - printed circuit boards (PCBs) > - cathode ray tubes (CRTs) > > Any referrals are welcomed. > > Kevin Gashlin > National Technology Transfer Center > > Kevin, We maintain a Directory of Markets for Recyclable Materials that contains listings for 31 companies, mostly in NC, that recycle electronic equipment and scrap. The Directory can be downloaded from our web site in MS Word format. The URL is: http://www.owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/rbac/rbactech.htm#Markets Happy recycling! David Williams NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6527 Fax: (919) 715-6794 e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 09:11:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA10366 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:11:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 09:09:54 -0500 From: DANA ARNOLD To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net Subject: Tire Trade Association Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The trade association located in Kentucky is the International Tire and Rubber Association (formerly the American Retreaders Association). ITRA is one of two retreaders association, but they also represent other types of tire recyclers (e.g., crumb rubber manufacturers), manufacturers and suppliers of equipment, chemicals, and rubber, and recycled product manufacturers. They hold an annual conference and exhibition in April. Their address, phone, e-mail, and Internet address are: P.O. Box 37203 Louisville, KY 40233-7203 800-426-8835 itra@aol.com http://www.itra.com If you are looking for information about retreads, another excellent source is the Tire Retread Information Bureau (TRIB). Generally, it is TRIB, rather than ITRA, that exhibits at conferences. TRIB can be reached as follows: 900 Weldon Grove Pacific Grove, CA 93950 408-372-1917 retreads@aol.com Dana Arnold Municipal Information & Analysis Branch U.S. Environmental Protection Agency 401 M Street, S.W. (5306W) Washington, DC 20460 arnold.dana@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 10:27:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA16270 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:27:06 -0500 (EST) From: "DINA LI" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:25:13 EST Subject: affirmative procurement products X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <1A143635E5@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net happy new year! I'm trying to obtain copies of any research that may have been conducted to test and evaluate the long-term performance of construction products (e.g., carpeting, roofing materials) made with recycled products. A federal agency I'm assisting is reluctant to purchase the products without reviewing data that shows the products actually work. I obtained a copy of the EPA's publication on construction products with recycled products, and I guess I could call all of the many vendors listed, but I was wondering if any non-profit organizations had done some independent testing. Thanks. Dina Li Pollution Prevention Specialist SAIC 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 10:49:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA18338 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:49:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: affirmative procurement products -- building materials Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:48:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Diana, You could try contacting Joel Ann Todd, who's worked with the Architects trade association on LCA and green building materials. Since a good LCA will take into account the durability of alternative materials, I assume she has considered long term performance of some of the things you're looking at. Joel Ann is with The Scientific Consulting Group 301 670 4990 Email is science@cpcug.org Good luck Melissa ......................................... .......... Melissa Malkin Pollution Prevention Program Research Triangle Institute POB 12194. Research Triangle Park, N.C. 27709-2194 (ph) 919-541-6154 (fax) 919-541-7155 http://www.rti.org/units/ese/pp.html ..................................... .. >---------- >From: DINA LI[SMTP:DLI@lan828.ehsg.saic.com] >Sent: Friday, January 03, 1997 10:25 AM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: affirmative procurement products > >happy new year! I'm trying to obtain copies of any research that may >have been conducted to test and evaluate the long-term performance of >construction products (e.g., carpeting, roofing materials) made with >recycled products. A federal agency >I'm assisting is reluctant to purchase the products without reviewing >data that shows the products actually work. I obtained a copy of the >EPA's publication on construction products with recycled products, >and I guess I could call all of the many vendors listed, but I was >wondering if any non-profit organizations had done some independent >testing. Thanks. > >Dina Li >Pollution Prevention Specialist >SAIC >11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 >(703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 >dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 10:57:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA19131 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:57:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970103155742.008db528@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 09:57:42 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: thomas_ward@smtplink.sra.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Success Stories I am interested in finding out about any pollution prevention success stories relating to grocery stores or similar operations. If anyone knows of any, I would greatly appreciate hearing about them. Please respond to < thomas_ward@sra.com >. Thank you for the input. Tom Ward From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 10:58:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA19256 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:58:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970103155839.008ef574@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 09:58:39 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Holly Lynch To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Electronic Industry Scrap Kevin -- I am Director of Environmental Programs for the Institute for Interconnecting and Packaging Electronic Circuits - the national trade association representing the printed wiring board and assembly industries. The majority of our members send their off-spec PWBs to smelter for reclamation of the copper and precious metals. In addition, there is a growing number of private companies that specialize in the disassembly and resale of used computers and computer parts. What type of recycling information are you looking for? reclamation or reuse? If you want reclamation information, I can canvass some of my members. If you are seeking reuse information, I urge you to contact Grant Guilbeault at Reclamation Technologies. His email is grant.guilbeault@rectech.com Hope this helps! Holly Lynch, IPC HollyLynch@ipc.org ---------- From: Kevin Gashlin[SMTP:kgashlin@nttc.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 1997 3:39 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Electronic Industry Scrap I'm looking for corporate, public or private ventures currently recycling "electronic scrap" such as: - integrated circuits - printed circuit boards (PCBs) - cathode ray tubes (CRTs) Any referrals are welcomed. Kevin Gashlin National Technology Transfer Center From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 10:59:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA19313 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:59:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970103155930.008ecad0@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 09:59:30 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Elizabeth Zimmermann Subject: Electronics Recycling Hi--Two local companies I am aware of: 1. Micro Metallics (primarily recycles materials for precious metals recovery). Contact Mark TenBrink at (408) 998-4930. 2. Fox Electronics (also may take CRTs, etc.). Contact Jeff Simich at (408) 437-1577 Hope this helps. Elizabeth Zimmermann Director, Environmental Programs Santa Clara Valley Manufacturing Group 5201 Great America Parkway, Suite 426 Santa Clara, California 95054 ph:(408)496-6805; fax:(408)496-6804 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 11:11:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA20578 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:11:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970103161144.008d62e0@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 10:11:44 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: Printing List Servers Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Below is an announcement of a new email list that is for printers and others in the printing industry interested in pollution prevention. This list difference from existing lists on pollution prevention and printing in two ways: 1) it is targeted at printers and others in the industry. The goal is to promote discussion about pollution prevention among the members of the industry. 2) it is specifically for the Northeast region of the US (New England, New York and New Jersey. This announcement is being sent to this list because we would like to get the word out to printers in the Northeast. Please pass this information on to anyone in the printing industry that you know who might be interested in subscribing. Thank you! Maureen Hart (mhart@tiac.net) NEWMOA (NorthEast Waste Management Officials' Association) 617-367-8558 x308 Announcing P2PRINT, an electronic mailing list on pollution prevention (P2) in the printing industry. The list is for printing professionals in the northeastern United States interested in reducing or eliminating the use of toxics in printing. Unlike existing email lists like PRINTECH, which are for P2 professionals assisting people in industry, P2PRINT is a forum for the printers themselves. The goal of P2PRINT is to help printers help each other find answers to questions about environmental issues related to printing. This list will allow them to exchange information on experiences that they have implementing pollution prevention. The types of topics that will be discussed on the list include: - less toxic alternatives to existing inks - substitutions for existing cleaning solutions - ways to handle cleaning rags - managing hazardous or non hazardous printing wastes, - questions about new, existing or proposed environmental regulations - Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) on printing materials - questions about new techniques, processes, or equipment related to P2 in printing - training or upcoming meetings where pollution prevention in printing will be a topic In addition to printers in the northeastern United States, P2PRINT subscribers include other professionals who work with the printing industry such as environmental assistance providers, trade association staff, printing industry suppliers, and staff from federal and state environmental compliance and environmental regulatory programs. These other professionals provide expertise to answer specific questions when necessary. The region covered by P2PRINT is the northeastern United States, specifically Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Vermont, the area served by NEWMOA. P2PRINT has a regional focus to keep the list from becoming too cumbersome particularly since regulations vary greatly from one state to another. P2PRINT is managed by the Northeast Waste Management Official's Association (NEWMOA) under a grant from the US Environmental Protection Agency. Email list support is provided by the Great Lakes Information Network (GLIN). However, the subscribers of the list are "in charge" of the list. The subscribers' questions and answers provide the main method of exchanging information. In addition, NEWMOA staff will try to find answers for questions that do not generate answers from the list members. This may include contacting national P2 printing experts as well as forwarding messages to national P2 and printing lists. Individual subscribers may put their name and address on messages that they send to the list or subscribers can submit questions confidentially. In order to maintain confidentiality, a list of subscribers is not available. There is no charge to join P2PRINT. Anyone interested in pollution prevention and printing issues in the Northeast can subscribe to the list by sending an email message to p2print-request@great-lakes.net Include your name, email address and interest in P2 and printing in the Northeast. Questions about P2PRINT should be addressed to the P2PRINT list manager, Maureen Hart. She can be reached at NEWMOA, 129 Portland Street, Suite 601, Boston, MA 02114-2014, (617)367-8558 x308 or at mhart@tiac.net. From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 11:31:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA22313 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:31:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 11:29:23 -0500 From: DANA ARNOLD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, DLI@lan828.ehsg.saic.com Subject: affirmative procurement products -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dina Li inquired about information on recycled content construction products, particularly those products designated by the U.S. EPA. Dina, Please assure your client that EPA does not designate items unless we have information from other agencies and/or private sector purchasers that the products work. The information includes a track record of purchasing and using the products and the existance of specifications for the designated items. We like to refer to ASTM, ANSI, or other national consensus specifications but, in the absence of these, refer agencies to specifications developed by government agencies that actually are purchasing the products. The EPA guidelines reference the relevant specifications. In the case of carpet, the U.S. General Services Administration had been specifying and purchasing the product, and we referred agencies to GSA's schedules. We have not designated roofing materials, but we have designated insulation and paperboard products that having roofing system applications. Again, we provided references to relevant specifications. And our background documents, which can be found in the dockets for our designations contain further information. Please feel free to contact me or refer your client to me if you have additional questions. Dana Arnold U.S. EPA 703-308-7279 arnold.dana@epamail.epa.gov >>> "DINA LI" 01/03/97 10:25am >>> happy new year! I'm trying to obtain copies of any research that may have been conducted to test and evaluate the long-term performance of construction products (e.g., carpeting, roofing materials) made with recycled products. A federal agency I'm assisting is reluctant to purchase the products without reviewing data that shows the products actually work. I obtained a copy of the EPA's publication on construction products with recycled products, and I guess I could call all of the many vendors listed, but I was wondering if any non-profit organizations had done some independent testing. Thanks. Dina Li Pollution Prevention Specialist SAIC 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 13:39:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA01312 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:39:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 09:44:58 -0500 (EST) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re: P2 in Grocery Stores To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, thomas_ward@sra.com Message-id: <9700038523.AA852327707@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Tom Ward (thomas_ward@sra.com) asked about P2 in grocery stores. Here's a few contacts: A fellow by the name of Brant Rogers here in the Seattle area did wonderful things in a medium-sized upscale grocery market chain called "Larry's Market." Brant has since gone on to do consulting in the field. Brant's home phone (for lack of another) is 206-323-8859. I've put the contact info for Larry's Market below as well, in case you choose to contact their new environmental director. Environmental Director Larry's Market 16000 Christensen Road Bldg. 2, #300 Southcenter, WA (206) 243-2951 switchboard (206) 246-3953 fax Another organization you might contact is Associated Grocers, a wholesale distribution company that's won some regional recognition for their P2 work. Their contact is: Terry Farden Environmental Director Associated Grocers, Inc. PO Box 3763 Seattle, WA 98124 (206) 764-7610 Hope these help. Scott ___________________________________________________ Scott Butner (butner@battelle.org) Battelle Seattle Research Center 4000 NE 41st Street Seattle, WA 98105 206-528-3290 voice/206-528-3552 fax http://www.seattle.battelle.org/P2Online/ ___________________________________________________ _____ _________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 1/3/97 12:40 PM From: thomas_ward@smtplink.sra.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Success Stories I am interested in finding out about any pollution prevention success stories relating to grocery stores or similar operations. If anyone knows of any, I would greatly appreciate hearing about them. Please respond to < thomas_ward@sra.com >. Thank you for the input. Tom Ward From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 3 15:00:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA07700 for p2tech-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:00:29 -0500 (EST) From: EPA8603@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 13:55:20 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 in grocery stores Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net A few years ago, an environmental group in Illinois was working with several grocery stores in the state to promote P2 and recycling through a marketing campaign. For information, contact Central States Resource Center, 809 S. 5th, Champaign, IL 61820, (217) 344-2371. Kevin Greene, Illinois EPA From p2tech-owner Sat Jan 4 17:11:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA05323 for p2tech-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 17:11:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:19:33 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: cstinson@mail.utexas.edu (Christopher H. Stinson) Subject: 2 environmental conferences 30-31 Jan 97 and 1 Feb 97 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear Sir or Madam: The University of Texas will be hosting two conferences on environmental management 30-31 January 1997 and 1 February 1997. Both conferences are 1/2 to 2/3s sold out at this point, but space should be available for the next two weeks (I guess...). (1) KPMG/UT conference on "Environment, Health, and Safety Activity-Based Cost Accounting", 30-31 Jan 97 (Thurs and Fri). $250 registration. More info: http://www.bus.utexas.edu/~envman/abc.conf.html (2) UT/IC2/MCC conference on "Strategic Planning for Environmental Issues Facing the Electronics and High-Tech Industries", 1 Feb 97 (Sat). $100 registration. More info: http://www.bus.utexas.edu/~envman/UTMCC.conf.html (3) Registrants for both conferences are offered a reduced, combined rate of $275. (4) Hotel rooms are available at reduced rates. See the web pages for both conference registration and hotel registration details. You also may be interested in knowing of the Home Page for our Natural Resources and Environmental Management concentration (in the Graduate School of Business at the University of Texas at Austin). Our address is http://www.bus.utexas.edu/~envman Thanks! Chris Stinson -------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher H. Stinson (cstinson@mail.utexas.edu) Assistant Professor of Accounting Director, MBA program in Natural Resource and Environmental Management Department of Accounting M/S B6400 College of Business Administration University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas 78712-1172 phone: (512) 471-5318 fax: (512) 471-3904 From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 09:25:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA02135 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:25:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970106142606.0089ff04@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 08:26:06 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: (R. Thomas Griffin) to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 Employee Incentive Programs P2 Tech-sters: I've forwarded the attached question from one of our colleagues. Please respond directly to her if you can help, but copy me at "rtgriffin@DEQ.state.va.us" Thanks, Tom Griffin, VA DEQ -------------------------- [Original Message] ------------------------- I am interested in hearing about Pollution Prevention Employee Incentive Programs being used by private businesses or public institutions that have been used successfully to eliminate pollutants, to reduce waste, etc. If you know of any publications that describe the essence of such programs or if you have first hand knowledge of such a program, I would like to hear from you. Please respond to me via email, telephone, or fax as shown below. Thanks, Marolyn J. Parson, Ph.D. Pollution Prevention Specialist Manufacturing Technology Center mparson@naxs.com 540-223-4858 540-223-4850 FAX From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 10:22:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA05771 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:22:59 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: www.ibm.net: uucp set sender to using -f Message-ID: <32D11B32.325@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 07:33:11 -0800 From: Thomas Barron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Semiconductor Mfg. Water Use Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Over the weekend I checked my archives and found one additional report that has some water use reduction case studies for semiconductor firms: Douglas, Bruce, et al., "Case Studies of Industrial Water Conservation in the San José Area", State of California, Dept. of Water Resources, sacramento, 2/90, 167pp. Free copies are available from DWR: (916) 445-9371. Tom Barron From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 11:30:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA10694 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:30:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701061630.AA16921@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: Electronic Industry Scrap: Reply Date: Mon Jan 6 10:51:47 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Kevin wrote: I'm looking for corporate, public or private ventures currently recycling "electronic scrap" such as: - integrated circuits - printed circuit boards (PCBs) - cathode ray tubes (CRTs) Any referrals are welcomed. Kevin Gashlin National Technology Transfer Center ----------------------------------------------------------------------> There should be a lot of stuff in the p2tech achieves on the items you referenced. Please note what I found in my personal records: Date: October 16, 1996 Subject: Video Display Disposal Date: June 17, 1996 Subject: Semiconductors (recycling, etc.) Date: June 19, 1996 Subject: Recycling of Glass From VDTs Date: October 25, 1996 Subject: Video Display Disposal Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Recycling of Glass from VDTs Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Semiconductors Date: October 8, 1996 Subject; CRT issues Date: October 8, 1996 Subject; CRT issues Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Printed Circuit Boards (PCBs): Clarification Date: October 8, 1996 Subject: CRT issues (Reply) Date: July 31, 1996 Subject: Reuse/Recycling [Computers]: Followup Date: July 29, 1996 Subject; Computer Recycling & Legislative Interest - Reply Date: July 29, 1996 Subject: Computer Recycling/Legislation Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Circuit Boards/PCB Recyclers: Reply I have hard copies of these (about 20 pages total). If you want me to fax them to you, let me know. Hopes this helps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> Art Coleman Ohio EPA Division of Hazardous Waste Management P.O. Box 1049 Columbus, Ohio 43216-1049 (614) 644-2968 Fax (614) 728-1245 or (614) 644-2329 art_coleman@central.epa.ohio.gov From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 12:27:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA14700 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:27:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 07:53:07 MST -0700 From: TODD MACFADDEN POLLUTION PREVENTION To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <009ADF2F.1E183180.70@msu.oscs.montana.edu> Subject: Small photo developer Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone have any P2 ideas or contacts for a resident here who wants to add a dark room to his home? He's on a septic system. I have quite a bit of info for larger photo processors, but many of the P2 and treatment options (i.e., water recirculation and silver recovery) are likely infeasible for his scale. Aside from silver (and perhaps hydroquinone?), what other typical photo chemicals should he be concerned with for a septic system? Thanks for your input. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Todd MacFadden MSU Extension Service P2 Technical Specialist Taylor Hall (406) 994-3451(406) 994-5417 fax Bozeman, MT 59717 acxtm@trex.oscs.montana.edu O O O o o o o . . . . . O ======= Y__'_|_|_|_| --+++++++-- --++++++++-- --+++++-- |__|_| MT | | POLLUTION | | PREVENTION | | PROGRAM | {|____|_____|:|___________|:|____________|:|_________| /oo-----OO oo oo oo oo oo oo ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 12:29:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA14842 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:29:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970106172931.008a5cb0@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 11:29:31 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: P2 Employee Involvement Programs Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:32:29 -0800 From: Jeff Lewis Subject: P2 Employee Involvement Programs Our office, Ohio EPA Office of Pollution Prevention, developed a fact sheet titled "Enhancing Employee Involvement in Pollution Prevention Activties" (Sept. 1994/Fact Sheet #22). The fact sheet outlines components of successful P2 employee involvement activities. Included are short case studies about 3 Ohio companies. References and resources are also provided. The fact sheet is available from our homepage at http://www.epa.ohio.gov/opp/oppmain.html under Facility Planning/Management Strategies. I can also mail a hard copy or fax the fact sheet. Jeff Lewis Ohio EPA/Office of Pollution Prevention P.O. Box 1049 Columbus, Ohio 43216-1049 ph: (614) 644-2812 fax: (614) 728-1245 email: jeff_lewis@central.epa.ohio.gov From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 13:19:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA19183 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:19:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 6 Jan 1997 13:18:14 -0500 From: "Kevin Gashlin" Subject: Re: Electronic Industry Scrap: Reply To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP 3.0.2 b1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Art - Thanks for your help. I'll try to access the archive. If I fail I will contact you again. Kevin Gashlin ------ From: p2tech@great-lakes.net, Mon, Jan 6, 1997 ------ Kevin wrote: I'm looking for corporate, public or private ventures currently recycling "electronic scrap" such as: - integrated circuits - printed circuit boards (PCBs) - cathode ray tubes (CRTs) Any referrals are welcomed. Kevin Gashlin National Technology Transfer Center ----------------------------------------------------------------------> There should be a lot of stuff in the p2tech achieves on the items you referenced. Please note what I found in my personal records: Date: October 16, 1996 Subject: Video Display Disposal Date: June 17, 1996 Subject: Semiconductors (recycling, etc.) Date: June 19, 1996 Subject: Recycling of Glass From VDTs Date: October 25, 1996 Subject: Video Display Disposal Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Recycling of Glass from VDTs Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Semiconductors Date: October 8, 1996 Subject; CRT issues Date: October 8, 1996 Subject; CRT issues Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Printed Circuit Boards (PCBs): Clarification Date: October 8, 1996 Subject: CRT issues (Reply) Date: July 31, 1996 Subject: Reuse/Recycling [Computers]: Followup Date: July 29, 1996 Subject; Computer Recycling & Legislative Interest - Reply Date: July 29, 1996 Subject: Computer Recycling/Legislation Date: June 18, 1996 Subject: Circuit Boards/PCB Recyclers: Reply I have hard copies of these (about 20 pages total). If you want me to fax them to you, let me know. Hopes this helps. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> Art Coleman Ohio EPA Division of Hazardous Waste Management P.O. Box 1049 Columbus, Ohio 43216-1049 (614) 644-2968 Fax (614) 728-1245 or (614) 644-2329 art_coleman@central.epa.ohio.gov ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by stark.nttc.edu with SMTP;6 Jan 1997 11:37:00 -0500 Received: by filbx2.nttc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27343; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:36:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA10694 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:30:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701061630.AA16921@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: Electronic Industry Scrap: Reply Date: Mon Jan 6 10:51:47 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 15:15:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA28846 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:15:45 -0500 (EST) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199701062015.MAA21737@netcom17.netcom.com> Subject: LCA software To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:15:37 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm working on a project to develop an educational CD-ROM about life-cycle assessment concepts. If possible, we'd like to give students a taste of some LCA software. Does anybody out there know of anything in the public domain? I'd like to hear about even a piece of some licensed software that is available. Or does anybody know of a list of LCA software that is available so that we can contact the publishers about getting a "demo" version for use on our CD? I know about Boustead's data base. It really isn't the data we're interested in as much as the way it's presented, and it's the data that is worth the money for licensing, which makes this request only half-cracked, not totally cracked. Thanks. ==================================================================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. ==================================================================== From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 17:12:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA08347 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:12:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:12:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701062212.RAA08773@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: Re: LCA software Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Try the Tellus Institute in Massachusetts - 89 Broad Street, Boston, MA 02110-3542 Tel: 617-426-5844 fax: 617-426-7692 Good Luck, Vince Perelli . At 12:15 PM 1/6/97 -0800, you wrote: >I'm working on a project to develop an educational CD-ROM about >life-cycle assessment concepts. If possible, we'd like to give students >a taste of some LCA software. Does anybody out there know of anything in the >public domain? I'd like to hear about even a piece of some licensed >software that is available. Or does anybody know of a list of LCA software >that is available so that we can contact the publishers about getting >a "demo" version for use on our CD? > >I know about Boustead's data base. It really isn't the data we're >interested in as much as the way it's presented, and it's the data >that is worth the money for licensing, which makes this request only >half-cracked, not totally cracked. > >Thanks. > >==================================================================== > Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles > P.O. Box 8264 > 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 > rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. >==================================================================== > > Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 6 18:22:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA12496 for p2tech-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:22:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701062322.RAA19273@mailhub.iastate.edu> X-Sender: rprusk@pop-2.iastate.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 17:20:46 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Richard P. Rusk" Subject: Re: LCA software Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am one of about 20 DOE-qualified life-cycle cost instructors. We teach a course which uses software named BLCC, for building life-cycle cost. It is developed by NIST and is public domain. It is available for download on the web. It is at http://www.eren.doe.gov/femp/techasst.html If you are interested in energy conservation programs you should start at the top of this site at http://www.eren.doe.gov EREN is the Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Network. Dick Rusk At 12:15 PM 1/6/97 -0800, you wrote: >I'm working on a project to develop an educational CD-ROM about >life-cycle assessment concepts. If possible, we'd like to give students >a taste of some LCA software. Does anybody out there know of anything in the >public domain? I'd like to hear about even a piece of some licensed >software that is available. Or does anybody know of a list of LCA software >that is available so that we can contact the publishers about getting >a "demo" version for use on our CD? > >I know about Boustead's data base. It really isn't the data we're >interested in as much as the way it's presented, and it's the data >that is worth the money for licensing, which makes this request only >half-cracked, not totally cracked. > >Thanks. > >==================================================================== > Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles > P.O. Box 8264 > 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 > rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. >==================================================================== > Richard Rusk, P.E. Staff Engineer Iowa State University Industrial Assessment Center 2088 Black Engineering Building Ames, Iowa 50011-2161 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 rprusk@iastate.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 04:06:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id EAA00856 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:06:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 09:08:40 +0100 From: "Noel Duffy" Subject: Re: LCA software To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: VersaTerm Link v1.1.3 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Kirsten There is a project in Europe to develop educational material about life-cycle assessments. It has produced a video, some demonstration software and case studies. The contact person at the co-ordinating body - the Finnish Association of Engineers (TEK) - is: - Director Sirkka Poyry (Ms.) - Address: Ratavartijankatu 2, 00520 Helsinki, Finland - Phone: +358-9-2291 2257, Fax: +358-9-2291 2944, Email: Sirkka.Poyry@tek.fi - Internet: http://www.tek.fi/ You should also take a look at the site: http://www.pre.nl They produce SimaPro and are involved in the above project. They have a demo version of the software available for download. You can also get a spreadsheet for packaging type studies from Procter & Gamble. Finally there are a number of sites that deal with ecodesign of products, they might also be useful. Let me know how you get on, I would like to see the finished article - to use with my students!! Regards Noel Duffy Clean Technology Centre, Ireland >I'm working on a project to develop an educational CD-ROM about >life-cycle assessment concepts. If possible, we'd like to give students >a taste of some LCA software. Does anybody out there know of anything in the >public domain? I'd like to hear about even a piece of some licensed >software that is available. Or does anybody know of a list of LCA software >that is available so that we can contact the publishers about getting >a "demo" version for use on our CD? > >I know about Boustead's data base. It really isn't the data we're >interested in as much as the way it's presented, and it's the data >that is worth the money for licensing, which makes this request only >half-cracked, not totally cracked. > >Thanks. > >==================================================================== > Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles > P.O. Box 8264 > 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 > rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. >==================================================================== > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 08:23:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA06270 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:23:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:23:46 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701071323.OAA08697@glen.ib.be> X-Sender: mlee8946@mail.ib.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: marc.leemans@infoboard.be (Marc Leemans) Subject: Re: LCA software Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi there, In order to complete the other messages about LCA software i would like to point to following URL : http://www.luna.nl/turtlebay I found this one, by accident, in a Dutch journal called "Milieumarkt". Best regards, Marc Leemans TWICA-OVAM e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : *Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : ==> http://www.ovam.be *Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice *Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) ==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 08:41:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA07071 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:41:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Baskir, Jesse N." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: LCA Software Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:41:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Kirsten, There are a couple of places you can look to get information on LCA software. Some web sites that have information (and possibly demos) of LCA software include the following: http://www.ecosite.co.uk/ http://www.leidenuniv.nl/interfac/cml/lcanet/hp22.htm http://www.io.org/~lca/ http://shogun.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/usjapan/ecods.htm http://mgt.kaist.ac.kr/~kbs/interest_lca.html For more complete listings of LCA and LCA-related software, you can check out our resource guide of life cycle costing tools at http://es.inel.gov/partners/acctg/rev/toc.htm or I can fax you a listing of LCA software that is published in the MCC Electronics Industry Roadmap. Send me your fax number if you would like this. I have some other listings that I could send you as well... -Keith Weitz Research Triangle Institute (919) 541-6973 >kaw@rti.org From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 09:13:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA08685 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:13:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970107141333.0089f0d4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 08:13:33 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Cc: remaus@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Chris Rust To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Small photo developer I've operated a black & white darkroom in my home, which is serviced by a septic system, for nine years without any problems. I got the MSDS's for all commonly used chemicals from Kodak and there weren't any that couldn't be "flushed to the sewer with adequate rinse water". Good practice is to mix spent developer, stop bath, and fixer before discharging in order to neutralize the acidic and alkaline components. About the only thing I might worry about if I was also drinking from a nearby well is the use of selenium toner. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Chris Rust, Waste Reduction Consultant 310 Upper Laurel Dr., Hendersonville, NC 28739 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 09:29:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA09515 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:29:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:29:11 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701071429.PAA13422@glen.ib.be> X-Sender: mlee8946@mail.ib.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: marc.leemans@infoboard.be (Marc Leemans) Subject: best P2 sites Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello, Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in different industrial sectors ? I'm looking for direct information, free discribings, downloadable texts, ... Thanks in advance, Best regards, Marc Leemans TWICA-OVAM e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : *Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : ==> http://www.ovam.be *Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice *Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) ==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 10:03:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA11576 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:03:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:02:47 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701071502.QAA22827@nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl> X-Sender: uugluszy@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Pawel Gluszynski Subject: Re: best P2 sites Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 15:29 97-01-07 +0100, you wrote: >Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net >describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in >different industrial sectors ? htpp://www.rec.org/poland/wpa/net-p2cp.htm Greetings <<<< Pawel ........................................................ Ogolnopolskie Towarzystwo Zagospodarowania Odpadow "3R" Waste Prevention Association "3R" ul. Slawkowska 12, 31-014 Krakow, Poland tel./fax: (+48 12) 222 264, 222 147, fax: 212-107 e-mail: uugluszy@cyf-kr.edu.pl URL: http://www.rec.org/poland/wpa/wpa.htm ........................................................ From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 10:17:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA12589 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:14:59 -0800 Message-ID: <2d269050@ccmail.rl.gov> Subject: Small Business Assessments To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm looking for case studies where a formal pollution prevention assessment was conducted in a small business--any industry. I am interested in seeing the results as well as the actual assessment. Thank you. Mary Betsch RUST Federal Services Hanford, Inc. P.O. Box 700, H6-06 Richland, WA 99352 (p) (509) 372-1627 (f) (509) 373-0743 e-mail Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 10:22:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA12833 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:22:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32D0B391.34E5@erols.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 03:10:57 -0500 From: George Cushnie Organization: CAI Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: best P2 sites References: <199701071429.PAA13422@glen.ib.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Marc Leemans wrote: > > Hello, > > Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net > describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in > different industrial sectors ? > > I'm looking for direct information, free discribings, downloadable texts, ... > > Thanks in advance, > > Best regards, > > Marc Leemans > TWICA-OVAM > e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : > > *Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : > ==> http://www.ovam.be > > *Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) > ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) > ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice > > *Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) > ==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm > For the Metal Finishing Industry, there is the National Metal Finishing Resource Center (http://www.nmfrc.org). This is a joint industry--govt. site. Regards, George Cushnie From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 10:29:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA13328 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:29:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:28:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701071528.QAA22995@nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl> X-Sender: uugluszy@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Pawel Gluszynski Subject: Re: best P2 sites Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 15:29 97-01-07 +0100, you wrote: >Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net >describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in >different industrial sectors ? Sorry, I gave you incorrect address in my previous posting. It should be: http://www.rec.org/poland/wpa/net-p2cp.htm Greetings <<<< Pawel ........................................................ Ogolnopolskie Towarzystwo Zagospodarowania Odpadow "3R" Waste Prevention Association "3R" ul. Slawkowska 12, 31-014 Krakow, Poland tel./fax: (+48 12) 222 264, 222 147, fax: 212-107 e-mail: uugluszy@cyf-kr.edu.pl URL: http://www.rec.org/poland/wpa/wpa.htm ........................................................ From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 10:36:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA13859 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:36:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:38:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199701071538.KAA18478@sleepy.ebtech.net> X-Sender: glppcnet@mail.ebtech.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: sarnia@glppc.org (GLPPC) Subject: Re: best P2 sites X-Mailer: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Marc The Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre has a WWW site at . We are in the process of updating our site which should be completed by the end of January. (We will be constantly updating, so keep on checking it out). We are trying to get more Canadian P2 information, contacts, etc. on our site as this information is not readily available. Let us know what you think of our site, feedback will help make this site useful and informative. Deb Foster Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre --------- >Hello, > >Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net >describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in >different industrial sectors ? > >I'm looking for direct information, free discribings, downloadable texts, ... > >Thanks in advance, > >Best regards, > >Marc Leemans >TWICA-OVAM >e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : > >*Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : > ==> http://www.ovam.be > >*Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) >==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) >==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice > >*Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) >==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm > > > Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre 265 N. Front St., Suite 112 Sarnia, ON N7T 7X1 Tel: (519) 337-3423 Fax: (519) 337-3486 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 11:31:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA18694 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:31:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:31:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701071631.LAA25993@cinna.ultra.net> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Re: best P2 sites Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Mark, I hope you will find P2Gems at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ to be useful. It is a recently updated and catalogued list of 300 sites with "meat" for P2 practitioners. Janet At 03:29 PM 1/7/97 +0100, Marc Leemans wrote: >Hello, > >Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net >describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in >different industrial sectors ? > >I'm looking for direct information, free discribings, downloadable texts, ... > >Thanks in advance, > >Best regards, > >Marc Leemans >TWICA-OVAM >e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : > >*Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : > ==> http://www.ovam.be > >*Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) >==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) >==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice > >*Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) >==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm > > > > Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org Check out the NBEN interactive site at http://www.nben.org and... P2Gems, a web search tool at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 11:36:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA19292 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:36:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970107163711.006a7dd4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:37:11 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Lisa C. Morrison" Subject: Re: best P2 sites Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The Great Lakes Regional Pollution Prevention Roundtable Site is located at: Lisa At 03:29 PM 1/7/97 +0100, you wrote: >Hello, > >Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net >describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in >different industrial sectors ? > >I'm looking for direct information, free discribings, downloadable texts, ... > >Thanks in advance, > >Best regards, > >Marc Leemans >TWICA-OVAM >e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : > >*Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : > ==> http://www.ovam.be > >*Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) >==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) >==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice > >*Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) >==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm > > > > ********************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison 217/244-6061 (v) Information Specialist 217/333-8944 (f) IL Waste Management and Research Cnt. morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 ********************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 12:07:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA22229 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:07:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Parsloe, Rolfe P." To: P2TECH Cc: "Granberg, Richard L" Subject: Disposal Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 09:05:00 PST Message-Id: <32D28268@mailgate.ecy.wa.gov> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net What about the silver that the chemical causes to come off the film in the developing process? I suspect the silver will end up in the sludge in your septic tank. When the sludge is pumped where does it end up? On a farmers field or animal pasture? In Washington State MSDS's are required to list "health hazards" at 1% or greater concentration and carcinogens at 0.1% or greater concentration. 1% = 10,000 PPM and 0.1% = 1000 PPM. Using MSDS's to designate waste has serious limitations and is at best guesswork. What about people with wells downgradient from your drainfield? It may take 10 or 100 years for contaminants to reach them or it may be that the contaminants will never reach them. Too much guesswork for me. Why not collect the spent photographic solutions and bring them to a silver recovery operation? Perhaps a University in the local area would be willing to accept your waste for a nominal fee. People that have invested in silver recovery equipment realize a faster capitol cost recovery by processing more solution. In WA State there are Hazardous Waste collection events at County Landfills. At collection events household dangerous waste is collected, manifested and sent out for proper RCRA treatment and disposal. I do not recommend putting diluted spent photographic solutions into septic systems. Rolfe Parsloe WA State Dept. Ecology RPAR461@ECY.WA.GOV (509) 454-4329 ---------- From: p2tech-owner To: p2tech Cc: remaus Date: Tuesday, January 07, 1997 8:13AM From: Chris Rust To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Small photo developer I've operated a black & white darkroom in my home, which is serviced by a septic system, for nine years without any problems. I got the MSDS's for all commonly used chemicals from Kodak and there weren't any that couldn't be "flushed to the sewer with adequate rinse water". Good practice is to mix spent developer, stop bath, and fixer before discharging in order to neutralize the acidic and alkaline components. About the only thing I might worry about if I was also drinking from a nearby well is the use of selenium toner. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Chris Rust, Waste Reduction Consultant 310 Upper Laurel Dr., Hendersonville, NC 28739 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 12:14:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA22696 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:14:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 12:20:47 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: Unreacted Propylene MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi all, I have a research company which is about to add a new reactor to make polypropylene. Since they will be doing the reactions on a research basis, they anticipate they will at times have unreacted propylene left over. They intend to condense and collect this in a cylinder, anticpating 2-300 lbs every couple of months. Does anyone know of any uses for the unreacted propylene? We discussed reducing the unreacted amounts, but since what they are doing is research in varying reaction times, this may be difficult. I would greatly appreciate any help here as well. Thanks once again. Andrea K. Farrell Manager Pollution Prevention Program DNREC P.O. Box 1401, 89 Kings Hwy. Dover, DE 19903 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 FAX afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 12:26:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA23542 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: Santala@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:25:38 -0500 Message-ID: <970107113000_678700895@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: No Subject Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In a message dated 97-01-07 09:19:16 EST, you write: >>Does anyone have any P2 ideas or contacts for a resident here who wants to >>add a dark room to his home? He's on a septic system. >>I have quite a bit of info for larger photo processors, but many of the P2 and >>treatment options (i.e., water recirculation and silver recovery) are likely >>infeasible for his scale. Aside from silver (and perhaps hydroquinone?), what >>other typical photo chemicals should he be concerned with for a septic system? >From: Chris Rust >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Re: Small photo developer > >I've operated a black & white darkroom in my home, which is serviced by a >septic system, for nine years without any problems. I got the MSDS's for >all commonly used chemicals from Kodak and there weren't any that couldn't >be "flushed to the sewer with adequate rinse water". Good practice is to >mix spent developer, stop bath, and fixer before discharging in order to >neutralize the acidic and alkaline components. About the only thing I might >worry about if I was also drinking from a nearby well is the use of >selenium toner. > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >Chris Rust, Waste Reduction Consultant >310 Upper Laurel Dr., Hendersonville, NC 28739 Todd: ALLWAYS check with local authorities before making the decision. What's legal/acceptable in one area may not be in another. Specifically, there may be local problems/concerns that would prohibit the 'normal' mode of doing things. (i.e., If there is a local problem with Se or Ag in groundwater, the County may have regs prohibiting discharge to septic systems-at ANY concentration!). In my area, the County's Dept. of Environmental Health Services would handle this type of thing. Probably the same for you, but could also be under the Fire dept., and/or HAZMAT Programs division. ...just a thought. Scott S. Santala, R.E.A. Mesa Associates Environmental Services PO Box 1163 Nipomo, CA 93444 (805) 929-5565 Santala@aol.com From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 12:42:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA24672 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:42:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 11:50:13 -0600 From: Richard Grote To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Unreacted Propylene -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Here is a shot in the dark, have the company look into using the unreacted material as a supplement to their feedstock. While this can vary widely with the chemical being produced several chemical companies have been success ful using out of spec (start-up/shut down rejects) blending them at around 10% and using it as a feedstock for the process. ********************************************************* Richard F. Grote, Ph.D. Phone: (512) 239-3181 TNRCC/OPPR FAX: (512) 239-3165 MC-112 P.O. Box 13087 Austin, TX 78711-3087 email: rgrote@tnrcc.state.tx.us ******************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 13:48:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA29303 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:48:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701071848.NAA29279@cedar.cic.net> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 13:47:43 EST From: "MASANET ERIC R MASANER - NPEO" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: NO SUBJECT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reference: Note from (I1995055 - IBMMAIL) attached below ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello everyone, Sorry for the re-posting of the attachments, but I wanted to ask for some clarification (mostly for my own benefit). I have absolutely no experience with the types of chemicals used to develop photographs, but the dialogue in the attached seems to indicate that they are somewhat hazardous (i.e. something we don't want circulating in our water supply). If this is true, then wouldn't the act of mixing the solutions together and flushing them to the sewer system simply shift the inherent pollution from one place to another (i.e. from the home developer to the sewage system, possibly even the ground- water, and ultimately to the sewage treatment plant)? The hazardous chemicals and resultant pollution will still need to "cleaned-up" a some later stage, and so this approach does not seem consistent with the philosophy of Pollution *Prevention* as I understand it. If someone could please clarify this point, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your help. Eric Masanet Research Assistant - Manufacturing Group Northwestern University Evanston, IL Design Engineer Caterpillar Inc. Aurora, IL masanet@cat.e-mail.com -------------------------------- ATTACHED NOTE -------------------------------- From: Santala@aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:25:38 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: No Subject In a message dated 97-01-07 09:19:16 EST, you write: >>Does anyone have any P2 ideas or contacts for a resident here who wants to >>add a dark room to his home? He's on a septic system. >>I have quite a bit of info for larger photo processors, but many of the P2 and >>treatment options (i.e., water recirculation and silver recovery) are likely >>infeasible for his scale. Aside from silver (and perhaps hydroquinone?), what >>other typical photo chemicals should he be concerned with for a septic system? >From: Chris Rust >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Re: Small photo developer > >I've operated a black & white darkroom in my home, which is serviced by a >septic system, for nine years without any problems. I got the MSDS's for >all commonly used chemicals from Kodak and there weren't any that couldn't >be "flushed to the sewer with adequate rinse water". Good practice is to >mix spent developer, stop bath, and fixer before discharging in order to >neutralize the acidic and alkaline components. About the only thing I might >worry about if I was also drinking from a nearby well is the use of >selenium toner. > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >Chris Rust, Waste Reduction Consultant >310 Upper Laurel Dr., Hendersonville, NC 28739 Todd: ALLWAYS check with local authorities before making the decision. What's legal/acceptable in one area may not be in another. Specifically, there may be local problems/concerns that would prohibit the 'normal' mode of doing things. (i.e., If there is a local problem with Se or Ag in groundwater, the County may have regs prohibiting discharge to septic systems-at ANY concentration!). In my area, the County's Dept. of Environmental Health Services would handle this type of thing. Probably the same for you, but could also be under the Fire dept., and/or HAZMAT Programs division. ...just a thought. Scott S. Santala, R.E.A. Mesa Associates Environmental Services PO Box 1163 Nipomo, CA 93444 (805) 929-5565 Santala@aol.com ---- End of mail text Additional SMTP headers from original mail item follow: Received: from cedar.cic.net by E-MAIL.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Tue, 07 Jan 97 13:02:43 EST Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA23542 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:26:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970107113000_678700895@emout10.mail.aol.com> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 14:00:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00381 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:00:40 -0500 (EST) From: goldbergt@woods.uml.edu Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 14:00:21 EST To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <009AE02B.95FC5A80.3@woods.uml.edu> Subject: Metal Coatings Expertise Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear P2Techers, NEWMOA is putting together a manual for technical assistance providers on metal coating (mainly painting). We are tryihng to put together a list of technical assistance providers that have a great deal of experience withthis process. If you would like your organization to be included in this list please email me at newmoa@aol.com or call me at (617) 367-8558 ext. 304. Please include the following information Organization name contact name address phone number fax number email address Web URL (if applicable) Thanks!!! Lisa Regenstein NEWMOA 129 Portland Street Boston, MA 02114 Ph: 617-367-8558 Fax: 617-367-0449 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 14:04:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00658 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:04:17 -0500 (EST) From: "GREG NEWMAN" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:03:57 EST Subject: Re: Unreacted Propylene X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <59AC44764@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Andrea We have worked with 2 large duPont facilities which have been extremely proactive in addressing waste streams from their polymerization processes. They may have experience with problems similar to the one you described. Contacts Jan Kneib Environmental Coordinator Kinston, NC (919) 522-6294 Kristen Beck Environmental Specialist Wilmington, NC (910) 371-5156 Thanks Greg Greg Newman NC Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance PO Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6526 Fax: (919) 715-6794 Email: Greg_Newman@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 14:06:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00825 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:06:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:06:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701071906.OAA00825@cedar.cic.net> From: BARBARA KEMPNER To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: affirmative procurement products -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dina, I have obtained the following information from B.J. Harris regarding your questions on testing and evaluation of long-term performance of construction products. She distributes something called the Harris Directory for Recycled Construction Products. If you need more information from her, she can reached by calling (505) 995-0337 (in Sante Fe, New Mexico). What she told me casually is that many of the building materials used today as new materials made from recycled materials have been used for many years before. Unfortunately, they were not advertised as recycled materials because 30-40 years ago the public may have thought they were being cheated by the use of used materials. Now it is the right thing to do so they advertise the fact. Publication entitled "Building for Tommorrow" by B.J. Harris is available through National Recyclling Congress at (703) 683-9025. Phil Bailley at Eastern Research Group may have some additional information. He can be reached at (703) 841-0498. There is an Environmental Building Newsletter that has been published for about 4 years in Brattleboro, Vermont. You may obtain a sample copy before signing up by calling (802) 257-7300. I will continue to look for more information for you by searching the Harris Directory which is on disk. I'll let you know if I obtain more specific information for you. Barbara From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 14:26:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA02456 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:25:35 EST Subject: Re: best P2 sites X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <5F7090B08@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:29:11 +0100 (MET) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: marc.leemans@infoboard.be (Marc Leemans) Subject: best P2 sites Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Marc asks: Hello, Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in different industrial sectors ? I'm looking for direct information, free discribings, downloadable texts, ... Thanks in advance, Best regards, Marc Leemans TWICA-OVAM e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be ******************************************************* Marc, I think the EPA Sector Notebooks will get you started in the right direction. There is a book for each of 18 different industries. The books describe an industry, give the pollution outputs, and also give pollution prevention opportunities within that industry. The books can be downloaded from the the INTERNET at http://www.es.inel.gov/ Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 14:51:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA04314 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:51:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 14:56:32 -0500 From: ANTONIO BASKERVILLE To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: affirmative procurement products -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I wanted to know where you obtained a document on recycling of contruction products from the EPA. Could you give contact information? Antonio D. Baskerville (contractor) PPIC 202-260-8384 e-mail: baskerville.antonio@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 14:52:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA04502 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:52:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32D2A405.2ED@ci.lincoln.ne.us> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 11:29:09 -0800 From: Air Lab Organization: Lincoln-Lancaster County Health X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2 Techers, We are working with a local medium-sized crane manufacturer that is examining powder coating as an alternative coating for their cranes. We have been unable to locate case studies of similar manufacturers of heavy, medium-sized cranes or machinery that are successfully powder coating their equipment. Any leads on case studies would be greatly appreciated! Chris Schroeder Pollution Prevention Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 15:11:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA05734 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:11:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Parsloe, Rolfe P." To: P2TECH Subject: Disposal of Photographic Waste Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 12:08:00 PST Message-Id: <32D2AD6B@mailgate.ecy.wa.gov> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net What about the silver that the chemical causes to come off the film in the developing process? I suspect the silver will end up in the sludge in your septic tank. When the sludge is pumped where does it end up? On a farmers field or animal pasture? In Washington State MSDS's are required to list "health hazards" at 1% or greater concentration and carcinogens at 0.1% or greater concentration. 1% = 10,000 PPM and 0.1% = 1000 PPM. Using MSDS's to designate waste has serious limitations and is at best guesswork. What about people with wells downgradient from your drainfield? It may take 10 or 100 years for contaminants to reach them or it may be that the contaminants will never reach them. Too much guesswork for me. Why not collect the spent photographic solutions and bring them to a silver recovery operation? Perhaps a University in the local area would be willing to accept your waste for a nominal fee. People that have invested in silver recovery equipment realize a faster capitol cost recovery by processing more solution. In WA State there are Hazardous Waste collection events at County Landfills. At collection events household dangerous waste is collected, manifested and sent out for proper RCRA treatment and disposal. I do not recommend putting diluted spent photographic solutions into septic systems. Rolfe Parsloe WA State Dept. Ecology RPAR461@ECY.WA.GOV (509) 454-4329 ---------- From: p2tech-owner To: p2tech Cc: remaus Date: Tuesday, January 07, 1997 8:13AM From: Chris Rust To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Small photo developer I've operated a black & white darkroom in my home, which is serviced by a septic system, for nine years without any problems. I got the MSDS's for all commonly used chemicals from Kodak and there weren't any that couldn't be "flushed to the sewer with adequate rinse water". Good practice is to mix spent developer, stop bath, and fixer before discharging in order to neutralize the acidic and alkaline components. About the only thing I might worry about if I was also drinking from a nearby well is the use of selenium toner. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Chris Rust, Waste Reduction Consultant 310 Upper Laurel Dr., Hendersonville, NC 28739 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 15:18:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA06334 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:18:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701072017.OAA37580@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: pannis@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 14:15:12 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Phillip J. Annis" Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Chris I don't think you will find many if any case studies on crane mfgs using powder coating. The size of assembly, subassemblies and thickness of metal to be coated makes it difficult to powder coat such a beast. Through-put is a problem for higher volume mfg's as well. However smaller parts or components of a crane could likely be powder coated first then assembled, perhaps followed by liquid spray touch-up. Don't over look the new liquid coating technologies as an option for this company. We recently worked with a large crane mfg that put in a new electrostatic system, computer controlled with low VOC paints. The system uses much less paint, far less VOC emitted and line flush-gun cleaning options on the new system have reduced clean-up solvent waste to very small quantity generator levels. At 11:29 AM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote: >P2 Techers, > >We are working with a local medium-sized crane manufacturer that is >examining powder coating as an alternative coating for their cranes. > >We have been unable to locate case studies of similar manufacturers of >heavy, medium-sized cranes or machinery that are successfully powder >coating their equipment. > >Any leads on case studies would be greatly appreciated! > > >Chris Schroeder >Pollution Prevention >Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 7 15:50:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA08610 for p2tech-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:50:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Linda Taylor" Organization: Industrial Extension Service To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:55:09 +5000 Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In response to your question concerning powder coating of large machinery, I spoke with the Industrial Electrotechnology Lab (IEL) at North Carolina State University (and right next door to my office). They work with industries in North Carolina and Virginia on powder coating conversions. Derrick Williams of IEL said that the problem is not with the powder coating itself, but with the size of the oven to cure the parts. They had a call from a similar type of industry here in NC, and figured that they would need an oven as tall as a house. Not feasible. For more information however he suggested calling PCI (the Powder coating Institute) at 703-684-1770 and talk with Clark Mulligan. Hope that helps Linda Reinders Taylor North Carolina State University Industrial Extension Service Box 7902 Raleigh, NC, 27695 (919) 515-5958 > P2 Techers, > > We are working with a local medium-sized crane manufacturer that is > examining powder coating as an alternative coating for their cranes. > > We have been unable to locate case studies of similar manufacturers of > heavy, medium-sized cranes or machinery that are successfully powder > coating their equipment. > > Any leads on case studies would be greatly appreciated! > > > Chris Schroeder > Pollution Prevention > Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department > From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 00:59:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id AAA02749 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:59:10 -0500 (EST) From: DrRojo@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:58:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970108005830_1957564635@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Metal Coatings Expertise Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In a message dated 97-01-07 14:11:06 EST, you write: > >NEWMOA is putting together a manual for technical assistance >providers on metal coating (mainly painting). ....... Please include the following information >Organization name >contact name >address >phone number >fax number >email address >Web URL (if applicable) > > Ron Joseph Ron Joseph & Associates, Paints, Coatings & Solvents Consultants 12514 Scully Ave. Saratoga, CA 95070 (408) 446-9736 FAX (408) 867-0768 or (408) 446-9736 drrojo@aol.com Web site is under construction From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 02:52:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id CAA11282 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:52:28 -0500 (EST) From: DrRojo@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:51:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970108005838_780034861@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In a message dated 97-01-07 14:56:20 EST, Chris Schroeder wrote: > >We are working with a local medium-sized crane manufacturer that is >examining powder coating as an alternative coating for their cranes. > >We have been unable to locate case studies of similar manufacturers of >heavy, medium-sized cranes or machinery that are successfully powder >coating their equipment. > >Any leads on case studies would be greatly appreciated! > > As other have already pointed out, the major problem with putting large parts into an oven is that you need an oven large enough to handle a crane and bake the coating at >300oF. Other problems are as follows: 1. Unlike liquid coatings, once the powder coated part comes out of the oven it is VERY difficult to deal with coating defects, such as voids, runs (yes, you can get runs even in powder coatings), wrinkles, etc. With liquid coatings you can spot these defects long before the coating dries and cures, and can take appropriate action at that time. Even if you spot the defects after the liquid coating has cured, you can scuff-sand the defect and apply a repair coat of the same (liquid) coating. With powders things are different. The QC technician who sits at the upstream side of the oven needs to catch the defects BEFORE the part enters the oven. This is usually not too difficult on small parts, but can be a major headache on very large, complex shapes. It takes a well qualified technician to spot the defects while the powder is still in the powder state. The defects are easy to detect AFTER the powder has cured, but by then the damage has been done. Repairing the damage might mean sand- or bead-blasting the damaged area and then using a liquid coating of the same color to blend in with the acceptable areas. Tihs is not the only remedy, but is often the most practicable. If the large part comprises castings and/or thick metal components that act as heat sinks, the oven will need to raise the temperatures of these "sinks" to >300oF. This could lead to some very high energy costs. Moreover, the light sheet metal components (not heat sinks) may find themselves in the oven for too long, and the coating on these components might overbake. Some cranes are shipped to corrosive environments, such as near the coast. The company will need to establish how the crane will be protected from such corrosive atmospheres. Special primers (liquid or powder) applied under the final powder topcoat might be necessary. Compatibility between the corrosion-resistant primer and the topcoat must be evaluated. How will the steel be prepared prior to powder coating? This needs to be addressed. While it is not impossible to powder coat cranes, the company should study this FULLY before incurring the expense. The good news is that if the company is patient, powders will be available that cure at approximately 250oF. These will make it considerably more feasible for application to large parts. Ron Joseph Ron Joseph & Associates 12514 Scully Ave. Saratoga, CA 95070 (408) 446-9736 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 04:05:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id EAA12886 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 04:05:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:04:51 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701080904.KAA00193@glen.ib.be> X-Sender: mlee8946@mail.ib.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: WASTENET@MSU.EDU From: marc.leemans@infoboard.be (Marc Leemans) Subject: study waste management Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net *** Please feel free to cross-post this message *** Hello collegues, We here at the Public Waste Agency of Flanders are making a comparitive study to evaluate the state of the waste management in Flanders in comparision with The Netherlands, Germany, Wallonia (part of Belgium), France, Denmark and Sweden. We are looking for people or references who can help to finish this study. Therfore we are looking for following information : * How many kilograms of domestic waste was generated in these countries during 95 (kg/inhabitant) ? * Which parts of this waste are selected seperately ? * When will there come/be a ban of dumping waste ? * What/which are the tasks/legislation to prevent some parts of waste + Which parts of waste ? * Are there goals to prevent waste in the near future ? Which goals, how many %, e.g. ? Thanks in advance. Every information are warmly welcomed ! Best regards, Marc Leemans TWICA-OVAM e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : *Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : ==> http://www.ovam.be *Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice *Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) ==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 07:27:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id HAA16600 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 07:27:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 07:26:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701081226.HAA25129@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: Vapor degreaser retrofits Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2Techers, I just received a second - hand request regarding vendors of vapor degreasing retrofits (i.e., freeboard improvements, chillers, etc...) as well as new "ultratight" equipment. The company is apparently using an in-line vapor degreasing system with Trichloroethylene. Yes... I already voiced my concern to the second hand contact about the company just jumping into this choice as the preferred solution. Doesn't seem very strategic, and I much prefer a more open-minded, P2 approach. None-the-less, the request still stood. Any thoughts on this? I know that this is a fairly generic request. Thanks a bunch, Vince Perelli Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 08:13:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA18112 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:13:47 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:13:20 EST Subject: Re best P2Sites X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <17C37D3314@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Marc asks: (For some reason this did not go thru yesterday) Hello, Because i'm new to this list i would like to ask which sites on the net describe the most complete and interesting information concerning P2 in different industrial sectors ? I'm looking for direct information, free discribings, downloadable texts, ... Thanks in advance, Best regards, Marc Leemans TWICA-OVAM e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be ******************************************************* Marc, I think the EPA Sector Notebooks will get you started in the right direction. There is a book for each of 18 different industries. The books describe an industry, give the pollution outputs, and also give pollution prevention opportunities within that industry. The books can be downloaded from the the INTERNET at http://www.es.inel.gov/ Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 09:01:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA20221 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:01:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 08:01:47 -0600 From: KENNY D STEWARD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Polyurethane Foam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hey there! Greetings from the Panhandle of Texas! Does anyone out there know of a solvent that will dissolve polyurethane foam. We have an operation where we want to recover a glass cylinder encased in polyurethane foam without having to perform any cutting operations. Any Ideas? Thanks! Kenny Steward Pollution Prevention Pantex Plant From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 09:45:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA22991 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:45:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970108144543.0088b204@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 08:45:43 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: ADM: Apologies Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2Tech Subscribers: Thank you for your patience over the last few weeks. The wonderful people at GLIN upgraded the list server software recently (the improvements are very apparent!). I have had a few bumps getting everything back to normal, however. Please accept my apologies if you asked to be removed from the list over the Christmas holiday and were not. The removal function had a bug and, as I was checking messages remotely, I did not notice it until I returned. I also apologize if your message has appeared without a subject recently. The protocol for posting messages changed slightly and I missed it. I think everything is back to normal now! Lisa **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 11:17:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA29813 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:17:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Cornstubble, Dean R." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Vapor degreaser retrofits Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:17:14 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Although the referred document at http://es.inel.gov/p2pubs/ppc/226170.html does not talk about retrofit equipment, it does describe the types of technologies that exist that can use trichloroethylene with extremely low emissions over time. Let me know if you have questions. >---------- >From: Vince Perelli[SMTP:perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com] >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 1997 7:26 AM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Vapor degreaser retrofits > >P2Techers, > >I just received a second - hand request regarding vendors of vapor >degreasing retrofits (i.e., freeboard improvements, chillers, etc...) as >well as new "ultratight" equipment. The company is apparently using an >in-line vapor degreasing system with Trichloroethylene. > >Yes... I already voiced my concern to the second hand contact about the >company just jumping into this choice as the preferred solution. Doesn't >seem very strategic, and I much prefer a more open-minded, P2 approach. >None-the-less, the request still stood. Any thoughts on this? I know that >this is a fairly generic request. > >Thanks a bunch, > >Vince Perelli >Vincent R. Perelli >New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services >Pollution Prevention Program >6 Hazen Drive >Concord, NH 03301-6509 >phone: 603 271-2902 >fax: 603 271-2456 >perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com > > From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 12:37:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA06677 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:37:44 -0500 (EST) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 8-Jan-1997 12:38:52 -0500; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes From: sobin@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Sobin, Rodney) Date: 08 Jan 97 12:38:45 EST In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Chris, One my organic finishing colleagues who works on powder coating relayed to me that JLG Industries in Bedford, PA is powder coating components of their cranes and high-lifts. Our company (CTC) provided some assistance to JLG with testing and evaluating powder for its parts. I can try to find additional information if you're interested. Rodney Sobin sobin@ctc.com Concurrent Technologies Corp. tel 814-269-6895 1450 Scalp Ave. fax 814-269-6218 Johnstown, PA 15904-3374 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 13:58:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA12631 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 13:58:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Parsloe, Rolfe P." To: P2TECH Subject: Antifreeze Recycling Filters Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 10:43:00 PST Message-Id: <32D3EAE1@mailgate.ecy.wa.gov> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone have or know of anyone with lab reports (TCLP), fish toxicity, etc. concerning testing of the spent filters used in antifreeze recycling machines? Does anyone know of any studies that have been performed on the waste characteristics of antifreeze recycling filters? I have one such study entitled, "Characterization of Used Antifreeze Recycler Filters" done by Rey Verduzco (WA STATE Haz Waste Program King County ) in May 1996. The purpose of my inquiry concerns the fact that Washington State Law requires generators of such filters to test their filters or in lieu of testing dispose of the filters as dangerous waste. The study done by Verduzco indicates that filters will not designate as dangerous waste if the filters are backflushed/ drained, but the study concludes that more representative sampling is necessary to achieve statistical significance. I am looking for more antifreeze filter data to enable determining if testing is really necessary. Testing is expensive and I suspect that in WA most people just dispose of the filters as dangerous waste because it is cheaper than testing. If the overwhelming majority of these filters pass the TCLP and other tests I would like to see the WA law changed to avoid testing and enable disposal of these filters as solid waste. From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 15:59:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA21452 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:59:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701082058.PAA10354@dns2.uga.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "GA Hospitality Environmental Partnership" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:04:31 +0000 Subject: Re: Polyurethane Foam X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 08:01:47 -0600 > From: KENNY D STEWARD > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Polyurethane Foam > Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Hey there! Greetings from the Panhandle of Texas! > Does anyone out there know of a solvent that will dissolve polyurethane > foam. We have an operation where we want to recover a glass cylinder > encased in polyurethane foam without having to perform any cutting > operations. Any Ideas? > > Thanks! > Kenny Steward > Pollution Prevention > Pantex Plant Kenny, You might check with Harvey Katz of International Foam Solutions, Inc out of Del Ray Beach , FL (1.800.856.3626)...they have developed a solution which renders polystyrene into a gel, making it more economical to recycle...maybe it'll work on polyurethane. It's worth a try! P.S. say Hello to Kent Schuster when you see him...I'm his brother-in-law or is it He's MY brother-in-law? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Georgia Hospitality Environmental Partnership 60 Executive Park South, NE Atlanta, GA 30329-2231 Phone: (404) 679.1598 FAX: (404) 679.0572 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 17:29:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA28176 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:29:33 -0500 (EST) From: SVP2CPATF@aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:28:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970108170108_239016858@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: RE: NO SUBJECT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Eric: Thanks for keeping the P2 goal in prominance. You're right on. So here's the Photo P2 solution from Silicon Valley-- Buy and use a digital camera, store and use your photos on disk and call them up when you need them. All printed material, regardless of how much we reduce the effects of the inks, fixers, etc. is going to use more energy and create more losses to the environment that getting electronic. Most of today's advertising dollars are spent on electronic images through the use of television. So photographic imaging for personal use is not that great an extension from what we're quite used to seeing. The hobbyist aren't going to agree with this. My wife and I continually trade barbs, she being an archival calligrapher, who use very durable ink, paint and paper in her art. But do we need to use photographic paper for the hundreds of snapshots we take at parties, holidays, and on vacations? This is where the bulk of the photographic material is consumed and the waste process initiated. Also, buy a fax/modem for your computer to eliminate printing faxes, and encourage faxers to use more e-mail. Patrick Ferraro, Executive Director The Silicon Valley Pollution Prevention Center San Jose, CA From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 8 18:52:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA01999 for p2tech-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:52:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 16:52:21 -0700 From: Paul Saunders To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: cadmium disposal Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear P2 tech experts: I have subscribed to this listserv for several months and am continually impressed with the depth of knowledge available. This is my first request for assistance and it concerns some problems currently experienced by a company I am trying to assist with P2 options in the cadmium disposal area. The company is involved with photovoltaics and generates significant amounts of cadmium in their wastewater which they treat to produce a filter cake containing DE and other materials along with the cadmium. Is there a process for plating out or otherwise removing the cadmium from the filter cake to allow it to be concentrated and recycled? Also, a problem exists with cadmium dusting of what are called "non-burnables" such as sheet metal. Is there a technology available using X-ray fluorescence to detect minute amounts of cadmium left after possible steam cleaning of the sheet metal to allow an accurate determination of hazard status? The goal would be to avoid hazmat disposal of the entire waste which now runs $900/container. Any information available on these areas would be greatly appreciated. Paul Saunders psaunder@co.jefferson.co.us From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 00:08:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id AAA14552 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:08:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9701090505.AA0406@epahub2.rtptok.epa.gov> To: P2Tech From: Karen Sundheim Date: 8 Jan 97 18:57:48 Subject: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone have any source reduction information for manufacturers of surfboards and windsurfing equipment? Problem areas include polyurethane resins, which are poured over fiberglass fabric; styrofoam, which makes up the core of the surfboard; and apoxies. Any help would be appreciated. Karen Sundheim (GCI) US EPA Region 9 Library 75 Hawthorne Street San Francisco, California 94105 Phone: 415-744-1508 Fax: 415-744-1474 Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 08:20:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA25806 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:20:50 -0500 (EST) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:20:43 -0800 Message-Id: <199701091320.FAA14937@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: cadmium disposal To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The company should use root cause analysis (i.e., a cause and effect diagram) to determine why cadmium is used/lost from this particular workstep. What is the technology doing to allow cadmium loss? What are materials doing to allow cadmium loss? What are people doing to allow cadmium loss? What are methods doing to allow cadmium loss? What are measurements doing to allow cadmium loss? The cause and effect diagram is the most widely used problem solving tool in the world, according to a number of quality management surveys. It works wonderful. It might just help you PREVENT the problem instead of having to work on the waste after it is generated. There is a paper in POLLUTION PREVENTION REVIEW (Summer 1996) on using this very important structured analysis tool. Let me know if you wish to have a copy. Good luck! Bob Pojasek Cambridge Environmental Inc. 58 Charles St. Cambridge, MA 02141 (617) 225-0812 (617) 225-0813 (F) rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 08:22:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA25868 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:22:57 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:22:38 EST Subject: Re: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <2FEB364362@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net To: P2Tech From: Karen Sundheim Date: 8 Jan 97 18:57:48 Subject: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Karen asks: Does anyone have any source reduction information for manufacturers of surfboards and windsurfing equipment? Problem areas include polyurethane resins, which are poured over fiberglass fabric; styrofoam, which makes up the core of the surfboard; and apoxies. Any help would be appreciated. Karen Sundheim (GCI) US EPA Region 9 Library 75 Hawthorne Street San Francisco, California 94105 Phone: 415-744-1508 Fax: 415-744-1474 Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov ********************************************************** Hi Karen, happy 1997. Have you looked at the four article we have on the Internet, under Fiberglass Fabrication/ Marine Maintenance. You get to it from our home page, then Literature Handouts, then Fiberglass Fabrication. Luck. If you have any trouble getting there give me a call. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 08:56:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA27554 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:56:21 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:56:00 EST Subject: Re: Antifreeze Recycling Filters X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <30799D1E89@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Parsloe, Rolfe P." To: P2TECH Subject: Antifreeze Recycling Filters Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 10:43:00 PST Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Rolf asks: Does anyone have or know of anyone with lab reports (TCLP), fish toxicity, etc. concerning testing of the spent filters used in antifreeze recycling machines? Does anyone know of any studies that have been performed on the waste characteristics of antifreeze recycling filters? I have one such study entitled, "Characterization of Used Antifreeze Recycler Filters" done by Rey Verduzco (WA STATE Haz Waste Program King County ) in May 1996. The purpose of my inquiry concerns the fact that Washington State Law requires generators of such filters to test their filters or in lieu of testing dispose of the filters as dangerous waste. The study done by Verduzco indicates that filters will not designate as dangerous waste if the filters are backflushed/ drained, but the study concludes that more representative sampling is necessary to achieve statistical significance. I am looking for more antifreeze filter data to enable determining if testing is really necessary. Testing is expensive and I suspect that in WA most people just dispose of the filters as dangerous waste because it is cheaper than testing. If the overwhelming majority of these filters pass the TCLP and other tests I would like to see the WA law changed to avoid testing and enable disposal of these filters as solid waste. *********************************************************** We searche our RLIBY database and could not find the specific information you seek. However, in trying to assist you we read a number of the article on recycling antifreeze that we have and have selected three that may lead you to the information you need. If you will give me a FAX number I will send them along. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 13:44:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA18458 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:44:00 -0500 (EST) From: "David Williams" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:43:46 EST Subject: Vapor Degreaser Retrofit X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <3545743EDE@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vince, et. al: W.R. Grace published a Cleaning Handbook in 1990 that illustrates a simple modification for existing vapor degreasers to permit immersion cleaning in aqueous cleaners. It's a start, but I'm sure that there's something better to be found. To obtain a copy, call (617) 861-6600. David Williams NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6527 Fax: (919) 715-6794 e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 14:14:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA21060 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:14:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:14:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701091914.OAA21060@cedar.cic.net> From: Jodie Siegel To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: CO2 as clothes cleaner Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net To those of you interested in learning more about liquid CO2 for garment cleaning, here is some information about "Dry Wash". The commercial interests that are working on this are, I believe, Hughes Aircraft, Caled Chemical (Bill Bernard, Director, External Affairs - 1-800-OKCALED), and Los Alamos National Labs. I haven't seen the Popular Science piece, but it may be interesting and informative. Date: MON 11-NOV-96 22:10:27 GMT Original-TO: People Concerned About Chemical Dry Cleaning. Fm: Jack Weinberg, Greenpeace Re: A New Alternative to Chemical Dry Cleaning Please Post and Distribute An alternative to perc-based dry cleaning with the brand name "DryWash" (TM) has been selected by Popular Science Magazine for a "Best of What's New" award. More information can be obtained in the magazine's December issue. Information is also on the World Wide Web after November 13 by connecting to: http://www.popsci.com and clicking on the "Environmental Technology" page. DryWash is a technology that cleans garments using liquid carbon dioxide instead of chemical solvents. Its developers have stated that machine manufacturers in several parts of the world will have commercial DryWash machines available on the market by late 1997. Greenpeace has not yet had an opportunity to fully evaluate DryWash technology. On a preliminary basis, however, DryWash looks good. DryWash avoids the significant health and environmental problems caused by cleaning garments with perchloroethylene (perc) or with other chemical solvents. While Greenpeace has not yet done a systematic evaluation of possible other health, environmental, economic or performance issues, on a preliminary basis DryWash technology looks promising in all these areas. Greenpeace works to phase out the production and use of toxic chlorinated chemicals such as perchloroethylene: the solvent used by most dry cleaners. For several years, Greenpeace has been promoting Professional WetCleaning, an alternative, water-based garment cleaning technology. DryWash may soon emerge as another, complimentary alternative technology. Professional WetCleaning works well on most garments that have traditionally been dry cleaned. In some cases, however, the finishing costs associated with wet cleaning certain garments can be excessive. DryWash appears to perform best on those garments that are most difficult to clean with water. DryWash may be least effective on those garments easiest to clean with water. The combination of Professional WetCleaning and DryWash, however, should soon make chemical dry cleaning a relic of the past. Readers of Popular Science and internet viewers can vote on which of the "Best of What's New" selections will gets the magazine's "Readers Choice" award. Check it out. Other DryWash information on the Web can be found at http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9619/29/t_t/dry.cleaning/index.html From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 14:46:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA23592 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:46:19 -0500 (EST) From: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 14:47:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199701091947.OAA02412@buffalo1.localnet.com> X-Sender: toa_m2p2@localnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Disposable diaper recycling Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am looking for information on disposable diaper recycling technology by Diatec Recycling Technologies in Israel. If anyone has a contact, address, or information specific to Diatec, or general information on diaper recycling I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you! Jennifer L. Guida Junior Engineer Town of Amherst Engineering Department Phone: (716) 691-4331 Environmental Control Division Fax: (716) 691-4496 455 Tonawanda Creek Road email: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Amherst, NY 14228 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 15:23:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA26922 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32D570E4.129C@max.state.ia.us> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:27:48 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Clearinghouses Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you have any information on a software package to assist in the process that would be great. Cherri Bates IDNR-WRAP cbates@max.state.ia.us fax: 515-291-8895 phone: 515-281-8499 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 15:24:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA26978 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:24:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701092023.OAA55234@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: pannis@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:21:05 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Phillip J. Annis" Subject: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi, I'm looking for the telephone, mail and e-mail address for the Green Seal Organization, a nonprofit located in Washington D.C. that reviews and awards a "Green Seal" for environmentally friendly products. As always thanks for your help in advance. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 15:44:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA28440 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:44:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:38:05 -0500 From: RHONE RESCH To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There is an organization called Renew America which reviews and awards environmentally sensitive companies and products. They can be reached at 202-232-2252. Good Luck, Rhone ********************************************************************************************** Rhone Resch (202) 233-9793 Program Manager (202) 233-9569 (fax) US Environmental Protection Agency resch.rhone@epamail.epa.gov Mailcode 6202J 401 M Street, SW Washington, D.C. 20460 ********************************************************************************************** >>> "Phillip J. Annis" 01/09/97 03:21pm >>> Hi, I'm looking for the telephone, mail and e-mail address for the Green Seal Organization, a nonprofit located in Washington D.C. that reviews and awards a "Green Seal" for environmentally friendly products. As always thanks for your help in advance. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 15:51:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA28935 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:51:33 -0500 (EST) From: FITZNERW@deq.state.mi.us Message-Id: <199701092050.PAA12747@dnrserver1.dnr.state.mi.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 15:49:28 -0500 Subject: P2 in construction To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In response to the question on pollution prevention in construction... At Michigan's P2 roundtable last summer we had an architect, John Barrie, AIA, speak on P2 in construction. In fact, his presentation was titled, "Sustainable Design for Construction". John appears to be quite in the thick of this approach, has built a number of "green buildings" and has research it extensively. His company is John Barrie Associates Architects at 1050 Pinetree Drive, Ann Arbor 48103. His phone is 313-669-4811. Wendy Fitzner Phone: 517 373 8798 Environmental Quality Analyst FAX: 517 335 4729 Pollution Prevention Section email: fitznerw@deq.state.mi.us Environmental Assistance Division USPS: 116 W. Allegan Department of Environmental Quality P.O. Box 30457 State of Michigan Lansing, MI 48909 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 16:34:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA02089 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:34:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Sherry Davis" Organization: K-State Research and Extension To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:33:41 CST6CDT Subject: Re: Clearinghouses X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <2F5E69430A@oz.oznet.ksu.edu> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cherrie- WE are currently cataloging our internal resources with ProCite 3.1 software and are satisfied with it. If you would like a copy of our key words i can email them to you. sherry davis Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:27:48 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Clearinghouses Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you have any information on a software package to assist in the process that would be great. Cherri Bates IDNR-WRAP cbates@max.state.ia.us fax: 515-291-8895 phone: 515-281-8499 Sherry J. Davis Industrial P2 Specialist sdavis@oz.oznet.ksu.edu 133 Ward Hall Manhattan, KS 66506-2508 913-532-6501 Fax: 913-532-6952 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 16:38:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA02401 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:38:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:38:06 -0500 From: JEFF HALSEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net 1730 Rhode Island Avenue NW, Suite 1050 Washington, D.C. 20036-3101 202-331-7337, FAX: 202-331-7533 Dont' have e-mail address -------------------------------------------- Jeffery D. Halsey Broward County Department of Natural Resource Protection 218 SW 1st Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33301 954-519-1468 jhalsey@co.broward.fl.us ------------------------------------------- From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 17:02:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA04177 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:02:29 -0500 (EST) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 9-Jan-1997 17:09:16 -0500; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <3C53D53201501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes From: sobin@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Sobin, Rodney) Date: 09 Jan 97 17:09:16 EST In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net (Apologies to the rest of the list) Chris Shroeder, I got your e-mail regarding your interest in JLG Industries' use of powder coating. Unfortunately when I used the reply function, the message to you bounced back. Could you send me you e-mail address so we can send some info directly? Rodney Sobin sobin@ctc.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 17:34:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA06949 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:34:56 -0500 (EST) From: kl_peterson@ccmail.pnl.gov Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <01IE0GNVJQM28Y4WVE@pnl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You can find out about Green Seal and other ecolabeling programs on the internet at: http://www.interchg.ubc.ca/ecolabel/gen.html Green Seal apparently doesn't *have* an e-mail address (as of January, 1996). Keith Peterson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply Author: JHALSEY@CO.BROWARD.FL.US at -SMTPlink Date: 1/9/97 1:38 PM 1730 Rhode Island Avenue NW, Suite 1050 Washington, D.C. 20036-3101 202-331-7337, FAX: 202-331-7533 Dont' have e-mail address -------------------------------------------- Jeffery D. Halsey Broward County Department of Natural Resource Protection 218 SW 1st Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33301 954-519-1468 jhalsey@co.broward.fl.us ------------------------------------------- From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 18:04:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA08938 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:04:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 17:03:16 -0600 From: KENNY D STEWARD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Clearinghouses -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_93C07965.492845AB" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_93C07965.492845AB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Cherrie, It would be well worth your time to visit the USDOE's clearinghouse at http://epic.er.doe.gov This is a pollution prevention information clearinghouse funded by DOE to share information throughout the DOE complex and is available to the public. Susan Bolton is responsible for the site. You may reach her at the URL above! Thanks and Good Luck! Kenny Steward Pollution Prevention Pantex Plant >>> Cherrie Bates 01/09/97 04:27pm >>> I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you have any information on a software package to assist in the process that would be great. Cherri Bates IDNR-WRAP cbates@max.state.ia.us fax: 515-291-8895 phone: 515-281-8499 --=_93C07965.492845AB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from cedar.cic.net by interlock.pantex.com with SMTP id AA17736 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:05:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA26922 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:23:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <32D570E4.129C@max.state.ia.us> Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) Sender: owner-p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:27:48 -0600 From: Cherrie Bates To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com, cbates%max.state.ia.us@internet.pantex.com Subject: Clearinghouses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you have any information on a software package to assist in the process that would be great. Cherri Bates IDNR-WRAP cbates@max.state.ia.us fax: 515-291-8895 phone: 515-281-8499 --=_93C07965.492845AB-- From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 18:19:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA09634 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <32D57CF8.78BD@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:19:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I, too, am very interested in the Green Seal Organization that reviews and awards a "Green Seal" to environmentally friendly products. This "Renew America" organization does not do this for products. They only give awards to programs, not the hardware used to prevent pollution. I just got off the phone with them. Anyone else know about awards for products? Thanks Gerard Forgnone, Owner Plastic Oil Products -- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 > RHONE RESCH wrote: > > There is an organization called Renew America which reviews and awards > environmentally sensitive companies and products. They can be reached at > 202-232-2252. Good Luck, > > Rhone > > ********************************************************************************************** > Rhone Resch (202) 233-9793 > Program Manager (202) 233-9569 (fax) > US Environmental Protection Agency resch.rhone@epamail.epa.gov > Mailcode 6202J > 401 M Street, SW > Washington, D.C. 20460 > ********************************************************************************************** > > >>> "Phillip J. Annis" 01/09/97 03:21pm >>> > Hi, > > I'm looking for the telephone, mail and e-mail address for the Green Seal > Organization, a nonprofit located in Washington D.C. that reviews and awards > a "Green Seal" for environmentally friendly products. > > As always thanks for your help in advance. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 9 19:45:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id TAA13330 for p2tech-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:45:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 16:42:42 -0800 From: NANCY HELM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Washington Dept. of Ecology did some work (with an EPA grant) on P2 opportunities for the fiberglass reinforced plastics industry. They created a publication called "A Guide for Fiberglass Operations". Check with the project manager, Miles Kuntz on how to get this publication and any other information they might have on the subject. His email is: mkun461@ecy.wa.gov Nancy Helm EPA Region 10 Seattle, WA helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov >>> Karen Sundheim 01/08/97 06:57pm >>> Does anyone have any source reduction information for manufacturers of surfboards and windsurfing equipment? Problem areas include polyurethane resins, which are poured over fiberglass fabric; styrofoam, which makes up the core of the surfboard; and apoxies. Any help would be appreciated. Karen Sundheim (GCI) US EPA Region 9 Library 75 Hawthorne Street San Francisco, California 94105 Phone: 415-744-1508 Fax: 415-744-1474 Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 01:21:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id BAA25603 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:21:24 -0500 (EST) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <32D5DFC5.5A7B@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 22:20:53 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply References: <01IE0GNVJQM28Y4WVE@pnl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net kl_peterson@ccmail.pnl.gov wrote: > > You can find out about Green Seal and other ecolabeling programs on > the internet at: > > http://www.interchg.ubc.ca/ecolabel/gen.html > > Green Seal apparently doesn't *have* an e-mail address (as of January, > 1996). > > Keith Peterson I visited the site mentioned above, and these were the rules put forth: "Membership in the GEN is open to all national or multinational ecolabelling licensing organisations that actively pursue GEN objectives. Ecolabelling organizations shall meet the following criteria: based solely on voluntary participation for potential licensees; run by not-for-profit organisations without commercial interests; exhibit independence from undue commercial interests; the source of funding shall not create a conflict of interest; seek advice from, and consult with, stakeholder interests; legally protected logo; determination of criteria based on an assessment of the overall life of a product category; open access to potential licensees from all countries; criteria levels established to encourage the production and use of products and services that are significantly less damaging to the environment than other products; and periodic review, and if necessary, update of both environmental criteria and categories, taking into account technological and market place development." The second criteria kind of blows me out of the water. I have a commercial product that is sold for profit. Anyone else have any ideas about awards or green-label programs for products? Gerard -- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 01:43:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id BAA26230 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:43:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970110064607.006d4394@popmail.ucsd.edu> X-Sender: masiegel@popmail.ucsd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 22:46:07 -0800 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Marc H. Siegel" Subject: Re: Disposable diaper recycling Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 02:47 PM 1/9/97 -0500, you wrote: > >I am looking for information on disposable diaper recycling technology by >Diatec Recycling Technologies in Israel. If anyone has a contact, address, >or information specific to Diatec, or general information on diaper >recycling I would greatly appreciate it. >Thank you! > >Jennifer L. Guida >Junior Engineer >Town of Amherst Engineering Department Phone: (716) 691-4331 >Environmental Control Division Fax: (716) 691-4496 >455 Tonawanda Creek Road email: toa_m2p2@localnet.com >Amherst, NY 14228 > In the January 9, 1997 issue of the Jerusalem Report was the following short piece: "DEPOOPER: Diatec Recycling Technologies Inc., based in Ramat Hasharon, has announced development of the "Diapactor", a machine to recycle disposable diapers by removing the waste and leaving clean pulp for the production of new diapers. The device, designed for hospitals and public institutions, is due on the market next year." You might try calling the Economic Affairs desk at the Israeli Embassy and ask them for contact information. Their number is: 202-364-5692 Amazing what one can learn from P2Tech! Marc =================================================================== Dr. Marc H. Siegel MENA-PeaceNet Project Coordinator University of California, San Diego 12397 Picrus Street San Diego, CA 92129-4113 Phone: 619-484-9855 Fax: 619-484-9856 E-mail: Marc_Siegel@ucsd.edu MENA-PeaceNet Middle East/North Africa Information Exchange Network Sponsored by: US Department of Commerce Technology Administration in conjuction with the Taba Initiative (Egypt, Israel, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority) =================================================================== From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 08:09:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA03497 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:09:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:09:56 -0500 From: JEFF HALSEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Greenstar Address Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net 1730 Rhode Island Avenue NW, Suite 1050 Washington, D.C. 20036-3101 202-331-7337, FAX: 202-331-7533 Dont' have e-mail address -------------------------------------------- Jeffery D. Halsey Broward County Department of Natural Resource Protection 218 SW 1st Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33301 954-519-1468 jhalsey@co.broward.fl.us ------------------------------------------- From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 08:42:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA04925 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:42:12 -0500 (EST) From: jerry_murphy@ccmail.rustei.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:28:47 -0500 (est) Subject: Incinerator Ash To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <9700108529.AA852914544@ccmail.rustei.com> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anybody have any experience with alternative uses of ash from municipal solid waste (MSW) incinerators? We would like to be able to site examples of ways to save money by recycling the ash instead of landfilling. Jerry Murphy Rust Environment & Infrastructure Charleston, South Carolina From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 08:48:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA05233 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:48:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 05:48:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199701101348.FAA22894@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> From: p2ad@ix.netcom.com (Jancie Hatcher) Subject: Re: Clearinghouses To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You wrote: > >I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance >Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of >information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some >of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did >you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you >have any information on a software package to assist in the process that >would be great. > >Cherri Bates >IDNR-WRAP >cbates@max.state.ia.us >fax: 515-291-8895 >phone: 515-281-8499 > Dear Cherri: We in Georgia are also using Procite 3.1 for Windows. It's a package set up specifically for libraries, which makes it more suited to what you are doing than a regular database program. We have been very pleased with it. The vendor information for this software is Research Information Systems, in Carlsbad, CA, (619) 438-5526. E-mail is risinfo@ris.risinc.com and their Web page is http://www.risinc.com/ Our library is divided into about 25 different subject areas, and then we numbered documents consecutively as they came into the library within each subject area. At this point (we are up to about 3000 articles and documents), the only thing I would really have done differently is to divide up the pollution prevention category into some type of subheadings. Our areas are mostly different industrial sectors, but that still leaves a lot of general material to go to the pollution prevention section. Please feel free to call me or e-mail me if you would like to talk further. Sincerely, Jancie Hatcher Information Manager GA Pollution Prevention Asst. Div. (404) 651-5120 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 09:01:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA05945 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:01:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32D668D3.218D@max.state.ia.us> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:05:39 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Seeking P2 Program Information Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The Iowa Waste Reduction Assistance Program of the Iowa Department of Natural Resources is evaluating it's on-site technical assistance program and requests the following information from other pollution prevention programs: # of staff (administrative vs. technical; part- and full-time, professional/retired/graduate students; engineers/scientists/other education) targeted audience (small, medium, large business and industry - define size; public and/or private sector) # of on-site assessments conducted per year average length of on-site assessment deliverables provided to client (report, brief summary, workshop, etc.) follow-up provided (workshop, additional/focused technical assistance) performance measures (client evaluation, follow-up visit) Do you provide case studies/summaries? If so, how often (quarterly, annually)? Identify your annual budget and funding source (state funds, grant, etc.). Thank you in advance for your responses. Cherri Bates cbates@max.state.ia.us 515-281-8499 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 09:15:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA06801 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:15:25 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:14:57 EST Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <3BE90935@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes From: sobin@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Sobin, Rodney) Date: 09 Jan 97 17:09:16 EST Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net My replies to P2Tech have also been bouncing back as undelivered. Would the list server manager please make the correction and tell us the problem is not at our end? Rudy Moehrbach ***************************************************** (Apologies to the rest of the list) Chris Shroeder, I got your e-mail regarding your interest in JLG Industries' use of powder coating. Unfortunately when I used the reply function, the message to you bounced back. Could you send me you e-mail address so we can send some info directly? Rodney Sobin sobin@ctc.com Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 09:38:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA08340 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:38:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970110143911.0067dfbc@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:39:11 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ester Burke Subject: Re: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello. The Great Lakes Pollution Prvention Roundtable manintains the Techinfo database, a national pollution prevention database. At the moment, contributions are coming from Regions 1&2, Regions 3&4 and Region 5 (we are talking with other regions about being included). We are all using the Inmagic software, with the exception of WRRC, and they are talking about changing to Inmagic. The Windows version of Inmagic is very user friendly, and easy to manipulate. They also have a software package with Web capabilities. We have 25 field that we use, including Author, Title, Subtitle, Publisher, Place, Date, Document Type, Subject, Abstract, Location, and others (Anyone interested in the exact fields, feel free to contact me). If you have any questions about our databases or software, please let me know. Ester Burke Illinois Waste Management and Research Center (217) 244-8989 eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu At 02:27 PM 1/9/97 -0800, you wrote: >I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance >Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of >information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some >of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did >you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you >have any information on a software package to assist in the process that >would be great. > >Cherri Bates >IDNR-WRAP >cbates@max.state.ia.us >fax: 515-291-8895 >phone: 515-281-8499 > > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 09:46:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA08817 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:46:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:46:29 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701101446.PAA05961@glen.ib.be> X-Sender: mlee8946@mail.ib.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: marc.leemans@infoboard.be (Marc Leemans) Subject: Re: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Small question to Procite 3.1 users. Can it also run under UNIX ? Does anybody have information on the company who made PROCITE ? Best regards, Marc Leemans TWICA-OVAM e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be --------------------------------------------------------------------- Check these Waste World Wide Web resources : *Public Waste Agency of Flanders home : ==> http://www.ovam.be *Waste Library (20.000 references to literature !) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read/choice (Dutch interface) ==>http://www.ovam.be/cgi-bin/ovam-read-eng/English/choice *Environmental Index to the WWW (The Green Web-Resources List) ==> http://www.ovam.be/internetrefs/english.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 09:46:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA08828 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:46:53 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:46:26 EST Subject: Re: Clearinghouses X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:27:48 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Clearinghouses Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cherri asks: I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you have any information on a software package to assist in the process that would be great. Cherri Bates IDNR-WRAP cbates@max.state.ia.us fax: 515-291-8895 phone: 515-281-8499 *********************************************************** The Waste Reduction Resource Center, located in Raleigh, NC, has an excellent database on pollution prevention (P2) information. We used the SIC codes as categories. We use ProCite software to handle the information. From our homepage below, you can use the search engine to locate whatever word you choose. Our database is called RLIBY. Thru our homepage you can download a copy of the RLIBY database. You can also order,thru our homepage and at no cost, a "read only" copy of the ProCite software. If you are interested in the full version of ProCite, you can obtain a 50% discount by telling them we sent you the Read-Only version (we bought a distribution license) ProCite was recently purchased by another firm and I do not have a contact for you. Do let me know if you are interested and I will dig it up for you.. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 09:47:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA08883 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:47:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970110144753.0068e1fc@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:47:53 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ester Burke Subject: Re: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I tried to send this via the "reply" function, and it bounced. So, I'm resending. >Hello. The Great Lakes Pollution Prvention Roundtable manintains the Techinfo database, a national pollution prevention database. At the moment, contributions are coming from Regions 1&2, Regions 3&4 and Region 5 (we are talking with other regions about being included). We are all using the Inmagic software, with the exception of WRRC, and they are talking about changing to Inmagic. The Windows version of Inmagic is very user friendly, and easy to manipulate. They also have a software package with Web capabilities. We have 25 field that we use, including Author, Title, Subtitle, Publisher, Place, Date, Document Type, Subject, Abstract, Location, and others (Anyone interested in the exact fields, feel free to contact me). > >If you have any questions about our databases or software, please let me know. > >Ester Burke >Illinois Waste Management and Research Center >(217) 244-8989 >eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu > >At 02:27 PM 1/9/97 -0800, you wrote: >>I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance >>Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of >>information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some >>of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did >>you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you >>have any information on a software package to assist in the process that >>would be great. >> >>Cherri Bates >>IDNR-WRAP >>cbates@max.state.ia.us >>fax: 515-291-8895 >>phone: 515-281-8499 >> >> > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 09:52:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA09306 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:52:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 9:40:11 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Mario E. Salazar" Subject: Re: RE: NO SUBJECT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Ref. comments related to paper reduction and using digital cameras. Patrick, Try telling some of the old timers that they don't need hard copy. I am 52 years old and have been pro-technology all my life. I will tinker with anything. Some of my colleagues, even the very young, are affraid of using a modem and have to have extensive paper files. They get very upset with me when I don't follow an email attachment with a fax of the attachment! Even when the document is short. All we can do is keep trying. As for digital cameras, unfortunately the technology is not there yet (get with it silicon valley!). I had asked my wife for a digital camera for Xmas (not professional, what is available under $1,000). She did some research and found out from a graphics artist that one can still get better graphics by scanning a good photo, instead of using even the most expensive of the cameras in the price range. Well, at least if one digitizes by scanning, fewer copies fo the photo are made (?). Sorry couldn't avoid commenting. Mario Salazar, Environmental Engineer Environmental Pollution Prevention Project USAID, Global Environment USAID/G/ENV SA-18, room 508G Washington, DC 20523-1812 Phone 703 875-4669, fax 875-4639 email: msalazar@usaid.gov, salazar.mario@epamail.epa.gov ------------- Original Text From: SVP2CPATF@aol.com, on 1/8/97 5:28 PM: To: Eric: Thanks for keeping the P2 goal in prominance. You're right on. So here's the Photo P2 solution from Silicon Valley-- Buy and use a digital camera, store and use your photos on disk and call them up when you need them. All printed material, regardless of how much we reduce the effects of the inks, fixers, etc. is going to use more energy and create more losses to the environment that getting electronic. Most of today's advertising dollars are spent on electronic images through the use of television. So photographic imaging for personal use is not that great an extension from what we're quite used to seeing. The hobbyist aren't going to agree with this. My wife and I continually trade barbs, she being an archival calligrapher, who use very durable ink, paint and paper in her art. But do we need to use photographic paper for the hundreds of snapshots we take at parties, holidays, and on vacations? This is where the bulk of the photographic material is consumed and the waste process initiated. Also, buy a fax/modem for your computer to eliminate printing faxes, and encourage faxers to use more e-mail. Patrick Ferraro, Executive Director The Silicon Valley Pollution Prevention Center San Jose, CA From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 10:06:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA10330 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:06:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:06:17 -0500 From: KAY GERVASI To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Seeking P2 Program Information -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Do you have a copy of "Preventing Pollution in our Cities and Counties, A Compendium of Case Studies"? It was published in Nov 95 by the National Association of Counties (NACo) and is excellent. To obtain a copy, call NACo at (202) 393-6226. >>> Cherrie Bates 01/10/97 11:05am >>> The Iowa Waste Reduction Assistance Program of the Iowa Department of Natural Resources is evaluating it's on-site technical assistance program and requests the following information from other pollution prevention programs: # of staff (administrative vs. technical; part- and full-time, professional/retired/graduate students; engineers/scientists/other education) targeted audience (small, medium, large business and industry - define size; public and/or private sector) # of on-site assessments conducted per year average length of on-site assessment deliverables provided to client (report, brief summary, workshop, etc.) follow-up provided (workshop, additional/focused technical assistance) performance measures (client evaluation, follow-up visit) Do you provide case studies/summaries? If so, how often (quarterly, annually)? Identify your annual budget and funding source (state funds, grant, etc.). Thank you in advance for your responses. Cherri Bates cbates@max.state.ia.us 515-281-8499 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 10:20:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA11363 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:20:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Douglas W. Kievit-Kylar" Organization: VT Agency of Natural Resources To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:20:13 EST Subject: Re: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <7AA03BD03CC@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:22:38 EST Subject: Re: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net To: P2Tech From: Karen Sundheim Date: 8 Jan 97 18:57:48 Subject: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Karen asks: Does anyone have any source reduction information for manufacturers of surfboards and windsurfing equipment? Problem areas include polyurethane resins, which are poured over fiberglass fabric; styrofoam, which makes up the core of the surfboard; and apoxies. Any help would be appreciated. Karen Sundheim (GCI) US EPA Region 9 Library 75 Hawthorne Street San Francisco, California 94105 Phone: 415-744-1508 Fax: 415-744-1474 Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov ********************************************************** Karen, One alternative you may want to look into involves the use of peimpregnated fiberglass. With prepregs fabrics the woven reinforcement comes preimpregnated with partially cured resins. We funded a grant to the Mad River Canoe Company to explore the viability of prepregs and have a case study written up on the findings. Let me know if this would be of interest to you. Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner Vermont Agency of Natural Resources Environmental Assistance Division 103 South Main Street Waterbury VT 05671-0411 phone: (802) 241-3628 FAX: (802) 241-3273 e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us "Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." -- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 10:29:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA12034 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:29:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:29:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701101529.KAA20137@cinna.ultra.net> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi everyone, This topic has been fielded before on P2tech. Try the archives for extensive responses at that time. At the Institute, our library focuses on technology, chemicals, management tools and policy. We have a new cataloguing scheme created but our librarian, John Bearley, who is at bearleyj@turi.org. It is helpful if you encourage researchers to think in terms of industry sector, technological process or chemical involved, and to organize your material similarly. However, no organization scheme is perfect and cross-referencing and best fits are necessary. Good luck! Send a message to John or me if you have questions. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org Check out the NBEN interactive site at http://www.nben.org and... P2Gems, a web search tool at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 10:33:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA12354 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:33:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:32:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199701101532.JAA20822@CP.Duluth.MN.US> X-Sender: p2team@cp.duluth.mn.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Tim Tuominen Subject: Re: Incinerator Ash Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 08:28 AM 1/10/97 -0500, you wrote: >Does anybody have any experience with alternative uses of ash from >municipal solid waste (MSW) incinerators? We would like to be able to >site examples of ways to save money by recycling the ash instead of >landfilling. > > >Jerry Murphy >Rust Environment & Infrastructure >Charleston, South Carolina > Get A hold of: Steve Stark Metropolitan Council Environmental Services 2400 Childs Road St. Paul, MN 55106-6724 MCES gen phone: (612) 772-7141 Thier ash is from a sludge incinerator but you could try them. Tim Tuominen WLSSD 2626 Courtland Street Duluth, MN 55806 Phone: 218.722.3336 x324 Fax: 218.727.7471 Email: p2team@cp.duluth.mn.us From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 10:46:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA13757 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:46:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:46:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701101546.KAA13757@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Laura L. Barnes" Subject: Re: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cherri Bates wrote: >>How did you categorize things? Publications and reports that we produce in-house are arranged by publication number. Publications that we distribute from other agencies are arranged into about 30 subject categories (chemicals, household hazardous waste, pollution prevention, industry-specific pollution prevention, etc.). Our library collection is arranged by Dewey Decimal call number. Govermnet reports are arranged by report number. >>Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you >>have any information on a software package to assist in the process that >>would be great. Our clearinghouse (and library) collections are all searchable over our local area network. We use INMAGIC's Window's database product db/textworks to create and maintain these databases. Db/textworks is very well suited to tasks like this. One of it's biggest advantages, from my point of view, is that it is fully configurable. The user designs the structure of the database, the search screens, the editing screens, and the output formats. The report and search screen designers are fairly easy to use. INMAGIC also sells a library guide that comes with predefined structures, report formats, search screens, and menu screens that you can tweak to suit your needs. In addition, you can have multiple occurrences of the same field (ie. author) and can enter an unlimited amount of text in each field. We currently maintain our library, clearinghouse, article citation, and slide databases using db/textworks. I've also used their DOS product (INMAGIC Plus) to compile survey results for a couple of different information projects that I've worked on. Db/textworks can import both ascii delimited and INMAGIC tagged-format files and will export records in these formats as well. Db/textworks also supports images, which means that you can attach image files to database records. They also have a webserver product that runs on a Windows NT server and allows users to mount databases on their web pages and keep db/textworks' search functionality. INMAGIC's web site address is http://www.inmagic.com/. If you go to their "Try It" section, you'll be able to get an idea of what the search interface looks like. They've mounted several test databases to demonstrate their web server product. If you need more information or have any questions, feel free to contact me. My e-mail address and phone number both appear below. Laura Barnes -- Laura L. Barnes Librarian/Clearinghouse Specialist Illinois Waste Management and Research Center (formerly Illinois Hazardous Waste Research and Information Center) One East Hazelwood Drive Champaign, IL 61820 Phone: (217) 333-8957 Fax: (217) 333-8944 E-mail: lbarnes@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu Check out our web page: http://www.hazard.uiuc.edu/wmrc/library/hwricpub.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 11:16:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA16206 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:16:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:16:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701101616.LAA16206@cedar.cic.net> From: (Lin Krause ) To: Subject: Vapor degreaser retrofits (SMTP Id#: 41) - Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net EPA's Guide to Cleaner Technologies, Alternative to Chlorinated Solvents for Cleaning and Degreasing (EPA/625/R-93/016, February 1994) describes add-on controls for vapor degreasing, and also describes improved (more P2) technologies. From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 11:18:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA16337 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:18:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:18:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701101618.LAA16337@cedar.cic.net> From: Jodie Siegel To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: CO2 as clothes cleaner Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net To those of you interested in learning more about liquid CO2 for garment cleaning, here is some information about "Dry Wash". The commercial interests that are working on this are, I believe, Hughes Aircraft, Caled Chemical (Bill Bernard, Director, External Affairs - 1-800-OKCALED), and Los Alamos National Labs. I haven't seen the Popular Science piece, but it may be interesting and informative. Date: MON 11-NOV-96 22:10:27 GMT Original-TO: People Concerned About Chemical Dry Cleaning. Fm: Jack Weinberg, Greenpeace Re: A New Alternative to Chemical Dry Cleaning Please Post and Distribute An alternative to perc-based dry cleaning with the brand name "DryWash" (TM) has been selected by Popular Science Magazine for a "Best of What's New" award. More information can be obtained in the magazine's December issue. Information is also on the World Wide Web after November 13 by connecting to: http://www.popsci.com and clicking on the "Environmental Technology" page. From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 11:48:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA18837 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:48:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970110164856.0069a94c@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: sbroda@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:48:56 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Sandy Broda Subject: Re: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The company that makes Procite is Research Information Systems. The URL for their website is http://www.risinc.com/procite/ and their contact information is: US Office: Camino Corporate Center, 2355 Camino Vida Roble, Carlsbad CA 92009 Phone: (800) 722- 1227 or (619) 438-5526 Fax: (619) 438-5573 risinfo@ris.risinc.com (for Product Information) tech@ris.risinc.com (for Technical Support) UK Office: Brunel Science Park, Building 1, Brunel University, Uxbridge, UB83PQ Phone: +44-1895-813544 Fax: +44-1895-237313 uksales@ris.risinc.com (for Product Information in Europe) Sandy Broda Information Specialist Illinois Waste Management and Research Center Champaign, IL At 03:46 PM 1/10/97 +0100, you wrote: >Small question to Procite 3.1 users. Can it also run under UNIX ? Does >anybody have information on the company who made PROCITE ? > > >Best regards, > >Marc Leemans >TWICA-OVAM >e-mail : marc.leemans@infoboard.be From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 12:07:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA20596 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:07:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9701101732.AA3244@SMTPGW.edf.org> To: p2tech From: Lois Epstein Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:10:08 -0500 Subject: Incinerator Ash Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Once again, a waste management, rather than a pollution prevention, question appears on this list-serve. Nevertheless, to answer the question, the Environmental Defense Fund has major concerns about alternative uses of ash from MSW incinerators given its heavy metal content. If anyone would like some technical papers on this topic, contact Senior Scientist Richard Denison of EDF at richard@edf.org. From: jerry_murphy @ ccmail.rustei.com @ net on 01/10/97 08:28 AM EST To: p2tech @ great-lakes.net @ net cc: Subject: Incinerator Ash Does anybody have any experience with alternative uses of ash from municipal solid waste (MSW) incinerators? We would like to be able to site examples of ways to save money by recycling the ash instead of landfilling. Jerry Murphy Rust Environment & Infrastructure Charleston, South Carolina Lois N. Epstein, P.E. Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) lne@edf.org From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 13:07:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA25474 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:07:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701101806.MAA37530@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: pannis@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:03:22 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Phillip J. Annis" Subject: Re: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Doug, Most Excellent idea. In my previous life we repaired honeycomb fiberglass panels on aircraft wings with prepreg materials. You simply cut the material to size, apply heat and vacuum with an appropriate sized rubber heater blanket and vaccum source. Might have to be done insections though. At 10:20 AM 1/10/97 EST, you wrote: >From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:22:38 EST >Subject: Re: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing >Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > >To: P2Tech >From: Karen Sundheim >Date: 8 Jan 97 18:57:48 >Subject: P2 and Surfboard Manufacturing >Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Karen asks: >Does anyone have any source reduction information for manufacturers of >surfboards and windsurfing equipment? Problem areas include polyurethane >resins, which are poured over fiberglass fabric; styrofoam, which makes up the >core of the surfboard; and apoxies. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Karen Sundheim (GCI) >US EPA Region 9 Library >75 Hawthorne Street >San Francisco, California 94105 > >Phone: 415-744-1508 >Fax: 415-744-1474 >Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov >********************************************************** > >Karen, > >One alternative you may want to look into involves the use of >peimpregnated fiberglass. With prepregs fabrics the woven >reinforcement comes preimpregnated with partially cured resins. We >funded a grant to the Mad River Canoe Company to explore the >viability of prepregs and have a case study written up on the >findings. Let me know if this would be of interest to you. > > > >Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner >Vermont Agency of Natural Resources >Environmental Assistance Division >103 South Main Street >Waterbury VT 05671-0411 >phone: (802) 241-3628 >FAX: (802) 241-3273 >e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us >"Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." >-- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 14:34:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA02575 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:34:43 -0500 (EST) From: kl_peterson@ccmail.pnl.gov Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re[2]: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply To: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com, p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <01IE1OKS5CXE8Y4WVE@pnl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I may have missed your point, but those "rules" are for joining GEN, not for getting an eco label on your commercially available product. Further down in that site (if you live in USA, then under USA - Green Seal, there are listed the criteria a product must meet to earn a Green Seal. For example, I'm looking at Green Seal Standard GS-11, Environmental Standard for Paints, and it gives all the performance and environmental specifications a paint must meet to earn the GS. URL is http://www.interchg.ubc.ca/ecolabel/usstd11.html I didn't see any specs listed on the site for synthetic oils (if that is your business), but I'm sure a call to GS could get you started. Keith I visited the site mentioned above, and these were the rules put forth: "Membership in the GEN is open to all national or multinational ecolabelling licensing organisations that actively pursue GEN objectives. Ecolabelling organizations shall meet the following criteria: based solely on voluntary participation for potential licensees; run by not-for-profit organisations without commercial interests; exhibit independence from undue commercial interests; the source of funding shall not create a conflict of interest; seek advice from, and consult with, stakeholder interests; legally protected logo; determination of criteria based on an assessment of the overall life of a product category; open access to potential licensees from all countries; criteria levels established to encourage the production and use of products and services that are significantly less damaging to the environment than other products; and periodic review, and if necessary, update of both environmental criteria and categories, taking into account technological and market place development." The second criteria kind of blows me out of the water. I have a commercial product that is sold for profit. Anyone else have any ideas about awards or green-label programs for products? Gerard -- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 14:36:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA02741 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:36:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:36:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701101936.OAA19423@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: RE: Vapor degreaser retrofits Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it. Vince At 11:17 AM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >Although the referred document at >http://es.inel.gov/p2pubs/ppc/226170.html does not talk about retrofit >equipment, it does describe the types of technologies that exist that >can use trichloroethylene with extremely low emissions over time. > >Let me know if you have questions. > >>---------- >>From: Vince Perelli[SMTP:perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 1997 7:26 AM >>To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >>Subject: Vapor degreaser retrofits >> >>P2Techers, >> >>I just received a second - hand request regarding vendors of vapor >>degreasing retrofits (i.e., freeboard improvements, chillers, etc...) as >>well as new "ultratight" equipment. The company is apparently using an >>in-line vapor degreasing system with Trichloroethylene. >> >>Yes... I already voiced my concern to the second hand contact about the >>company just jumping into this choice as the preferred solution. Doesn't >>seem very strategic, and I much prefer a more open-minded, P2 approach. >>None-the-less, the request still stood. Any thoughts on this? I know that >>this is a fairly generic request. >> >>Thanks a bunch, >> >>Vince Perelli >>Vincent R. Perelli >>New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services >>Pollution Prevention Program >>6 Hazen Drive >>Concord, NH 03301-6509 >>phone: 603 271-2902 >>fax: 603 271-2456 >>perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com >> >> > > Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 14:38:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA02913 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:38:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:38:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701101938.OAA19625@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: Re: Vapor Degreaser Retrofit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net David, As usual, you are a wealth of knowledge. I really appreciate your help. Vince At 01:43 PM 1/9/97 EST, you wrote: >Vince, et. al: >W.R. Grace published a Cleaning Handbook in 1990 that >illustrates a simple modification for existing vapor degreasers to >permit immersion cleaning in aqueous cleaners. It's a start, but >I'm sure that there's something better to be found. > >To obtain a copy, call (617) 861-6600. > >David Williams >NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance >P.O. Box 29569 >Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 >Tel: (919) 715-6527 >Fax: (919) 715-6794 >e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us >Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ > > Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 14:48:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA03639 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:48:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9701102226.AA13679@camp.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:51:55 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: simek@camp.rutgers.edu (Mike Simek) Subject: water conservation Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Who should I contact for "Water Conservation Resources" information on federal level and in the state of New Jersey? thank you ,mike From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 15:23:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA05761 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:23:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:23:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701102023.PAA05761@cedar.cic.net> From: "Duane J. Mazur" <"mazurdjm@worldnet.att.net"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Cadmium Disposal (and Metals in wastewater in general) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is in response to a request from Paul Saunders in regard to cadmium disposal at a photovoltaics company. There are several recovery methods for metals dissolved in wastewater, which include ion exchange, electrolytic, and precipitation. Precipitation leads to the metal hydroxide which may in itself be a disposal problem. The metal salt can be recovered in concentrated form from either ion exchange or the electrolytic method, and the electrolytic method offers the possibility for recovery of the solid metal in pure form, available for refining. If solid metal particulates (not a salt) are in the wastewater, the above methods will not work, and some form of filtration may be necessary. The applicability of ion exchange or the electrolytic method is very dependent on the type of wastestream and the level of removal required. There are some new electrolytic cells out there which can more effectively compete with ion exchange to achieve low discharge levels. In some cases, a combination of an electrolytic cell with a small ion exchange unit greatly minimizes the cost for a particular process. My company does represent several of the electrolytic cell manufacturers, and I would be happy to provide information on the applicability of an electrolytic clean up method for a particular stream. Duane J. Mazur The Electrosynthesis Co., Inc. mazurdjm@worldnet.att.net From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 15:30:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA06169 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:30:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Douglas W. Kievit-Kylar" Organization: VT Agency of Natural Resources To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:29:24 EST Subject: "The Laundry Solution" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <7AF2B9E74F7@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net On the heals of the wonderful news about a possible alternative to perc-based dry cleaning comes a call for logical, scientific thinking about a product that claims to be a pollution prevention breakthrough in home laundry. "The Laundry Solution" claims to be Chemical-Free Washing. But is it really? Can anyone use what they know about chemistry, physics, and cleaning (espy. far-infrared electro magnetic waves) to tell me if this product is more fiction than fact -- or the other way around? The following was borrowed from the Internet: "The Laundry Solution" is a Nylene ball filled with "structured water". Utilizing 21st Century "Physics Phenomenon" Technology. The Laundry Solution contains a patented process of structured water that emits far-infarred elctro magnetic waves through the walls of the globe into your laundry water. This causes each water molecule cluster to disassociate, allowing much smaller individual water molecules to penetrate into the innermost part of the fabric similar to detergent action, but without any of the residue, chemicals and by-products of detergents. The positive (+) charged dirt leaves the fabric because it "hooks-up" with the now negatively (-) charged water. The dirt is forced out and carried away. Hence you actually see the results of cleaner clothes produced with no pollutants for the environment or your family. This is the latest in 21st century technology! In addition to the above you can discard fabric softeners and no longer need an extra rinse cycle, thus saving water, money and the environment at the same time! This is the latest breakthrough in products to help our environment. "The Laundry Solution" has already prevented billions of gallons of water from being polluted by laundry detergent, phosphates, nitrates and other dangerous chemical additives. What does anyone think about this one? Thanks! Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner Vermont Agency of Natural Resources Environmental Assistance Division 103 South Main Street Waterbury VT 05671-0411 phone: (802) 241-3628 FAX: (802) 241-3273 e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us "Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." -- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 15:44:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA07181 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:44:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970110204444.006cae74@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:44:44 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: ADM: Problems with postings Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net If you have tried to post anything lately, you may have gotten a "Returned Mail" message. Please note that unless the "FROM:" row says something about "p2tech..." or "great-lakes.net," your message has successfully reached the list and you do not need to resend it. You are receiving a returned message from another system. I am not sure why this is happening, but I have written to our systems administrator at GLIN about the problem. It is probably another change stemming from the systems upgrade and I will work on getting it fixed. I am sorry for the inconvenience. Lisa **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 15:56:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA08107 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:56:16 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:55:50 EST Subject: Etching metal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <6EA2D4124@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net We are looking for a safe substitute for picric acid for metal etching for use in metalurgical lab. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 16:03:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA08752 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:03:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970110210414.006b542c@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: sbroda@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:04:14 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Sandy Broda Subject: Re: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am a librarian using DB/TextWorks (Inmagic's Windows product) to design a series of pollution prevention databases. Although designed for libraries (and clearinghouses), this software is a powerful tool that can be used to organize any textual information for easy retrieval. Program designers can design the screens users will see or elect to go with screens especially designed for library use. Images can be incorporated into the database and data elements can be arranged in any useful configuration. Multiple copies of a form can be created and different ones can be selected for different purposes. (For example, you might have one form for people searching the database that lets them search something like "subject" - but the subject field may actually be searching fields containing index terms, main subject headings, the text of an abstract or a title. You could create a second form listing all these fields separately for the person adding the record to the database.) These forms can be preselected to appear when the user enters the database, but users can also select from available forms as needed. (Complete records versus basic citations would be a good example.) You can also link different databases together at a common field (a classic use would be a database of patrons and citations to the material in your collection). A menu option is provided that lets you automatically bring up a screen showing users the different options they have, then click on a title or icon to go directly to their choice. Users automatically return to this menu screen whenever they close a database. The search engine is strong. You can search by Boolean operators both within a category and between categories. (Several index terms and an author, for example.) Pick lists are available that show available index terms or phrases; these can be pasted directly into the search form. As I mentioned earlier, search forms can be designed so that users need to fill out only one section of the form to search several different fields simultaneously. A run-time version is also available. This option lets you distribute your database to people who do not own a copy of the software. The software allows your database to be used (but not edited) by the recipient. We are also planning to look at Oracle's ConText module to see what it has to offer. If you already have Oracle available to you (as we do), this may be worth a look. Feel free to contact me directly if you think I could help you in any way. Sandy Broda Illinois Waste Management and Research Center Champaign, IL sbroda@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu At 02:27 PM 1/9/97 -0800, you wrote: >I am with the IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance >Program. Our focus is pollution prevention. We have a wide variety of >information, but no systematic way to find anything. I was hoping some >of you would share the way you have set-up your clearinghouse. How did >you categorize things? Do you have a search engine set-up? etc. If you >have any information on a software package to assist in the process that >would be great. > >Cherri Bates >IDNR-WRAP >cbates@max.state.ia.us >fax: 515-291-8895 >phone: 515-281-8499 > > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 16:23:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA10393 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:23:59 -0500 (EST) From: goldbergt@woods.uml.edu Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:23:46 EST To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <009AE29B.1DC37CC0.53@woods.uml.edu> Subject: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Here in the Northeast there are ten pollution prevention clearinghouses All the clearinghouses use the Inmagic database. Each clearinghouse has devised it's own method for catalogueing information and I would be glad to discuss the different methods they have used (617-367-8558). We have, however, developed a standard data structure for inputting bibliographic entries (e.g., we all use the term TI for the title field and DT for date of publication). This makes it much easier to merge the databases. The most recent version of our regional database, p2INFO, contains over 11,000 documents. If we all used different software and structures the task of merging them would have been enormous. I think the question you have to answer is What databases would you like to access beyond the one you create and are you interested in having you information incluided in the national database (TECHINFO). Lisa Regenstein Northeast WAste Management Officials' Assoc. 129 Portland Street Boston, MA 02114 (617) 367-8558 ext. 304 newmoa@aol.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 16:27:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA10724 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:27:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32D4A835.55EC@erols.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 03:11:33 -0500 From: George Cushnie Organization: CAI Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: "The Laundry Solution" References: <7AF2B9E74F7@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Douglas W. Kievit-Kylar wrote: > > On the heals of the wonderful news about a possible alternative to > perc-based dry cleaning comes a call for logical, scientific thinking > about a product that claims to be a pollution prevention breakthrough > in home laundry. > > "The Laundry Solution" claims to be Chemical-Free Washing. But is it > really? Can anyone use what they know about chemistry, physics, and > cleaning (espy. far-infrared electro magnetic waves) to tell me if > this product is more fiction than fact -- or the other way around? The > following was borrowed from the Internet: > > "The Laundry Solution" is a Nylene ball filled with "structured > water". Utilizing 21st Century "Physics Phenomenon" Technology. The > Laundry Solution contains a patented process of structured water that > emits far-infarred elctro magnetic waves through the walls of the > globe into your laundry water. This causes each water molecule cluster > to disassociate, allowing much smaller individual water molecules to > penetrate into the innermost part of the fabric similar to detergent > action, but without any of the residue, chemicals and by-products of > detergents. The positive (+) charged dirt leaves the fabric because it > "hooks-up" with the now negatively (-) charged water. The dirt is > forced out and carried away. Hence you actually see the results of > cleaner clothes produced with no pollutants for the environment or > your family. This is the latest in 21st century technology! In > addition to the above you can discard fabric softeners and no longer > need an extra rinse cycle, thus saving water, money and the > environment at the same time! > > This is the latest breakthrough in products to help our environment. > "The Laundry Solution" has already prevented billions of gallons of > water from being polluted by laundry detergent, phosphates, nitrates > and other dangerous chemical additives. > > What does anyone think about this one? Thanks! > > Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner > Vermont Agency of Natural Resources > Environmental Assistance Division > 103 South Main Street > Waterbury VT 05671-0411 > phone: (802) 241-3628 > FAX: (802) 241-3273 > e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us > "Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." > -- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- I wonder if they can make a shampoo version? geoc From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 17:39:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA16000 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:39:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:39:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701102239.RAA17596@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: oops Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net While there are worse crimes out there (like not saying thank you when people help you out!), I would hate to trample the rules of "Netiquette" by posting my thank you notes to the full group. I did this inadvertently and did not mean to clutter everytone's e-mail boxes. Sorry. It's the thought that counts, right?? Have a nice day :-) Vince Perelli Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 10 20:21:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id UAA23219 for p2tech-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:21:17 -0500 (EST) From: MKnightECO@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:18:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970110200049_712829509@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: vmcmahan@amrivers.org, Thearin.Wendel%EM@em.doe.gov, wlockeretz@infonet.tufts.edu, gws@mail.portup.com, srmdem@ix.netcom.com, dstauffer@vt.edu, drobinson@hiayh.org, Creeksconf@aol.com, frey@eos.ncsu.edu, EEBANEWS@aol.com, frog@nbs.gov, elfitzhugh@ucdavis.edu, wallman@erim.org, cathyb@iwla.org, mary@safnet.org, ejrc@cau.edu, edcivic@libertynet.org, dcaft@igc.apc.org, amrivers@igc.apc.org, susaneverett@designet.com, atlantictr@igc.apc.org, climateinst@igc.apc.org, defenders@igc.apc.org, efdc@igc.org, michael@edf.org, eli@igc.apc.org, Toicl@aol.com, ptedesco@lamar.colostate.edu, tws@wildlife.org, jbailey@great-lakes.net, cnpca@nps.gov, groundwater@ias.champlain.edu, p2tech@great-lakes.net, ecobalance@gaia.org, aesp-net@aesp.org, wwf@panda.org, grns.usa.forum@conf.igc.apc.org, gaia-l@listserv.aol.com, glu@igc.apc.org Subject: CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Environmental Alliance for Senior Involvement 1997 Annual Conference Senior Power for Sustainable Neighborhoods May 14-16, 1997 Alexandria, VA The Environmental Alliance for Senior Involvement (EASI) is a non-profit organization whose mission is involvement of senior citizens in addressing environmental concerns at the local, state and federal levels. In the four years of its existence, EASI has developed and replicated community service models to address public health and environmental issues such as radon exposure in the home, source water protection, energy conservation, community liaison at hazardous waste sites, and global climate change. EASI's Senior Environment Corps has chapters in 10 states. EASI works with senior, environmental and volunteer groups including: * American Association of Retired Persons * American Public Health Association * National Council on Aging * National Association of Physicians for the Environment * National Wildlife Federation * North American Coalition of Religion and Environment * Coastal America * Corporation for National Service * Izaak Walton League of America * Renew America * Retired Senior Volunteer Program Participating governmental organizations include: * US Department of Agriculture Forest Service * US Department of Agriculture Natural Resources Conservation Service * US Department of Health and Human Services, Office on Aging * US Environmental Protection Agency * US Department of the Interior Bureau of Land Management. EASI's 1997 annual conference, Senior Power for Sustainable Neighborhoods, combines leadership training, national recognition for senior volunteers and their exemplary environmental service programs, training in and opportunities for fund-raising, and education on environmental and public health issues. There are 5 plenary sessions featuring nationally-known public opinion leaders. There are 4 distinct tracks of 5 workshops each: 1. Leadership Training 2. Getting Financial Support 3. Model Programs 4. Defining the Issues An adjoining exhibition will be open to the public. Who Should Attend? --Local, state and national organizations that want to mobilize senior volunteers in solving environmental and public health problems. --Local , state and federal government program directors who want to develop senior environmental volunteer programs benefiting senior health and/or community public health and the environment. --Senior citizens who want to participate in ensuring a quality environment for their children and grandchildren. --Community interest groups that want to develop successful programs involving seniors. --Business organizations that want to partner with successful community, state, and national volunteer programs. What Will You Get Out of the Conference? --Training to develop and manage successful senior environmental and public health volunteer programs. --Education in timely, topical public health and environmental issues. --Contacts with community, state and national environmental, public health, volunteer and senior organizations and leaders. --Training in identifying and obtaining resources for your program. --Visit Washington, DC metropolitan area in the springtime! The conference will take place at the Ramada Plaza Hotel in Old Town, Alexandria, VA. Call (703) 683-6000 by April 14 to assure lodging at the special EASI rate. Registration for the conference itself (by April 14, 1997) is $185; on-site registration is $250. Registration includes all preprinted materials, admission to all sessions, snacks, breakfasts 5/15-16, and the luncheon, reception and banquet on 5/16. There is an optional Potomac River dinner cruise on 5/14 for an additional $50. Visit EASI's home page at to learn more about EASI and its associated organizations, and about the conference and exhibition. On-line registration for the conference and exhibition is available. Or you may send payment and registration to EASI 1997 Conference, 8733 Old Dumfries Road, Catlett, VA 20119. For more information, contact Harlow Knight Associates, 5615 N. 26th Street, Arlington, VA 22207. Telephone (703) 241-0019; Fax: (703) 538-5504; Email: Mknighteco@aol.com. From p2tech-owner Sat Jan 11 11:13:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA12910 for p2tech-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:13:26 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: www.ibm.net: uucp set sender to using -f Message-ID: <32D7BE93.21CA@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 08:23:50 -0800 From: Thomas Barron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Used Tire Recycling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The January edition of "Civil Engineering News" contains an article about using shredded tires as road fill. The project, located in Minnesota, used "recycled-tire engineered aggregate" as a cost-saving alternative to more traditional earthwork methods. The engineer on the project was Chuck Michael. You can reach him at: The Michael Group, Inc. 13299 Kerry Lane Eden Prairie, MN 55346 (612) 934-6931 fax 934-4684. If you are interested in the article itself, contact Jane Gaboury, the editor of "Civil Engineering News" at: jgaboury@mindspring.com Tom Barron From p2tech-owner Sat Jan 11 15:47:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA21565 for p2tech-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:47:10 -0500 (EST) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <32D7FC31.2DBC@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:46:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Green Seal Organization, Washington DC -Reply References: <01IE1OKS5CXE8Y4WVE@pnl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Aha! Thank you all for setting me straight. I will definitely contact the Green Seal organization to see what they have available. This may be just what my product needs to give it a big shot in the arm. Thank you everyone who helped set me on the right track! If you ever hear of any more organizations such as other non-profits that do product evaluations, I would appreciate an email at g-whiz@ix.netcom.com. Check out Automobile magazine's Feb 97 issue on page 135. They wrote some good things about my product and about the pollution it can prevent. Thanks! Gerard Forgnone Plastic Oil Products 4869 S. Bradley Rd. Suite 18B-258 Santa Maria, CA 93455 805-937-3050 9am - 6pm http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 kl_peterson@ccmail.pnl.gov wrote: > > I may have missed your point, but those "rules" are for joining GEN, > not for getting an eco label on your commercially available product. > Further down in that site (if you live in USA, then under USA - Green > Seal, there are listed the criteria a product must meet to earn a > Green Seal. > > For example, I'm looking at Green Seal Standard GS-11, Environmental > Standard for Paints, and it gives all the performance and > environmental specifications a paint must meet to earn the GS. URL is > > http://www.interchg.ubc.ca/ecolabel/usstd11.html > > I didn't see any specs listed on the site for synthetic oils (if that > is your business), but I'm sure a call to GS could get you started. > > Keith > > I visited the site mentioned above, and these were the rules put forth: > > > "Membership in the GEN is open to all national or multinational > ecolabelling licensing organisations that actively > pursue GEN objectives. Ecolabelling organizations shall meet the > following criteria: > > based solely on voluntary participation for potential licensees; > run by not-for-profit organisations without commercial interests; > exhibit independence from undue commercial interests; > the source of funding shall not create a conflict of interest; > seek advice from, and consult with, stakeholder interests; > legally protected logo; > determination of criteria based on an assessment of the overall > life of a product category; > open access to potential licensees from all countries; > criteria levels established to encourage the production and use of > products and services that are > significantly less damaging to the environment than other products; > and > periodic review, and if necessary, update of both environmental > criteria and categories, taking into > account technological and market place development." > > The second criteria kind of blows me out of the water. I have a > commercial product that is sold for profit. Anyone else have any ideas > about awards or green-label programs for products? > > Gerard > -- > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 From p2tech-owner Sat Jan 11 16:21:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA22787 for p2tech-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 16:21:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 97 15:21:51 CST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu (Jan Hygnstrom) Subject: Re: Clearinghouses Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cherie Bates of IA Dept. of Nat. Resources, Waste Reduction Assistance Program asked about Clearinghouses for P2 information. I use Pro-Cite for cataloging reports, journal articles, videos and periodicals. How did you categorize things? I categorize pretty much by industry... a simple version of SIC codes, and also general P2, composting, recycling, etc. Those that I just can't figure out a good category for are stored alphabetically by author, until I come up with something. Incidentally, one of my fields in the database tells where the document, book, etc is stored to make for easier retrieval. This has helped me out a lot! Do you have a search engine set-up? Pro-Cite allows me to search by numerous fields (author, title, date of publication, key words which I have selected for each entry, etc.) One powerful tool is that I can also search the abstracts for a word. I write a simple abstract for each item to help me later when I am searching for information. Although this is the most time-consuming part, because it means I really have to read or at least skim everything, it has been very valuable. I have found that Pro-Cite is a snap to export into other programs, such as File maker Pro. I'm still working with the DOS version (we haven't had a chance to upgrade to the Windows version), and can imagine that the Windows version is even more of a snap to use for everything from data entry to retrieval. I chose Pro-Cite because it was cheap, and don't regret it. However, if you want to really fiddle around and don't mind setting up your database starting from scratch, maybe you'd like something like File maker Pro. I've been using it to manipulate, sort and store stuff for a few months, and really like it. We have exported all of our Pro-cite files to File maker pro to use on a web page. I know that Becky Shannon of Missouri DNR also uses ProCite. It seems that Pro-Cite and InMagic are the top contenders. I suggest you try both out, and even take a gander at File maker Pro (the cheapest, yet probably most powerful of all, if you have the time to really develop your own system). Jan Hygnstrom, Extension Assistant University of Nebraska-Lincoln (402) 472-9614 From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 09:30:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA24307 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:30:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9701131708.AA16319@camp.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:33:59 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: simek@camp.rutgers.edu (Mike Simek) Subject: water conservation Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Who should I contact for "Water Conservation Resources" information on federal level and in the state of New Jersey? thank you ,mike From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 09:43:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA24981 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:43:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 9:29:34 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Mario E. Salazar" Subject: ...no subject... X-Incognito-SN: 643 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am glad that Vince Pirelli apologized for posting his thank you note to the whole list. As for me, I would never think of thanking the fantastic people that responded to my request for course information and volunteers for a P2 course we are planning in Ecuador, by sending a note to the whole list. Not me.... Mario Salazar, Environmental Engineer Environmental Pollution Prevention Project USAID, Global Environment USAID/G/ENV SA-18, room 508G Washington, DC 20523-1812 Phone 703 875-4669, fax 875-4639 email: msalazar@usaid.gov, salazar.mario@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 10:03:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA26395 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:03:00 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:56:32 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:24:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: "The Laundry Solution" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:56:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D17ZWQWE7ALF X400-Mts-Identifier: [;23659031107991/479442@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Although there may be some small amount of hope for such a "solution", it gotta be a hoax. "Structured water", as presented, would be the break-through of the century. Such a method would (most likely) require very large amounts of energy. Since water is the "universal solvent", the method most likely takes advantage of the awe you may experience by having your clothes come out of the washer half decent looking, without the addition of cleaners/fabric softeners or rinse water...after all, many people used to wash their clothes (and they were probably a lot dirtier than when we wash our clothes today) in the river using a good rock. Try it yourself sometime, without the use of this laundry marvel. Unless a piece of clothing is well soiled, a good water-only bath can do a fair job (I'd be willing to bet) (this statement is NOT made from practical experience). From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 10:23:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA27607 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:23:06 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:17:02 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:12:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: FWD: beneficial use of incinerator ash To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID oKqiR7NfmKjeUl+VK7Xhcg)" Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:16:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D91ZWQWEOG8G X400-Mts-Identifier: [;20710131107991/479483@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net --Boundary (ID oKqiR7NfmKjeUl+VK7Xhcg) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --Boundary (ID oKqiR7NfmKjeUl+VK7Xhcg) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:20:38 EST From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: beneficial use of incinerator ash To: "/R=great-lakes.net/U=p2tech/FFN=Remote Addressee/"@mr.pader.gov Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Delivery-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:05:00 EST Posting-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:53:00 EST Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential A1-type: MAIL From: R. Illig At: illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us Phone: 717-327-3568 RE: BENEFICIAL USE OF ASH A company by the name of BAM (Beneficial Ash Management) is using both coal fly ash and municipal waste incinerator ash to eliminate acid mine run-off. The highly advanced technology dates back to Roman days and uses these materials to create a type of concrete. At one site, acid runoff which was being treated at a high cost, was esentially eliminated. Ash, in addition to other materials, are used to create a cap which prevents surface water infiltration( at abandoned or out of use mine sites)(reportedly, there is a huge application for the material in Pa.). Capped sites are revegetated, through work with state forestry, fish commission, and other groups, in a manner that provides habitat for wildlife. Top soils used at the sites are also made up of waste materials...BAM has been working with Penn State U. to develop synthetic top soil for this purpose. Paper mill sludge , vegetable tannery waste, and other materials go into the mix. In October 1996, BAM received a Gov. Award for its' waste "recycling" efforts. For more detailed information: Mr. Ernie Rosselli, President Beneficial Ash Management R.D. 1, Box 455 Morrisdale, Pa., 16858 Phone: 814-345-4166 --Boundary (ID oKqiR7NfmKjeUl+VK7Xhcg)-- From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 10:24:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA27744 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:24:43 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:18:46 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:17:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: FWD: beneficial use of incinerator ash To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID M88h4sxjekxLsQ8eYp4P0w)" Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:18:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D51ZWQWEQ5ZF X400-Mts-Identifier: [;64810131107991/479485@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net --Boundary (ID M88h4sxjekxLsQ8eYp4P0w) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --Boundary (ID M88h4sxjekxLsQ8eYp4P0w) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:12:19 EST From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: FWD: beneficial use of incinerator ash To: Remote Addressee Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID ef9c9XoFgTqp1JO+muDSZw)" Delivery-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:17:00 EST Posting-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:16:00 EST Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential A1-type: MAIL --Boundary (ID ef9c9XoFgTqp1JO+muDSZw) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --Boundary (ID ef9c9XoFgTqp1JO+muDSZw) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:20:38 EST From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: beneficial use of incinerator ash To: "/R=great-lakes.net/U=p2tech/FFN=Remote Addressee/"@mr.pader.gov Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Delivery-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:05:00 EST Posting-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:53:00 EST Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential A1-type: MAIL From: R. Illig At: illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us Phone: 717-327-3568 RE: BENEFICIAL USE OF ASH A company by the name of BAM (Beneficial Ash Management) is using both coal fly ash and municipal waste incinerator ash to eliminate acid mine run-off. The highly advanced technology dates back to Roman days and uses these materials to create a type of concrete. At one site, acid runoff which was being treated at a high cost, was esentially eliminated. Ash, in addition to other materials, are used to create a cap which prevents surface water infiltration( at abandoned or out of use mine sites)(reportedly, there is a huge application for the material in Pa.). Capped sites are revegetated, through work with state forestry, fish commission, and other groups, in a manner that provides habitat for wildlife. Top soils used at the sites are also made up of waste materials...BAM has been working with Penn State U. to develop synthetic top soil for this purpose. Paper mill sludge , vegetable tannery waste, and other materials go into the mix. In October 1996, BAM received a Gov. Award for its' waste "recycling" efforts. For more detailed information: Mr. Ernie Rosselli, President Beneficial Ash Management R.D. 1, Box 455 Morrisdale, Pa., 16858 Phone: 814-345-4166 --Boundary (ID ef9c9XoFgTqp1JO+muDSZw)-- --Boundary (ID M88h4sxjekxLsQ8eYp4P0w)-- From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 10:41:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA28941 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:41:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:41:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701131541.KAA28941@cedar.cic.net> From: "Kathryn Barwick" To: p2reg@great-lakes.net, nppr@great-lakes.net Subject: local prgms/p2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control The City of El Segundo Fire Department has applied to the California Dept. of Toxics to be certified as the local hazardous waste regulatory agency (in California, local agencies regulate haz waste generators). Steve Tsumura of the El Segundo Fire Dept. is developing a pollution prevention program to complement the waste activities they will be doing. He would like to establish a program that would include small quantity generators, and is thinking about something involving fees. Steve would like any information about programs that have reduced fees in exchange for actual reductions. Other questions include: 1. What is a reasonable waste reduction goal for a small quantity generator? 2. If he were to use a rebate system for waste reduction, how should the percent reduction be measured--in time or quantity? 3. If public awards are used as an expression of achievement, what types of waste reductions are considered outstanding and noteworthy? (also for pollution prevention) 4. How would you measure pollution prevention gains or benefits to reward an individual? If anyone has any ideas or experience to share, Steve would appreciate it. I will forward any responses to this list to Steve. He can be contacted directly at (310) 607-2242, fax at (310) 414-0929. Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 10:43:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA29039 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:43:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:43:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701131543.KAA29039@cedar.cic.net> From: "Richard Schaffner" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Invitation to Participate in Bioremediation Discussion Group Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net (I apologize if you have already received this invitation). Fellow Environmental Scientist/Engineer, GZA GeoEnvironmental, Inc. (GZA) hosts the Bioremediation Discussion Group (BioGroup) on the Internet. The BioGroup consists of a monitored mailing list serving nearly 1,000 members worldwide. The BioGroup was established to provide a global forum for the technical community to discuss intrinsic/enhanced bioremediation topics. GZA hopes this forum provides a medium to transfer technology, standardize biotreatability protocols, and advance the science and engineering of bioremediation technologies. GZA recognizes bioremediation is not a panacea for soil/groundwater contamination; however, we feel it is an under-utilized remediation technology, its limitations notwithstanding. GZA expects the forum to be a springboard for the pursuit of innovative approaches to bioremediation. Because the success of the BioGroup is a function of the participation of its members, GZA invites anyone with experience and/or interest in bioremediation to join the BioGroup. Due to the complexities of biogeochemical processes that control contaminant biotransformation, we welcome input from environmental engineers, hydrogeologists, soil scientists, microbiologists, environmental chemists, and all who wish to contribute to this important topic. BioGroup postings are archived as a collaborative effort of the Department of Environmental Biology (University of Guelph), the Groundwater Remediation Project (National Water Research Institute, Environment Canada), and GZA. You can visit the archive at http://gwrp.cciw.ca/internet/bioremediation/biorem-archive.html To subscribe to the mailing list, please visit the BioGroup home page at http://biogroup.gzea.com, select "Join Us", and follow the directions therein. Members may choose to participate in either a non-digest mode (i.e., receive each message at the time it is posted) or a digest mode (i.e., receive one message each day summarizing all the postings of that day). There is no membership fee. Please direct any questions about the BioGroup to my attention at rschaffner@gzea.com. Regards, I. Richard Schaffner, Jr., P.G. Technical Specialist, GZA GeoEnvironmental, Inc. (http://www.gza.net) Manager, Bioremediation Discussion Group (http://biogroup.gzea.com) E-mail: rschaffner@gzea.com Phone: 603.623.3600 Fax: 603.624.9463 From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 13:28:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA10692 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:28:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:45:49 -0500 From: JAMES LOUNSBURY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: affirmative procurement products -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The ITAC program in NY City was working on a recycled construction products program. ITAC is in the P2 yellow pages. From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 14:13:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA13778 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:13:19 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta PNS1; Relayed; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:13:04 -0500 MR-Received: by mta EPIC66; Relayed; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:13:04 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Patty Hancock PEN 904/444-8300 Ext. 194" Subject: New Jersey and tires To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:13:03 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal UA-content-id: A191IQV2U1AH X400-MTS-identifier: [;40314131107991/95839@PNS1] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At the risk of starting an international incident, I have someone who wants to know about a company in New Jersey that sells old tires to the Chinese. I believe the purpose is for recycling. Thanks. From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 15:25:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA19825 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:25:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:27:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199701132127.QAA00140@ns.isaac.net> X-Sender: el@isaac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: el Subject: P2 Yellow Pages? Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 12:45 PM 1/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >The ITAC program in NY City was working on a recycled construction products program. ITAC is in the P2 yellow >pages. > Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is "el" and I am here trying to 'learn' a bit about P2 (more specifically as it relates to fuels)....but, I have to break my silence and ask about the P2 yellow pages. Where would one get a copy of this? Thanks! el From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 16:33:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA26357 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:33:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:40:29 -0500 From: ANTONIO BASKERVILLE To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 Yellow Pages? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The P2 Yellow Pages comes from the National Pollution Prevention Roundtable. They can be reached at 202-466-7272 or fax 202-466-7964. Antonio (contractor for EPA) From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 17:12:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA29236 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:12:57 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta PNS1; Relayed; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:11:51 -0500 MR-Received: by mta EPIC66; Relayed; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:11:51 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:11:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Patty Hancock PEN 904/444-8300 Ext. 194" Subject: More on tires To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:11:51 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal UA-content-id: A165IQV3H1BI X400-MTS-identifier: [;15117131107991/95881@PNS1] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I sent this earlier, but it was returned as undeliverable. I apologize if the question did actually post to everyone's addresses earlier. At the risk of starting an international incident, I have someone who wants to know about a company in New Jersey that sells old tires to the Chinese. I believe the purpose is for recycling. Thanks, Patti Hancock_P@pns1.dep.state.fl.us From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 13 17:24:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA29978 for p2tech-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:24:21 -0500 (EST) Date: 13 Jan 97 17:22:13 EST From: Natalie Roy <75664.3520@compuserve.com> To: P2tech Subject: P2 yellow pages Message-ID: <970113222213_75664.3520_FHN72-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net An abridged version of the yellow pages is also available on the National Pollution Prevention Roundtable's web site available on Envirosense. The address is http://es.inel.gov/nppr Natalie Roy/75664.3520@compuserve.com NPPR From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 14 02:53:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id CAA22515 for p2tech-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:53:41 -0500 (EST) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <32DB3B6A.4C5D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:53:14 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: What to do with old tires. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I don't know if this is old technology or new, but it looked pretty darn ingenious. There is a company in Australia called Tyredrain that takes old tires and cuts them in half at 0 and 180 degrees to make semicircles. They then connect the tires side to side to create a half-round culvert for road drainage. Looks kind of interesting. I thought some of you might be interested. This is their website address: http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~ddin/ and their other addresses: Ian Nicholson 8 Wilson Street, Hamilton Newcastle, Australia 2303 Telephone: 049 611618 Facsimile: 049 611618 email address: tyredrain@hunterlink.net.au Just a thought! Gerard -- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 14 08:40:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA00656 for p2tech-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:40:05 -0500 (EST) From: "David Williams" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:39:40 EST Subject: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Recycled vs. reuse X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I forwarded the question about LCA for coffee cups and drying towels to a colleague and got the following response. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "BETH GRAVES" To: "David Williams" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:34:29 EST Subject: Re: (Fwd) (Fwd) Recycled vs. reuse Priority: normal David John Bonitz showed me where a collegiate discussion group had indexed some of its dialogues. The listserve is out of the Univ. of Virginia. I did a search of food and durables and got a long list. I will put it on your desk. For the person interested, I would direct them there as a start. It is not the easiest thing to do. 1. go to http://ecosys.drdr.virginia.edu/ 2. then scroll to bottom, click on search 3. type "curc" 4. double click on "What's New on the CURC web" 5. go up to the http address and delete the word "new" that is part of the URL address and hit enter 6. this will take you to the real curc info page. Scroll down items on the left of your screen till you get to "RECYC-L Archives" - double click 7. this takes you to where you would do a search like the one I gave you. You may also try Green Seal, where Kathleen used to work as they are known for their LCA work. I forwarded her message to you already. I had this question come up about 6 months ago for Duke Power and their cafeteria but was not able to find much information then. Unfortunately, I can't find those notes. Beth Beth Graves Waste Management Analyst NC Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance (DPPEA) 919-715-6506 or 800-763-0136 Beth_Graves@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us web site: http://www.owr.state.nc.us/ David Williams NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6527 Fax: (919) 715-6794 e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 14 08:43:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA00765 for p2tech-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:43:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Bray, Gregory A." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "'el@isaac.net'" Subject: RE: P2 Yellow Pages? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:42:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The NPPR's P2 Yellow Pages are on-line and can be found at http://es.inel.gov/nppr/nppr_yps.html >---------- >From: el[SMTP:el@isaac.net] >Sent: Monday, January 13, 1997 4:27 PM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: P2 Yellow Pages? > >At 12:45 PM 1/13/97 -0500, you wrote: >>The ITAC program in NY City was working on a recycled construction products >program. ITAC is in the P2 yellow >>pages. >> > >Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is "el" and I am here trying >to 'learn' a bit about P2 (more specifically as it relates to fuels)....but, >I have to break my silence and ask about the P2 yellow pages. Where would >one get a copy of this? Thanks! >el > > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 14 18:54:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA15309 for p2tech-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <32DBEBA4.2309@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:02:56 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Green Seal Program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello everyone! I called the Green Seal Program in Washington DC at 202-331-7337, and a fellow by the name of Mark Petruzzi was quite helpful. He explained to me that their program is geared to providing information about greener alternatives to existing products, i.e. less toxic cleaners and paints, more efficient light bulbs and air conditioners, and such. This is from their site at http://www.greenseal.org/howto.htm > Green Seal is a nonprofit environmental labeling organization that awards > the "Green Seal of Approval" to products that cause less harm to the > environment than other similar products. Before a product gets the Green > Seal, it must pass rigorous tests and meet our stringent environmental > standards. Their program does not provide recommendations for items that have no other alternative, such as composters. You either compost or you don't. This was his example. My product is an oil bottle draining tool for anyone who uses quart oil bottles. There is certainly an environmental benefit to be gained by draining the 1-2 ounces of oil remaining in 3.43 billion quart bottles of oil sold in the U.S. every year. It's simple mathematics. However, since the alternative is to not drain bottles, Green Seal was not able to help me out. Which leads back to the original question: Aren't there any awards or non-profit organization recommendations that a manufacturer with a commercial product with demonstrable environmental benefits can turn to for help in getting the word out about the problem? I have identified an easily and cheaply solved environmental problem, but I don't have the enormous advertising budget it takes to let the world know about it. Consumer Reports criticizes products with excess packaging. Is there any organization that goes the other direction to praise products with little or no packaging, or products that have definite positive environmental impacts? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks! Gerard Forgnone Plastic Oil Products 4869 S. Bradley Rd. Suite 18B-258 Santa Maria, CA 93455 805-937-3050 805-937-6819 fax -- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 14 20:36:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id UAA19818 for p2tech-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:36:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:36:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701150136.UAA12354@mailnfs0.tiac.net> X-Sender: jcantin@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jeff Cantin Subject: Re: Green Seal Program Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear G-Whiz: Many states have recognition programs for pollution preventers. I would contact the P2 department within Cal-EPA. Let us know when you win the award. Jeff Cantin Eastern Research Group Lexington, MA jcantin@tiac.net >My product is an oil bottle draining tool for anyone who uses quart oil >bottles. There is certainly an environmental benefit to be gained by >draining the 1-2 ounces of oil remaining in 3.43 billion quart bottles >of oil sold in the U.S. every year. It's simple mathematics. From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 14 21:44:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id VAA22893 for p2tech-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:44:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32DC142A.35F1@ci.lincoln.ne.us> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:18:02 -0800 From: Air Lab Organization: Lincoln-Lancaster County Health X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: alternate internet address Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net We are having problems logging into p2tech archives. Apparently, according to our network person, our server will not allow us to access gopher sites because of the firewall that is present due to security issues with gopher sites. I tried the following www site http://www.hazard.uiuc.edu/wmrc/greatl/archives.html, which did not work. Could anyone recommend alternative www internet addresses that might work with our server. From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 08:33:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA10549 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:33:54 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:33:43 EST Subject: Re: alternate internet address X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <2764D15488@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:18:02 -0800 From: Air Lab Organization: Lincoln-Lancaster County Health To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: alternate internet address Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net An Unknown Person Asks: We are having problems logging into p2tech archives. Apparently, according to our network person, our server will not allow us to access gopher sites because of the firewall that is present due to security issues with gopher sites. I tried the following www site http://www.hazard.uiuc.edu/wmrc/greatl/archives.html, which did not work. Could anyone recommend alternative www internet addresses that might work with our server. ******************************************************** Try http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/search.html If you get a chance, let me know who you are and what state you are from. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 09:11:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA12256 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:11:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970115141127.0067be1c@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:11:27 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Lisa C. Morrison" Subject: Re: alternate internet address Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Archive information is available in many different forms to suit user needs and computer capabilities. Below are listed the Internet address for all sites containing P2Tech archives and the information available on those sites. 1. http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/search.html This is the newest P2Tech archive format. It allows users to search the subject lines of messages for key words of interest, and the searches appear to give pertinent results. Instructions for searching with multiple words are included. This archive is updated daily and includes a feature that allows a user to respond to the message directly from the Internet interface. This format only includes the last four months, however. Further, it does not connect strings of messages together, so the progression of a discussion may not be readily obvious. 2. http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/96/maillist.html This format chronologically lists the subject line and author of all messages posted in the last four months. The full text of any of the messages can then be viewed from this page. The page is updated daily and users can reply to P2Tech or the author from individual messages. However, messages are not grouped so strings are difficult to identify. 3. http://gopher.great-lakes.net:2200/1s/mailarc/p2tech gopher://gopher.great-lakes.net:2200/1s/mailarc/p2tech These sites list the same information (the http site uses a better format). The pages include: a. Purpose Statement, Instructions and Subscriber Roster b. Search All Messages: searches are done by subject line and produce a list of relevant messages. NOTE: SEARCHING CAN ONLY BE DONE USING ONE WORD. ("College" works, "College Course" gives no results) c. Search For All Relevant Archives: This lists all archives that contain messages with the desired subject word. The individual archives can then be searched. NOTE: SEARCHES CAN ONLY CONTAIN ONE WORD. d. Edited Digest: Message are grouped by string. Path information and extraneous messages are removed. Users can pick from all subject heading or do a subject line search. NOTE: SEARCHES CAN ONLY CONTAIN ONE WORD. e. Monthly Archives: Users can view messages posted in a given month. Messages can be selected by subject line or by searching subject heading. NOTE: SEARCHES CAN ONLY CONTAIN ONE WORD. f. Complete Text of Archives and Digests: One long file containing all messages posted in a given month or year can be viewed or printed. These files are text only and cannot be searched. 4. ftp://ftp.great-lakes.net/pub/great-lakes/mailarc/p2tech This file includes the complete text of monthly archives and digests. Files can be downloaded but have no search capabilities. At 08:33 AM 1/15/97 EST, RUDY MOEHRBACH wrote: >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:18:02 -0800 >From: Air Lab >Organization: Lincoln-Lancaster County Health >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: alternate internet address >Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net >An Unknown Person Asks: >We are having problems logging into p2tech archives. Apparently, >according to our network person, our server will not allow us to access >gopher sites because of the firewall that is present due to security >issues with gopher sites. I tried the following www site >http://www.hazard.uiuc.edu/wmrc/greatl/archives.html, which did not work. >Could anyone recommend alternative www internet addresses that might work >with our server. >******************************************************** >Try http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/search.html > >If you get a chance, let me know who you are and what state you >are from. > >Rudy Moehrbach >Waste Reduction Resource Center >P.O.Box 29569 >Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 >Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm > > **************************************************************************** ************ Lisa C. Morrison 217/244-6061 (v) Technical / Information Specialist 217/333-8944 (f) IL Waste Management and Research Cnt. morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** ************ From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 09:44:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA14657 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:44:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:44:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151444.JAA14657@cedar.cic.net> From: Geoff Sclare To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Composting and disposal of dead chickens Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Poultry farmers in South Australia "produce" about 30 tonnes of waste dead chickens each week This can be a serious problem from the point of view of the environment and as a nuisance About 10 tonnes are (less-than-successfully)composted and the remainder are sent to landfill Does anyone have any information about a satisfactory resolution to this issue and any experience with this? Thank you to you all in anticipation Geoff Sclare SA Environment Protection Authority From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 09:47:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA14877 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:47:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:47:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151447.JAA14877@cedar.cic.net> From: CHRISTINA LAVIERI To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: boilers, coal fired Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ConnTAP has been asked by the Estonian PPC for any information we can come up with on 1.) improving the combustion efficiency and pre-treating the water going into small (up to 10 mw) boilers, and 2.) drying fresh sawed timber in kilns while recovering as much heat as possible. The boiler water question is, we believe, more about hardness (what is the optimum), and what needs to be done to reduce blow-downs. Any articles, case studies, references, etc. would be much appreciated. Since I'm posting this from home, please forward any replies to my office, svplink@aol.com Many thanks, Ed Parsons From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 09:56:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA15733 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:56:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:56:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151456.JAA15733@cedar.cic.net> From: Lynn A Corson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Food Processing Industries Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2 Techers: A colleague at Purdue has expressed interest in P2 information for the Food Processing industries, SIC Group 20. This is an industry our Institute does not work with. Any referral to publications, experts, technical assistance providers or other resources would be appreciated. Lynn A. Corson, Ph.D., Director Indiana Pollution Prevention and Safe Materials Institute School of Civil Engineering 1291 Cumberland Avenue, Suite C1 West Lafayette, IN 47906-1385 (317)494-6450 Fax: (317)494-6422 Email: corsonl@ecn.purdue.edu From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 10:10:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA16877 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:10:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 10:09:48 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net We have a large poultry sector here in Delaware and have been dealing with the "dead bird disposal" issue for quite some time. A few years ago a major effort toward composting the dead birds was started. I do not have updated information, but suggest you contact Kevin Donnelly of our agency for info. He can be reached at: 302-739-4411. I am not sure if he is on internet e-mail, if he is, his address would be: kdonnelly@dnrec.state.de.us Hope this is useful. Andrea K. Farrell Manager Pollution Prevention Program DNREC P.O. Box 1401, 89 Kings Hwy. Dover, DE 19903 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 FAX afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 10:11:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA17003 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:11:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 10:10:49 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: re: Food Processing Industries Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Lynn, If you send me the name & address, we will send our P2 Guide for Fodd Processors to your colleague. Andrea K. Farrell Manager Pollution Prevention Program DNREC P.O. Box 1401, 89 Kings Hwy. Dover, DE 19903 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 FAX afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 11:22:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA23291 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:22:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:22:50 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970115102242.501f89c6@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: gmiller@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Gary Miller Subject: Re: Food Processing Industries Cc: kishore@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dr. Corson, We have a very good expert in this sector, Dr. Kishore Rajagopalan. Kishore can be reached at 217-244-8905. Gary Miller Il. Waste Management and Research Center _____________________________________________________________________________ At 09:56 AM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: > >P2 Techers: > >A colleague at Purdue has expressed interest in >P2 information for the Food Processing industries, >SIC Group 20. This is an industry our Institute >does not work with. Any referral to publications, >experts, technical assistance providers or other >resources would be appreciated. > >Lynn A. Corson, Ph.D., Director >Indiana Pollution Prevention and Safe Materials Institute >School of Civil Engineering >1291 Cumberland Avenue, Suite C1 >West Lafayette, IN 47906-1385 >(317)494-6450 >Fax: (317)494-6422 >Email: corsonl@ecn.purdue.edu > > > > From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 11:34:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA24430 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:34:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:34:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151634.LAA25923@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: tgreiner@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: tgreiner@tiac.net (tgreiner) Subject: Re: Green Seal Program Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ---Gerard Forgnone wrote------------------------- >Aren't there any awards or non-profit organization recommendations that >a manufacturer with a commercial product with demonstrable environmental >benefits can turn to for help in getting the word out about the >problem? I have identified an easily and cheaply solved environmental >problem, but I don't have the enormous advertising budget it takes to >let the world know about it. > Try Tracy Walsh of Renew America in Washington DC 202-232-2252 Renew America gives awards for Programs, not products but they do have a list of programs that give awards for products (if that makes sense). Tim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Timothy J. Greiner MBA, MCP Greiner Environmental 2 Emily Lane Gloucester, MA 01930 tel: 508-525-2214 fax: 508-525-2247 e-mail: tgreiner@tiac.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 11:52:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA26330 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:52:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32DD2861.919@max.state.ia.us> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:56:33 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: P2 Regulation integration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am posting this message on behalf of our Program Manager (Beth Hicks). Please send responses to her address ehicks@max.state.ia.us. The IA Waste Reduction assistance program is looking for other organizations who have hired a consultant for regulatory process mapping, as part of the pollution prevention regulation integration. Please send contact name, organization, e-mail address and/or phone no., and any comments to ehicks@max.state.ia.us. Or give her a call at 515/281-8927. Thanks Cherri Bates IDNR WRAP 515-281-8499 cbates@max.state.ia.us From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 12:28:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA29731 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:28:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32DD30C3.5ED0@max.state.ia.us> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:32:19 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Additional Request Clearinghouse Databases Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Let me start out by saying thank-you to all the people who responded to my message on how Clearinghouses are managing their information. I have an additional request. Based on the responses I received, several organizations already have databases established. I would like to compile a list of databases I could link to in our clearinghouse. I would like to know about databases for technical information and vendor information. I am new to the field of pollution prevention resources. If there is a list already out, there please let me know. From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 12:28:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA29726 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:28:16 -0500 (EST) From: Svplink@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:26:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970115122641_272977903@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: chrislav@esslink.com Subject: Re: alternate internet address Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Could not believe the coincidence. I sent an e-mail to the P2TECH listserver not 2 hours ago because of my inability to access the archives. What are we doing wrong? (Being half Irish, I've come to expect it's always my fault.) Ed Parsons, ConnTAP From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 12:41:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA01081 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:41:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:41:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701151741.MAA01081@cedar.cic.net> From: ROSALIE GREEN To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Composting and disposal of dead chickens -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Mr. Sclares: Thank you for informing our Office of Solid Waste, Environmental Protection Agency, of your chicken mortality problem in Australia. Certainly, 30 tonnes of dead chickens each week is a serious loss; and it is also a loss that the compost made from these mortalities is of immature, poor quality. One of the nation's experts in mortality composting is Dr. Lewis Carr, Agricultural Engineer, Eastern Shore Research & Education Center., 11990 Strickland Drive, Princess Anne, Maryland 21853. This Center is part of the Extension Service at the University of Maryland. Dr. Carr has successfully composted chicken, hogs and cattle mortalities and has journal publications about his activities in this field. If you are in need of further information,please feel free to contact me at Green.Rosalie@EPAmail.Epa.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 13:00:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA02376 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:00:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970115180038.008a51c4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:00:38 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: Re: Additional Request Clearinghouse Databases Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You may want to look at the Enviro$en$e homepage, . This is the US EPAs pollution prevention page and contains links to just about everything. Specifically, TechInfo (a national bibliographic database) and VendInfo (a national vendor database) are located there. The direct addresses are: and . We are in the process of updating both database right now. Bill Nelson at Illinois WMRC is also working on an aqueous cleaners database that will be housed on Enviro$en$e. I don't know all of the details, but you can contact him at 217/244-5521 or bnelson@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Lisa At 11:32 AM 1/15/97 -0800, you wrote: >Let me start out by saying thank-you to all the people who responded to >my message on how Clearinghouses are managing their information. I have >an additional request. > >Based on the responses I received, several organizations already have >databases established. I would like to compile a list of databases I >could link to in our clearinghouse. I would like to know about >databases for technical information and vendor information. > >I am new to the field of pollution prevention resources. If there is a >list already out, there please let me know. > > **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 14:13:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA08283 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:13:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:15:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199701152015.PAA03756@ns.isaac.net> X-Sender: el@isaac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: el Subject: Email lists Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone know if there is an existing list which could supply me with all of the Email addresses (for corporations involved in P2, state government, environmental groups, etc.)? TIA! el From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 14:22:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA09020 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:22:08 -0500 (EST) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199701151921.LAA10348@netcom15.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens -Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:21:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199701151741.MAA01081@cedar.cic.net> from "ROSALIE GREEN" at Jan 15, 97 12:41:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Since this is a pollution prevention listserver, I have to ask: Have the chicken farmers researched ways to reduce the losses? I remember coming across a lot of material at one time on temperature controls and chicken mortalities. > > Mr. Sclares: Thank you for informing our Office of Solid Waste, > Environmental Protection Agency, of your chicken > mortality problem in Australia. Certainly, 30 tonnes of dead chickens each > week is a serious loss; and it is also a loss that > the compost made from these mortalities is of immature, poor quality. One > of the nation's experts in mortality composting > is Dr. Lewis Carr, Agricultural Engineer, Eastern Shore Research & Education > Center., 11990 Strickland Drive, Princess > Anne, Maryland 21853. This Center is part of the Extension Service at the > University of Maryland. Dr. Carr has > successfully composted chicken, hogs and cattle mortalities and has journal > publications about his activities in this field. > If you are in need of further information,please feel free to contact me at > Green.Rosalie@EPAmail.Epa.gov > > From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 14:50:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA11371 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:50:48 -0500 (EST) From: Envcoalsea@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:49:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970115144948_470641318@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Tires Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There are at least 2 cement plants locally that use tires. Holnam uses shredded tires and As Grove Cement uses whole tires. Contact me if you want more info on their processes. Charlie Cunniff, Director ECOSS Environmental Coalition of South Seattle 206 767-0432 FAX 767-0302 EnvCoalSea@aol.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 15 15:50:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA16217 for p2tech-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:50:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:51:28 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970115145119.2d17ce64@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: gmiller@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Gary Miller Subject: Re: Email lists Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net El, A good place to start is this listserv. Combined with the NPPR listserv you would reach a large proportion of the audience you listed in various government organizations and probably environmental groups. Gary Miller WMRC ______________________________________________________________________________ At 03:15 PM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone know if there is an existing list which could supply me with all >of the Email addresses (for corporations involved in P2, state government, >environmental groups, etc.)? >TIA! >el > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 08:32:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA23811 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:32:51 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:26:42 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 07:24:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: COMPOSTING AND DISPOSAL OF CHICKENS To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:08:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D70ZWQZBMPHD X400-Mts-Identifier: [;24628061107991/484152@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: R. Illig Re: Chicken Composting and Disposal I don't expect this idea to "scratch" the surface, but can there be any parallel to the beef processing industries? Beef (and I think pork) bones. guts, scrap, etc. basically get cooked and dried to produce bone meal and tallow. Bone meal goes for a variety of feeds and products. Tallow is also widely used in a variety of products, including cosmetics. (at least, I think I'm remembering my beef processing correctly). Perhaps local beef processors would be able to handle a small percentage of waste chicken in their processes. During a recent visit to a pet food producer (Heinz), it was noted that tanker truckloads of chicken processing by-products were used. The volume of of material that went into the pet food production process was not a "poultry" amount. Very big business in the U.S. Another possibility may include waste chicken as a nitrogen source for production of artificial soils. Current mine reclamation projects in Pa. have worked with Penn State U. to develop artificial soils, using a variety of waste materials, for the purpose of revegetating these sites. Cooperation from forestry, fish, and wildlife services, and others, have resulted in the recovery of these lands for creating habitat for native wildlife. I guess this basically involves composting but I would like to think it goes one step further. Zoos, as well as farmers (pork industry), may also have an interest in using waste chicken as a food source. Can't hurt to ask. I hope these suggestion have some benefit and don't "foul" your thinking. If so, you won't hear another "peep" out of me. Ric From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 08:52:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA24672 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:52:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970116072531.3bffeeca@pegasus.ckyinc.com> X-Sender: josie@pegasus.ckyinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "L. Josie Phillips" Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 07:28:43 -0500 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I was discussing closed loop cycles with a friend the other day and (believe it or not) dead chickens was an example used. It seems chicken farmers in Florida also have a high mortality rate (due to the heat I would guess). To offset their losses, the farmers invested in alligators. A sufficient pond facility was built surrounded by a high fence. The dead chickens are fed to the alligators. The alligators are later harvested for their hides and meat. An efficient solution with the minimum waste. At 09:44 AM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Poultry farmers in South Australia "produce" about 30 tonnes of waste dead >chickens each week This can be a serious problem from the point of view of >the environment and as a nuisance About 10 tonnes are >(less-than-successfully)composted and the remainder are sent to landfill > >Does anyone have any information about a satisfactory resolution to this >issue and any experience with this? > >Thank you to you all in anticipation > >Geoff Sclare >SA Environment Protection Authority > > ************************************************************ L. Josie Phillips CKY, Inc. 140 East Division Street, Suite C-3 Oak Ridge, TN 37830 P) 423-483-4376 ext. 205 F) 423-482-3585 E) josie@ckyinc.com PLEASE NOTE: My EMail address has changed from 5LM@ornl.gov to josie@ckyinc.com. Please make the change in your contacts lists and EMail nicknames. "Every speaker has a mouth; An arrangement rather neat. Sometimes it's filled with wisdom. Sometimes it's filled with feet." ^ ^ - Robert Orben, American humorist and speechwriter ' ' ~~~ **************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 08:56:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA24924 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:56:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:58:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199701161358.IAA17192@sleepy.ebtech.net> X-Sender: glppcnet@mail.ebtech.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: sarnia@glppc.org (GLPPC) Subject: Re: Food Processing Industries X-Mailer: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In response to the question on food processing industries here are a couple of documents that are available: the "Technical Pollution Prevention Guide for Fruit and Vegetable Processing Industry in the Lower Fraser Basin" and the "Technical Pollution Prevention Guide for Dairy Product Processing Industry in the Lower Fraser Basin" provide industry profiles and overviews of possible environmental problems, best management practices and best control technologies. Step-by-step procedures will teach operators how to conduct a P2 program through self-audits, planning, implementation and result assessment. These guides can be obtained by calling David Poon at (604) 666-2862. Hope this is helpful. Deb Foster Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre 1-800-667-9790 > >P2 Techers: > >A colleague at Purdue has expressed interest in >P2 information for the Food Processing industries, >SIC Group 20. This is an industry our Institute >does not work with. Any referral to publications, >experts, technical assistance providers or other >resources would be appreciated. > >Lynn A. Corson, Ph.D., Director >Indiana Pollution Prevention and Safe Materials Institute >School of Civil Engineering >1291 Cumberland Avenue, Suite C1 >West Lafayette, IN 47906-1385 >(317)494-6450 >Fax: (317)494-6422 >Email: corsonl@ecn.purdue.edu > > > Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre 265 N. Front St., Suite 112 Sarnia, ON N7T 7X1 Tel: (519) 337-3423 Fax: (519) 337-3486 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 08:57:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA24933 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:57:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:58:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199701161358.IAA17196@sleepy.ebtech.net> X-Sender: glppcnet@mail.ebtech.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: sarnia@glppc.org (GLPPC) Subject: Re: Food Processing Industries X-Mailer: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In response to the food processing industry question, here are a couple documents available: the "Technical Pollution Prevention Guide for Fruit and Vegetable Processing Industry in the Lower Fraser Basin" and the "Technical Pollution Prevention Guide for Dairy Product Processing Industry in the Lower Fraser Basin. These documents provide industry profiles and overviews of possible environmental problems, best management practices and best control technologies. Step-by-step procedures will teach operators how to conduct a pollution prevention program through self-audits, planning, implementation and result assessment. These guides can be obtained by calling David Poon at (604) 666-2862. Deb Foster Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre 1-800-667-9790 ___ > >P2 Techers: > >A colleague at Purdue has expressed interest in >P2 information for the Food Processing industries, >SIC Group 20. This is an industry our Institute >does not work with. Any referral to publications, >experts, technical assistance providers or other >resources would be appreciated. > >Lynn A. Corson, Ph.D., Director >Indiana Pollution Prevention and Safe Materials Institute >School of Civil Engineering >1291 Cumberland Avenue, Suite C1 >West Lafayette, IN 47906-1385 >(317)494-6450 >Fax: (317)494-6422 >Email: corsonl@ecn.purdue.edu > > > Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre 265 N. Front St., Suite 112 Sarnia, ON N7T 7X1 Tel: (519) 337-3423 Fax: (519) 337-3486 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 09:00:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA25184 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:00:39 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:00:07 EST Subject: Re: Food Processing Industries X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:56:19 -0500 (EST) From: Lynn A Corson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Food Processing Industries Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Lynn asks: P2 Techers: A colleague at Purdue has expressed interest in P2 information for the Food Processing industries, SIC Group 20. This is an industry our Institute does not work with. Any referral to publications, experts, technical assistance providers or other resources would be appreciated. Lynn A. Corson, Ph.D., Director Indiana Pollution Prevention and Safe Materials Institute School of Civil Engineering 1291 Cumberland Avenue, Suite C1 West Lafayette, IN 47906-1385 (317)494-6450 Fax: (317)494-6422 Email: corsonl@ecn.purdue.edu ********************************************************* Lynn, Thru our homepage you can access 12 articles on the subject, and order those that you want. You can also search our RLIBY database and read abstracts of other articles we may have. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 09:47:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA28247 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:47:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701161446.IAA61154@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: pannis@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:43:56 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Phillip J. Annis" Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Geoff Someone recently posted a message or I saw an article about poultry farmers who have also become alligator farmers. Why? Well one of the reasons is that those pesky ole gators will eat just about all the dead chicken you care to give them. I don't know your climate or capability there but perhaps gators or croc's are your waste disposal answer. They also harvest the gators for meat and hides. At 09:44 AM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Poultry farmers in South Australia "produce" about 30 tonnes of waste dead >chickens each week This can be a serious problem from the point of view of >the environment and as a nuisance About 10 tonnes are >(less-than-successfully)composted and the remainder are sent to landfill > >Does anyone have any information about a satisfactory resolution to this >issue and any experience with this? > >Thank you to you all in anticipation > >Geoff Sclare >SA Environment Protection Authority > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 11:01:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA02994 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:01:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701161601.AA10541@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: "The Chicken Story" Date: Thu Jan 16 10:55:20 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello: The following statement was presented over P2TECH: Since this is a pollution prevention listserver, I have to ask: Have the chicken farmers researched ways to reduce the losses? I remember coming across a lot of material at one time on temperature controls and chicken mortalities. > > Mr. Sclares: Thank you for informing our Office of Solid Waste, > Environmental Protection Agency, of your chicken > mortality problem in Australia. Certainly, 30 tonnes of dead chickens each > week is a serious loss; and it is also a loss that > the compost made from these mortalities is of immature, poor quality. One > of the nation's experts in mortality composting > is Dr. Lewis Carr, Agricultural Engineer, Eastern Shore Research & Education > Center., 11990 Strickland Drive, Princess > Anne, Maryland 21853. This Center is part of the Extension Service at the > University of Maryland. Dr. Carr has > successfully composted chicken, hogs and cattle mortalities and has journal > publications about his activities in this field. > If you are in need of further information,please feel free to contact me at > Green.Rosalie@EPAmail.Epa.gov > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------> I find the chicken carcass issue interesting and somewhat amusing. I must admit my ignorance of composting, especially as it applies to animal tissue. By reducing the biomass of the animal through the composting decomposition process, at surface, it would appear to be self-defeating, if not less cost effective, to treat a carcass in this manner instead of allowing it to naturally decompose, and release nutrients, at the target site (eg. farm). Would not composting also pose odor, pests, and health concerns. If so, how are these issues addressed? Does the composting process actually concentrate or enrich nutrients or make them more readily available to plants, or does it impart beneficial physical/chemical qualities to soil? Does this apply to plant- as well as animal-derived compost? What about the feasibility of using a freeze-drying type of technology (or some other procedure) that retains as much of the original mass (minus water) of the animal tissue as possible; and then perhaps pulverize the tissue or convert it into a form that is more readily packaged, handled, and used for its intended purpose (eg. supplementary animal feed, fertilizers, etc.) Also, what happens to the skeleton? Is this ground up in the compost (as a source of calcium) or discarded? What about the practicality of fermenting animal tissue (in special tanks) to generate methane gas that can be used in commercial application? Having said this, I apologize to the P2 experts for taken up their valuable time in presenting this discourse. Art Coleman Ohio EPA, Division of Hazardous Waste Management. "Confucius say ..." "Man who runs behind car gets exhausted!" From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 11:08:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA03827 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:08:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970116110608.210f3a48@pegasus.ckyinc.com> X-Sender: josie@pegasus.ckyinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "L. Josie Phillips" Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:09:24 -0500 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ************************************************************ L. Josie Phillips CKY, Inc. 140 East Division Street, Suite C-3 Oak Ridge, TN 37830 P) 423-483-4376 ext. 205 F) 423-482-3585 E) josie@ckyinc.com PLEASE NOTE: My EMail address has changed from 5LM@ornl.gov to josie@ckyinc.com. Please make the change in your contacts lists and EMail nicknames. "Every speaker has a mouth; An arrangement rather neat. Sometimes it's filled with wisdom. Sometimes it's filled with feet." ^ ^ - Robert Orben, American humorist and speechwriter ' ' ~~~ **************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 12:31:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA11246 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:31:17 -0500 (EST) From: FORCELLAD@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:32:16 -0500 (EST) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net CC: FORCELLAD@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU Message-Id: <970116123216.202a7175@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> Subject: RE: "The Chicken Story" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Art Colemn's post reminded me of a past life working to dispose of radioactive material. Seems someone, I believe U of Rochester had developed a system for managing animals from labs. Maybe there is some help here if anyone has more info. If there is interest, post privately and I will track down information. Domenic Forcella now leading the "quiet" life of a campus health and safety officer. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 12:43:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA12278 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:43:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Douglas W. Kievit-Kylar" Organization: VT Agency of Natural Resources To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:42:10 EST Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <83C65953CCC@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:43:56 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Phillip J. Annis" Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vicky, As promised. I really love this one. Can we replace the rendering plants with crocs and alligators here in VT? [DKK] Geoff Someone recently posted a message or I saw an article about poultry farmers who have also become alligator farmers. Why? Well one of the reasons is that those pesky ole gators will eat just about all the dead chicken you care to give them. I don't know your climate or capability there but perhaps gators or croc's are your waste disposal answer. They also harvest the gators for meat and hides. At 09:44 AM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Poultry farmers in South Australia "produce" about 30 tonnes of waste dead >chickens each week This can be a serious problem from the point of view of >the environment and as a nuisance About 10 tonnes are >(less-than-successfully)composted and the remainder are sent to landfill > >Does anyone have any information about a satisfactory resolution to this >issue and any experience with this? > >Thank you to you all in anticipation > >Geoff Sclare >SA Environment Protection Authority > > Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner Vermont Agency of Natural Resources Environmental Assistance Division 103 South Main Street Waterbury VT 05671-0411 phone: (802) 241-3628 FAX: (802) 241-3273 e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us "Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." -- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 13:53:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA17598 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 13:53:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Constable,Miles [Edm]" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Composting and disposal of dead chickens Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:51:26 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Considering that these particular chickens are in South Australia there is another potential way of using the chickens. A fish farm using sharks. There is a very large market in oriental countries and western North America (China, Taiwan, California, others?) for dried shark fins for shark fin soup. Now, the exact species is usually not a concern, and sharks will eat just about anything, so there is a potential opportunity here. We farm salmon in the northern hemisphere, perhaps sharks could be substituted in the southern hemisphere. Of course, salmon won't devour you if you call into the cage, but proper worker safety procedures could be developed. Just thinking. Miles Constable Senior Toxic Substances Consultant Environment Canada - Edmonton Miles.Constable@ec.gc.ca >---------- >From: Douglas W. Kievit-Kylar[SMTP:dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us] >Sent: Thursday, January 16, 1997 10:42 AM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:43:56 -0600 >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >From: "Phillip J. Annis" >Subject: Re: Composting and disposal of dead chickens >Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > >Vicky, >As promised. I really love this one. Can we replace the rendering >plants with crocs and alligators here in VT? [DKK] > >Geoff > >Someone recently posted a message or I saw an article about poultry farmers >who have also become alligator farmers. Why? Well one of the reasons is that >those pesky ole gators will eat just about all the dead chicken you care to >give them. > >I don't know your climate or capability there but perhaps gators or croc's >are your waste disposal answer. They also harvest the gators for meat and >hides. > > >At 09:44 AM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Poultry farmers in South Australia "produce" about 30 tonnes of waste dead >>chickens each week This can be a serious problem from the point of view of >>the environment and as a nuisance About 10 tonnes are >>(less-than-successfully)composted and the remainder are sent to landfill >> >>Does anyone have any information about a satisfactory resolution to this >>issue and any experience with this? >> >>Thank you to you all in anticipation >> >>Geoff Sclare >>SA Environment Protection Authority >> >> > > > >Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner >Vermont Agency of Natural Resources >Environmental Assistance Division >103 South Main Street >Waterbury VT 05671-0411 >phone: (802) 241-3628 >FAX: (802) 241-3273 >e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us >"Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." >-- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 14:09:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA18695 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:09:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: FW: re: dead chickens Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:08:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Here's a lead from the compost listserver re: folks who have experience with composting dead birds. Although, I think we can all agree that feeding them to the aligators makes a much better case study... (How about using other voracious beasties like black bears or racoons for chicken rendering in places that are too cold for gators?) Melissa RTI, Pollution Prevention Group melissa@rti.org >---------- >From: Kelly Slocum[SMTP:kslocum@e-z.net] >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 1997 9:34 AM >To: compost@listproc.wsu.edu >Subject: Re: composting catfish questions > >Hi Don > >I don't have the informtion you'rre looking for but I believe they do at >the Woodsend Research institute. William Brinton has done a great deal >of experimentation with composting meats with tremendous success. After >one of the recent huricanes that devestated the east coast he and his >staff composted thousands of drowned chickens with apparently no >problems. They also have done research on composting fish wastes and by >products and could undoubtedly answer your questions. > >Woodsend has a web sit where you can get more information. The address >is http://www.main.com/woodsend. Kelly Slocum ------------------------------- >Dboek@aol.com wrote: >> >> Question for everyone: >> >> At Clemson University, a group has come up with a very efficient technique >> for raising >> fish. A problem is how to handle the wastes. Each day, about 1000 gallons >>(2% >> solids) >> of waste is pumped from the pond. They tried to compost the material last >> year by >> mixing the material with sawdust in a holding pit, but this generated >>smells >> and was not >> successful. They are planning this year to simply dig a hole and bury the >> wastes. >> >> My feeling is that there must be a better way. Any ideas? >> >> Does anyone know the compostition (esp. N and C) of catfish excreta (or any >> fish >> wastes)? >> >> In this kind of situation, with a very high amount of liquid, is it >>sensible >> to consider >> aerobic composting, or is an anaerobic technique (or preprocessing step) >>more >> practical? >> >> Thanks for your ideas. >> >> Don >> Charlotte, NC, USA > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 16:17:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA28719 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:17:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970116211753.008f7df4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:17:53 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: Archive Updated Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Oops! I gave out the wrong address for one of theP2Tech archives sites in my last e-mail. The following addresses are correct. (#1 and #2 were incorrect on the first posting.) P2Tech Archives: =============================================================== Archive information is available in many different forms to suit user needs and computer capabilities. Below are listed the Internet address for all sites containing P2Tech archives and the information available on those sites. 1. http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/year/maillist.html This is the newest P2Tech archive format. It allows users to search the subject lines of messages for key words of interest, and the searches appear to give pertinent results. Instructions for searching with multiple words are included. This archive is updated daily and includes a feature that allows a user to respond to the message directly from the Internet interface. This format only includes the last four months, however. 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Files can be downloaded but have no search capabilities. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 18:14:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA06952 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:14:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:19:39 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes In-Reply-To: <199701072017.OAA37580@audumla.students.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You may want to contact Paul Hoffman at Garden Way in Troy, NY 518-235-6010. They manufacture Troy Bilt equipment (rototillers, sickle bar mowers chippers/shredders and switched to powdered paint technology. There are cases studies available on this. Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Phillip J. Annis wrote: > Chris > > I don't think you will find many if any case studies on crane mfgs using > powder coating. The size of assembly, subassemblies and thickness of metal > to be coated makes it difficult to powder coat such a beast. Through-put is > a problem for higher volume mfg's as well. However smaller parts or > components of a crane could likely be powder coated first then assembled, > perhaps followed by liquid spray touch-up. > > Don't over look the new liquid coating technologies as an option for this > company. We recently worked with a large crane mfg that put in a new > electrostatic system, computer controlled with low VOC paints. The system > uses much less paint, far less VOC emitted and line flush-gun cleaning > options on the new system have reduced clean-up solvent waste to very small > quantity generator levels. > > > At 11:29 AM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote: > >P2 Techers, > > > >We are working with a local medium-sized crane manufacturer that is > >examining powder coating as an alternative coating for their cranes. > > > >We have been unable to locate case studies of similar manufacturers of > >heavy, medium-sized cranes or machinery that are successfully powder > >coating their equipment. > > > >Any leads on case studies would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > >Chris Schroeder > >Pollution Prevention > >Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department > > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 16 18:25:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA07745 for p2tech-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:25:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:30:21 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Incinerator Ash In-Reply-To: <9700108529.AA852914544@ccmail.rustei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I used to work for Chesner Engineering in Commack NY that was involved in ash reuse projects such as using ash as an aggregate material for paving applications and for use in cement block used in reefs to protect shores from erosion . Contact Warren Chesner at 516-499-1085. Also The state university of NY at Stony Brook Marine Science Research Center, Contact Frank Roethel at 516-632-8732 worked with Warren on various reuse projects. Warren also sponsors a 3 day conference on ash in washington. On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 jerry_murphy@ccmail.rustei.com wrote: > Does anybody have any experience with alternative uses of ash from > municipal solid waste (MSW) incinerators? We would like to be able to > site examples of ways to save money by recycling the ash instead of > landfilling. > > > Jerry Murphy > Rust Environment & Infrastructure > Charleston, South Carolina > > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 10:32:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA12159 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:32:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 10:29:15 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: cleaning asphalt equipment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi all! Does anyone have any information on better ways to clean asphalt trucks and related equipment? The common practice here is to use kerosene, some folks even use diesel fuel. There's gotta be a better way. Thanks once again! Andrea K. Farrell Manager Pollution Prevention Program DNREC P.O. Box 1401, 89 Kings Hwy. Dover, DE 19903 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 FAX afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 12:05:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA19565 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:05:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:11:09 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: great lakes p2tech Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I appolize if this was sent already but I got a message this was undeliverable. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:19:39 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Powder Coating Cranes You may want to contact Paul Hoffman at Garden Way in Troy, NY 518-235-6010. They manufacture Troy Bilt equipment (rototillers, sickle bar mowers chippers/shredders and switched to powdered paint technology. There are cases studies available on this. Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Phillip J. Annis wrote: > Chris > > I don't think you will find many if any case studies on crane mfgs using > powder coating. The size of assembly, subassemblies and thickness of metal > to be coated makes it difficult to powder coat such a beast. Through-put is > a problem for higher volume mfg's as well. However smaller parts or > components of a crane could likely be powder coated first then assembled, > perhaps followed by liquid spray touch-up. > > Don't over look the new liquid coating technologies as an option for this > company. We recently worked with a large crane mfg that put in a new > electrostatic system, computer controlled with low VOC paints. The system > uses much less paint, far less VOC emitted and line flush-gun cleaning > options on the new system have reduced clean-up solvent waste to very small > quantity generator levels. > > > At 11:29 AM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote: > >P2 Techers, > > > >We are working with a local medium-sized crane manufacturer that is > >examining powder coating as an alternative coating for their cranes. > > > >We have been unable to locate case studies of similar manufacturers of > >heavy, medium-sized cranes or machinery that are successfully powder > >coating their equipment. > > > >Any leads on case studies would be greatly appreciated! > > > > > >Chris Schroeder > >Pollution Prevention > >Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department > > > > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 12:12:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA20158 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:12:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:18:02 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: great lakes p2tech Subject: Re: Incinerator Ash (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I appologize if this was sent already. I got a message this was undeliverable ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:30:21 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Incinerator Ash I used to work for Chesner Engineering in Commack NY that was involved in ash reuse projects such as using ash as an aggregate material for paving applications and for use in cement block used in reefs to protect shores from erosion . Contact Warren Chesner at 516-499-1085. Also The state university of NY at Stony Brook Marine Science Research Center, Contact Frank Roethel at 516-632-8732 worked with Warren on various reuse projects. There has been alot of research in this area. Warren also sponsors a 3 day conference on ash in washington. Judy Jakobsen, SCWA P2 Program On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 jerry_murphy@ccmail.rustei.com wrote: > Does anybody have any experience with alternative uses of ash from > municipal solid waste (MSW) incinerators? We would like to be able to > site examples of ways to save money by recycling the ash instead of > landfilling. > > > Jerry Murphy > Rust Environment & Infrastructure > Charleston, South Carolina > > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 12:15:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA20359 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:15:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BC0457.51DDFDA0@DAVID> From: dleviten@pprc.org (David Leviten) To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:15:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC0457.51DF8440" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC0457.51DF8440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The April-May 1996 issue of our newsletter Pollution Prevention = Northwest has a feature article on employee involvement that showcases = several companies efforts in this area. You can few a text version of = the newsletter at the website: = http://pprc.pnl.gov/pprc/pubs/newslets/newslett.html Hope this helps! And sorry for the slow response. David Leviten Pacific NW Pollution Prevention Resource Center Seattle, WA dleviten@pprc.org http://pprc.pnl.gov/pprc ---------- From: List Manager Sent: Monday, January 06, 1997 6:26 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: (R. Thomas Griffin) to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 Employee Incentive Programs =20 P2 Tech-sters: =20 I've forwarded the attached question from one of our colleagues. Please = respond directly to her if you can help, but copy me at=20 "rtgriffin@DEQ.state.va.us" Thanks, Tom Griffin, VA DEQ -------------------------- [Original Message] = ------------------------- =20 I am interested in hearing about Pollution Prevention Employee Incentive = Programs being used by private businesses or public institutions that=20 have been used successfully to eliminate pollutants, to reduce waste,=20 etc. If you know of any publications that describe the essence of such=20 programs or if you have first hand knowledge of such a program, I would=20 like to hear from you. Please respond to me via email, telephone, or=20 fax as shown below. Thanks, Marolyn J. 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Farrell" Cc: "'P2TECH'" Subject: RE: cleaning asphalt equipment Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:22:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Andrea, A few products come to mind. One is to use a mixture of highly refined distillate and d-limonene. This should work the same as the kerosene and diesel fuel currently being used but without all the nastys such as BTEX. This solvent has a flash point greater than 140 F so the waste solvent does not have to be handled as a RCRA flammable waste. I'm not sure on the specifics, but it might be possible to reuse the waste solvent in the making of more asphalt. Another product you can try is "Super Slip." Its an aqueous detergent solution that is very slippery and prevents the sticking of asphalt to metal surfaces. I believe its main component is emulsified silicone oil. The City of Los Angeles Street Maintenance crews use it for cleaning. An advantage over diesel fuel is that if some of it drips onto freshly poured asphalt, it does not inhibit the curing process. Diesel fuel will prevent the asphalt from curing which results in a quick return of the pot hole. I don't have a contact, but you can try Donna Toy-Chin at the City of LA Hazardous and Toxic Materials Office (213) 580-1079. My last solution is untested and untried, but who knows? At the time we did the assessment of the LA Asphalt Plant (@1992), we identified a company who was marketing a low stick anti-graffiti coating material. Its so slick that paint will not stick to it. We suggested that the city coat the beds of their trucks so that clean-up could be done with nothing more than a high pressure hose. This option didn't proceed since the city did not own many of the trucks being cleaned. I don't know if the company is still around, but it was Superior Environmental Products (214) 620-1728. Regards, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com Andrea Farrell To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: cleaning asphalt equipment Date: Friday, January 17, 1997 7:29AM Hi all! Does anyone have any information on better ways to clean asphalt trucks and related equipment? The common practice here is to use kerosene, some folks even use diesel fuel. There's gotta be a better way. Thanks once again! Andrea K. Farrell Manager Pollution Prevention Program DNREC P.O. Box 1401, 89 Kings Hwy. Dover, DE 19903 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 FAX afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 13:40:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA26445 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:40:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701171840.AA22001@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: Chicken Dinner For Alligators/Crocs and Carnivores Date: Fri Jan 17 11:27:20 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm Back!!!! By now, you probably are thinking that I don't have anything else good to do at work but to dwell on irrelevant things. Hopefully, for the time being, this will concluded my indulgence or philosophical pursuits into the unknown universe or limits of human perception. Regarding the idea that was suggested of using alligators (or other animals, depending on the characteristics of the habitat or location), I made a few estimates regarding the number of alligators needed, based on rate of 30 tonnes of expired chickens per week. Of course, my assumptions are open to debate or discussion. The experts can correct me here. Assumptions: (1) Chicken Weight - 5 lbs. (per adult) (2) Alligator niche dimensions or "breathing space" - 625 sq ft (based on a pond/lake of square dimension, for simplicity (25 ft on each side) ofcourse, alligators are gregarious (3) Each alligator consumes 10 chickens each day. (4) Alligators are full-grown adults Conclusion: a minimum of 192 alligators are needed to consume chickens that expire at a rate of 1,920/day in a lake/pond (square) ecosystem having a minimum of 120,000 sq. ft. (346.4 ft on each side). Obviously, this is a simple, basic model and does not take into account all the variables that must be accounted for to sustain the system. Indeed these variables may not make this model cost-effective or workable. Some of these variables include: (1) Maintenance of the aquatic ecosystem (eg. BOD demands, algal growth, habitats demands of the other organisms living in the ecosystem, physical/chemical conditions of the water, potential pollution, etc.). (2) Characteristics of the local terrain or geology, weather, etc., and whether they are conducive to setting up a pond/lake. (3) Proximity to, and interaction with, pond/lake to other businesses and communities (4) Labor/funding needs/concerns. (5) Health concerns regarding transmissions of pathogens/diseases (eg. e-coli). (6) The viability of this system also can be affected by upstream activities (eg. P2) that lower chicken mortalities. For example, what is/are the cause(s) of chicken mortality. If too much heat is a concern, then why can't the owner look into getting a cooling/ventilation system installed. Why can't the size of the farm be expanded or improved to adequately accommodate the chickens, especially in view of what appears to be huge numbers of chickens. In my opinion, there would appear to be a significant economic lost ($3,840 chickens per day at $2.00 each) to the chicken farmer, enough to justify making changes to reduce mortalities. (7) If the alligators ecosystem is diverse, they may have/develop alternate food preferences. (8) What happens if the alligators are placed on the endangered species list, or if there is a drop in commercial demand for alligator products. (9) Alligators have a tendency to wander about, possibly attacking pets and humans, or pose safety and health risks. The same points also apply to other animal rendering systems. For example, if bears or raccoons are used instead of alligators, what would the effects be on the stability of the ecosystem or animal population size/dynamics if they are provided supplemental or unlimited food? I am not trying to downplay the alligator alternative, I think it sounds like a good idea, I just want to take this discussion one step further and concentrate on or point out the reality of the system and if it is indeed workable. See Ya!!! "Confucius Say..." "Man who sit on tack get point" Art Coleman Ohio EPA, Division of Hazardous Waste Management art_coleman@central.epa.ohio.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 14:34:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00407 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:34:10 -0500 (EST) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <32DFD415.1B4A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:33:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Green Seal Program References: <199701151634.LAA25923@zork.tiac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Tracy Walsh of Renew America said she would send me out a copy of their database which has both program and product awards included. When I get it, I'll let the group know any info on product awards. Thanks! Gerard Forgnone tgreiner wrote: > > ---Gerard Forgnone wrote------------------------- > > >Aren't there any awards or non-profit organization recommendations that > >a manufacturer with a commercial product with demonstrable environmental > >benefits can turn to for help in getting the word out about the > >problem? I have identified an easily and cheaply solved environmental > >problem, but I don't have the enormous advertising budget it takes to > >let the world know about it. > > > > Try Tracy Walsh of Renew America in Washington DC > 202-232-2252 > Renew America gives awards for Programs, not products but they do have a > list of programs that give awards for products (if that makes sense). > > Tim > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Timothy J. Greiner MBA, MCP > Greiner Environmental > 2 Emily Lane > Gloucester, MA 01930 > tel: 508-525-2214 > fax: 508-525-2247 > e-mail: tgreiner@tiac.net > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 14:39:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00679 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:39:21 -0500 (EST) From: EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:42:29 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 and the Livestock Industry Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear P2tech list: Hi! We are looking for information (reports, checklists, fact sheets) on preventative measures that can be used to reduce odors and waste from livestock operations, in particular large scale confined hog or swine production facilities. Please respond or contact me directly at 217.785.1639 or by E-mail: EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us Thanks in Advance Emmett George, Intern. Office of Pollution Prevention Illinois Environmental Protection Agency. From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 14:45:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA01131 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:45:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:44:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701171944.OAA18927@lucius.ultra.net> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Chickens and alligators Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Art Coleman requests a realistic perspective at the alligator as waste management technology for a chicken farm. I saw an alligator compound in the Florida Everglades, and I never saw a more surreal facility. 150 gators of all sizes, mostly big, behind a chain link enclosure. All were healthy, fat, and stationary - waiting for those chickens to be tossed over the fence. Then all heck broke loose and we tourists found ourselves emitting a collective gasp while birdlegging it backwards a few steps. The pond, oh yes. It didn't look too clean, and I can promise you nothing else was moving in it. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org Check out the NBEN interactive site at http://www.nben.org and... P2Gems, a web search tool at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 15:40:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA05156 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:40:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701172040.AA12877@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: Chicken Dinner For Alligators/Crocs and Carnivores Date: Fri Jan 17 15:35:48 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm Back!!!! By now, you probably are thinking that I don't have anything else good to do at work but to dwell on irrelevant things. Hopefully, for the time being, this will concluded my indulgence or philosophical pursuits into the unknown universe or limits of human perception. Regarding the idea that was suggested of using alligators (or other animals, depending on the characteristics of the habitat or location), I made a few estimates regarding the number of alligators needed, based on rate of 30 tonnes of expired chickens per week. Of course, my assumptions are open to debate or discussion. The experts can correct me here. Assumptions: (1) Chicken Weight - 5 lbs. (per adult) (2) Alligator niche dimensions or "breathing space" - 625 sq ft (based on a pond/lake of square dimension, for simplicity (25 ft on each side) ofcourse, alligators are gregarious (3) Each alligator consumes 10 chickens each day. (4) Alligators are full-grown adults Conclusion: a minimum of 192 alligators are needed to consume chickens that expire at a rate of 1,920/day in a lake/pond (square) ecosystem having a minimum of 120,000 sq. ft. (346.4 ft on each side). Obviously, this is a simple, basic model and does not take into account all the variables that must be accounted for to sustain the system. Indeed these variables may not make this model cost-effective or workable. Some of these variables include: (1) Maintenance of the aquatic ecosystem (eg. BOD demands, algal growth, habitats demands of the other organisms living in the ecosystem, physical/chemical conditions of the water, potential pollution, etc.). (2) Characteristics of the local terrain or geology, weather, etc., and whether they are conducive to setting up a pond/lake. (3) Proximity to, and interaction with, pond/lake to other businesses and communities (4) Labor/funding needs/concerns. (5) Health concerns regarding transmissions of pathogens/diseases (eg. e-coli). (6) The viability of this system also can be affected by upstream activities (eg. P2) that lower chicken mortalities. For example, what is/are the cause(s) of chicken mortality. If too much heat is a concern, then why can't the owner look into getting a cooling/ventilation system installed. Why can't the size of the farm be expanded or improved to adequately accommodate the chickens, especially in view of what appears to be huge numbers of chickens. In my opinion, there would appear to be a significant economic lost ($3,840 chickens per day at $2.00 each) to the chicken farmer, enough to justify making changes to reduce mortalities. (7) If the alligators ecosystem is diverse, they may have/develop alternate food preferences. (8) What happens if the alligators are placed on the endangered species list, or if there is a drop in commercial demand for alligator products. (9) Alligators have a tendency to wander about, possibly attacking pets and humans, or pose safety and health risks. The same points also apply to other animal rendering systems. For example, if bears or raccoons are used instead of alligators, what would the effects be on the stability of the ecosystem or animal population size/dynamics if they are provided supplemental or unlimited food? I am not trying to downplay the alligator alternative, I think it sounds like a good idea, I just want to take this discussion one step further and concentrate on or point out the reality of the system and if it is indeed workable. See Ya!!! "Confucius Say..." "Man who sit on tack get point" Art Coleman Ohio EPA, Division of Hazardous Waste Management art_coleman@central.epa.ohio.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 15:40:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA05177 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) From: Pat_Gallagher@nmenv.state.nm.us Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 13:35:05 mst Message-Id: <9701171835.AA00162@eidhub.nmenv.state.nm.us> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Chicken?Little! Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message: Please forgive my indiscretion here by not following protocol and misusing P2 tech, but I simply can't help myself. After reviewing Art Coleman's most recent analysis, I for one would like to nominate him for a "Pullet-Zer" prize! Okay, it is the Friday before a three day weekend..Pat Gallagher From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 16:33:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA09330 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:33:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 17 Jan 1997 13:32:13 PST From: "DAVE HARTLEY" Subject: Chicken Dinner For Alligators/Crocs and Carnivores To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Comment: HW1 DHARTLEY 01/17/97 13:32:09 HW1SSW1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Office of Pollution Prevention and Technology Development Like Pat Gallagher, I can't hold back any longer!!! I have only one question for Art Coleman: Which comes first the chicken or the alligator??? Have a wonderful weekend! * Dave Hartley ** Phone (916) 324-1815 * * DTSC/OPPTD ** Fax (916) 327-4494 * * P.O. Box 806 ** E-Mail Address: * * Sacramento, Ca. 95812-0806 ** HW1.DHARTLEY@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV * *** Forwarding note from P2TECH --HW1SMTP 01/17/97 12:55 *** From: Art Coleman To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net Subject: Chicken Dinner For Alligators/Crocs and Carnivores Sender's Nativename=p2tech@GREAT-LAKES.NET I'm Back!!!! By now, you probably are thinking that I don't have anything else good to do at work but to dwell on irrelevant things. Hopefully, for the time being, this will concluded my indulgence or philosophical pursuits into the unknown universe or limits of human perception. Regarding the idea that was suggested of using alligators (or other animals, depending on the characteristics of the habitat or location), I made a few estimates regarding the number of alligators needed, based on rate of 30 tonnes of expired chickens per week. Of course, my assumptions are open to debate or discussion. The experts can correct me here. Assumptions: (1) Chicken Weight - 5 lbs. (per adult) (2) Alligator niche dimensions or "breathing space" - 625 sq ft (based on a pond/lake of square dimension, for simplicity (25 ft on each side) ofcourse, alligators are gregarious (3) Each alligator consumes 10 chickens each day. (4) Alligators are full-grown adults Conclusion: a minimum of 192 alligators are needed to consume chickens that expire at a rate of 1,920/day in a lake/pond (square) ecosystem having a minimum of 120,000 sq. ft. (346.4 ft on each side). Obviously, this is a simple, basic model and does not take into account all the variables that must be accounted for to sustain the system. Indeed these variables may not make this model cost-effective or workable. Some of these variables include: (1) Maintenance of the aquatic ecosystem (eg. BOD demands, algal growth, habitats demands of the other organisms living in the ecosystem, physical/chemical conditions of the water, potential pollution, etc.). (2) Characteristics of the local terrain or geology, weather, etc., and whether they are conducive to setting up a pond/lake. (3) Proximity to, and interaction with, pond/lake to other businesses and communities (4) Labor/funding needs/concerns. (5) Health concerns regarding transmissions of pathogens/diseases (eg. e-coli). (6) The viability of this system also can be affected by upstream activities (eg. P2) that lower chicken mortalities. For example, what is/are the cause(s) of chicken mortality. If too much heat is a concern, then why can't the owner look into getting a cooling/ventilation system installed. Why can't the size of the farm be expanded or improved to adequately accommodate the chickens, especially in view of what appears to be huge numbers of chickens. In my opinion, there would appear to be a significant economic lost ($3,840 chickens per day at $2.00 each) to the chicken farmer, enough to justify making changes to reduce mortalities. (7) If the alligators ecosystem is diverse, they may have/develop alternate food preferences. (8) What happens if the alligators are placed on the endangered species list, or if there is a drop in commercial demand for alligator products. (9) Alligators have a tendency to wander about, possibly attacking pets and humans, or pose safety and health risks. The same points also apply to other animal rendering systems. For example, if bears or raccoons are used instead of alligators, what would the effects be on the stability of the ecosystem or animal population size/dynamics if they are provided supplemental or unlimited food? I am not trying to downplay the alligator alternative, I think it sounds like a good idea, I just want to take this discussion one step further and concentrate on or point out the reality of the system and if it is indeed workable. See Ya!!! "Confucius Say..." "Man who sit on tack get point" Art Coleman Ohio EPA, Division of Hazardous Waste Management art_coleman@central.epa.ohio.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 17 18:15:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA15872 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:15:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E02462.5217@ci.lincoln.ne.us> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:16:18 -0800 From: Air Lab Organization: Lincoln-Lancaster County Health X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 and the Livestock Industry References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us wrote: > > Dear P2tech list: > > Hi! > We are looking for information (reports, checklists, fact sheets) on > preventative measures that can be used to reduce odors and waste > from livestock operations, in particular large scale confined hog or swine > production facilities. > > Please respond or contact me directly at 217.785.1639 > or by E-mail: EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us > > Thanks in Advance > Emmett George, Intern. > Office of Pollution Prevention > Illinois Environmental Protection Agency. Emmett, I seem to remember from my Great Plains Forestry/Woody Plant class that wind breaks can be utilzed to control odors from livestock operations. The person you would want to contact is Dr. Brandle at the University of Nebraska at Lincoln. Sorry, that I don't have his phone number, but you should be able to obtain his phone number by calling (402) 472-7211. Chris Schroeder Pollution Prevention Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department Lincoln, NE From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 20 09:06:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA08429 for p2tech-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:06:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "'EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us'" Subject: RE: P2 and the Livestock Industry Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:05:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Emmet, you might take a look at the NC swine odor task force report (a whopping 40 pages). You can get this document on line at: http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/whpaper/SwineOdor.html Regards, Melissa ......................................... .......... Melissa Malkin Pollution Prevention Program Research Triangle Institute POB 12194. Research Triangle Park, N.C. 27709-2194 (ph) 919-541-6154 (fax) 919-541-7155 http://www.rti.org/units/ese/pp.html ..................................... .. >---------- > > >EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us wrote: >> >> Dear P2tech list: >> >> Hi! >> We are looking for information (reports, checklists, fact sheets) on >> preventative measures that can be used to reduce odors and waste >> from livestock operations, in particular large scale confined hog or swine >> production facilities. >> >> Please respond or contact me directly at 217.785.1639 >> or by E-mail: EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us >> >> Thanks in Advance >> Emmett George, Intern. >> Office of Pollution Prevention >> Illinois Environmental Protection Agency. > > From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 20 10:40:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA13541 for p2tech-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:40:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:39:47 -0600 From: KENNY D STEWARD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 and the Livestock Industry -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_DB8807F3.85E4894B" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_DB8807F3.85E4894B Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Emmett, You should contact: Greg Boggs Southwestern Public Service Company PO Box 1261 Amarillo, Texas 79170 (806) 378-2178 I am attaching an abstract concerning the use of fly ash as surfacing for pens. It concerns a partnership between SPS (the electric utility provider) and Heritage Beef Cattle (a cattle stockyard). It is in WordPerfect 6.1 format. If you need it in another format, let me know and I'll convert and mail! Thanks! Kenny Steward Pollution Prevention Pantex Plant >>> 01/17/97 01:42pm >>> Dear P2tech list: Hi! We are looking for information (reports, checklists, fact sheets) on preventative measures that can be used to reduce odors and waste from livestock operations, in particular large scale confined hog or swine production facilities. Please respond or contact me directly at 217.785.1639 or by E-mail: EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us Thanks in Advance Emmett George, Intern. Office of Pollution Prevention Illinois Environmental Protection Agency. --=_DB8807F3.85E4894B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from cedar.cic.net by interlock.pantex.com with SMTP id AA24831 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:28:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00679 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:39:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Sender: owner-p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:42:29 -0600 From: To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com, EPA8616%wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us@internet.pantex.com Subject: P2 and the Livestock Industry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Dear P2tech list: Hi! We are looking for information (reports, checklists, fact sheets) on preventative measures that can be used to reduce odors and waste from livestock operations, in particular large scale confined hog or swine production facilities. Please respond or contact me directly at 217.785.1639 or by E-mail: EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us Thanks in Advance Emmett George, Intern. 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Kievit-Kylar" Organization: VT Agency of Natural Resources To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:58:06 EST Subject: Re: Chickens and alligators X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <89AACDE3521@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:44:58 -0500 (EST) To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Chickens and alligators Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Art Coleman requests a realistic perspective at the alligator as waste management technology for a chicken farm. I saw an alligator compound in the Florida Everglades, and I never saw a more surreal facility. 150 gators of all sizes, mostly big, behind a chain link enclosure. All were healthy, fat, and stationary - waiting for those chickens to be tossed over the fence. Then all heck broke loose and we tourists found ourselves emitting a collective gasp while birdlegging it backwards a few steps. The pond, oh yes. It didn't look too clean, and I can promise you nothing else was moving in it. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Janet, Thanks for pursuing this one further and thanks also for your rather vivid depiction of this surreal, terrestrial feeding frenzy. I really couldn't even imagine this at the scale some of these chicken farms would require. I think I'll learn from this (once again) that prevention is the best answer. Reducing mortality offers the most sensical and most ethical way to solve the problem. I'd like to think that there's a closed-loop system that mimics the cycles of nature -- but things always get so complicated when we do things at a scale that satisfies economic goals at the expense of environmental and other goals. It becomes just another "take, make, waste" operation -- not very sustainable in the long run. Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner Vermont Agency of Natural Resources Environmental Assistance Division 103 South Main Street Waterbury VT 05671-0411 phone: (802) 241-3628 FAX: (802) 241-3273 e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us "Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." -- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 20 14:59:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00954 for p2tech-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:59:29 -0500 (EST) From: WRATT1PAG@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:58:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970120140450_173494601@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Sulfuric Acid Sludge from White Oil & Sodium Sulfonate Production Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net p2Techers: A process applies 22% Oleum to a petroleum product to eliminate aromatics, polycyclics, olefins; plus sulfur & nitrogen compounds. A sludge waste results that must be recovered, recycled, or reused, to protect the process economics. The Products are white oil(vaseline) & Sodium Sulfonate. I would appreciate any insights from your collective or individual experience. TIA Pete Goudreau, WRATT Foundation, 205-386-2605; Fax 205-386-2674 From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 20 16:11:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA05689 for p2tech-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:11:48 -0500 (EST) From: SoniHiten@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:10:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970120160957_580166209@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 and the Livestock Industry Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I put together two large folders worth of information on the very subject. I am in chicago ask keri for my number. you are welcome to use any infomation you fee useful. Hiten soni IPCB From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 20 17:37:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA11635 for p2tech-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 17:37:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 17:37:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701202237.RAA02108@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: DOT line painting operations Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Folks, I had a tough site visit the other day at one of our NH DOT facilities and was wondering if anyone could help me out. Apparently, NH DOT has been one of the leaders (at least in New England) as far as the conversion from toluene based traffic paint to water-based/lead-free paints. As one might expect, there are many benefits associated with the switch, but also, as I have heard, a lot of headaches too - wastewater, shorter painting season, less forgiving coating, etc... Some problems experienced: 1. The water-based paint (delivered in 300 gallon totes) has been full of flakes and has been clogging the various hoses and strainers on the paint trucks. The clogging used to occur in the lines on the paint truck. Staff recently put prefilters in place that allowed flakes to be caught closer to the totes during loading. This causes lots of downtime and creates perhaps the largest problem: Clean-up 2. Due to the nature of the water-based paint, all paint transfer lines and fittings must be cleaned daily. The old solvent based paint did not require such cleanup, and the lines could usually be cleaned with a small amount of solvent. As one might suspect, there is a lot of wastewater to deal with. This facility is not on the sewer system and was, up until fairly recently, washing the paint into a drain in the yard. In fact, all paint transfers and truck cleanups were done outside on a large cement pad. We are talking about a lot of paint here. 200,000 gallons per year. The facility is no longer allowed to pump the paint into the paint trucks out of doors (because the current setup would allow spills to go directly into the drain) and cannot perform outdoor paint clean up. Nor can they wash any of the other vehicles in their fleet. All of these issues have to be resolved well before the water-based painting season begins (if we are lucky) in April. It is my opinion, and that of the DOT staff, that they are going to have to spend some cash to build a contained/covered pad that will allow them to capture and hopefully reuse washwater. Rumor has it that keeping the totes out of the sun (and working with a vendor that actually cleans out the returned totes) will reduce the flaking and clogging issues. Anyway... I was wondering if anyone has worked with their DOT on similar issues? Any contacts you could send my way? Any thoughts on options for this operation? Any wash water recycling units or systems that you might be aware of? How about work done with paint formulators? I would think that the wash water issue would be something near and dear to the formulators themselves? Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A Thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 20 18:54:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA15620 for p2tech-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:54:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Callahan, Mike" To: Vince Perelli Cc: "'P2TECH'" Subject: RE: DOT line painting operations Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:43:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Vince, The City of Los Angeles DoT converted much of its painting operations over to the use of thermoplastic resin. The resin is heated to its molten state and then applied to the street for lane marking. Since it is not sprayed, there are no overspray emissions. VOC emissions are very low. The one downside to this technique is that it is limited to flat surfaces. Curbs are out. The DoT did try to use water-based paints but they found that the performance was not as good (i.e., more waste due to more frequent need for painting). You may be able to get a contact name from Donna Toy-Chin at the City of LA Hazardous and Toxic Materials Office (213) 580-1079. BTY, paint flakes in the tote bins shows really poor quality control. If you must use totes, consider using ones with a collapsable inner liner. This will prevent skin formation due to contact with air. Nitrogen padding is another option. I think Ford used a similar system when switching to paint totes several years ago. The Society of Manufacturing Engineers (SME) should have some reference material available. Regards, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com ---------- From: Vince Perelli To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: DOT line painting operations Date: Monday, January 20, 1997 2:37PM Hi Folks, I had a tough site visit the other day at one of our NH DOT facilities and was wondering if anyone could help me out. Apparently, NH DOT has been one of the leaders (at least in New England) as far as the conversion from toluene based traffic paint to water-based/lead-free paints. As one might expect, there are many benefits associated with the switch, but also, as I have heard, a lot of headaches too - wastewater, shorter painting season, less forgiving coating, etc... Some problems experienced: 1. The water-based paint (delivered in 300 gallon totes) has been full of flakes and has been clogging the various hoses and strainers on the paint trucks. The clogging used to occur in the lines on the paint truck. Staff recently put prefilters in place that allowed flakes to be caught closer to the totes during loading. This causes lots of downtime and creates perhaps the largest problem: Clean-up 2. Due to the nature of the water-based paint, all paint transfer lines and fittings must be cleaned daily. The old solvent based paint did not require such cleanup, and the lines could usually be cleaned with a small amount of solvent. As one might suspect, there is a lot of wastewater to deal with. This facility is not on the sewer system and was, up until fairly recently, washing the paint into a drain in the yard. In fact, all paint transfers and truck cleanups were done outside on a large cement pad. We are talking about a lot of paint here. 200,000 gallons per year. The facility is no longer allowed to pump the paint into the paint trucks out of doors (because the current setup would allow spills to go directly into the drain) and cannot perform outdoor paint clean up. Nor can they wash any of the other vehicles in their fleet. All of these issues have to be resolved well before the water-based painting season begins (if we are lucky) in April. It is my opinion, and that of the DOT staff, that they are going to have to spend some cash to build a contained/covered pad that will allow them to capture and hopefully reuse washwater. Rumor has it that keeping the totes out of the sun (and working with a vendor that actually cleans out the returned totes) will reduce the flaking and clogging issues. Anyway... I was wondering if anyone has worked with their DOT on similar issues? Any contacts you could send my way? Any thoughts on options for this operation? Any wash water recycling units or systems that you might be aware of? How about work done with paint formulators? I would think that the wash water issue would be something near and dear to the formulators themselves? Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A Thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 20 22:04:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id WAA23906 for p2tech-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:04:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Cornstubble, Dean R." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: DOT line painting operations Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:03:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Question: Why switch to a water-based paint at all? Are there no higher-solids solvent-borne coatings on the market that could suffice? It seems that if the DOT is interested in year-round application of their traffic paints that they would want a product that was durable enough to be applied in cold temperatures and under rainy conditions. There are some companies that do produce these types of products. They are, of course, small businesses. Also, are the flakes in the paint coming from premature coalescence of resin particles due to freezing temperatures? If you have any comment on this, please let me know. If you do generate a beneficial solution, please share it with us so we can learn how to avoid such a situation in future assessments. >---------- >From: Vince Perelli[SMTP:perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com] >Sent: Monday, January 20, 1997 5:37 PM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: DOT line painting operations > >Hi Folks, > >I had a tough site visit the other day at one of our NH DOT facilities and >was wondering if anyone could help me out. Apparently, NH DOT has been one >of the leaders (at least in New England) as far as the conversion from >toluene based traffic paint to water-based/lead-free paints. As one might >expect, there are many benefits associated with the switch, but also, as I >have heard, a lot of headaches too - wastewater, shorter painting season, >less forgiving coating, etc... > >Some problems experienced: > >1. The water-based paint (delivered in 300 gallon totes) has been full of >flakes and has been clogging the various hoses and strainers on the paint >trucks. The clogging used to occur in the lines on the paint truck. Staff >recently put prefilters in place that allowed flakes to be caught closer to >the totes during loading. This causes lots of downtime and creates perhaps >the largest problem: Clean-up > >2. Due to the nature of the water-based paint, all paint transfer lines and >fittings must be cleaned daily. The old solvent based paint did not require >such cleanup, and the lines could usually be cleaned with a small amount of >solvent. As one might suspect, there is a lot of wastewater to deal with. >This facility is not on the sewer system and was, up until fairly recently, >washing the paint into a drain in the yard. In fact, all paint transfers >and truck cleanups were done outside on a large cement pad. We are talking >about a lot of paint here. 200,000 gallons per year. > >The facility is no longer allowed to pump the paint into the paint trucks >out of doors (because the current setup would allow spills to go directly >into the drain) and cannot perform outdoor paint clean up. Nor can they >wash any of the other vehicles in their fleet. All of these issues have to >be resolved well before the water-based painting season begins (if we are >lucky) in April. > >It is my opinion, and that of the DOT staff, that they are going to have to >spend some cash to build a contained/covered pad that will allow them to >capture and hopefully reuse washwater. Rumor has it that keeping the totes >out of the sun (and working with a vendor that actually cleans out the >returned totes) will reduce the flaking and clogging issues. > >Anyway... I was wondering if anyone has worked with their DOT on similar >issues? Any contacts you could send my way? Any thoughts on options for >this operation? Any wash water recycling units or systems that you might be >aware of? How about work done with paint formulators? I would think that >the wash water issue would be something near and dear to the formulators >themselves? > >Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. > >Vince Perelli > >***************************************************** > >Vincent R. Perelli >New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services >Pollution Prevention Program >6 Hazen Drive >Concord, NH 03301-6509 >phone: 603 271-2902 >fax: 603 271-2456 >perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com > >A Thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility >of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new >patterns of >consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" > >****************************************************** > > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 04:27:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id EAA04744 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 04:27:34 -0500 (EST) From: Envcoalsea@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 04:19:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970121041951_2090840237@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Chicken Dinner For Alligators/Crocs and Carnivores Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net art seems to have a lot of time on his hands... From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 06:36:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id GAA07452 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 06:36:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701211135.GAA07355@cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 06:35:53 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Sulfuric Acid Sludge from White Oil & Sodium Sulfonate Production Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Pete Goudreau wrote: >p2Techers: > >A process applies 22% Oleum to a petroleum product to eliminate aromatics, >polycyclics, olefins; plus sulfur & nitrogen compounds. A sludge waste >results that must be recovered, recycled, or reused, to protect the process >economics. The Products are white oil(vaseline) & Sodium Sulfonate. > >I would appreciate any insights from your collective or individual >experience. >TIA > >Pete Goudreau, WRATT Foundation, >205-386-2605; Fax 205-386-2674 > There are a number of questions about the sludge which really would help any pollution prevention approach. First, what are its characteristics (broad sense) and composition (broad sense)? If it has a large sulfur content, reuse may be problematic. However, there are facilities which take sulfur bearing waste and recycle them to make sulfuric acid, although this is usually thought of as a waste management approach (i.e., incineration, with H2SO4 as a byproduct). Second, are there constituents that will cause regulatory problems, etc.? My experience is that about one-half of all good reuse and recycling ideas run into some regulatory difficulties, which is why I like prevention in the first place. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 08:33:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA11268 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:33:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Cornstubble, Dean R." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: Forum Web Site Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:32:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net My name is Dean Cornstubble and I work at Research Triangle Institute (RTI) in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. I work in the Pollution Prevention Program at RTI on projects to develop products that assist in reducing emissions from industrial processes, mainly the paint and coatings industry. This e-mail message was sent previously asking if anyone knew of a state government forum on the Internet for discussing established and upcoming Federal and/or state emissions regulations. If this type of web site does not exist, it would be nice to develop one or develop a conferencing option on the home web page for the National Pollution Prevention Roundtable. My purpose in asking about an established state government conferencing forum is based on an article published in the Environmental Policy Alert, dated July 3, 1996. The article is titled, "House Lawmakers Question Timing of Clean Air Paint Regulations." This article refers to the proposed Federal rule for controlling VOC emissions from architectural and industrial maintenance (AIM) coatings. What caught my attention in this article was the statement, "...while we understand that EPA views this rule as having limited small business impact, over 100 small paint manufacturers feel differently. In fact, many of these manufacturers claim their livelihood will be seriously harmed by this rule..." Also, in the January 1997 issue of Paint & Coatings Industry, Robert Wendoll of the Environmental Legislative and Regulatory Advocacy Program in southern California said, in response to the South Coast Air Quality Management District's (SCAQMD's) recently issued revisions of its Rule 1113 on VOCs in architectural coatings, that the district has, in effect, "told consumers they don't have the right to use paint that works; they have to use crap." These statements made me realize that small businesses need technical assistance and independent research to help them find solutions in meeting tough Federal and state regulations (such as the proposed AIM rule and the revisions to SCAQMD's Rule 1113). Instituting a state government conferencing forum would energize the States to discuss the problems their industries are having in meeting regulations and to share information concerning innovative solutions to solving those problems. If an Internet conferencing web site, or similar medium, does not exist, RTI's web page development specialists could create such a site. RTI has several state-of-the-art web site development technologies that could establish, manage, and maintain all conferencing exchanges (implementing security and confidentiality measures, of course). In addition, if states are looking for independent research to aid in their search for solutions to their common problems, RTI and RTI's Pollution Prevention Program is available to meet this need by providing a rich and solid network of research and development resources with the aim of identifying and demonstrating innovative pollution prevention technologies that reduce and/or eliminate VOC emissions. (Please refer to http://www.rti.org). One project I have been working on for small coatings users and state technical assistance programs is the development of an expert system and information base called the Coating Alternatives Guide (CAGE). Funded by the EPA's National Risk Management Research Laboratory, Air Pollution Prevention and Control Division, in Research Triangle Park, the guide evaluates the coating user's current coating process and recommends alternative low-emitting coating technologies that closely fit the user's process. In addition, it gives summarized information on various low-emitting alternatives extracted from several up-to-date industry-related literature references. CAGE is available in both MS-DOS and Internet versions. The MS-DOS version of CAGE (for metal parts) can be downloaded from the Internet Web site at: http://clean.rti.org/cage/download. CAGE is a simple yet effective tool for meeting the needs of small coatings users who are struggling to find solutions to meeting emissions regulations but neither have the time nor economic resources to invest in research endeavors. Products such as CAGE, would be extremely valuable to small businesses in many industries and would prove to be valuable to state government programs looking to solidify relations with small businesses. Once again, if you are aware of any conferencing Internet Web sites for state programs, please let me know. Thank you for your assistance. ---- Dean R. Cornstubble, Research Chemical Engineer "Research Triangle Institute - Research that meets needs" (919) 541-6813; Fax x-7155 (http://www.rti.org) Visit the Coating Alternatives Guide at http://clean.rti.org/cage. From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 08:47:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA12002 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:47:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:47:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701211347.IAA20737@cinna.ultra.net> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Re: Chickens and alligators Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > >Janet, > >Thanks for pursuing this one further and thanks also for your rather >vivid depiction of this surreal, terrestrial feeding frenzy. I really >couldn't even imagine this at the scale some of these chicken farms >would require. I think I'll learn from this (once again) that >prevention is the best answer. Reducing mortality offers the most >sensical and most ethical way to solve the problem. I'd like to think >that there's a closed-loop system that mimics the cycles of nature -- >but things always get so complicated when we do things at a scale >that satisfies economic goals at the expense of environmental and >other goals. It becomes just another "take, make, waste" operation -- >not very sustainable in the long run. > > >Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner >Vermont Agency of Natural Resources >Environmental Assistance Division >103 South Main Street >Waterbury VT 05671-0411 >phone: (802) 241-3628 >FAX: (802) 241-3273 >e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us >"Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." >-- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- > Hi Doug, I do favor closed systems that include live components, even if construed and cultivated. I am afraid that if animals don't have "practical" value, they will disappear from the landscape! Prevention and efficency first, then mimic the biosystem. Alligators? maybe but not in NE. And certainly not bears and raccoons! Did you ever visit the wolf park in Ipswich, MA? Not considering impounding another wolf pack, but we have plenty varieties of domestic feline and canids. Better to process dead chickens as commercial cat food, I guess. Thanks for you comments. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org Check out the NBEN interactive site at http://www.nben.org and... P2Gems, a web search tool at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 09:18:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA14209 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:18:37 -0500 (EST) From: krm@envirosense.com (Ken Monroe) To: Subject: Re: Forum Web Site Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:21:26 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970121141520.AAA4824@oeca2.com> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hey, hey!! No advertising in the list serves please!! ---------- > From: Cornstubble, Dean R. > To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' > Subject: Forum Web Site > Date: Tuesday, January 21, 1997 8:32 AM > > My name is Dean Cornstubble and I work at Research Triangle Institute > (RTI) in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. I work in the > Pollution Prevention Program at RTI on projects to develop products that > assist in reducing emissions from industrial processes, mainly the paint > and coatings industry. > > This e-mail message was sent previously asking if anyone knew of a state > government forum on the Internet for discussing established and upcoming > Federal and/or state emissions regulations. If this type of web site > does not exist, it would be nice to develop one or develop a > conferencing option on the home web page for the National Pollution > Prevention Roundtable. > > My purpose in asking about an established state government conferencing > forum is based on an article published in the Environmental Policy > Alert, dated July 3, 1996. The article is titled, "House Lawmakers > Question Timing of Clean Air Paint Regulations." This article refers to > the proposed Federal rule for controlling VOC emissions from > architectural and industrial maintenance (AIM) coatings. What caught my > attention in this article was the statement, "...while we understand > that EPA views this rule as having limited small business impact, over > 100 small paint manufacturers feel differently. In fact, many of these > manufacturers claim their livelihood will be seriously harmed by this > rule..." Also, in the January 1997 issue of Paint & Coatings Industry, > Robert Wendoll of the Environmental Legislative and Regulatory Advocacy > Program in southern California said, in response to the South Coast Air > Quality Management District's (SCAQMD's) recently issued revisions of > its Rule 1113 on VOCs in architectural coatings, that the district has, > in effect, "told consumers they don't have the right to use paint that > works; they have to use crap." > > These statements made me realize that small businesses need technical > assistance and independent research to help them find solutions in > meeting tough Federal and state regulations (such as the proposed AIM > rule and the revisions to SCAQMD's Rule 1113). Instituting a state > government conferencing forum would energize the States to discuss the > problems their industries are having in meeting regulations and to share > information concerning innovative solutions to solving those problems. > > If an Internet conferencing web site, or similar medium, does not exist, > RTI's web page development specialists could create such a site. RTI > has several state-of-the-art web site development technologies that > could establish, manage, and maintain all conferencing exchanges > (implementing security and confidentiality measures, of course). In > addition, if states are looking for independent research to aid in their > search for solutions to their common problems, RTI and RTI's Pollution > Prevention Program is available to meet this need by providing a rich > and solid network of research and development resources with the aim of > identifying and demonstrating innovative pollution prevention > technologies that reduce and/or eliminate VOC emissions. (Please refer > to http://www.rti.org). > > One project I have been working on for small coatings users and state > technical assistance programs is the development of an expert system and > information base called the Coating Alternatives Guide (CAGE). Funded > by the EPA's National Risk Management Research Laboratory, Air Pollution > Prevention and Control Division, in Research Triangle Park, the guide > evaluates the coating user's current coating process and recommends > alternative low-emitting coating technologies that closely fit the > user's process. In addition, it gives summarized information on various > low-emitting alternatives extracted from several up-to-date > industry-related literature references. CAGE is available in both > MS-DOS and Internet versions. The MS-DOS version of CAGE (for metal > parts) can be downloaded from the Internet Web site at: > http://clean.rti.org/cage/download. CAGE is a simple yet effective tool > for meeting the needs of small coatings users who are struggling to find > solutions to meeting emissions regulations but neither have the time nor > economic resources to invest in research endeavors. Products such as > CAGE, would be extremely valuable to small businesses in many industries > and would prove to be valuable to state government programs looking to > solidify relations with small businesses. > > Once again, if you are aware of any conferencing Internet Web sites for > state programs, please let me know. > > Thank you for your assistance. > ---- > Dean R. Cornstubble, Research Chemical Engineer > "Research Triangle Institute - Research that meets needs" > (919) 541-6813; Fax x-7155 (http://www.rti.org) > Visit the Coating Alternatives Guide at http://clean.rti.org/cage. From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 09:44:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA16039 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:44:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:44:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701211444.JAA16039@cedar.cic.net> From: Thomas Vinson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone have any information, tips, or comments regarding Pollution Prevention from coal fired electric generation plants? From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 10:53:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA22078 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:53:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:52:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701211552.KAA11474@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TVINSON@tnrcc.state.tx.us From: Vince Perelli Subject: P2 for coal powered power plants Cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Thomas, I have been working with Rob Leatherbee and Ron Tetu on many collaborative projects over the last two years, and I thinks that they both could be a wealth of knowledge for you as far as P2 for coal-fired power plants and electric utilities in general. They are with Public Service Company of NH - PO Box 330, Manchester, NH 03105. Ron's number is 603/634-2494. Rob's number is 603/634-2458. Hope this is helpful to you. Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 11:11:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA24034 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:11:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:10:21 -30000 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: (R. Thomas Griffin) Subject: re: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants X-Incognito-SN: 648 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01 ENCRYPTED=NO Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In 1994, our office produced a manual entitled, "Cogeneration of Steam and Electric Power: P2 Opportunities and Options", which specifically addresses pollution prevention opportunities for coal-fired electric generation. Please provide your address, and we will send you a copy. Thanks. Tom Griffin Virginia Department of Environmental Quality Office of Pollution Prevention 804-698-4545 "rtgriffin@deq.state.va.us" From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 11:23:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA25019 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:23:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary J. Gulka" Organization: VT Agency of Natural Resources To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:23:06 EST Subject: Re: DOT line painting operations X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <8B317FB13F3@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Vince, In response to your traffic paint questions, I refer you to the Vermont Agency of Transportation which is also progressing quite rapidly toward complete conversion to latex traffic paints. The Agency of Transportation has a very progressive environmental management program, especially related to vehicle and fleet maintenance. The contact is: George Combes AOT Central Garage Drawer 33 Berlin, VT 05633-5001 (802) 828-2564 I am aware that a filter was necessary before the loading pump in order to take care of the paint chunks or flakes. By this spring, AOT will completely into water-borne traffic paints. This facility is sewered, but I am not aware of any significant volume of wastewater needing disposal. Other than the slow drying times and getting paint on passing cars, there have not been any insurmountable problems in the conversion. Gary Gulka Environmental Assistance Division 103 South Main Street Waterbury, VT 05671-0404 (802) 241-3626 garyg@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 17:37:21 -0500 (EST) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: DOT line painting operations Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Folks, I had a tough site visit the other day at one of our NH DOT facilities and was wondering if anyone could help me out. Apparently, NH DOT has been one of the leaders (at least in New England) as far as the conversion from toluene based traffic paint to water-based/lead-free paints. As one might expect, there are many benefits associated with the switch, but also, as I have heard, a lot of headaches too - wastewater, shorter painting season, less forgiving coating, etc... Some problems experienced: 1. The water-based paint (delivered in 300 gallon totes) has been full of flakes and has been clogging the various hoses and strainers on the paint trucks. The clogging used to occur in the lines on the paint truck. Staff recently put prefilters in place that allowed flakes to be caught closer to the totes during loading. This causes lots of downtime and creates perhaps the largest problem: Clean-up 2. Due to the nature of the water-based paint, all paint transfer lines and fittings must be cleaned daily. The old solvent based paint did not require such cleanup, and the lines could usually be cleaned with a small amount of solvent. As one might suspect, there is a lot of wastewater to deal with. This facility is not on the sewer system and was, up until fairly recently, washing the paint into a drain in the yard. In fact, all paint transfers and truck cleanups were done outside on a large cement pad. We are talking about a lot of paint here. 200,000 gallons per year. The facility is no longer allowed to pump the paint into the paint trucks out of doors (because the current setup would allow spills to go directly into the drain) and cannot perform outdoor paint clean up. Nor can they wash any of the other vehicles in their fleet. All of these issues have to be resolved well before the water-based painting season begins (if we are lucky) in April. It is my opinion, and that of the DOT staff, that they are going to have to spend some cash to build a contained/covered pad that will allow them to capture and hopefully reuse washwater. Rumor has it that keeping the totes out of the sun (and working with a vendor that actually cleans out the returned totes) will reduce the flaking and clogging issues. Anyway... I was wondering if anyone has worked with their DOT on similar issues? Any contacts you could send my way? Any thoughts on options for this operation? Any wash water recycling units or systems that you might be aware of? How about work done with paint formulators? I would think that the wash water issue would be something near and dear to the formulators themselves? Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A Thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 12:32:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA00710 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:32:06 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:24:30 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:20:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: COAL FIRED GENERATING STATIONS To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:24:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D25ZWREHQAQZ X400-Mts-Identifier: [;03422112107991/490548@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net FROM: R. Illig RE: Coal Fired Generating Stations Could you please provide greater detail on the aspects of such facilities inwhich you are interested? Ric From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 13:08:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA03621 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:08:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Cornstubble, Dean R." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Forum Web Site Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:08:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Your right. It won't happen again. By the way, do you know of a place or medium I am referring to? If not, you don't respond. >---------- >From: krm@envirosense.com[SMTP:krm@envirosense.com] >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 1997 9:21 AM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Re: Forum Web Site > >Hey, hey!! No advertising in the list serves please!! > >---------- >> From: Cornstubble, Dean R. >> To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' >> Subject: Forum Web Site >> Date: Tuesday, January 21, 1997 8:32 AM >> >> My name is Dean Cornstubble and I work at Research Triangle Institute >> (RTI) in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. I work in the >> Pollution Prevention Program at RTI on projects to develop products that >> assist in reducing emissions from industrial processes, mainly the paint >> and coatings industry. >> >> This e-mail message was sent previously asking if anyone knew of a state >> government forum on the Internet for discussing established and upcoming >> Federal and/or state emissions regulations. If this type of web site >> does not exist, it would be nice to develop one or develop a >> conferencing option on the home web page for the National Pollution >> Prevention Roundtable. >> >> My purpose in asking about an established state government conferencing >> forum is based on an article published in the Environmental Policy >> Alert, dated July 3, 1996. The article is titled, "House Lawmakers >> Question Timing of Clean Air Paint Regulations." This article refers to >> the proposed Federal rule for controlling VOC emissions from >> architectural and industrial maintenance (AIM) coatings. What caught my >> attention in this article was the statement, "...while we understand >> that EPA views this rule as having limited small business impact, over >> 100 small paint manufacturers feel differently. In fact, many of these >> manufacturers claim their livelihood will be seriously harmed by this >> rule..." Also, in the January 1997 issue of Paint & Coatings Industry, >> Robert Wendoll of the Environmental Legislative and Regulatory Advocacy >> Program in southern California said, in response to the South Coast Air >> Quality Management District's (SCAQMD's) recently issued revisions of >> its Rule 1113 on VOCs in architectural coatings, that the district has, >> in effect, "told consumers they don't have the right to use paint that >> works; they have to use crap." >> >> These statements made me realize that small businesses need technical >> assistance and independent research to help them find solutions in >> meeting tough Federal and state regulations (such as the proposed AIM >> rule and the revisions to SCAQMD's Rule 1113). Instituting a state >> government conferencing forum would energize the States to discuss the >> problems their industries are having in meeting regulations and to share >> information concerning innovative solutions to solving those problems. >> >> If an Internet conferencing web site, or similar medium, does not exist, >> RTI's web page development specialists could create such a site. RTI >> has several state-of-the-art web site development technologies that >> could establish, manage, and maintain all conferencing exchanges >> (implementing security and confidentiality measures, of course). In >> addition, if states are looking for independent research to aid in their >> search for solutions to their common problems, RTI and RTI's Pollution >> Prevention Program is available to meet this need by providing a rich >> and solid network of research and development resources with the aim of >> identifying and demonstrating innovative pollution prevention >> technologies that reduce and/or eliminate VOC emissions. (Please refer >> to http://www.rti.org). >> >> One project I have been working on for small coatings users and state >> technical assistance programs is the development of an expert system and >> information base called the Coating Alternatives Guide (CAGE). Funded >> by the EPA's National Risk Management Research Laboratory, Air Pollution >> Prevention and Control Division, in Research Triangle Park, the guide >> evaluates the coating user's current coating process and recommends >> alternative low-emitting coating technologies that closely fit the >> user's process. In addition, it gives summarized information on various >> low-emitting alternatives extracted from several up-to-date >> industry-related literature references. CAGE is available in both >> MS-DOS and Internet versions. The MS-DOS version of CAGE (for metal >> parts) can be downloaded from the Internet Web site at: >> http://clean.rti.org/cage/download. CAGE is a simple yet effective tool >> for meeting the needs of small coatings users who are struggling to find >> solutions to meeting emissions regulations but neither have the time nor >> economic resources to invest in research endeavors. Products such as >> CAGE, would be extremely valuable to small businesses in many industries >> and would prove to be valuable to state government programs looking to >> solidify relations with small businesses. >> >> Once again, if you are aware of any conferencing Internet Web sites for >> state programs, please let me know. >> >> Thank you for your assistance. >> ---- >> Dean R. Cornstubble, Research Chemical Engineer >> "Research Triangle Institute - Research that meets needs" >> (919) 541-6813; Fax x-7155 (http://www.rti.org) >> Visit the Coating Alternatives Guide at http://clean.rti.org/cage. > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 13:11:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA03860 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:11:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Cornstubble, Dean R." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: FW: Forum Web Site Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:10:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Before I receive more "reminders", which have been appreciated, I apologize for the "ad". It was my mistake and it won't happen again. >---------- >From: Cornstubble, Dean R. >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 1997 8:32 AM >To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' >Subject: Forum Web Site > >My name is Dean Cornstubble and I work at Research Triangle Institute >(RTI) in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. I work in the >Pollution Prevention Program at RTI on projects to develop products that >assist in reducing emissions from industrial processes, mainly the paint >and coatings industry. > >This e-mail message was sent previously asking if anyone knew of a state >government forum on the Internet for discussing established and upcoming >Federal and/or state emissions regulations. If this type of web site >does not exist, it would be nice to develop one or develop a >conferencing option on the home web page for the National Pollution >Prevention Roundtable. > >My purpose in asking about an established state government conferencing >forum is based on an article published in the Environmental Policy >Alert, dated July 3, 1996. The article is titled, "House Lawmakers >Question Timing of Clean Air Paint Regulations." This article refers to >the proposed Federal rule for controlling VOC emissions from >architectural and industrial maintenance (AIM) coatings. What caught my >attention in this article was the statement, "...while we understand >that EPA views this rule as having limited small business impact, over >100 small paint manufacturers feel differently. In fact, many of these >manufacturers claim their livelihood will be seriously harmed by this >rule..." Also, in the January 1997 issue of Paint & Coatings Industry, >Robert Wendoll of the Environmental Legislative and Regulatory Advocacy >Program in southern California said, in response to the South Coast Air >Quality Management District's (SCAQMD's) recently issued revisions of >its Rule 1113 on VOCs in architectural coatings, that the district has, >in effect, "told consumers they don't have the right to use paint that >works; they have to use crap." > >These statements made me realize that small businesses need technical >assistance and independent research to help them find solutions in >meeting tough Federal and state regulations (such as the proposed AIM >rule and the revisions to SCAQMD's Rule 1113). Instituting a state >government conferencing forum would energize the States to discuss the >problems their industries are having in meeting regulations and to share >information concerning innovative solutions to solving those problems. > >If an Internet conferencing web site, or similar medium, does not exist, >RTI's web page development specialists could create such a site. RTI >has several state-of-the-art web site development technologies that >could establish, manage, and maintain all conferencing exchanges >(implementing security and confidentiality measures, of course). In >addition, if states are looking for independent research to aid in their >search for solutions to their common problems, RTI and RTI's Pollution >Prevention Program is available to meet this need by providing a rich >and solid network of research and development resources with the aim of >identifying and demonstrating innovative pollution prevention >technologies that reduce and/or eliminate VOC emissions. (Please refer >to http://www.rti.org). > >One project I have been working on for small coatings users and state >technical assistance programs is the development of an expert system and >information base called the Coating Alternatives Guide (CAGE). Funded >by the EPA's National Risk Management Research Laboratory, Air Pollution >Prevention and Control Division, in Research Triangle Park, the guide >evaluates the coating user's current coating process and recommends >alternative low-emitting coating technologies that closely fit the >user's process. In addition, it gives summarized information on various >low-emitting alternatives extracted from several up-to-date >industry-related literature references. CAGE is available in both >MS-DOS and Internet versions. The MS-DOS version of CAGE (for metal >parts) can be downloaded from the Internet Web site at: >http://clean.rti.org/cage/download. CAGE is a simple yet effective tool >for meeting the needs of small coatings users who are struggling to find >solutions to meeting emissions regulations but neither have the time nor >economic resources to invest in research endeavors. Products such as >CAGE, would be extremely valuable to small businesses in many industries >and would prove to be valuable to state government programs looking to >solidify relations with small businesses. > >Once again, if you are aware of any conferencing Internet Web sites for >state programs, please let me know. > >Thank you for your assistance. >---- >Dean R. Cornstubble, Research Chemical Engineer >"Research Triangle Institute - Research that meets needs" >(919) 541-6813; Fax x-7155 (http://www.rti.org) >Visit the Coating Alternatives Guide at http://clean.rti.org/cage. > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 13:22:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id NAA04761 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:22:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:21:47 -0500 (EST) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re[2]: Chickens and alligators To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <9700218538.AA853879254@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Art certainly opened up a whole can of worms here..... wait a second.....Worms! maybe THAT's the solution!!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Chickens and alligators Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 1/21/97 9:01 AM > >Janet, > >Thanks for pursuing this one further and thanks also for your rather >vivid depiction of this surreal, terrestrial feeding frenzy. I really >couldn't even imagine this at the scale some of these chicken farms >would require. I think I'll learn from this (once again) that >prevention is the best answer. Reducing mortality offers the most >sensical and most ethical way to solve the problem. I'd like to think >that there's a closed-loop system that mimics the cycles of nature -- >but things always get so complicated when we do things at a scale >that satisfies economic goals at the expense of environmental and >other goals. It becomes just another "take, make, waste" operation -- >not very sustainable in the long run. > > >Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner >Vermont Agency of Natural Resources >Environmental Assistance Division >103 South Main Street >Waterbury VT 05671-0411 >phone: (802) 241-3628 >FAX: (802) 241-3273 >e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us >"Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." >-- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- > Hi Doug, I do favor closed systems that include live components, even if construed and cultivated. I am afraid that if animals don't have "practical" value, they will disappear from the landscape! Prevention and efficency first, then mimic the biosystem. Alligators? maybe but not in NE. And certainly not bears and raccoons! Did you ever visit the wolf park in Ipswich, MA? Not considering impounding another wolf pack, but we have plenty varieties of domestic feline and canids. Better to process dead chickens as commercial cat food, I guess. Thanks for you comments. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org Check out the NBEN interactive site at http://www.nben.org and... P2Gems, a web search tool at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 14:59:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA12866 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:59:31 -0500 (EST) From: goldbergt@woods.uml.edu Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:59:14 EST To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <009AEB34.214C0D20.1083@woods.uml.edu> Subject: RE: DOT line painting operations Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vince, You might want to contact george Coombes at the Vermont AOT. I think he worked with this type of paint and I never heard him have these problems. Maybe he's using a different paint. Anyways, it might be worth a call. His number is 802-828-2564. Lisa Regenstein NEWMOA 129 Portland St Boston, MA From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 15:00:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA13029 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:00:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:09:14 -0600 From: Thomas Vinson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: maroseme@tnrcc.state.tx.us Subject: COAL FIRED GENERATING STATIONS -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Thanks for getting back to me. Right now just about anything could = probably be helpful. However, we are investigating this issue because TRI = is expanding; this expansion will lead to coal fired electric generating = power plants being required to do pollution prevention plans in Texas. We = are looking for other power plants who have implemented P2 programs that = have been successful, particularly if they were economically beneficial. = Specifically methods for reducing TRI emissions from burning the coal = (e.g. some companies use neural networks to efficiently burn their coal). = Its a little hard to be more specific, since we are not sure what kinds = of information are out there. Thanks Th*mas >>> =22Richard Illig (717) 327-3568=22 = 01/21/97 11:20am >>> FROM: R. Illig RE: Coal Fired Generating Stations =20 Could you please provide greater detail on the aspects of such=20 facilities inwhich you are interested? =20 Ric From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 15:32:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id PAA15363 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:32:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:52:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701211952.OAA28919@lucius.ultra.net> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" From: janet clark Subject: Re: FW: Forum Web Site Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dean, Talk to Maureen Hart, who is working for NEWMOA on creating a web resource for the coatings industry. email is mhart@tiac.net - Janet Clark >>---------- >>From: Cornstubble, Dean R. >>Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 1997 8:32 AM >>To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' >>Subject: Forum Web Site >> >>My name is Dean Cornstubble and I work at Research Triangle Institute >>(RTI) in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. I work in the >>Pollution Prevention Program at RTI on projects to develop products that >>assist in reducing emissions from industrial processes, mainly the paint >>and coatings industry. >> >>This e-mail message was sent previously asking if anyone knew of a state >>government forum on the Internet for discussing established and upcoming >>Federal and/or state emissions regulations. If this type of web site >>does not exist, it would be nice to develop one or develop a >>conferencing option on the home web page for the National Pollution >>Prevention Roundtable. >> >>My purpose in asking about an established state government conferencing >>forum is based on an article published in the Environmental Policy >>Alert, dated July 3, 1996. The article is titled, "House Lawmakers >>Question Timing of Clean Air Paint Regulations." This article refers to >>the proposed Federal rule for controlling VOC emissions from >>architectural and industrial maintenance (AIM) coatings. What caught my >>attention in this article was the statement, "...while we understand >>that EPA views this rule as having limited small business impact, over >>100 small paint manufacturers feel differently. In fact, many of these >>manufacturers claim their livelihood will be seriously harmed by this >>rule..." Also, in the January 1997 issue of Paint & Coatings Industry, >>Robert Wendoll of the Environmental Legislative and Regulatory Advocacy >>Program in southern California said, in response to the South Coast Air >>Quality Management District's (SCAQMD's) recently issued revisions of >>its Rule 1113 on VOCs in architectural coatings, that the district has, >>in effect, "told consumers they don't have the right to use paint that >>works; they have to use crap." >> >>These statements made me realize that small businesses need technical >>assistance and independent research to help them find solutions in >>meeting tough Federal and state regulations (such as the proposed AIM >>rule and the revisions to SCAQMD's Rule 1113). Instituting a state >>government conferencing forum would energize the States to discuss the >>problems their industries are having in meeting regulations and to share >>information concerning innovative solutions to solving those problems. >> >>If an Internet conferencing web site, or similar medium, does not exist, >>RTI's web page development specialists could create such a site. RTI >>has several state-of-the-art web site development technologies that >>could establish, manage, and maintain all conferencing exchanges >>(implementing security and confidentiality measures, of course). In >>addition, if states are looking for independent research to aid in their >>search for solutions to their common problems, RTI and RTI's Pollution >>Prevention Program is available to meet this need by providing a rich >>and solid network of research and development resources with the aim of >>identifying and demonstrating innovative pollution prevention >>technologies that reduce and/or eliminate VOC emissions. (Please refer >>to http://www.rti.org). >> >>One project I have been working on for small coatings users and state >>technical assistance programs is the development of an expert system and >>information base called the Coating Alternatives Guide (CAGE). Funded >>by the EPA's National Risk Management Research Laboratory, Air Pollution >>Prevention and Control Division, in Research Triangle Park, the guide >>evaluates the coating user's current coating process and recommends >>alternative low-emitting coating technologies that closely fit the >>user's process. In addition, it gives summarized information on various >>low-emitting alternatives extracted from several up-to-date >>industry-related literature references. CAGE is available in both >>MS-DOS and Internet versions. The MS-DOS version of CAGE (for metal >>parts) can be downloaded from the Internet Web site at: >>http://clean.rti.org/cage/download. CAGE is a simple yet effective tool >>for meeting the needs of small coatings users who are struggling to find >>solutions to meeting emissions regulations but neither have the time nor >>economic resources to invest in research endeavors. Products such as >>CAGE, would be extremely valuable to small businesses in many industries >>and would prove to be valuable to state government programs looking to >>solidify relations with small businesses. >> >>Once again, if you are aware of any conferencing Internet Web sites for >>state programs, please let me know. >> >>Thank you for your assistance. >>---- >>Dean R. Cornstubble, Research Chemical Engineer >>"Research Triangle Institute - Research that meets needs" >>(919) 541-6813; Fax x-7155 (http://www.rti.org) >>Visit the Coating Alternatives Guide at http://clean.rti.org/cage. >> > > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 16:59:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id QAA22911 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) From: EPA8603@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:51:09 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 and coal-fired power plants--reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In response to the request for information on P2 and coal-fired power plants, you may want to check out the following two fact sheets in U.S. EPA's EnviroSense database: 1. Fact Sheet: Pollution Prevention: Strategies for Fossil Fuel Electric Power Generation (http://es.inel.gov/techinfo/facts/chmr/strtgy4.html 2. Waste Reduction Activities and Options for a Fossil Fuel Fired Electrical Generating Station (http://es.inel.gov/techinfo/research/reduce/rre1446.html) Kevin Greene, Illinois EPA From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 18:00:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA03301 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:00:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:00:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701212300.SAA03301@cedar.cic.net> From: Robert M Keller To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: New Safety Information Service Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net IFOE has established a WWW site to provide infomation on nuclear safety, environmental protection and worker safety issues to the public. It was started by two former nuclear safety managers from NRC and DOE. 60 years of experience help us to find information of interest to the public on these issues. We are completely independent from all governmental and contractor or activist support. We publish a newsletter, which we invite you or your members to subscribe to. Please put information on IFOE in your newletters and bulletins. Check out our site at: http://www.ifoe.com Bob Keller, IFOE From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 21 18:03:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA03470 for p2tech-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:03:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:03:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701212303.SAA22934@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: RE: DOT line painting operations Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Thanks Lisa, I appreciate the referral. Hope the knee is healing well! Talk to you soon. Vince At 02:59 PM 1/21/97 EST, you wrote: >Vince, > >You might want to contact george Coombes at the Vermont AOT. I think >he worked with this type of paint and I never heard him have these >problems. Maybe he's using a different paint. Anyways, it might be worth >a call. His number is 802-828-2564. > >Lisa Regenstein >NEWMOA >129 Portland St >Boston, MA > > From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 07:27:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id HAA00260 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:27:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:27:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701221227.HAA29092@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: Re: DOT line painting operations Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Thanks Gary, Hope all is well with you and the family. I appreciate the information. Talk to you soon. Vince At 11:23 AM 1/21/97 EST, you wrote: > >Hi Vince, > >In response to your traffic paint questions, I refer you to the >Vermont Agency of Transportation which is also progressing quite >rapidly toward complete conversion to latex traffic paints. The >Agency of Transportation has a very progressive environmental >management program, especially related to vehicle and fleet >maintenance. The contact is: > >George Combes >AOT Central Garage >Drawer 33 >Berlin, VT 05633-5001 >(802) 828-2564 > >I am aware that a filter was necessary before the loading pump in >order to take care of the paint chunks or flakes. By this spring, >AOT will completely into water-borne traffic paints. This facility >is sewered, but I am not aware of any significant volume of >wastewater needing disposal. Other than the slow drying times and >getting paint on passing cars, there have not been any insurmountable >problems in the conversion. > >Gary Gulka >Environmental Assistance Division >103 South Main Street >Waterbury, VT 05671-0404 > >(802) 241-3626 >garyg@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 17:37:21 -0500 (EST) >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >From: Vince Perelli >Subject: DOT line painting operations >Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > >Hi Folks, > >I had a tough site visit the other day at one of our NH DOT facilities and >was wondering if anyone could help me out. Apparently, NH DOT has been one >of the leaders (at least in New England) as far as the conversion from >toluene based traffic paint to water-based/lead-free paints. As one might >expect, there are many benefits associated with the switch, but also, as I >have heard, a lot of headaches too - wastewater, shorter painting season, >less forgiving coating, etc... > >Some problems experienced: > >1. The water-based paint (delivered in 300 gallon totes) has been full of >flakes and has been clogging the various hoses and strainers on the paint >trucks. The clogging used to occur in the lines on the paint truck. Staff >recently put prefilters in place that allowed flakes to be caught closer to >the totes during loading. This causes lots of downtime and creates perhaps >the largest problem: Clean-up > >2. Due to the nature of the water-based paint, all paint transfer lines and >fittings must be cleaned daily. The old solvent based paint did not require >such cleanup, and the lines could usually be cleaned with a small amount of >solvent. As one might suspect, there is a lot of wastewater to deal with. >This facility is not on the sewer system and was, up until fairly recently, >washing the paint into a drain in the yard. In fact, all paint transfers >and truck cleanups were done outside on a large cement pad. We are talking >about a lot of paint here. 200,000 gallons per year. > >The facility is no longer allowed to pump the paint into the paint trucks >out of doors (because the current setup would allow spills to go directly >into the drain) and cannot perform outdoor paint clean up. Nor can they >wash any of the other vehicles in their fleet. All of these issues have to >be resolved well before the water-based painting season begins (if we are >lucky) in April. > >It is my opinion, and that of the DOT staff, that they are going to have to >spend some cash to build a contained/covered pad that will allow them to >capture and hopefully reuse washwater. Rumor has it that keeping the totes >out of the sun (and working with a vendor that actually cleans out the >returned totes) will reduce the flaking and clogging issues. > >Anyway... I was wondering if anyone has worked with their DOT on similar >issues? Any contacts you could send my way? Any thoughts on options for >this operation? Any wash water recycling units or systems that you might be >aware of? How about work done with paint formulators? I would think that >the wash water issue would be something near and dear to the formulators >themselves? > >Any information or leads would be greatly appreciated. > >Vince Perelli > >***************************************************** > >Vincent R. Perelli >New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services >Pollution Prevention Program >6 Hazen Drive >Concord, NH 03301-6509 >phone: 603 271-2902 >fax: 603 271-2456 >perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com > >A Thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility >of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new >patterns of >consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" > >****************************************************** > > > ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 08:05:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id IAA01328 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:05:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:05:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701221305.IAA03536@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: oops Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You know, I used to pride myself on not making the same mistake twice. But now that I've inadvertently replied to the whole listserve, as opposed to the individuals that I thought I was replying directly to, on at least three occasions now, I guess I've thrown that out the window. I will make sure that I look at the sender vs. from lines from now on. My apologies to the P2Tech subscribers. Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 09:25:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA05775 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:25:03 -0500 (EST) From: Finresorce@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:24:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970122092423_-2013205650@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In a message dated 97-01-21 09:57:22 EST, you write: << Does anyone have any information, tips, or comments regarding Pollution Prevention from coal fired electric generation plants? >> The Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) has collected a great deal of P2 information, including for coal-fired stations, over the past six years or so. The contact person is Dr. Mary McLearn, 415-855-2487, fax 2954. The Lower Colorado River Authority (LCRA is principally an electric utility) recently completed a study under an EPA grant for P2 measures specific to the utility industry. Study reports will include measures enacted at Fayette Power Project, a coal-fired station. Contact persons: Dr. Charles Urdy or Mark Johnson, 512-473-3200. I have prepared P2 plans for numerous electric utility facilities, including six coal-fired stations. I am sure some sort of summary could be pulled together, if interested. Charlie Davis Finite Resources, Inc. 803 River Road Austin, Texas 78734 512-263-5053, fax 2269 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 09:33:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA06544 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:33:19 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:26:31 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:36:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" Subject: P2 and the Livestock Industry To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID dw5f2ct50CEAb2HMhNBl2Q)" Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:26:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: E44ZWRFDHY21 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;13629022107991/491991@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net --Boundary (ID dw5f2ct50CEAb2HMhNBl2Q) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Dear Emmett, Although I am not a farming expert, I recall reading about a large swine operation in Ohio. During the late 1970's and early 1980's, this operation had large shelters for their animals. The owners were extremely fussy about keeping their animals clean and the droppings removed frequently. Instead of mud, the hogs had concrete floors with moist areas to remain cool during the summer heat. The feed troughs were kept clean. I believe the manure was spread on large fields used for growing grain. These fields were located a distance from any housing developments which reduced the opportunity for drinking water well contamination. Although I don't have statistics in hand, I would think the animals were probably healthier and the farmer had less livestock loss because of the clean environment. I don't have any written facts about this type of operation, city where the farm is located, or the contact name of the owner company, but am writing from memory about a news article I read. I understand the farm was able to be competitive in livestock price as other farms. I surmise that this qualifies as P2 in that the hog feed was not spilled in mud. Also animal wastes were easier to manage from a concrete floor rather than a mixture of mud. Manure management today may need to be revised in accordance with state and local codes, but a cleaner, healthier envirnment for livestock still makes sense. Jo Anne Hollash PA DEP - OPPCA Harrisburg, PA --Boundary (ID dw5f2ct50CEAb2HMhNBl2Q) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:16:18 EST From: "Air Lab"@a1.pader.gov Subject: Re: P2 and the Livestock Industry Sender: owner-p2tech To: p2tech Reply-to: p2tech Message-id: <32E02462.5217@ci.lincoln.ne.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID NAVOXbQxnC8PE8O+RPqMog)" Delivery-date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:33:00 EST Posting-date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:33:49 EST Importance: normal A1-type: MAIL References: --Boundary (ID NAVOXbQxnC8PE8O+RPqMog) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us wrote: > > Dear P2tech list: > > Hi! > We are looking for information (reports, checklists, fact sheets) on > preventative measures that can be used to reduce odors and waste > from livestock operations, in particular large scale confined hog or swine > production facilities. > > Please respond or contact me directly at 217.785.1639 > or by E-mail: EPA8616@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us > > Thanks in Advance > Emmett George, Intern. > Office of Pollution Prevention > Illinois Environmental Protection Agency. Emmett, I seem to remember from my Great Plains Forestry/Woody Plant class that wind breaks can be utilzed to control odors from livestock operations. The person you would want to contact is Dr. Brandle at the University of Nebraska at Lincoln. Sorry, that I don't have his phone number, but you should be able to obtain his phone number by calling (402) 472-7211. Chris Schroeder Pollution Prevention Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department Lincoln, NE --Boundary (ID NAVOXbQxnC8PE8O+RPqMog) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:33:53 EST MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal A1-type: DOCUMENT RFC-822-headers: Received: from gatekeeper.pader.gov by PADER.GOV (PMDF V5.0-6 #8726) id <01IEBVC5JE0GAJU9Y0@PADER.GOV>; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by gatekeeper.pader.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA10515; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:38:00 -0500 Received: from cedar.cic.net by gatekeeper.pader.gov (smtpxd); id XA11523 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id SAA15872 for p2tech-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:15:43 -0500 (EST) Organization: Lincoln-Lancaster County Health X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) Precedence: bulk --Boundary (ID NAVOXbQxnC8PE8O+RPqMog)-- --Boundary (ID dw5f2ct50CEAb2HMhNBl2Q)-- From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 10:08:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA11096 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:08:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970122150827.0069ff14@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:08:27 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ester Burke Subject: Re: Email lists Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I don't know about e-mail addresses, but there is a wonderful list of web sites on The MEP Source Hot List http://www.mep.nist.gov/centers/resources/hotlist/env_list.html Ester Burke Illinois Waste Management and Research Center eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu At 03:15 PM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone know if there is an existing list which could supply me with all >of the Email addresses (for corporations involved in P2, state government, >environmental groups, etc.)? >TIA! >el > > > From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 12:08:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA23043 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:08:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:13:23 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: great lakes p2tech Subject: Recycling contracts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone have examples, guidelines or specifications for recycling contracts proposals for a full scale recycling program that would include paper, bottles, cans,etc? Judy Jakobsen, Source Reduction Specialist SCWA P2 Program 4060 Sunrise Highway Oakdale, NY 11769 516-563-0306 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 14:32:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA03431 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:32:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:31:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199701221931.NAA21693@CP.Duluth.MN.US> X-Sender: p2team@cp.duluth.mn.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Tim Tuominen Subject: Re: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 09:44 AM 1/21/97 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have any information, tips, or comments regarding Pollution >Prevention from coal fired electric generation plants? > > Use Low mercury membrane grade caustic soda for pH control or backwashing deionizing columns instead of High mercury "mercury cell" caustic. Tim Tuominen WLSSD 2626 Courtland Street Duluth, MN 55806 Phone: 218.722.3336 x324 Fax: 218.727.7471 Email: p2team@cp.duluth.mn.us From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 14:53:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA05364 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:53:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:53:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701221953.OAA08399@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: tgreiner@tiac.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: tgreiner@tiac.net (tgreiner) Subject: The Future of P2 discussion Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Several months(?) ago there was a discussion on what I thought was P2Tech on the future of P2. Many of the comments centered around the use of neural networks for process optimization. When I searched through the P2tech archives, I could not find any messages on this topic! I also called NPPR and asked if they would search the NPPR listserver files for "neural networks" or the "future of P2" -- they also did not find anything! Am I hallucinating or did such a discussion take place. If it did take place, which listserver and when?! Since there is no need to innundate everybody's mailbox with responses to this question, I recommend responding directly to me and not to the entire P2tech listserver. Thanks, Tim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Timothy J. Greiner MBA, MCP Greiner Environmental 2 Emily Lane Gloucester, MA 01930 tel: 508-525-2214 fax: 508-525-2247 e-mail: tgreiner@tiac.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 17:55:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA19003 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:55:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:00:54 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: great lakes p2tech Subject: Recycling contracts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I appologize if this was posted already but I got a message this was undeliverable. As you can see I am a novice at email and appologize for any inconvenience. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:14:02 -0500 From: Administrator <#@roc.tlp.com> To: Suffolk County Water Authority Subject: Message not deliverable Does anyone have examples, guidelines or specifications for recycling contracts proposals for a full scale recycling program that would include paper, bottles, cans,etc? Judy Jakobsen, Source Reduction Specialist SCWA P2 Program 4060 Sunrise Highway Oakdale, NY 11769 516-563-0306 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 18:48:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA21924 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:48:51 -0500 (EST) From: Envcoalsea@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:48:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970122173316_1859146523@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Recycling contracts Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Contact Chris Luboff or D'Anne Mount at the Seattle Solid Waste Utility. Their # was 206-684-7666, they have been re-organized into the now larger Seattle Public Utilities and you may have to ask for a forwarding #. As you probably know, we have a very successful recycling program here and they collect bottles, cans, plastic bottles (#1 & 2 only) newspaper, mixed waste paper and cardboard. They also have a yard waste collection program. Charlie Cunniff ECOSS Environmental Coaltion of South Seattle From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 18:51:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA22088 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:51:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:39:55 -0500 (EST) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re: Recycling contracts To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <9700228539.AA853988172@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Judy -- Metro (King County/City of Seattle joint governmental entity) has a nice portion of their web site built on the topic of recycling in procurement, including their boilerplate contract language for specifying exactly what you're looking for. You can find the contract boilerplate at: http://www.metrokc.gov/oppis/_a_stnpr.html If you want the broader program info, look at: http://www.metrokc.gov/oppis/recyclea.html Hope this helps. (Oh, and by the way, you'll sometimes get the message undeliverable warning if one or more of the subscribers to this list has a broken e-mail address, which happens often. Usually, you can ignore the warning.) Scott Butner ___________________________________________________ Scott Butner (butner@battelle.org) Battelle Seattle Research Center 4000 NE 41st Street Seattle, WA 98105 206-528-3290 voice/206-528-3552 fax http://www.seattle.battelle.org/P2Online/ ___________________________________________________ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Recycling contracts Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 1/22/97 6:26 PM I appologize if this was posted already but I got a message this was undeliverable. As you can see I am a novice at email and appologize for any inconvenience. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:14:02 -0500 From: Administrator <#@roc.tlp.com> To: Suffolk County Water Authority Subject: Message not deliverable Does anyone have examples, guidelines or specifications for recycling contracts proposals for a full scale recycling program that would include paper, bottles, cans,etc? Judy Jakobsen, Source Reduction Specialist SCWA P2 Program 4060 Sunrise Highway Oakdale, NY 11769 516-563-0306 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 18:53:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA22190 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:53:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:59:15 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Long Distance Learning Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone have information on costs associated with long distance learning. I am trying to work with some one on offering a course using something like picture tel. The course attendees and instructors would have both visual and audio capabilities at both locations. Thanks for any help. Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program 4060 Sunrise Highway Oakdale, New York 11769 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 19:34:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA24204 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:34:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E57C12.4937@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:31:46 -0500 From: Duane Mazur Organization: Authorized License X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Chickens and Gators - Another Example Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The following was quoted in the Saturday, January 18, 1997 Buffalo Evening News farm column: "Mark Glass of Camilla, GA raises 350,000 chickens a year, losing about 21,000 to illness. He has a novel disposal method, but it's not for everybody. He feeds the dead chickens to the 1,200 growing, hungry and aggressive alligators he raises in a watery enclosure the size of a football field. His alligator farm is just a year old, but by next year, when the alligators reach a six-foot length, he plans to sell their meat and hides." Duane Mazur mazurdjm@worldnet.att.net From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 19:46:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA24820 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:46:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:24:06 -0500 (EST) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re: Long Distance Learning To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <9700228539.AA853991452@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Judy -- Can't provide you with costs, but I can tell you that my own experience with distance learning via teleconferences, video, etc has been less than impressive. Interaction, continuity, and responsiveness all generally suffer relative to in-person training. Some of this is an artifact of premature application of the technology, but I think some of it is inherent in the inability of video to convey nuance. As always, bandwith is key, and there are some pretty subtle components of the training message that get left out of any technology where the information gets passed along a wire. Based on a couple of experiences (both as a presenter and as a victim, er....recipient of distance technology) I would suggest using it as a device of last resort only if on-site in person training is not feasible. I realize that doesn't answer your question, but P2 teaches us to always consider whether the original question is the most appropriate one. :) Hopefully some less technologically-impaired soul will provide you with what you need -- ie., hourly costs of video conferencing, etc. One suggestion as a benchmark is to check with a local Kinko's since they now offer that service in many locations. That should give you an order of magnitude estimate.... Scott Butner ___________________________________________________ Scott Butner (butner@battelle.org) Battelle Seattle Research Center 4000 NE 41st Street Seattle, WA 98105 206-528-3290 voice/206-528-3552 fax http://www.seattle.battelle.org/P2Online/ ___________________________________________________ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Long Distance Learning Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 1/22/97 7:12 PM Does anyone have information on costs associated with long distance learning. I am trying to work with some one on offering a course using something like picture tel. The course attendees and instructors would have both visual and audio capabilities at both locations. Thanks for any help. Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program 4060 Sunrise Highway Oakdale, New York 11769 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 19:50:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA24966 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:50:06 -0500 (EST) From: EPA8603@wpogw.admop.epa.state.il.us Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:42:48 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 and coal fired power plants--reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Below is another source of information on P2 and coal-fired power plants: U.S. EPA Office of Federal Activities, Pollution Prevention/Environmental Impact Reduction Checklist for Coal-Fired Power Plants (http://es.inel.gov/oeca/ofa/pollprev/coal.html) Kevin Greene, Illinois EPA From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 22 20:53:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id UAA27729 for p2tech-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:53:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:27:43 -0500 (EST) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <9700228539.AA853995425@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I realize we're beating a dead horse here (or rather, a dead chicken....) but I've been wondering: what does he feed his dead ALLIGATORS to? I'm sure some of them die prematurely, and even if not, there's got to be butchering wastes. Hmmmm.... ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Chickens and Gators - Another Example Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 1/22/97 8:01 PM The following was quoted in the Saturday, January 18, 1997 Buffalo Evening News farm column: "Mark Glass of Camilla, GA raises 350,000 chickens a year, losing about 21,000 to illness. He has a novel disposal method, but it's not for everybody. He feeds the dead chickens to the 1,200 growing, hungry and aggressive alligators he raises in a watery enclosure the size of a football field. His alligator farm is just a year old, but by next year, when the alligators reach a six-foot length, he plans to sell their meat and hides." Duane Mazur mazurdjm@worldnet.att.net From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 01:13:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id BAA08141 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:13:07 -0500 (EST) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199701230612.WAA24269@netcom7.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:12:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9700228539.AA853995425@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> from "Robert S Butner" at Jan 22, 97 05:27:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Did anybody else figure out that Mark Glass is "losing" 6% of his chickens a year? The question should not be "What do we do with all these dead chickens?" but "Why is it we have all these dead chickens?" However, as is the general case with waste treatment vs. pollution prevention alternatives, there would probably be more money for consultants in the alligator solution then there would be in recommending fans or low-heat light sources or revamped cages that permit better air circulation. (I get a vision of consulting firms promoting their own particular alligator solutions, eg. Chick-O-Gators or Croco-Dieoffs or Feathers2Leather. Some of the firms would branch off into caiman retrofits as a supposedly superior alternative to alligators, and a side-industry would spring up for handling reptilian pond and carcass wastes. As in, "Call Crocosh-t Corp. for all your alligator pond needs.") But you have to like the alligator solution for the chicken "losses" that can't be helped. The current solution.... Stinks. As anybody that's ever been anywhere near a chicken farm can attest. > > I realize we're beating a dead horse here (or rather, a dead chicken....) but > I've been wondering: what does he feed his dead ALLIGATORS to? I'm sure some > of them die prematurely, and even if not, there's got to be butchering wastes. > > Hmmmm.... > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Chickens and Gators - Another Example > Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet > Date: 1/22/97 8:01 PM > > > The following was quoted in the Saturday, January 18, 1997 Buffalo Evening News > farm > column: > > "Mark Glass of Camilla, GA raises 350,000 chickens a year, losing about 21,000 > to > illness. He has a novel disposal method, but it's not for everybody. He feeds > the dead > chickens to the 1,200 growing, hungry and aggressive alligators he raises in a > watery > enclosure the size of a football field. His alligator farm is just a year old, > but by > next year, when the alligators reach a six-foot length, he plans to sell their > meat and > hides." > > Duane Mazur > mazurdjm@worldnet.att.net > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 05:16:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id FAA13147 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 05:16:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E7B8B6.57D@cipn.es> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:15:02 -0800 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives Organization: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech Subject: P2 in hotels and restaurants Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear p2techs, I ask again for your help. I am looking for information about pollution prevention and waste minimization in hotels and restaurants industry. Any information would be very useful. Thanks, Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona (Spain) e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es tf: +3434147090 fax: +3434144582 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 06:30:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id GAA14984 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 06:30:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:29:39 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701231129.MAA21617@nms.cyf-kr.edu.pl> X-Sender: uugluszy@kinga.cyf-kr.edu.pl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Pawel Gluszynski Subject: Re: P2 in hotels and restaurants Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 11:15 23.01.97 -0800, Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives wrote: >Dear p2techs, > >I ask again for your help. I am looking for information about pollution >prevention and waste minimization in hotels and restaurants industry. However, it's not exactly you are looking for but you may try to check "Best Practice Ecotourism - A Guide to Energy and Waste Minimisation" from the Australian Commonwealth Department of Tourism at: http://www.tourism.gov.au/publications/BPE/Start.html Pawel From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 07:20:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id HAA15816 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:20:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970123071724.2ebf4d60@pegasus.ckyinc.com> X-Sender: josie@pegasus.ckyinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "L. Josie Phillips" Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:21:03 -0500 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You may be right about beating the dead horse (or chicken or alligator) but, my, haven't we had fun?!? In answer to your question, I believe the alligators take care of their own. At 05:27 PM 1/22/97 -0500, you wrote: >I realize we're beating a dead horse here (or rather, a dead chicken....) but >I've been wondering: what does he feed his dead ALLIGATORS to? I'm sure some >of them die prematurely, and even if not, there's got to be butchering wastes. > >Hmmmm.... > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Chickens and Gators - Another Example >Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet >Date: 1/22/97 8:01 PM > > >The following was quoted in the Saturday, January 18, 1997 Buffalo Evening News >farm >column: > >"Mark Glass of Camilla, GA raises 350,000 chickens a year, losing about 21,000 >to >illness. He has a novel disposal method, but it's not for everybody. He feeds >the dead >chickens to the 1,200 growing, hungry and aggressive alligators he raises in a >watery >enclosure the size of a football field. His alligator farm is just a year old, >but by >next year, when the alligators reach a six-foot length, he plans to sell their >meat and >hides." > >Duane Mazur >mazurdjm@worldnet.att.net > > > ************************************************************ L. Josie Phillips CKY, Inc. 140 East Division Street, Suite C-3 Oak Ridge, TN 37830 P) 423-483-4376 ext. 205 F) 423-482-3585 E) josie@ckyinc.com PLEASE NOTE: My EMail address has changed from 5LM@ornl.gov to josie@ckyinc.com. Please make the change in your contacts lists and EMail nicknames. "Every speaker has a mouth; An arrangement rather neat. Sometimes it's filled with wisdom. Sometimes it's filled with feet." ^ ^ - Robert Orben, American humorist and speechwriter ' ' ~~~ **************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 08:05:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA16886 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:05:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701231305.IAA24716@dns2.uga.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "GA Hospitality Environmental Partnership" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:11:10 +0000 Subject: Re: P2 in hotels and restaurants X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I ask again for your help. I am looking for information about pollution prevention and waste minimization in hotels and restaurants industry. Any information would be very useful. Thanks, Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona (Spain) e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es tf: +3434147090 fax: +3434144582 Esther...There is a place you can look for information on your side of the Atlantic ocean which is affiliated with the Prince of Wales Business Leaders Forum...It is called the International Hotels Environment Initiative ( IHEI). They put out a quarterly magazine called Green Hotelier and have extensive educational materials. The only contact I know there is Lucy Bernard and her e-mail address is lucy.bernard@pwblf.org.uk On this side of the Atlantic...The American Hotel and Motel Association has an Americanized version of some of the IHEI's materials and they have a WWW site so you can "window shop" before you buy anything. we here in Atlanta have had a program for just that purpose for roughly 2 years. Our focus has mainly been waste reduction and recycling and we would be happy to help in any way possible. We also have developed educational materials such as a guidebok and training videos dealing with environmental purchasing and the line employees role in recycling throughout the hotel. There are also associations which promote environmentalism in the hospitality industry and I know they have web sites as well. feel free to contact me with any questions you have... Good Luck! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeff Darrow - Program Manager Georgia Hospitality Environmental Partnership 60 Executive Park South, NE Atlanta, GA 30329-2231 Phone: (404) 679.1598 FAX: (404) 679.0572 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 08:43:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA18302 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:43:00 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:42:40 EST Subject: Re: P2 in hotels and restaurants X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:15:02 -0800 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives Organization: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives To: p2tech Subject: P2 in hotels and restaurants Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Esther pregunta, (asks) Dear p2techs, I ask again for your help. I am looking for information about pollution prevention and waste minimization in hotels and restaurants industry. Any information would be very useful. Thanks, Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona (Spain) e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es tf: +3434147090 fax: +3434144582 ********************************************************** I'm faxing you our article #PPP 0503 describing how one hotel chain uses ozone to reduce pollution in their laundering. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 09:58:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA24360 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:58:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E7FADD.4096@cipn.es> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:57:17 -0800 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives Organization: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 in hotels and restaurants References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net RUDY MOEHRBACH wrote: > > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:15:02 -0800 > From: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives > Organization: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives > To: p2tech > Subject: P2 in hotels and restaurants > Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > Esther pregunta, (asks) > > Dear p2techs, > I ask again for your help. I am looking for information about pollution > prevention and waste minimization in hotels and restaurants industry. > Any information would be very useful. > Thanks, > Esther Monfa > Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives > Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 > 08006 Barcelona (Spain) > e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es > tf: +3434147090 > fax: +3434144582 > ********************************************************** > I'm faxing you our article #PPP 0503 describing how one hotel chain > uses ozone to reduce pollution in their laundering. > > Rudy Moehrbach > Waste Reduction Resource Center > P.O.Box 29569 > Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 > Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm Dear Rudy, Thanks for your information. It's really interesting!. regards, Esther From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 10:14:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA25649 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:14:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:21:47 -0500 From: Patricio Gonzales To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 in hotels and restaurants -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Esther: Here is a document that should be of some use to you: "Environmental Management for Hotels - The industry guide to best practice" , 1996, 230 pages, published by: Butterworth-Heinemann Linacre House, Jordan Hill, Oxford OX2 8DP, UK It is not always very specific and detailed but it covers all important aspects of waste minimization in the hotel industry. Enjoy, Patricio Gonzalez Morel Environmental Pollution Prevention Program Hagler Bailly Consulting, Inc. 1530 Wilson Boulevard, Suite 900 Arlington, Virginia 22209-2406 USA Tel: (703) 312-9842 Fax: (703) 351-6166 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 11:07:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA00627 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Recycling haulers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net My last message for recycling contracts was probably confusing in what I meant. I am looking for boiler plate contract or specs for contracts to hire a recycling hauler to take away bottles, cans , paper ,etc. to prepare for bid requests. However thank you to all who sent me information on procurement. This will be very helpful to our purchasing agent. Sorry my message wasn't clear. Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 11:12:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA01205 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:12:44 -0500 (EST) From: EnvSrc@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:12:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970123101743_1378642503@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In a message dated 97-01-22 22:45:59 EST, you write: << what does he feed his dead ALLIGATORS to? >> crawfish, crabs From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 11:52:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA05207 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:52:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:52:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701231652.LAA07668@lucius.ultra.net> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 11:12 AM 1/23/97 -0500, EnvSrc@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-01-22 22:45:59 EST, you write: > ><< what does he feed his dead ALLIGATORS to? >> >crawfish, crabs > or...chickens! Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org Check out the NBEN interactive site at http://www.nben.org and... P2Gems, a web search tool at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 12:04:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA06295 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: Sheila Jones To: "'allp2tech'" , "'Esther Monfa'" Subject: P2 in hotels and restaurants Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 11:45:00 PST Message-ID: <32E7BFD8@dshe.apg.army.mil> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Regarding P2 info. for hotels and restaurants: Green Seal, a non-profit, environmental certification organization, has published a document called "Greening Your Property" for hotels and motels. It contains tips on managing energy consumption and water use, choosing efficient lighting, improving indoor air quality and greening your amenities and services. You could call Mike Shor at Green Seal, (202) 331-7337 for more information. Sheila Jones sjones@dshe.apg.army.mil From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 13:00:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA12666 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:00:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:59:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701231759.MAA12411@bort.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vince Perelli Subject: P2 Planning Documents Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2 Techers: Thanks for the info. regarding the DOT line painting operations - I have some leads to follow and if I get some good stuff, I will share it with anyone interested. On a totally unrelated note, I have a basic request for a new project we are starting up. It's called the "Borderline Project." The purpose of the project is to identify those facilities that are just above and below the regulatory thresholds for large and small hazardous waste generators (in NH SQGS or those companies less than 100kgs/month and Full Quantity Generators include anyone above this amount) as well as those that are in a similar situation in the air program. As we all know, once you go over the "line," more regulations kick in. We are in the process of identifying these companies (this is not sector specific). Once we find them, we are going to provide outreach which looks at P2 as a way to reduce regulatory burden and the like. One problem (opportunity??), NH does not have a mandatory planning law, so P2 planning is a voluntary thing. As part of this project, we will be developing/compiling an "easy to read" P2 planning document that will hopefully convince companies that it is important to do P2 planning despite it not being mandatory in NH. Here's my request: Do any of the states out there without a mandatory P2 Planning requirement have P2 guidance documents that we can scan for some ideas? If so, might I be so bold as to request a copy or at least chat with you about your experiences? Thanks in advance, Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 14:50:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA23014 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:50:25 -0500 (EST) From: Finresorce@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:49:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970123143504_714780771@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: electricity consumption meters Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi P2 Techers, Your experienced and educated advice is needed regarding the following case study. Background: What is referred to by "electricity consumption meter" is the glass-covered device you see hanging on the side of your house that monitors the kilowatts consumed, thus the basis of your monthly electric bill. Periodically these meters must be tested, refurbished, repaired, discarded, etc. Meter repair facilities (typically owned by the electric utility) may process a few hundred to thousands per week. Units that no longer function properly, or that are of older technology designated for replacement, are discarded. The glass cover is removed and typically landfilled since the stainless steel ring is not easy to remove (spot-welded in place). The remaining carcass is typically sold for mixed scrap metal value at 1.5 cents per pound (dependent on location). Questions: Generally, how might meter repair shops (or brokers acting on their behalf) earn additional revenue and conserve addtional resources through management of these scrap meters? Is anyone aware of 'bolt recycling facilities,' i.e., facilities that collect, sort, re-sell used bolts? (There may be 20-30 small bolts in each meter.) Is there any value in the small transformers that are present? How about older technology units that are being discontinued, is there some potential for selling these as working units? perhaps in other countries? Any ideas regarding the glass covers? (perhaps crush the glass, thus making the ring separable and recyclable, along with the glass?) Thanks in advance; your input is greatly appreciated, Charlie Davis Finite Resources, Inc. 803 River Road Austin, Texas 78734 512-263-5053, fax 2269 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 15:29:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA26456 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:29:19 -0500 (EST) From: caoki@unep.fr Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 18:15:29 MET Message-Id: <9700238540.AA854072978@IE-gate.UNEP.FR> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re[2]: P2 in hotels and restaurants Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi, UNEP (United Nations Environment Programme) and the International Hotel & Restaurant Association just compiled a publication called "Environmnetal Good Practice in hotels." It contains 15 case studies selected from applications to the IHA Environmental Award from 92 to 95 (cost: US$50). Also, we have a publication called "Environmental Action Pack for Hotels," which contains action checklists and examples, with sections covering energy, solid waste, water, effluent and emissions, contractors, suppliers, and monitoring. It is a joint publication of UNEP and Inerternational Hotels Environment Initiative, and costs 200 French francs or US$40. If you would like more information on our Tourism Programme, or would like to order these publications, please contact me. cheers, Chizuru Aoki Env. Affairs Officer United Nations Environment Programme 39-43 quai Andre Citroen 75739 Paris CEDEX 15 FRANCE tel: (33 1) 44 37 14 26 fax: (33 1) 44 37 14 74 e-mail: caoki@unep.fr From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 16:01:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA29648 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:01:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:01:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701232101.QAA29648@cedar.cic.net> From: pchase To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Long Distance Learning Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Response to: Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program 4060 Sunrise Highway Oakdale, New York 11769 I saw your request about distance learning on the Training Forum of the National Environmental Training Association (NETA). My name is Pam Chase and I work for NETA as Director of Media Services. I will be happy to answer any questions you might have. You can reach me at (405) 848-2904. Let me also refer you to a person in your area who produces a lot of business television and long distance learning programing. George Cauttero is an officer in the professional association I belong to as a video producer--the International Television Association (ITVA). Being in New York, he can provide local assitance for your training needs. I hope this is useful and please let me know how I can help. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 16:04:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA29919 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:04:18 -0500 (EST) From: "DINA LI" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:07:16 EST Subject: Re: P2 Planning Documents X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vince -- SAIC prepared an -easy-to-read publication on how to prepare a p2 plan for federal facilities. You can skip the first half which talks about the Executive orders, and read section 2 (p2 plan development steps, 11 pages) and section 3 (technical assistance and literature, 3 pgs). Even though the document was intended for Federal facilities, the plan development steps apply to private companies. You can order the free document through the RCRA hotline ( doc no. EPA 300-B-94-013. 12/94). Hope this is helpful. Also, Virginia is doing training and has prepared a package of info as part of a project requesting State agencies to prepare p2 plans. The POC is Tom Griffin. Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:59:59 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Perelli Subject: P2 Planning Documents To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2 Techers: Thanks for the info. regarding the DOT line painting operations - I have some leads to follow and if I get some good stuff, I will share it with anyone interested. On a totally unrelated note, I have a basic request for a new project we are starting up. It's called the "Borderline Project." The purpose of the project is to identify those facilities that are just above and below the regulatory thresholds for large and small hazardous waste generators (in NH SQGS or those companies less than 100kgs/month and Full Quantity Generators include anyone above this amount) as well as those that are in a similar situation in the air program. As we all know, once you go over the "line," more regulations kick in. We are in the process of identifying these companies (this is not sector specific). Once we find them, we are going to provide outreach which looks at P2 as a way to reduce regulatory burden and the like. One problem (opportunity??), NH does not have a mandatory planning law, so P2 planning is a voluntary thing. As part of this project, we will be developing/compiling an "easy to read" P2 planning document that will hopefully convince companies that it is important to do P2 planning despite it not being mandatory in NH. Here's my request: Do any of the states out there without a mandatory P2 Planning requirement have P2 guidance documents that we can scan for some ideas? If so, might I be so bold as to request a copy or at least chat with you about your experiences? Thanks in advance, Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** Dina Li Pollution Prevention Specialist SAIC 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 16:10:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA00754 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:10:24 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:07:14 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:29:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: TASTES LIKE (DEAD) CHICKEN To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:07:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D93ZWRGD158Y X400-Mts-Identifier: [;41709032107991/494000@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net FROM: R. ILLIG RE: DEAD CHICKENS If "an ounce of prevention..." holds water, perhaps we should start thinking about ostrich and emu farms, NOW. We may have to resort to genetically engineered 'gators. How about piranha? (Is that fishing for a solution or what?) Ric From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 16:11:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA00915 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:11:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:11:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701232111.QAA00915@cedar.cic.net> From: "Kennedy, Judith C." To: p2tech Subject: RE: P2 in hotels and restaurants Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The American Motel and Hotel Assoc. (517-353-5500) has written The Hotel Green Buying Guide, which also contains many waste reduction tips. Green Seal (202-331-7337) has a list of hotel products they certify. There's also "The Environmental Resource Guide, by the American Institute of Architects, from John Wiley and Sons (1-800-879-4539). Judy Kennedy Washington State Department of Ecology Hazardous Waste & Toxics Reduction Program P.O.Box 47600 Olympia, WA 98504-7600 (360) 407-6744 FAX (360) 407-6715 jken461@ecy.wa.gov ---------- From: p2tech-owner To: p2tech Subject: P2 in hotels and restaurants Date: Thursday, January 23, 1997 11:15AM Dear p2techs, I ask again for your help. I am looking for information about pollution prevention and waste minimization in hotels and restaurants industry. Any information would be very useful. Thanks, Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona (Spain) e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es tf: +3434147090 fax: +3434144582 From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 16:49:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA04585 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:49:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E7F917.1CA2@ci.lincoln.ne.us> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:49:43 -0800 From: cschroeder Organization: Lincoln-Lancaster County Health X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example References: <9700228539.AA853995425@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Robert S Butner wrote: > > I realize we're beating a dead horse here (or rather, a dead chicken....) but > I've been wondering: what does he feed his dead ALLIGATORS to? I'm sure some > of them die prematurely, and even if not, there's got to be butchering wastes. > > Hmmmm.... > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Chickens and Gators - Another Example > Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet > Date: 1/22/97 8:01 PM > > The following was quoted in the Saturday, January 18, 1997 Buffalo Evening News > farm > column: > > "Mark Glass of Camilla, GA raises 350,000 chickens a year, losing about 21,000 > to > illness. He has a novel disposal method, but it's not for everybody. He feeds > the dead > chickens to the 1,200 growing, hungry and aggressive alligators he raises in a > watery > enclosure the size of a football field. His alligator farm is just a year old, > but by > next year, when the alligators reach a six-foot length, he plans to sell their > meat and > hides." > > Duane Mazur > mazurdjm@worldnet.att.net Maybe he feeds the dead alligaters and/or butchering wastes back to the live alligaters, thus creating a closed loop system. Chris Schroeder From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 17:09:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA06506 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:09:45 -0500 (EST) From: "DINA LI" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:17:28 EST Subject: Re: P2 in hotels and restaurants X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I only have anecdotal information on p2 in hotels and restaurants, but it might help you get started: some of the Holiday Inn facilities in the U.S. give guests the option of NOT changing the bedsheets and towels on a daily basis (I stayed in one that had this policy in Houston, TX) similar to some German hotels I've stayed in. The Holiday Inn also had installed thermostats that adjusted the room temperature when the guest returned to the room avoiding the wasted electricity associated with leaving the A/C or heat on when the room is empty. Also, the Marriott Hotel chain has done some p2 work. There may be a national trade association of hotels that could provide you with more information. Also, the EPA's Waste Wise program probably has information because they've worked with a wide variety of businesses (703) 308-7273 or 1-800-EPA-WISE. Dina Li Pollution Prevention Specialist SAIC 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 17:20:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA07351 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: Finresorce@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:19:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970123171845_2057608576@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: electricity consumption meters Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Your assistance is greatly needed on the following case study: Background: From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 17:32:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA08138 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:32:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E80401.1DFD@max.state.ia.us> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:36:17 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: P2 assessment training Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net As you can probably tell by some of my recent questions, the Iowa Waste Reduction Assistance Program (WRAP) is trying to improve our overall program. I have another request for information. We are requesting recommendations on organizations that provide on-site pollution prevention assessment training. You can send your responses to: Elizabeth Hick ehicks@max.state.ia.us or phone 515-281-8927 Thanks so much, you have been a great help. Cherri Bates From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 20:38:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id UAA19513 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 20:38:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701240138.RAA23479@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> From: "Michael L. Carre" To: Subject: Hazardous Waste Minimization Plans on the Net Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:32:12 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anybody on the list know of any websites that have their institution's HazWaste Minimization plan available for viewing, or perhaps a sample plan? I understand that each company's HW Min plan will be unique in the areas of wastestreams, goals, implementation plans, etc., but I'd really like to see how other P2 professionals have documented their program. Thanks in advance, Michael Carre ---------- > From: Richard Illig (717) 327-3568 > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: TASTES LIKE (DEAD) CHICKEN > Date: Thursday, January 23, 1997 5:29 AM > > FROM: R. ILLIG > RE: DEAD CHICKENS > > If "an ounce of prevention..." holds water, perhaps we should > start thinking about ostrich and emu farms, NOW. > > We may have to resort to genetically engineered 'gators. How > about piranha? (Is that fishing for a solution or what?) > > Ric > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 23 23:04:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id XAA26335 for p2tech-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:04:23 -0500 (EST) X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=or.gov/; converted ( IA5-Text); Relayed; 23 Jan 1997 17:33:22 -0800 X400-Received: by mta Salem-MTA1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=or.gov/; converted ( IA5-Text); Relayed; 23 Jan 1997 17:33:22 -0800 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=or.gov/; 0507332E81162003-Salem-MTA1] Content-Identifier: 0507332E81162003 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Marianne.FITZGERALD@state.or.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0507332E81162003*/c=us/admd= /prmd=or.gov/o=DEQ/ou=MSMail/s=FITZGERALD/g=Marianne/"@MHS> Date: 23 Jan 1997 17:33:22 -0800 From: "FITZGERALD Marianne" To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested), "Vince Perelli" (Return requested) Subject: RE: P2 Planning Documents MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Last year Oregon did a Limited VOC Amnesty Project, where we contacted small air sources who were likely to be out of compliance and gave them an opportunity to bring their emissions below the air permit threshold through P2 without penalties for operating without a permit. Although Oregon does have a TUR facility planning law, we developed a simple 8-page form for the pollution prevention portion of the project which was tailored toward VOC reduction. The final report includes the P2 forms, as well as the enforcement agreements we used to bring them under the threshold without civil penalties. This effort removed about 70 tons of VOCs from the Portland airshed. I could send you a copy of the report if you think it would be useful to your project. Our hazardous waste TA programs also have some innovative ideas for your project, but they are just testing them out and I don't have any results to share in writing yet. Give me a call we can discuss. Marianne Fitzgerald Oregon DEQ 811 SW Sixth Portland, OR 97204 (503) 229-5946 fax (503) 229-5850 marianne.fitzgerald@state.or.us ---------- From: Vince Perelli[SMTP:perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 1997 11:33AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: FITZGERALD Marianne Subject: P2 Planning Documents P2 Techers: Thanks for the info. regarding the DOT line painting operations - I have some leads to follow and if I get some good stuff, I will share it with anyone interested. On a totally unrelated note, I have a basic request for a new project we are starting up. It's called the "Borderline Project." The purpose of the project is to identify those facilities that are just above and below the regulatory thresholds for large and small hazardous waste generators (in NH SQGS or those companies less than 100kgs/month and Full Quantity Generators include anyone above this amount) as well as those that are in a similar situation in the air program. As we all know, once you go over the "line," more regulations kick in. We are in the process of identifying these companies (this is not sector specific). Once we find them, we are going to provide outreach which looks at P2 as a way to reduce regulatory burden and the like. One problem (opportunity??), NH does not have a mandatory planning law, so P2 planning is a voluntary thing. As part of this project, we will be developing/compiling an "easy to read" P2 planning document that will hopefully convince companies that it is important to do P2 planning despite it not being mandatory in NH. Here's my request: Do any of the states out there without a mandatory P2 Planning requirement have P2 guidance documents that we can scan for some ideas? If so, might I be so bold as to request a copy or at least chat with you about your experiences? Thanks in advance, Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 07:06:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id HAA09380 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:06:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701241206.AA26782@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: Chicken, Chicken, Who's Got The Chicken? Date: Fri Jan 24 06:29:34 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The following is a unpaid, nonpublic announcement that does not necessarily reflect the views of the Agency. Question: Why did the chicken cross the road? Answer: To get away from P2 experts and hungry alligators. I would imagine that the person with the gator farm has few friends and enemies. Art Coleman Ohio EPA From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 08:45:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA13100 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:45:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701241345.AA04714@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Lin Krause ) To: Subject: re:P2 planning Date: Fri Jan 24 08:44:07 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vince- the Ohio EPA has a step by step guide for businesses and other facilities to develop a P2 program and perform an assessment of their operations. It is called "Ohio P2 and Waste Minimization Planning Guidance Manual" or for short "the green book." I can send you a copy. You can preview a summary and the table of contents at : www.epa.ohio.gov/opp/guide/p2pbgn.html. ljk lin_krause@central.epa.ohio.gov (614) 644-2811. From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 09:45:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA16767 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:45:13 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:04:23 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:44:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: P2 Planning Documents To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:03:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D49ZWRHCY091 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;32409042107991/495783@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net FROM: R. Illig RE: P2 Planning Documents Although some states may have mandatory requirements for P2 planning (a source reduction strategy (SRS) in Pa.(residual waste form 25R)), there is a big difference between having a plan and actually DOING P2. In Pa. there is no law to mandate execution of the plan...I guess if a company does the planning, correctly, the obvious benefits (cost savings+) ought to push the project into reality. (In this case, a facility SRS often tells one more about the facility's state-of-mind rather than real P2 planning or execution.) Does any state actually require a measurable reduction in waste generation for hazardous or residual waste? Ric From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 10:42:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA21816 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:42:27 -0500 (EST) >Received: by omnic.com; Fri, 24 Jan 97 09:36:00 Message-ID: <7D6BE832818E6BD1@omnic.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 09:36:00 From: "Scott R. Simpson" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: fwd: Long Distance Learning X-Mailer: UGate [Ver. 2.02] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ======== Original Message ======== >Reply-To: Safety >Sender: Safety >To: SAFETY@UVMVM.UVM.EDU At 13:43 01/23/97 -0500, you wrote: >======== Original Message ======== >>To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >>Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net >>Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > >Does anyone have information on costs associated with long distance >learning. I am trying to work with some one on offering a course using >something like picture tel. The course attendees and instructors would >have both visual and audio capabilities at both locations. >Thanks for any help. ============== The cost of isdn lines are dependent on how many yo have in operation We have 6 that run a a speed of 384 kbps. When you call the phone co ( long distance provider) and ask how much the charges are between points a and b dont forget to multiply the line charges by the number of isdn lines you have. Switched 56 works the same way just not a digital service. ie if you pay 10 cents a minute for the call and you have a 128 kbps line yo have two phone numbers attached to the equipment, so it's really 20 c a min. plus the TV camera and the software and the monitor or if in a conference room setting a product such as a VTEL (brand name) can cost upwards of 40,000 dollars American. Does this help? or just raise more questions? Ken > >Judy Jakobsen >SCWA P2 Program >4060 Sunrise Highway >Oakdale, New York 11769 >======== Fwd by: Scott R. Simp ======== >Speaking of the p2tech line, I got this in today's mail and Judy asked me to >pass it along to the Safety list. If anyone has any info. on this you may >reply to the safety list & I'll foward it or to p2tech@great-lakes.net. > >Thanks > >Scott Simpson >Safety Engineer >Omni-Circuits, Inc >Glenview, IL >scotts@omnic.com >847-729-7280 > Ken Wieringo TV/IS Engineer Phones Local = 540-857-7584 Roanoke Valley Graduate Center VT campus = 13855 117 West Church Avenue Fax = 540-857-7371 Roanoke VA 24011-1905 Alt email = rvgc2@vt.edu Email = rvgc2@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu at UVA = kew6x@virginia.edu Amateur Radio n4lyo ======== Fwd by: Scott R. Simp ======== Here is one response that I got when I fowarded Judy's original message to a safety e-mail bulletin board. I'll foward anymore replies. Scott Simpson Safety Engineer Omni-Circuits, Inc Glenview, IL scotts@omnic.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 11:01:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA23313 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:01:06 -0500 (EST) From: EnvSrc@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:00:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970124105920_1993607045@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Long distance learning Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I forwarded the info about long distance learning to the Forum - a group sponsored by the National Environmental Training Association. I obtained the following reply and am passing it on. You might try to contact Connie Callan at the University of New Mexico, 505-277-7750. She has produced several distance learning programs in the past. I am unsure if she is still there, but this is all that I have. Alice Megna EnvSrc@aol.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 11:46:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA26586 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:46:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:46:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701241646.LAA05314@lucius.ultra.net> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Re: P2 Planning Documents Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Vince, You do have a copy of the MA planning guidance by DEP, the MA OTA publication "A Practical Guide to Toxics use reduction" and the "TUR Planner Curriculum?" These materials lay out pretty clearly the facility planning required under the Massachusetts Toxics use Reduction Act. > >P2 Techers: > >Thanks for the info. regarding the DOT line painting operations - I have >some leads to follow and if I get some good stuff, I will share it with >anyone interested. > >On a totally unrelated note, I have a basic request for a new project we are >starting up. It's called the "Borderline Project." The purpose of the >project is to identify those facilities that are just above and below the >regulatory thresholds for large and small hazardous waste generators (in NH >SQGS or those companies less than 100kgs/month and Full Quantity Generators >include anyone above this amount) as well as those that are in a similar >situation in the air program. As we all know, once you go over the "line," >more regulations kick in. > >We are in the process of identifying these companies (this is not sector >specific). Once we find them, we are going to provide outreach which looks >at P2 as a way to reduce regulatory burden and the like. One problem >(opportunity??), NH does not have a mandatory planning law, so P2 planning >is a voluntary thing. As part of this project, we will be >developing/compiling an "easy to read" P2 planning document that will >hopefully convince companies that it is important to do P2 planning despite >it not being mandatory in NH. > >Here's my request: Do any of the states out there without a mandatory P2 >Planning requirement have P2 guidance documents that we can scan for some >ideas? If so, might I be so bold as to request a copy or at least chat with >you about your experiences? > >Thanks in advance, > >Vince Perelli > >***************************************************** > >Vincent R. Perelli >New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services >Pollution Prevention Program >6 Hazen Drive >Concord, NH 03301-6509 >phone: 603 271-2902 >fax: 603 271-2456 >perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com > >A thought from E.F. Shumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see >the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods >of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style >designed for permanence" > >****************************************************** > >Dina Li >Pollution Prevention Specialist >SAIC >11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 >(703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 >dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com > > Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org Check out the NBEN interactive site at http://www.nben.org and... P2Gems, a web search tool at http://www.uml.edu/turi/ From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 11:51:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA27096 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:51:36 -0500 (EST) From: EnvSrc@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:50:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970124105919_1892943237@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Fwd: Long Distance Learning Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This response came from the National Environmetnal Training Association forum. Alice Megna EnvSrc@aol.com --------------------- Forwarded message: From: pchase@ehs-training.org (pchase) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net CC: EnvSrc@aol.com (Alice Megna) Date: 97-01-23 18:21:21 EST Response to: Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program 4060 Sunrise Highway Oakdale, New York 11769 I saw your request about distance learning on the Training Forum of the National Environmental Training Association (NETA). My name is Pam Chase and I work for NETA as Director of Media Services. I will be happy to answer any questions you might have. You can reach me at (405) 848-2904. Let me also refer you to a person in your area who produces a lot of business television and long distance learning programing. George Cauttero is an officer in the professional association I belong to as a video producer--the International Television Association (ITVA). Being in New York, he can provide local assitance for your training needs. I hope this is useful and please let me know how I can help. From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 12:05:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA28265 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:05:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 11:04:52 CST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu (Jan Hygnstrom) Subject: Re: fwd: Long Distance Learning Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In regard to long distance learning, at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln we have a great human resource on Telecast Teaching. Jim King has been involved with the topic by teaching a course on it, as well as using it as a teaching method. I don't know if he's into the $ behind it, but he may be able to help out with other aspects. Jim is at (402) 472-3022. >> >>Does anyone have information on costs associated with long distance >>learning. I am trying to work with some one on offering a course using >>something like picture tel. The course attendees and instructors would >>have both visual and audio capabilities at both locations. >>Thanks for any help. Jan Hygnstrom, Extension Assistant University of Nebraska-Lincoln (402) 472-9614 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 12:12:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA28845 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:12:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 11:12:37 CST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu (Jan Hygnstrom) Subject: Re: Chicken, Chicken, Who's Got The Chicken? Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I had to add to the discussion on chickens and alligators. In response to the closed loop alligator system (feed dead alligators to live alligators), this probably wouldn't or shouldn't be done, because of the possibility of transmitting parasites, diseases, etc. Just think of the mad cow syndrome in Great Britain. They have a problem because dead cows were processed and fed to other cows... a direct line for pathogens to the same type of host. Jan Hygnstrom, Extension Assistant University of Nebraska-Lincoln (402) 472-9614 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 13:04:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA03662 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:04:55 -0500 (EST) From: krm@envirosense.com (Ken Monroe) To: Subject: Re: Chicken, Chicken, Who's Got The Chicken? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:07:47 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970124180131.AAA930@oeca2.com> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Yeah but... alligators are naturally caniballistic (how d'ya speel that?) and cows aren't. I wonder if that makes a difference? ---------- > From: Jan Hygnstrom > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Chicken, Chicken, Who's Got The Chicken? > Date: Friday, January 24, 1997 12:12 PM > > I had to add to the discussion on chickens and alligators. In response to > the closed loop alligator system (feed dead alligators to live alligators), > this probably wouldn't or shouldn't be done, because of the possibility of > transmitting parasites, diseases, etc. Just think of the mad cow syndrome > in Great Britain. They have a problem because dead cows were processed and > fed to other cows... a direct line for pathogens to the same type of host. > > > Jan Hygnstrom, Extension Assistant > University of Nebraska-Lincoln > (402) 472-9614 > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 13:38:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA06627 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:38:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 12:38:22 CST Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu (Jan Hygnstrom) Subject: Re: Chicken, Chicken, Who's Got The Chicken? Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Yeah but... alligators are naturally caniballistic (how d'ya speel that?) >and cows aren't. I wonder if that makes a difference? I don't think it does, as the human cannibals in New Guinea or somewhere were the ones that had the Jacob's Kreitzenkugle (I don't know what the last word is, but it starts with K) syndrome, which is the mad cow syndrome, so I think cannabalistic tendencies don't protect a species. Jan Hygnstrom, Extension Assistant University of Nebraska-Lincoln (402) 472-9614 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 16:11:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA19689 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:11:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:11:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701242111.QAA19689@cedar.cic.net> From: "Peter Crawford" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Enough with the chickens already Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net O.K., Enough with the chickens and allegators already, your clogging up everyones e:mail. Peter Crawford Vermont Small Business Development Center Environmental assistance for Business,Program Director at VTC Randolph, Vermont From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 16:29:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA21027 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:28:52 -0800 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <199712416262641@ix.netcom.com> Subject: P2 in air and water permits and inspections X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.0, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Looking for info. on ways pollution prevention is being incorporated into permits or folded into inspections under air and water programs. Will be used to update EPA OSW/Region 4 P2 Training Handbook. Concept of Handbook is to share ideas on variety of approaches states and regions are using, with specific examples of what's been successful. Interested in hearing about: a) approaches to encourage P2 through permitting or inspection processes; b) requirements to incorporate P2 elements in permits; c) actual case examples, either short anecdotes or more complete studies. Appreciate responses with either specific information or suggestions of source reports or people to talk to. Respond to Eric Voogt or Bob Kerr at: e-mail kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com phone: 703-476-0710 fax: 703-476-0711 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 17:29:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA25542 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:29:07 -0500 (EST) Date: 24 Jan 97 17:26:25 EST From: Tyrone Foster <102262.2671@compuserve.com> To: LISTSERVER P2TECH , LISTSERVER P2TRAINER Subject: Reply to: Long Distance Learning Message-ID: <970124222625_102262.2671_BHB126-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: INTERNET:Pat_Gallagher@nmenv.state.nm.us, INTERNET:Pat_Gallagher@nmenv.state.nm.us TO: (unknown), 102262,2671 DATE: 1/23/97 2:37 PM RE: Reply to: Long Distance Learning CEO comments: From: Pat Gallagher: Date: ## 01/23/97 12:20 ## Please contact Connie Callen @the Waste Education and Reduction Consortium in New Mexico at 505-272-7750. Pat Gallagher New Mexico Environment Department Preceeding Message: From: 102262.2671@compuserve.com:smtp Date: ## 01/23/97 12:16 ## See document for message. From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 17:45:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA26624 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:45:47 -0500 (EST) From: Pat_Gallagher@nmenv.state.nm.us Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 15:36:38 mst Message-Id: <9701242036.AA00157@eidhub.nmenv.state.nm.us> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Long distance learning Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message: I must have sent this to the wrong address a couple days ago. For information on long distance learning, contact Connie Callen at the National Environmental Technology Network with the University of New Mexico. The correct phone number (sorry Alice, yours was on digit off...) is 505-272-7750. Pat GAllagher New Mexico Environment Department From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 19:15:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA00798 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:15:56 -0500 (EST) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199701250015.QAA18798@netcom17.netcom.com> Subject: Re: P2 in air and water permits and inspections To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:15:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199712416262641@ix.netcom.com> from "kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com" at Jan 24, 97 01:28:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In the early '90s Campbell and Carpenter at the University of California Extension, Riverside produced a series of modules on waste min assessment for inspectors and generators for the California Department of Toxic Substances Control and the US EPA. Sample title: "Waste Minimization Assessment Procedures: Module II. Unit 1. Waste Minimization Assessment Procedures for the Inspectors with Self-testing Exercises." Names of contacts at the DTSC that were involved in the modules (all in the Alternative Technology Division) are Kathryn Barwick, Dave Hartley, Robert Ludwig, and Kim Wilhelm. ==================================================================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. ==================================================================== From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 24 19:54:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA02193 for p2tech-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:54:33 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: www.ibm.net: uucp set sender to using -f Message-ID: <32E95980.353D@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:53:21 -0800 From: Thomas Barron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com CC: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 in air and water permits P2 in air and water permits Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The Palo Alto Regional Water Quality Control Plant modified its industrial sewer ordinance to require P2 measures at metal finishing firms and circuit board shops. In behalf of the City, I wrote a report that describes the process that we went through (involving stakeholders, offering dischargers a choice, etc.), and showed some of the sites in a P2 video (the same one that you saw last year in draft form). Let me know if you would like a copy of the report and final video. Tom Barron 3351 Beechwood Drive Lafayette, CA 94549 (510) 283-8121 FAX 283-6746 From p2tech-owner Sat Jan 25 19:56:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA17657 for p2tech-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 19:56:17 -0500 (EST) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 25 Jan 1997 18:45:20 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 25 Jan 1997 18:45:20 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 035B632EA9B10872-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 035B632EA9B10872 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"035B632EA9B10872*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 25 Jan 1997 18:45:20 -0500 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: P2Tech (Return requested), "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: RE: electricity consumption meters MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >How about older technology units that are being discontinued, is there some >potential for selling these as working units? perhaps in other countries? I would think free, or very cheap, working electric meters would be useful for large buildings or campuses desiring to "sub-meter" their electric use. (Examples: building by building electric use at a college, floor by floor use in a large office building owned by one company, shop area by shop area in a factory.) I realize that the price of the electric meter is often the smallest reason NOT to do sub-metering. The price of a new meter is usually small compared to the price of the electrician's labor to install it, and very few buildings have enough space on the wall to accomodate a meter - where you want to install it. However, cheap meters whose only "defect" is that they are being replaced by a new style could easily tip the balance in many cases and allow an organization to do some sub-metering. Peter T. Moulton Office of Innovation and Assistance State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-2814 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: Finresorce@aol.com[SMTP:Finresorce@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 1997 3:31 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: electricity consumption meters Hi P2 Techers, Your experienced and educated advice is needed regarding the following case study. Background: What is referred to by "electricity consumption meter" is the glass-covered device you see hanging on the side of your house that monitors the kilowatts consumed, thus the basis of your monthly electric bill. Periodically these meters must be tested, refurbished, repaired, discarded, etc. Meter repair facilities (typically owned by the electric utility) may process a few hundred to thousands per week. Units that no longer function properly, or that are of older technology designated for replacement, are discarded. The glass cover is removed and typically landfilled since the stainless steel ring is not easy to remove (spot-welded in place). The remaining carcass is typically sold for mixed scrap metal value at 1.5 cents per pound (dependent on location). Questions: Generally, how might meter repair shops (or brokers acting on their behalf) earn additional revenue and conserve addtional resources through management of these scrap meters? Is anyone aware of 'bolt recycling facilities,' i.e., facilities that collect, sort, re-sell used bolts? (There may be 20-30 small bolts in each meter.) Is there any value in the small transformers that are present? How about older technology units that are being discontinued, is there some potential for selling these as working units? perhaps in other countries? Any ideas regarding the glass covers? (perhaps crush the glass, thus making the ring separable and recyclable, along with the glass?) Thanks in advance; your input is greatly appreciated, Charlie Davis Finite Resources, Inc. 803 River Road Austin, Texas 78734 512-263-5053, fax 2269 From p2tech-owner Sun Jan 26 07:39:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id HAA01669 for p2tech-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 07:39:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 15:37:15 PST From: Dan Lando Subject: RE: P2 in air and water permits P2 in air and water permits To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear Mr. Barron. I would appreciate very much your sending us the Video tape on P2. My full address is: IAI B/G int'l airport. ISRAEL 70100 Attn.: Dr. D. Lando Eng. Center 4485 Regards Dr. D. Lando Project Manager - Environmental Compliance ISRAEL AIRCRAFT IND. LTD. --- On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:53:21 -0800 Thomas Barron wrote: The Palo Alto Regional Water Quality Control Plant modified its industrial sewer ordinance to require P2 measures at metal finishing firms and circuit board shops. In behalf of the City, I wrote a report that describes the process that we went through (involving stakeholders, offering dischargers a choice, etc.), and showed some of the sites in a P2 video (the same one that you saw last year in draft form). Let me know if you would like a copy of the report and final video. Tom Barron 3351 Beechwood Drive Lafayette, CA 94549 (510) 283-8121 FAX 283-6746 -----------------End of Original Message----------------- ------------------------------------- Name: Dr. Dan Lando Project Manager - Corporate Environment Compliance E-mail: Dan Lando Date: 1/26/97 Time: 03:37:15 PM . ------------------------------------- From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 03:32:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id DAA12597 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 03:32:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32ECE66F.6DBA@cipn.es> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:31:27 -0800 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives Organization: Centre for Cleaner Production Iniciatives X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech Subject: P2 in hotels - Thanks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear p2techs! I would like to thank you for your help in my search about p2 in hotels and restaurants. Thank you very much!!! Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 10:00:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA25078 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: monosmic@deq.state.mi.us Message-Id: <199701271459.JAA29663@dnrserver1.dnr.state.mi.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 11:02:17 -0500 Subject: P2 in Water Permits To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Techies: Eric Voogt and Bob Kerr were looking for ways that pollution prevention is being incorporated into air and water permitting and inspection programs. In Michigan, we recently conducted training for over 500 regulatory staff on how to integrate pollution prevention into their day-to-day job responsibilities. As a result of the training, our Surface Water Quality Division is in the process of amending the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permit applications to encourage p2. The applications will contain the following "advertisement" for p2: "Preventing Pollution is the Best Solution The Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) encourages you to consider pollution prevention alternatives. In some cases pollution prevention may allow you to avoid the need to discharge pollutants which would otherwise require permit limitations--or even avoid the need for permits altogether! Pollution prevention can: *Save Money *Reduce Waste *Aid Permit Compliance *Protect our Environment *Improve Corporate Image *Reduce Liability The DEQ is helping Michigan's industries save money, reduce waste and protect our environment through pollution prevention. DEQ staff can provide pollution prevention assistance through telephone consultations, technical workshops and seminars, and informational publications. They can also put you directly in touch with local support networks and national pollution prevention resources. For more information, contact the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, Environmental Assistance Division, at 1-800-662-9278 or visit our homepage at http://www.deq.state.mi.us" Surface Water Quality Division is also planning to include similar "advertisements" for p2 within the permits. I think it's great that the regulatory staff within the division proposed and implementated this change! Carrie Monosmith Environmental Quality Analyst Michigan Dept of Environmental Quality email: monosmic@deq.state.mi.us Environmental Assistance Division phone: 517-373-0604 Town Center fax: 517-373-3675 PO Box 30457 333 S. Capital Avenue Lansing, MI 48909-7957 From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 10:02:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA25319 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:02:45 -0500 (EST) >Received: by conpro.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 0438 for p2tech@great-lakes.net; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:04:14 -0500 From: mac@conpro.com (Mac Allen) To: Subject: Sources of Plastic Beads for Childrens' Art Center Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:04:14 -0500 X-MAILER: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-MKSIA-SN: 3990448426 Message-Id: <854377454.7054@conpro.com> Content-Type: text Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone have any ideas about where a childrens' art center can find plastic beads to make stuffed animals? They would like to find some pretty fine pellets, but they are not picky. I have found some at a small compounder, but they need more. -- Mac Allen President, Conpro Corporation Makers of ChemAcct(R) Performance Management Systems (910) 454-3395 FAX (910) 454-7263 mac@conpro.com From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 10:50:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA29626 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:50:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:49:50 -0600 From: KENNY D STEWARD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Sources of Plastic Beads for Childrens' Art Center -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_C29111BA.AACBA67E" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_C29111BA.AACBA67E Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mac, Do you have dimensions? If they are looking for fine powder, they might contact someone doing plastic media blasting in place of sandblasting (e.g. Allied Signal - Kansas City). Kenny Steward Pollution Prevention Pantex Plant >>> Mac Allen 01/27/97 09:04am >>> Does anyone have any ideas about where a childrens' art center can find plastic beads to make stuffed animals? They would like to find some pretty fine pellets, but they are not picky. I have found some at a small compounder, but they need more. -- Mac Allen President, Conpro Corporation Makers of ChemAcct(R) Performance Management Systems (910) 454-3395 FAX (910) 454-7263 mac@conpro.com --=_C29111BA.AACBA67E Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from cedar.cic.net by interlock.pantex.com with SMTP id AA03001 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:32:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA25319 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:02:45 -0500 (EST) >Received: by conpro.com (MKS Internet Anywhere) id 0438 for p2tech@great-lakes.net; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:04:14 -0500 X-Mailer: MKS Internet Anywhere - Compose 1.2 X-Mksia-Sn: 3990448426 Message-Id: <854377454.7054@conpro.com> Sender: owner-p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:04:14 -0600 From: Mac Allen To: mac%conpro.com@internet.pantex.com, p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Subject: Sources of Plastic Beads for Childrens' Art Center Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone have any ideas about where a childrens' art center can find plastic beads to make stuffed animals? They would like to find some pretty fine pellets, but they are not picky. I have found some at a small compounder, but they need more. -- Mac Allen President, Conpro Corporation Makers of ChemAcct(R) Performance Management Systems (910) 454-3395 FAX (910) 454-7263 mac@conpro.com --=_C29111BA.AACBA67E-- From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 11:04:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA00960 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:04:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:04:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701271604.LAA20166@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: tgreiner@tiac.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: tgreiner@tiac.net (tgreiner) Subject: Re: P2 Planning Documents Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > FROM: R. Illig > RE: P2 Planning Documents > > Although some states may have mandatory requirements for P2 > planning (a source reduction strategy (SRS) in Pa.(residual waste > form 25R)), there is a big difference between having a plan and > actually DOING P2. In Pa. there is no law to mandate execution of > the plan...I guess if a company does the planning, correctly, the > obvious benefits (cost savings+) ought to push the project into > reality. (In this case, a facility SRS often tells one more about > the facility's state-of-mind rather than real P2 planning or > execution.) > > Does any state actually require a measurable reduction in waste > generation for hazardous or residual waste? > > Ric > Yes, the state of Maine has specific reduction requirements under its planning statute. Tim ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Timothy J. Greiner MBA, MCP Greiner Environmental 2 Emily Lane Gloucester, MA 01930 tel: 508-525-2214 fax: 508-525-2247 e-mail: tgreiner@tiac.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 11:46:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA04447 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: Svplink@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:46:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970127114252_647439256@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Alligators, like rugby players, eat their dead. From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 12:28:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA07754 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:28:43 -0500 (EST) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 27 Jan 1997 12:25:14 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 27 Jan 1997 12:25:14 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 04C3032ECE4FA1B4-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 04C3032ECE4FA1B4 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"04C3032ECE4FA1B4*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 27 Jan 1997 12:25:14 -0500 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: "kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com" (Return requested), P2Tech (Return requested), "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: RE: P2 in air and water permits and inspections MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net See if you can contact Rich Bizzozero at the Massachusetts Office of Technical Assistance. He gave a very good talk at the Fall 1995 Conference of the National Pollution Prevention Roundtable (NPPR) in Miami Beach on Wednesday 6 December 1995. The session was titled "P2 in Permitting: Impact on Regulatory Requirements". He had at least 20 good, solid, examples of how air permits written by the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection had incorporated P2 practices. His address in December 1995 was Rich Bizzozero, Engineer Massachusetts OTA 100 Cambridge St. Suite 2109 Boston, MA 02202 tel. (617) 772-7326 fax (617) 727-3827 his email address from a web page ( http://www.state.ma.us/ota/ota.htm ) on 27 Jan 97 was rbizzoze_eoea@state.ma.us Peter T. Moulton Office of Innovation and Assistance State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-2814 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com[SMTP:kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Friday, January 24, 1997 5:05 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 in air and water permits and inspections Looking for info. on ways pollution prevention is being incorporated into permits or folded into inspections under air and water programs. Will be used to update EPA OSW/Region 4 P2 Training Handbook. Concept of Handbook is to share ideas on variety of approaches states and regions are using, with specific examples of what's been successful. Interested in hearing about: a) approaches to encourage P2 through permitting or inspection processes; b) requirements to incorporate P2 elements in permits; c) actual case examples, either short anecdotes or more complete studies. Appreciate responses with either specific information or suggestions of source reports or people to talk to. Respond to Eric Voogt or Bob Kerr at: e-mail kerrasoc@ix.netcom.com phone: 703-476-0710 fax: 703-476-0711 From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 13:02:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA10551 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:02:47 -0500 (EST) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Andrew Reynolds" Organization: RTC Sligo Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:01:24 +00 Subject: Re: Chickens and Gators - Another Example X-Mailer: WinPMail v1.0 (R2) Message-Id: <7BCB3B0852@S4.rtc-sligo.ie> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Is this mailing list about scientific stuff or Chickens and Gators ?????? Anew Member From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 13:47:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA14355 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:47:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701271847.KAA08228@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> From: "Michael L. Carre" To: "Safety Listserver" , "P2 Listserver" Subject: Hazardous Waste Minimization Plans on the Net Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:40:49 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anybody on the list know of any websites that have their institution's HazWaste Minimization plan available for viewing, or perhaps a sample plan? I understand that each company's HW Min plan will be unique in the areas of wastestreams, goals, implementation plans, etc., but I'd really like to see how other P2 professionals have documented their program. Thanks in advance, Michael Carre From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 14:32:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA18362 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:32:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 14:12:11 EST Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: re: P2 in air and water permits and inspections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net THe air program here in Delaware issued a permit to the CHrysler Corporation that is basically a P2 permit. It incorporates a great deal of flexibility in return for P2 approaches to compliance both in the present and in future developments. If you would like a copy, let me know. Andrea K. Farrell Manager Pollution Prevention Program DNREC P.O. Box 1401, 89 Kings Hwy. Dover, DE 19903 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 FAX afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 15:27:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA23013 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:27:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: 27 Jan 97 15:23:09 EST From: Angie Dierks To: uunet!great-lakes.net!p2tech@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: P2 in air and water permits X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Eric and Bob: New Jersey has done some interesting work incorporating P2 into permits and has issued multimedia/P2 permits to a handful of facilities in a pilot project. Jeanne Herb at NJ DEP is the current point of contact (609-777-0518). You can also contact Steve Anderson, formerly of NJ DEP, who worked closely with many of the facilities on their permits (609-386-2380 or stevea@bellatlantic.net). Good luck, Angie Dierks Tellus Institute adierks@tellus.com From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 16:59:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA29286 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:59:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:56:47 -0600 From: Susan Roothaan To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Sources of Plastic Beads for Childrens' Art Center -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Regarding plastic media blast, make sure you check what it has been contaminated with from the blasting operation (e.g., paint chips, heavy metals). The dust or pellets would not be appropriate if contaminated with hazardous materials. Susan Roothaan, Engineer Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission, MC-112 Office of Pollution Prevention and Recycling PO Box 13087 Austin, Texas 78711-3087 phone: (512) 239-3186 fax: (512) 239-3165 e-mail: sroothaa@tnrcc.state.tx.us From p2tech-owner Mon Jan 27 17:12:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA29989 for p2tech-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:12:02 -0500 (EST) From: FITZNERW@deq.state.mi.us Message-Id: <199701272211.RAA16594@dnrserver1.dnr.state.mi.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 17:09:59 -0500 Subject: P2 in the pulp and paper industry To: nppr@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Michigan DEQ is currently participating in a pollution prevention partnership with the pulp and paper industry in our state. We kicked this off last April (see http://www.deq.state.mi.us/ead/p2sect/p5.html) and are currently in the process of establishing goals. I know the state of Wisconsin is involved in a similar effort. I am interested in whether any other states have a P2 initiative focused on this industry. In particular, I am trying to set up a resource network for the pulp and paper industry, including websites focusing on pollution prevention (waste reduction,assessment, cost accounting, etc.). I'ld appreciate both information on state programs/partnerships and general info. websites. Thanks. Wendy Wendy Fitzner Phone: 517 373 8798 Pollution Prevention Section fax: 517-339-4729 Environmental Assistance Division email: fitznerw@deq.state.mi.us Department of Environmental Quality USPS: 333 S. Capital State of Michigan P.O. Box 30457 Lansing, MI 48909 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 07:06:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id HAA01712 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:06:45 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:59:57 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:41:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: STATE MANDATORY WASTE REDUCTION REQUIREMENTS To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:59:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D22ZWRL9ZKNK X400-Mts-Identifier: [;75956082107991/500641@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net FROM: R. Illig Re: State Mandatory Waste Reduction Requirements illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us Tim Greiner responded that Maine has mandatory requirements to conduct P2...unlike some states that require completion of a form (in one case called a Source Reduction Strategy) but DO NOT require execution of a P2 plan to actually reduce waste. Tim, I would like to hear more about Maine's requirements...how they set it up; incentives or penalties toward doing, or not doing P2; as well as how business (industrial and commercial??) responded to mandatory requirements and what type of results have been attained. Any information on this topic, by Mr. Greiner or others, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ric From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 08:31:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA04969 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Douglas W. Kievit-Kylar" Organization: VT Agency of Natural Resources To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:31:06 EST Subject: Re: Hazardous Waste Minimization Plans on the Net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <9583EAD08AF@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Michael L. Carre" To: "Safety Listserver" , "P2 Listserver" Subject: Hazardous Waste Minimization Plans on the Net Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:40:49 -0800 Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anybody on the list know of any websites that have their institution's HazWaste Minimization plan available for viewing, or perhaps a sample plan? I understand that each company's HW Min plan will be unique in the areas of wastestreams, goals, implementation plans, etc., but I'd really like to see how other P2 professionals have documented their program. Thanks in advance, Michael Carre %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Michael, Vermont's largest generators of hazardous waste and toxics users all must, by law, plan for reduction and although I can not share an actual plan, I'd be happy to forward to you a copy of a sample plan or two that were done about three years ago. These would be hard copy as we've not completed our web site yet. If interested, please respond with an address. Make it a GREAT day! Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner Vermont Agency of Natural Resources Environmental Assistance Division 103 South Main Street Waterbury VT 05671-0411 phone: (802) 241-3628 FAX: (802) 241-3273 e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us "Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." -- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 09:03:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA06735 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:03:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "Sharma, Aarti" Subject: RE: P2 in the pulp and paper industry Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:03:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Wendy, On the topic of finding information sources for your project: I'd suggest looking at the P2Edge software for showing how to incorporate P2 into design -- it's free at http://w3.pnl.gov:2080/DFE/home.html Also see "A Review of Available Software for Incorporating Enviro Costs Into Decisionmaking" at http://es.inel.gov/partners/acctg/rev/toc.htm If you want to talk to someone who's been working on resource networks, you can catch up with Aarti Sharma from RTI. She has been working on a tech-transfer project with the textiles industry in NC, including setting up an electronic forum. I believe she's found a lot of the kinds of resources that you're looking for. Her number is (919) 541 6149; email Sharma@rti.org. Regards, Melissa ......................................... .......... Melissa Malkin Pollution Prevention Program Research Triangle Institute POB 12194. Research Triangle Park, N.C. 27709-2194 (ph) 919-541-6154 (fax) 919-541-7155 http://www.rti.org/units/ese/pp.html ..................................... .. ---------- From: FITZNERW@deq.state.mi.us[SMTP:FITZNERW@deq.state.mi.us] Sent: Monday, January 27, 1997 5:09 PM To: nppr@great-lakes.net; p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 in the pulp and paper industry Michigan DEQ is currently participating in a pollution prevention partnership with the pulp and paper industry in our state. We kicked this off last April (see http://www.deq.state.mi.us/ead/p2sect/p5.html) and are currently in the process of establishing goals. I know the state of Wisconsin is involved in a similar effort. I am interested in whether any other states have a P2 initiative focused on this industry. In particular, I am trying to set up a resource network for the pulp and paper industry, including websites focusing on pollution prevention (waste reduction,assessment, cost accounting, etc.). I'ld appreciate both information on state programs/partnerships and general info. websites. Thanks. Wendy Wendy Fitzner Phone: 517 373 8798 Pollution Prevention Section fax: 517-339-4729 Environmental Assistance Division email: fitznerw@deq.state.mi.us Department of Environmental Quality USPS: 333 S. Capital State of Michigan P.O. Box 30457 Lansing, MI 48909 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 09:07:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA06944 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:07:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32EE2533.1CC8@max.state.ia.us> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:11:31 -0800 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: P2 feedback form for clients Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does your program collect feedback on P2 reports or documents provided to your clients? If so, please forward a copy of your form to: Beth Hicks ehicks@max.state.ia.us or Beth Hicks Iowa Dept. of Natural Resources 900 E. Grand Ave. Des Moines, IA 50319-0034 If you have any questions or comments feel free to give her a call: 515-281-4367 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 09:59:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA10067 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:59:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:55:03 -0500 From: JAMES LOUNSBURY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 in air and water permits P2 in air and water permits -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm working on EPA's Metal Finishing CSI (Common Sense Initiative) and would like to have a copy of the report and video. My mailing address is: EPA-5302W 401 M. St. SW Washington, D.C. 20460 Thanks. From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 10:00:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10126 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:00:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:00:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701281500.KAA10126@cedar.cic.net> From: "SCHMIC%DNRLM2.decnet"@dnr.state.wi.us (Carol Neuman Schmidt, LMD) 414-492-5871) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Recycling contracts Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You might try Scott Huguet, Recycling Specialist, at 414-492-4950. He is the contact for the Brown County Material Recovery Facility. From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 10:06:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10612 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:06:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:06:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701281506.KAA10612@cedar.cic.net> From: "EADC team Blue Accnt # 7" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Reverse Osmosis Units Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello P2 techs, I am looking for a vendor list for Reverse Osmosis units. If there is any information out there on a RO unit please let me know. My E- mail address is eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu. Thank you. Patty Muthuswamy UF Industrial Assessment Center ISE Dept., 303 Weil Hall P.O.Box 116595 Gainesville, Florida 32611-6595 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 10:08:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA10867 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:08:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:08:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701281508.KAA10867@cedar.cic.net> From: rs_butner@ccmail.pnl.gov (Robert S Butner) Subject: Re: P2 in the pulp and paper industry To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Wendy -- At the Federal level, the US Dept of Energy's Office of Industrial Technologies (the same people who bring you NICE3) has focused on the Pulp/Paper/Forest Products industries as one of their "Industries of the Future" and has done a lot of work in developing industry buy-in for Clean production/efficiency related research and technology development. You can get general background on the program via the OIT web site: http://www.oit.doe.gov/IOF/forest/ You should also consider giving Gary Josephson of Pacific Northwest National Laboratory a call about the program at 509-376-4325; he is on the industry team's Environmental Task force and is well plugged-in to what they've been doing. Though this is perhaps more long-term R&D oriented than you were asking about, it would probably be worth factoring into your efforts. Hope this helps, Scott Butner ___________________________________________________ Scott Butner (butner@battelle.org) Battelle Seattle Research Center 4000 NE 41st Street Seattle, WA 98105 206-528-3290 voice/206-528-3552 fax http://www.seattle.battelle.org/P2Online/ ___________________________________________________ Michigan DEQ is currently participating in a pollution prevention partnership with the pulp and paper industry in our state. We kicked this off last April (see http://www.deq.state.mi.us/ead/p2sect/p5.html) and are currently in the process of establishing goals. I know the state of Wisconsin is involved in a similar effort. I am interested in whether any other states have a P2 initiative focused on this industry. In particular, I am trying to set up a resource network for the pulp and paper industry, including websites focusing on pollution prevention (waste reduction,assessment, cost accounting, etc.). I'ld appreciate both information on state programs/partnerships and general info. websites. Thanks. Wendy Wendy Fitzner Phone: 517 373 8798 Pollution Prevention Section fax: 517-339-4729 Environmental Assistance Division email: fitznerw@deq.state.mi.us Department of Environmental Quality USPS: 333 S. Capital State of Michigan P.O. Box 30457 Lansing, MI 48909 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 11:00:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA15324 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:00:33 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:00:11 EST Subject: Re: Reverse Osmosis Units X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <890214341A@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:06:22 -0500 (EST) From: "EADC team Blue Accnt # 7" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Reverse Osmosis Units Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Patty asks: Hello P2 techs, I am looking for a vendor list for Reverse Osmosis units. If there is any information out there on a RO unit please let me know. My E- mail address is eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu. Thank you. Patty Muthuswamy UF Industrial Assessment Center ISE Dept., 303 Weil Hall P.O.Box 116595 Gainesville, Florida 32611-6595 ************************************************************ The following is a listing of vendors: c:\Procite\vendor\reverse osmosis 1. Rec# 7280. Abcor, Inc, 850 Main St.; 617 657-4250. Wilmington, assignee. MA. 1991 Apr 27. Filters - Reverse Osmosis / Filters - Ultrafiltration /. 2. Rec# 7730. Amerdec, Inc, 90 Le Baron; 708 623-6650. Waukegan, assignee. IL. 1990 Nov 7. Ion Exchange - Deionization / Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis /. 3. Rec# 4600. CARRE, Inc, 109 Debra St., P.O. Box 1555. Seneca, assignee. SC. 1991 Apr 27. Complete Recycling Systems - Wastewater Treatment (WWT) / Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis /. 4. Rec# 7260. Cleaver Brooks, P.O. Box 421; 414 359-0600. Milwaukee, assignee. WI. Bonnie Arle. 1992 Jun 10. Filters - Reverse Osmosis / Furnaces / Boiler Systems /. 5. Rec# 20820. Coster Engineering, P. O. Box 3407; 507-625-6621. Mankato, assignee. MN. Gregory L. Grimme. 1992 Dec 14. Reverse Osmosis Systems /. 6. Rec# 11370. Crane Co. / Cochrane Environmental Systems, 800 Third Ave.; 215 265-5050. King of Prussia, assignee. PA. 1991 Apr 27. Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis /. 7. Rec# 17610. Dow Chemical Company, Larkin Center; 1-800-447-4369. Midland, assignee. MI. Neil Hershfield. 1994 Jun 9. Osmosis Membranes / Reverse Osmosis / Advanced Cleaning Systems /. 8. Rec# 17840. Ecolochem, Inc, 4545 Patent Road/P. O. Box 12775; 804-855-9000. Norfolk, assignee. VA. John C. Painter. 1992 Jun 8. Reverse Osmosis Systems Mobile Systems /. 9. Rec# 10530. Enviro-Process Systems, P.O. Box 731; 914 965-0599. Bronxville, assignee. NY. 1991 May 15. Filters - Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis /. 10. Rec# 34860. Fluid Systems, 10054 Old Grove Road; 619-695-3840 / 800-525-4369. San Diego, assignee. CA. 1996 Apr 24. Reverse Osmosis / Ultra Filtration / Water Purification /. 11. Rec# 9550. Illinois Water Treatment Co., 4669 Shepherd Tr., P.O. Box 560; 815 877-3041. Rockford, assignee. IL. 1994 Feb 16. Filters - General / Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis / Ion Exchange /. 12. Rec# 28040. Infinitex, P. O. Box 383; 716-759-6983. Clarence, assignee. NY. 1994 Feb 4. Oil-Water Emulsion Separators / Ultra Filtration / Wastewater / Separators Utilize Reverse Osmosis Technology, Separate Oil, Organic, Dye and Heavy Metals /. 13. Rec# 18770. Ionpure Technologies Corporation, 10 Technology Drive; 800-783-PURE, 508-934-9449. Lowell, assignee. MA. Don Batot, Sr. Application Specialist. 1992 Oct 1. Continuous Deionization through ion-exchange membranes, Resin Based DI, Reverse Osmosis, Filtration, Water Softeners, Carbon Filters, Manganese Greensand Filtes, Organic Scavengers) / Products and S ystems for Process Water / Water purification /. 14. Rec# 7420. Koch Membrane Systems, Inc, 850 Main St.; 508 657-4250. Wilmington, assignee. MA. Nancy E. Wheeler; Market Research Engineer / Cliff Panish, Sales Manager /. 1995 Jan 30. Filters - Ultrafiltration / Recycling / Waste Water / Water Reuse / Oily Wastewater Ultrafiltration / Hollow Fiber Membranes / Reverse Osmosis / Mebrane / Filters / Separation /. 15. Rec# 14840. M2J Enterprises, 454 S. Anderson Blvd., BTC Box 511; 803-329-9777. Rock Hill, assignee. SC. 1991 Dec 17. Ion Exchange / Dionzation / Mobile Systems / Reverse Osmosis / Softners /Carbon Adsorption / Resin Cleaners / Retrofitting / Iron Removal Systems /Heavy Metal Treatment /. 16. Rec# 4630. Memtek Corporation, 28 Cook St.; 508-667-2828 / 800-527-0433. Billerica, assignee. MA. Joseph A. Lander, Sales Engineer. 1995 Oct 4. Complete Recycling Systems - Wastewater Treatment (WWT) / Filters -General / Filters - Ultrafiltration / Heavy Metals Removal / Metal Recovery / Arsenic Removal / Electroless Copper Recovery / Flouri de Removal / Water Recycle / Cyanide Destruction / Chromium Reduction / Uranium Removal / Cutting Fluid Recycle / Batch Treatment / Oil Removal /Ion Exchange-Electrolytic Recovery Wastewater Treatmen t Systems / Recovers Copper, Lead, PWB, Memtek / Reverse Osmosis Water Recycle System / Metal Finishing / Printed Circuit Board /. 17. Rec# 20390. Millipore Corporation, P. O. Box 255; 800-645-5476. Bedford, assignee. MA. 1994 Apr 27. Water Systems Dispenser / Reverse Osmosis / Rapid Analytical Tests For Environmental Contaminants in Water, Soil and Food /. 18. Rec# 11380. Millipore Continental Water Systems, P.O. Box 20018. El Paso, assignee. TX. 800 351-2342. 1991 Apr 27. Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis /. 19. Rec# 6780. Osmonics, Inc, 5951 Clearwater Dr.; 612 933-2277 / 800-848-1750. Minnetonka, assignee. MN. 800 351-9008. 1995 Aug 30. Filters - General / Filters - Reverse Osmosis / Filters - Ultrafiltration / Oil-Coolant Recovery - General / Sepration/Filtration/Fluid Handling Equipment / Distillation/Oxonation / Microfiltration / Water Purification With Reverse Osmosis / Electrotechnologies - Ozone /. 20. Rec# 17990. Pasco, Byrne Bldg., Linclon Ave & Morgan St.; 215-983-9585. Phoenixville, assignee. PA. William D. Corr. 1993 Aug 9. Metal Recovery - General/ Electrowinning / Ion Exchange / Reverse Osmosis / Electrolytic / Water Purification Systems (Ionic Filter, Polishing filter, Expo-rinse system, electrolytic recovery unit, a lkaline cleaner saver) Clarifier, Acid Saver) / Consultants / Plating Industry / Waste Water Recovery Equipment / Waste Water Reduction Equipment / Alkaline Cleaner Recovery Equipment / Metal Recover y Equipment / Chemical Treatment Equipment /. 21. Rec# 35230. PCI Membrane Systems, 9837 West 69th Street; 612-829-9209. Eden Prairie, assignee. MN. 1996 May 2. Reverse Osmosis / Nanofiltration / Ultrafiltration / Microfiltration /. 22. Rec# 17800. RGF Environmental Systems, 3875 Fiscal Court; 407-848-1826. West Palm Beach, assignee. FL. 800-842-7771. 1994 Mar 31. Industrial Waste Water Pretreatment System / Oil Coolant Recovery - General / Turnkey Oil Contaminated Water Recycler / Activated Carbon / Aeration-Macro / Air Stripping / Chemical Flocking / Chemica l Oxidation /Clarifier / Coalescing Centrifugal Separator / Diffused Air Flotation / Evation / Gravity Separation / Hydrocarbon Absorption / Ion Exchange / Oil Water Separation / Incline Plate Coales cing Separation / Molecular Separation / Multi-Media Filter Bed / Oloephillic Oil Separator / Ozone /Polishing Membrane Filtration / Reverse Osmosis / Static Solids Separation / Ultrafiltration / Ads orbent Systems / Filtration Systems / Sorbent System To Remove Oil, Grease & Fuel From Water / Recycling and Sewer Discharge Systems / RGF Concentrator / System Removes Contaminates From Water For Wa ter Reuse / System Removes Oils, Metals, Inks, and Paints from Waste Water / Wash Water Recycling & Closed Looped /. 23. Rec# 6430. Rosedale Products, Inc, 3730 Liberty, P.O. Box 1085; 313 665-8201. Ann Arbor, assignee. MI. Daniel R. Morosky 800 821-5373. 1989 Apr 4. Filters - Bags / Filters - General / Filters - Strainers / Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis /. 24. Rec# 5660. Sanborn, Inc, 25 Commercial Dr.; 508 384-3181. Wrentham, assignee. MA. 800 343-3381. 1993 Jun 28. Centrifuges / Filters - Ultrafiltration / Oil-Coolant Recovery - Centrifugal-Vortex / Oil-Coolant Recovery - General / Triple Bowl Centrifuges / Clarifiers - General / Filters - General / Reverse Os mosis Systems / Membrane Filtration Systems / Process Recovery Systems / Fluids / Solids Removal / Water reuse / Prices / Filter System Membrane Systems /. 25. Rec# 22410. SpinTek Systems, 16421 Gothard Street, Unit A; 714-848-3060. Huntington Beach, assignee. CA. 1996 May 2. Reverse Osmosis/ Spearation / Ultra filtration / Waste Water / Microfiltration / Centrifuge Disk /. 26. Rec# 6790. UOP, Inc, 10124 Old Grove Rd.; 714 695-3840. San Diego, assignee. CA. 1991 Apr 27. Filters - General / Filters - Reverse Osmosis / Ultrafiltration /. 27. Rec# 15660. Vaponics, Inc, 20 Reservior Park Drive; 617-982-9900. Rockland, assignee. MA. Robert G. Hunter. 1992 Feb 13. Filters / Stills / Reverse Osmosis/ Ultrafiltration / Filtration Water Purification Systems /. 28. Rec# 7300. Water Equipment Technologies, Inc WET )., 832 Pike Raod; 407-684-6300. West Palm Beach, assignee. FL. 1992 Jun 9. Filters - Reverse Osmosis / Filters - Ultrafiltration / Membrane Technology /. 29. Rec# 7270. Water Systems, P.O. Box 4067; 602 488-4644. Cave Creek, assignee. AZ. 1991 Apr 27. Filters - Reverse Osmosis /. 30. Rec# 11390. Water Technology, Inc, 564 Industrial Way East; 912 743-3050. Macon, assignee. GA. 1991 Apr 27. Reverse Osmosis / Ultrafiltration / Ion Exchange /. 31. Rec# 7290. Water Technologies, Inc, 7517 Washington Ave., South; 612 941-6031. Edina, assignee. MN. Karen L. Hendrickson, Director of Sales. 1990 Nov 6. Filters - Reverse Osmosis / Solvent Recovery / Ultrafiltration /. 32. Rec# 11400. Zenon Environmental, Inc, 845 Harrington Ct.; 416 639-6320. Burlington, Ontario, assignee. Canada. 1991 Apr 27. Ultrafiltration / Reverse Osmosis /. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 11:18:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA16826 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:18:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:24:12 -0500 (EST) From: Suffolk County Water Authority To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Recycling Haulers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Thanks to all who provided me with long distance learning information. I am still looking for boiler plate contract for hiring recycling haulers. Any help appreciated Judy Jakobsen SCWA P2 Program 516-563-0306 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 11:21:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA17045 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:21:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01BC0CFC.C18D8320@ip40.isdn9.800.psi.net> From: Mike Keefe To: "'p2tech'" Subject: Petroleum Refinery Energy Use Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:22:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC0CFC.C196AAE0" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC0CFC.C196AAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am searching for information about (1) energy use/consumption by U.S. = petroleum refineries and (2) techniques/technologies used by refineries = to reduce their energy use (that is, improve their energy efficiency). Many thanks! 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Specifically regarding fuel filters, batteries, waste paint, and fluorescent lights. Thanks in advance - From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 12:41:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA23387 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:41:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Wayne Pferdehirt" Organization: Engineering Professional Developmnt To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:40:06 CST Subject: Re: P2 for Auto Dealerships X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <8DA3A13C02@epd.engr.wisc.edu> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Try CCAR at http://www.ccar-greenlink.org/ ********************************************************** Wayne P. Pferdehirt, P.E., AICP U. of Wis., Solid & Hazardous Waste Education Center 610 Langdon Street, Room 529, Madison, WI 53703-1195 Phone: 608/265-2361 Fax: 608/262-6250 pferdehi@epd.engr.wisc.edu ********************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 12:41:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA23445 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:41:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:40:37 -0600 From: KENNY D STEWARD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 for Auto Dealerships -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_B2E1633C.4C2D40E4" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_B2E1633C.4C2D40E4 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Martha, We performed a Technical Assistance Request at a local auto dealership's request. We were able to identify 4-5 major areas where they could reduce their waste generation. We provided them a list of 15 options to waste disposal and supporting cost and ordering information. I will look to assure we have a copy in the file and would be happy to mail it to you. If you would like to talk, give us a call at (806) 477-5289. We have worked hand-in-hand with our vehicle maintenance facility onsite to reduce their waste generation and improve the quality of the materials with which they work. They have really bought into P2 and have had much success. I would be happy to get you in touch with a number of people who could provide you ideas. Thanks and good luck! Kenny Steward Pollution Prevention Pantex Plant >>> Martha Arosemena 01/28/97 11:01am >>> Does anyone have any P2 information for Auto dealerships? Specifically regarding fuel filters, batteries, waste paint, and fluorescent lights. Thanks in advance - --=_B2E1633C.4C2D40E4 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from cedar.cic.net by interlock.pantex.com with SMTP id AA08974 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:24:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA19497 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:52:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Sender: owner-p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:01:25 -0600 From: Martha Arosemena To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com, MAROSEME%tnrcc.state.tx.us@internet.pantex.com Subject: P2 for Auto Dealerships Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone have any P2 information for Auto dealerships? Specifically regarding fuel filters, batteries, waste paint, and fluorescent lights. Thanks in advance - --=_B2E1633C.4C2D40E4-- From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 13:00:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA25006 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:00:25 -0500 (EST) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199701281800.KAA28009@netcom20.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Reverse Osmosis Units To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:00:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199701281506.KAA10612@cedar.cic.net> from "EADC team Blue Accnt # 7" at Jan 28, 97 10:06:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You might want to take a look at a paper about the experience of a petroleum refinery in New Mexico -- it's a really interesting case study of RO for large-scale feedwater pretreatment. Citation is: D. G. Griffin, "Feed Water Pretreatment to Reduce Process Wastewater," ENV-94-160, National Petroleum Refining Association, Washington, DC, 1994. ==================================================================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. ==================================================================== > > Hello P2 techs, > > I am looking for a vendor list for Reverse Osmosis units. If there > is any information out there on a RO unit please let me know. My E- > mail address is eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu. Thank you. > > > Patty Muthuswamy > UF Industrial Assessment Center > ISE Dept., 303 Weil Hall > P.O.Box 116595 > Gainesville, Florida 32611-6595 > > > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 13:03:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA25242 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:03:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970128180357.00c5de2c@popmail.ucsd.edu> X-Sender: masiegel@popmail.ucsd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:03:57 -0800 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Marc H. Siegel" Subject: Re: Reverse Osmosis Units Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vendors for reverse osmosis (and lots of other stuff) can be found in the Thomas Register: http://www.thomasregister.com:8000/ At 10:06 AM 1/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >Hello P2 techs, > >I am looking for a vendor list for Reverse Osmosis units. If there >is any information out there on a RO unit please let me know. My E- >mail address is eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu. Thank you. > > >Patty Muthuswamy >UF Industrial Assessment Center >ISE Dept., 303 Weil Hall >P.O.Box 116595 >Gainesville, Florida 32611-6595 > > > > =================================================================== Dr. Marc H. Siegel Engineering Process & Information Consulting 12397 Picrus Street San Diego, CA 92129-4113 Phone: 619-484-9855 Fax: 619-484-9856 E-mail: Marc_Siegel@ucsd.edu =================================================================== From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 13:30:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA27425 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:30:49 -0500 (EST) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199701281830.KAA00953@netcom20.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Petroleum Refinery Energy Use To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:30:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <01BC0CFC.C18D8320@ip40.isdn9.800.psi.net> from "Mike Keefe" at Jan 28, 97 09:22:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Alan Rossiter of Linhoff March has written a number of interesting articles on pinch technology and the gains yet to be made by the refining industry in heat integration. You may find energy usage data in some of his work. Mention heat integration to most refiners, though, and they scoff. Many of them have to flare their excess process gas -- so they have more energy than they can use. Cogeneration presents an interesting opportunity for the refineries that are in this position. The Arco in LA has a cogen facility that generates enough electricity to power the city of Long Beach. This Arco is a special case, though. They produce only fuels, so they do a lot of cracking and have more than the usual volume of process gas. Improving the energy efficiency of refineries that don't have excess process gas could involve heat integration, improving feedwater quality, or a number of process-specific techniques. Every refinery has its own feed/process water/product slate/regulatory climate/process combinations and it would be impossible to generalize. Articles and documents you might want to take a look at are "Use Pinch Analysis to Knock Down Capital Costs and Emissions" by B. Linnhoff, CEP Aug 1994; "Rank Pollution Prevention and Control Options" by A.P. Rossiter and J.D. Kumana, CEP Feb 1994; "Environmental Design Considerations for Petroleum Refining Crude Processing Units" from the API, publication no. 311, Feb 1993; and the documents put out by NTIS from the Amoco/US EPA Yorktown project (eg. PB92-228527). An EPA document on process heaters (NTIS PB94-120235) provides a list of process heat requirements per barrel of feed for a number of different refinery processes. Good luck. ==================================================================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. ==================================================================== > > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC0CFC.C196AAE0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I am searching for information about (1) energy use/consumption by U.S. = > petroleum refineries and (2) techniques/technologies used by refineries = > to reduce their energy use (that is, improve their energy efficiency). > > Many thanks! > > Michael Keefe > PRC Environmental Management > keefem@psinet.com > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC0CFC.C196AAE0 > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > eJ8+IhEQAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG > ADQBAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADACAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAGcAAAAAAAAAtTvCwCx3EBqhvAgA > KypWwhUAAAAxv0oOWXQdEIXwimRdL0G8RIUAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHAydGVj > aABTTVRQAHAydGVjaEBncmVhdC1sYWtlcy5uZXQAAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgADMAEA > AAAXAAAAcDJ0ZWNoQGdyZWF0LWxha2VzLm5ldAAAAwAVDAEAAAADAP4PBgAAAB4AATABAAAACQAA > ACdwMnRlY2gnAAAAAAIBCzABAAAAHAAAAFNNVFA6UDJURUNIQEdSRUFULUxBS0VTLk5FVAADAAA5 > AAAAAAsAQDoBAAAAAgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAAkc4AQiABwAYAAAASVBNLk1pY3Jvc29mdCBNYWls > Lk5vdGUAMQgBBIABAB4AAABQZXRyb2xldW0gUmVmaW5lcnkgRW5lcmd5IFVzZQD4CgEFgAMADgAA > AM0HAQAcAAkAFgAEAAIAFgEBIIADAA4AAADNBwEAHAAJABMAHQACACwBAQmAAQAhAAAAQkNBNjNC > ODVFNDc4RDAxMTlGOTYwMEMwNEZENzdDQzMAQgcBA5AGAPwCAAASAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAAAA > AAsAKQAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAYD8RZjcNvAEeAHAAAQAAAB4AAABQZXRyb2xldW0gUmVmaW5l > cnkgRW5lcmd5IFVzZQAAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG8DTdmCYU7pr545BHQn5YAwE/XfMMAAB4AHgwB > AAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAASAAAAa2VlZmVtQHBzaW5ldC5jb20AAAADAAYQwROzvAMA > BxD2AAAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASUFNU0VBUkNISU5HRk9SSU5GT1JNQVRJT05BQk9VVCgxKUVORVJH > WVVTRS9DT05TVU1QVElPTkJZVVNQRVRST0xFVU1SRUZJTkVSSUVTQU5EKDIpVEVDSE5JUVVFUy9U > RUNITgAAAAACAQkQAQAAAH8BAAB7AQAALQIAAExaRnWzn5dd/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesCgwBQAvIJAgBj > aArAc2V0MjcGAAbDAoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0CgzN3AuQHEwKAfQqACM8J2TvxFg8yNTUCgAqB > DbELYOBuZzEwMxRQCwoUUYEL8SBJIGFtIBGw5wrAEXALgGcgAhAFwAuAcxuhAMB0aQIgGsAG4HVh > BUAoMSkgCfAEkGdoeSB1EbAvBaAAgHUWbQUwHGJiHZBVLlOYLiBwEcADYGxlHjB6IBYQZguABnEH > kQBwZL0c8DIdIBPQEXADAHEKUOxzLyEDFZFnIEIdsSCgEx6xH9l0bx/BZHVj4mUg8GhlaQXAHUgc > 8OckUBxAG9BzLBvQHkADYCZ2JD0NwWljCJBuY9h5KS4KhQqFTQBwHZDhJXFua3MhKB0ngBGASmUD > IEsJ4GZlCoVQwFJDIEVudiSAAiDPB4ACMAdAKOJhZxPgLJHFCoVrKyJtQHAAkB1QtHQuBaBtCoUV > MQAvwAADABAQAAAAAAMAERAAAAAAQAAHMKBHtwk3DbwBQAAIMKBHtwk3DbwBHgA9AAEAAAABAAAA > AAAAABzD > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC0CFC.C196AAE0-- > > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 13:49:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA28569 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970128184953.0069a0c4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:49:53 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ester Burke Subject: Re: Reverse Osmosis Units Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There is venor information available on the web through Enviro$en$e. The database is called VendInfo, and the URL is: http://es.inel.gov/cgi-bin.vendinfo.pl Ester Burke Illinois Waste Management and Research Center (217) 244-8989 eburke@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu At 10:06 AM 1/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >Hello P2 techs, > >I am looking for a vendor list for Reverse Osmosis units. If there >is any information out there on a RO unit please let me know. My E- >mail address is eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu. Thank you. > > >Patty Muthuswamy >UF Industrial Assessment Center >ISE Dept., 303 Weil Hall >P.O.Box 116595 >Gainesville, Florida 32611-6595 > > > > From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 14:08:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA00212 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:08:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:08:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701281908.OAA00212@cedar.cic.net> From: Craig Butler To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: p2 and car dealers Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Martha: An Ohio organization that I suggest you contact for info specific to energy efficient lighting in car dealerships is the Foundation for Environmental Education. They are working under a Rebuild America Grant to have car dealerships, restaurants, and movie theatres inplement energy efficienct lighting (such as suggested under EPA's Green Lights Program). In fact, they have just shown us a short public service announcement that has a car dealer talking about its experiences with moving to energy efficient technology for lighting and heating. It is well done. The contact: Glen Kizer, President Foundation for Environmental Education Box 163340 Columbus, OH 43216 (614) 823-6243. Also, we have a very good fact sheet and other information on energy efficienct lighting, lamp recycling, etc. If you want these let us know. Craig Butler Ohio EPA Office of P2 (614) 728-1261 From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 15:16:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA05430 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: "David Williams" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:16:21 EST Subject: Re: P2 for Auto Dealerships CC: kathy@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us, rons@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <8D47964128@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net We've developed a notebook on P2 for automobile maintenance and repair that we've used at several workshops (good feedback from attendees) Contact Ron Still at 919-715-6520 (e-mail: ron_still@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us) to obtain a copy. Additionally, the latest issue of our newsletter is on P2 for Fleets. Check out our website (see address in my signature line below) to see a copy. David Williams NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6527 Fax: (919) 715-6794 e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ From p2tech-owner Tue Jan 28 15:38:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA07109 for p2tech-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:38:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701282037.MAA18820@m1.sprynet.com> From: "Steve Lattanzio" To: Subject: Re: P2 for Auto Dealerships Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:39:16 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Try the Tri-Services' Pollution Prevention Technical Library http://clean.rti.org/larry/nav_in.html It has alot of good P2 for auto service. It even includes the economics. TOC Section 1: Electroplating and Metal Finishing Section 2: Hazardous Materials and Hazardous Waste Management Section 3: Ozone Depleting Substances Section 4: Painting Section 5: Depainting Section 6: Petroleum, Oils, and Lubricants Section 7: Solid Waste Management Section 8: Solvent Alternatives Section 9: Wastewater Section 10: Storm Water Section 11: Preproduction Technologies ---------- > From: Martha Arosemena > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: P2 for Auto Dealerships > Date: Tuesday, January 28, 1997 12:01 PM > > Does anyone have any P2 information for Auto > dealerships? Specifically regarding fuel filters, batteries, > waste paint, and fluorescent lights. > > Thanks in advance - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lattanzio Engineering Services Lattanzio@sprynet.com Stephen M. Lattanzio, PE Phone / Fax (518) 877-0714 30 Woodstead Rd Ballston Lake, NY 12019-1627 The award winning source for chemical engineering and environmental links, world, national, business and environmental news, ISO 14000 links and New York State air regulations. ============================================================================ === Http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/Lattanzio From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 07:10:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id HAA14837 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:10:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701291210.AA09143@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: P2 For Auto Dealerships: Reply Date: Wed Jan 29 06:45:54 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Martha writes: Does anyone have any P2 information for Auto dealerships? Specifically regarding fuel filters, batteries, waste paint, and fluorescent lights. Thanks in advance - -----------------------------------------------------------------> We have fact sheets available on auto repair shops and mercury lamps. Let me know if you want these documents. I can fax them to you, if you so desire Art Coleman Ohio EPA Division of Hazardous Waste Management P.O. Box 1049 Columbus, Ohio 43216-1049 (614) 644-2968 Fax (614) 728-1245 or (614) 644-2329 Homepage: http://web.epa.ohio.gov art_coleman@central.epa.ohio.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 09:21:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA19858 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:21:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:21:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701291421.JAA19858@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: C2P2 Subject: Re: P2 for Auto Dealerships Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 11:01 AM 1/28/97 -0600, Martha wrote: >Does anyone have any P2 information for Auto >dealerships? Specifically regarding fuel filters, batteries, >waste paint, and fluorescent lights. > >Thanks in advance - >---- >The Fraser River Action Plan, Environment Canada has a document called "Environmental Protection for the Automobile Recycling Industry in British Columbia". This report presents a series of three volumes designed to provide the auto recycling industry in BC with a guide for pollution control. The volumes include Best Management Practices; Technical Pollution Prevention Guide and Code of Practice for the Auto Recycling Industry. Call the Fraser Pollution Abatement at 604-666-5900 for more information or to get a copy of this document. Also visit our WWW site at http://www.cciw.ca/ppc/ where one of our "Hot Topics" features the Automotive Industry. Deb Foster Great Lakes Pollution Prevention Centre From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 11:36:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA00834 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:36:27 -0500 (EST) From: Santala@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:33:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970129111817_817665869@emout03.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: kgazzani@water.ca.gov Subject: DOE: P2 saves money Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net FYI: In the latest (Winter 1997, Vol. 6, No. 1) _EM Progress_ newsletter by the Dept of Energy (DOE), there's a pretty good article about DOE's various cleanup projects and the savings that were experienced through P2 practices (_Pollution Prevention Reduces Waste and Save Money_, Page 1). Also referenced, is a report detailing the techniques implemented by the various sites. The report is put out by the DOE Office of Environemtnal Restoration. Titled: _The Complex-Wide Study on the Successful Integration of Pollution Prevention into the Environmental Restoration Program, Volumes I and II_. Released October 1996. Contacts: 1. www.em.doe.gov 2. Robert Fleming, EM-43 (301) 903-7627, (robert.fleming@em.doe.gov) 3. Lisa Allmon-Burns (513) 782-4700 (lallmon@primax.net) Worth reading- Scott Santala, R.E.A. Mesa Associates Environmental Services PO Box 1163 Nipomo, CA 93444 Ph: (805) 929-2314 Fx: (805) 929-5565 Santala@aol.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 11:38:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA00997 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:38:20 -0500 (EST) From: DrRojo@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:37:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970129110826_1927204824@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: AIRLINE WASTE Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I travel often and every time I fly it urks me that when I ask for tea or coffee the flight attendant hands out two or three packets of creamer and sugar, even though I don't ask for them. When it is time for the attendants to clear the food/drinks from the trays, they discard the perfectly good food. Yesterday, I made a point of handing the unopened packets to the attendant and asking her to reissue to someone else. But it was easier for her to trash it. We also see these attitudes at fast food restaurants. How can we change this wasteful practice which appears to be nation-wide? Ron Joseph From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 11:59:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA02925 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:59:56 -0500 (EST) From: Santala@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:59:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970129114410_1927208786@emout06.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Hazardous Waste Minimization Plans on the Net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In a message dated 97-01-27 23:34:29 EST, you write: >Does anybody on the list know of any websites that have their institution's >HazWaste Minimization plan available for viewing, or perhaps a sample plan? >I understand that each company's HW Min plan will be unique in the areas of >wastestreams, goals, implementation plans, etc., but I'd really like to see >how other P2 professionals have documented their program. > >Thanks in advance, >Michael Carre Michael: Try looking on the home page for Brooks Air Force Base at www.brooks.af.mil/base.html. Brooks AFB is the center for all Air Force-wide environmental publications and policies. Each AFB adopts policy based on local requirements, but uses Brooks AFB as the 'template'. Also try Vandenberg AFB at www.mercury.vafb.af.mil. Both installations have what you want, but I don't know that they are on the internet. However, they are public information through the Freedom of Information Act and should be available upon reguest. Hope this helps. Scott Santala Mesa Associates Environmental Services PO Box 1163 Nipomo, CA 93444 Ph: (805) 929-2314 Fx: (805) 9295565 Santala@aol.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 12:40:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA06274 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:40:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:49:19 -0600 From: Thomas Vinson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: AIRLINE WASTE -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Good issue=21 I would like to expand on it if I may. If you think the packets at a restaurant are tough, try to get out of a = grocery store without a sack. The checker and bagger look at you blankly = when you wont take a bag for your newspaper, or a carton of milk; I have = also had managers chase me out of the store =22would you like a bag = sir=21=27. =20 Of course not all stores follow this pattern; one store used to offer a = nickel discount if you brought your own bag. We need to get the baggers = to say =22do you want a bag?=22 instead of =22paper or plastic?=22 How = much money and time is wasted bagging one or two items? Th*mas From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 12:44:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA06638 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:44:18 -0500 (EST) From: caoki@unep.fr Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 18:28:20 MET Message-Id: <9700298545.AA854592658@IE-gate.UNEP.FR> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Training materials on EMS&cleaner production Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi, I am looking for training and information materials on how to integrate cleaner production and EMS. Has anyone come across anything recently? We are trying to develop a training programme in China to demonstrate CP/EMS integration. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! Chizuru AOKI Env. Affairs Officer United Nations Environment Programme 39-43 quai Andre Citroen 75739 Paris CEDEX 15 France tel: (33 1) 44 37 14 26 fax: (33 1) 44 37 14 74 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 14:34:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA15330 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:34:15 -0500 (EST) From: DrRojo@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:33:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970129134012_1512085911@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Unecessary Waste of Foods Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I travel often and every time I fly it urks me that when I ask for tea or coffee the flight attendant hands out two or three packets of creamer and sugar, even though I don't ask for them. When it is time for the attendants to clear the food/drinks from the trays, they discard the perfectly good food. Yesterday, I made a point of handing the unopened packets to the attendant and asking her to reissue to someone else. But it was easier for her to trash it. We also see these attitudes at fast food restaurants. How can we change this wasteful practice which appears to be nation-wide? Ron Joseph From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 14:54:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA16809 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:54:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:54:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701291954.OAA29957@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: tgreiner@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: tgreiner@tiac.net (tgreiner) Subject: Re: STATE MANDATORY WASTE REDUCTION REQUIREMENTS Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > FROM: R. Illig > Re: State Mandatory Waste Reduction Requirements > illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us > > Tim Greiner responded that Maine has mandatory requirements to > conduct P2...unlike some states that require completion of a > form (in one case called a Source Reduction Strategy) but DO NOT > require execution of a P2 plan to actually reduce waste. > > > Tim, > > I would like to hear more about Maine's requirements...how they > set it up; incentives or penalties toward doing, or not doing P2; > as well as how business (industrial and commercial??) responded to > mandatory requirements and what type of results have been > attained. > > Any information on this topic, by Mr. Greiner or others, would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ric > > Rummaging through my files this afternoon I could not put my finger on information on Maine's Toxics Use Reduction and Pollution Prevention Law. It does however include requirements that firms met specific reduction goals. There is a planning requirement in the Act but no provision requiring implementation. For details, call Ann Pistell, Maine DEP, 207-287-7881. Tim From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 15:16:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA18747 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:16:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:14:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Margaret Reich (503)823-7623, City of Portland-BES 106/40" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Vmsmail-To: IO::SMTP%"p2tech@great-lakes.net" Message-Id: <970129121455.8b6@bes.portland.or.us> Subject: Re: P2 for Auto Dealerships Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Greenlink is a service offered for the automotive industry. They have a website at: ccarinfo@unicom.net or http://www.ccar-greenlink.org. They also have a toll free phone number of 800.476.5465. From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 15:34:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA20282 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:34:37 -0500 (EST) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 29 Jan 1997 15:31:31 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 29 Jan 1997 15:31:31 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0025832EFB3A3075-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0025832EFB3A3075 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0025832EFB3A3075*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 29 Jan 1997 15:31:31 -0500 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: P2Tech (Return requested), "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: RE: Electric meters MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Second attempt at posting >How about older technology units that are being discontinued, is there some >potential for selling these as working units? perhaps in other countries? I would think free, or very cheap, working electric meters would be useful for large buildings or campuses desiring to "sub-meter" their electric use. (Examples: building by building electric use at a college, floor by floor use in a large office building owned by one company, shop area by shop area in a factory.) I realize that the price of the electric meter is often the smallest reason NOT to do sub-metering. The price of a new meter is usually small compared to the price of the electrician's labor to install it, and very few buildings have enough space on the wall to accomodate a meter - where you want to install it. However, cheap meters whose only "defect" is that they are being replaced by a new style could easily tip the balance in many cases and allow an organization to do some sub-metering. Peter T. Moulton Office of Innovation and Assistance State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-2814 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: Finresorce@aol.com[SMTP:Finresorce@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 1997 3:31 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: electricity consumption meters Hi P2 Techers, Your experienced and educated advice is needed regarding the following case study. Background: What is referred to by "electricity consumption meter" is the glass-covered device you see hanging on the side of your house that monitors the kilowatts consumed, thus the basis of your monthly electric bill. Periodically these meters must be tested, refurbished, repaired, discarded, etc. Meter repair facilities (typically owned by the electric utility) may process a few hundred to thousands per week. Units that no longer function properly, or that are of older technology designated for replacement, are discarded. The glass cover is removed and typically landfilled since the stainless steel ring is not easy to remove (spot-welded in place). The remaining carcass is typically sold for mixed scrap metal value at 1.5 cents per pound (dependent on location). Questions: Generally, how might meter repair shops (or brokers acting on their behalf) earn additional revenue and conserve addtional resources through management of these scrap meters? Is anyone aware of 'bolt recycling facilities,' i.e., facilities that collect, sort, re-sell used bolts? (There may be 20-30 small bolts in each meter.) Is there any value in the small transformers that are present? How about older technology units that are being discontinued, is there some potential for selling these as working units? perhaps in other countries? Any ideas regarding the glass covers? (perhaps crush the glass, thus making the ring separable and recyclable, along with the glass?) Thanks in advance; your input is greatly appreciated, Charlie Davis Finite Resources, Inc. 803 River Road Austin, Texas 78734 512-263-5053, fax 2269 From p2tech-owner Wed Jan 29 16:22:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA24186 for p2tech-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:22:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970129161909.b68f0980@pegasus.ckyinc.com> X-Sender: josie@pegasus.ckyinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "L. Josie Phillips" Subject: Re: AIRLINE WASTE -Reply Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:23:53 -0500 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net How about those baggers who insist on putting 2 items in 2 bags? Personally, I carry my own "canvas" bags (made from recycled plastic pop bottles). I do get stares from time to time. I noticed that the characters on "Home Improvement" do the same thing -- great advertising for lifestyle changes, IF the viewers pick up on it, that is. Let's not try to put bag producers out of business, just get them to put out a different product with a different buyer. At 11:49 AM 1/29/97 -0600, you wrote: >Good issue! I would like to expand on it if I may. > >If you think the packets at a restaurant are tough, try to get out of a grocery store without a sack. The checker and bagger look at you blankly when you wont take a bag for your newspaper, or a carton of milk; I have also had managers chase me out of the store "would you like a bag sir!'. > >Of course not all stores follow this pattern; one store used to offer a nickel discount if you brought your own bag. We need to get the baggers to say "do you want a bag?" instead of "paper or plastic?" How much money and time is wasted bagging one or two items? > >Th*mas > ************************************************************ L. Josie Phillips CKY, Inc. 140 East Division Street, Suite C-3 Oak Ridge, TN 37830 P) 423-483-4376 ext. 205 F) 423-482-3585 E) josie@ckyinc.com "Every speaker has a mouth; An arrangement rather neat. Sometimes it's filled with wisdom. Sometimes it's filled with feet." ^ ^ - Robert Orben, American humorist and speechwriter ' ' ~~~ **************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 06:12:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id GAA26097 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 06:12:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 11:15:37 +0100 From: "Noel Duffy" Subject: Re: Training materials on EMS&cleaner production To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: VersaTerm Link v1.1.3 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The simplest and most user friendly material we have come across is the PREMISE manual, prepared under a project for the EU DGXII. This is a manual for preventive environmental management in small enterprises. COWI in Denmark were the lead consultants on it. They are looking for a publisher I think, but if you contact Bent Hummelmose at COWI he may be able to help you. tel +45 45 97 22 11 fax +45 45 97 22 12 There are losts of other publications that are relevant, and many people working on integrating CP and EMS into manuals and multimedia (ourselves included). Contact me directly if you want further pointers. Noel Duffy Clean Technology Centre, Ireland > Hi, > > I am looking for training and information materials on how to > integrate cleaner production and EMS. Has anyone come across anything > recently? We are trying to develop a training programme in China to > demonstrate CP/EMS integration. > > Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! > > > Chizuru AOKI > Env. Affairs Officer > United Nations Environment Programme > 39-43 quai Andre Citroen > 75739 Paris CEDEX 15 > France > tel: (33 1) 44 37 14 26 > fax: (33 1) 44 37 14 74 > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 07:41:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id HAA28096 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 07:41:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701301241.AA29769@central.epa.ohio.gov> From: (Art Coleman ) To: Subject: Airline Wastes: Reply Date: Thu Jan 30 07:32:01 1997 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Ron's statement: I travel often and every time I fly it urks me that when I ask for tea or coffee the flight attendant hands out two or three packets of creamer and sugar, even though I don't ask for them. When it is time for the attendants to clear the food/drinks from the trays, they discard the perfectly good food. Yesterday, I made a point of handing the unopened packets to the attendant and asking her to reissue to someone else. But it was easier for her to trash it. We also see these attitudes at fast food restaurants. How can we change this wasteful practice which appears to be nation-wide? Ron Joseph ---------------------------------------------------> Ron, I think you brought up some good points. Collectively, I bet there are enough packets of sugar, condiments, and related food items discarded from restaurants, cafeterias, bars, etc. to start a lucrative business. And what about all the left-over food and beverages that are discarded; are there P2 opportunities here? I think this problem works both ways, that is, the proprietor may offer these items to the customers whether or not the customers request them, and a customers may request them but use only a portion. Obviously, an effective P2 program or commitment to P2 must trickle down to the most overlooked items or situations, regardless of scale, that may be taken for granted restaurant viewed as unimportant. If owners inform (in menus) their customers up front that they have a special fee or food tax on sugar, condiments, and other items, the customer may be more selective or judicious [They also may decide to go to another restaurant]. I don't see why people in the food service field/business are reluctant to "reuse" these items. Of course, I can understand situations where the items have been partially used or contaminated with grease or some food item, but if the package or item has not been adulterated, what's the big deal? Obviously, some of these items that one finds on the table in a restaurant such as bottles of catsup, syrup, and cream, have been used over and over again by customers, and there is no way of knowing whether the children dropped a bottle on the floor or played with the cream dispenser. I definitely think this is an area for developing educational material not only on usage, but on P2 alternatives for these discarded materials. Art Coleman Ohio EPA, Division of Hazardous Waste Management From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 09:48:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA03809 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:48:39 -0500 (EST) From: cbell@saic1.mtg.saic.com Message-Id: <9701301444.AA29313@mtg.saic.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:51:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: p2 in the hospitality industry X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The City of New York has a recent publication on waste prevention in hotels available. Contact David Kleckner at the Bureau of Waste Prevention, Reuse and Recycling, (212) 837-8175. Also INFORM published a waste prevention guide for the Lodging Industry last year. Contact John Winter (212) 361-2400. The NYC Department of Sanitation is currently conducting assessments and implementing P2 initiatives in three restaurants and three retail food outlets under the NYC WasteLe$$ project. Results should be available in the next year. I'm happy to share information about progress to date by phone or email. Carole O. Bell Science Applications International Corporation 221 Third Street Newport, RI 02840 (401) 848-4756 cbell@mtg.saic.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 10:31:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA06819 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:31:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:31:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701301531.KAA06819@cedar.cic.net> From: JOANNE OXLEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I have been preparing a report highlighting the waste prevention activities of 8 electric utilities for EPA's WasteWi$e Program. The report is still in the draft stages and probably will not be available until sometime this Summer. We look at a variety of waste streams from coal ash and wood poles to lamps and gloves. If you would be interested in receiving a copy when the report is complete, let me know. From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 10:33:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA06930 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:33:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:33:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701301533.KAA06930@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: el Subject: Re: AIRLINE WASTE Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 11:37 AM 1/29/97 -0500, you wrote: >... Yesterday, I made a >point of >handing the unopened packets to the attendant and asking her to reissue to >someone else. But it was easier for her to trash it. > >We also see these attitudes at fast food restaurants. How can we change this >wasteful >practice which appears to be nation-wide? > Ron, The place to start would be the local Health Departments. There are very strict regulations that tell food service employees what they are and are not allowed to do. Example, restaurants are "allowed" to offer addition sugar in packets, however, they are not allowed to offer additional sugar in a seperate glass (like from a 50 pound bag of sugar). Those packets you graciously tried to salvage were probably tossed to prevent the transmission of illness (even though all you did was touch them and irregardless of whether you were sick at the time). So, it's probably not that the airline attendant didn't want to bother, but more likely that she was just following company policies that government has passed down to her. el From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 10:34:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA07033 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:34:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:34:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701301534.KAA07033@cedar.cic.net> From: uedld@msu.oscs.montana.edu To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: P2 for Auto Dealerships Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Howdy from Montana! Our program has some fact sheets on automotive service and repair shop pollution prevention that might be helpful. I can also refer you to several dealers in Montana that have implemented pollution prevention ideas, such as energy-efficient lighting, solvent substitution, etc. Let me know if you would like this information by e-mailing me at uedld@trex.oscs.montana.edu or call me at (406) 994-3451. Have a nice day! Lara Dando Montana Pollution Prevention Program Montana State University Extension Service Taylor Hall Bozeman, MT 59717 http://www.montana.edu/wwwated From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 11:22:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id LAA11195 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:22:44 -0500 (EST) From: cbell@saic1.mtg.saic.com Message-Id: <9701301618.AA00141@mtg.saic.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:25:06 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: hospitality industry X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The City of New York has a recent publication on waste prevention in hotels available. Contact David Kleckner at the Bureau of Waste Prevention, Reuse and Recycling, (212) 837-8175. Also, INFORM published a waste prevention guide for the lodging industry. Contact John Winter (212) 361-2400. The NYC Department of Sanitation is conducting assessments and implementing p2 initiatives in 3 restaurants and 3 retail food outlets under the NYC WasteLe$$ Project. Results should be available in the next year. I'm happy to share information about progress to date by phone or e-mail. Carole O. Bell Science Applications International Corporation 221 Third Street Newport, RI 02840 (401) 848-4756 cbell@mtg.saic.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 16:09:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA03770 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:09:14 -0500 (EST) From: josh_kanner@abtassoc.com Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 16:11:44 est Message-Id: <9700308546.AA854669569@abtgwy.abtassoc.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Pollution Prevention Research Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm currently conducting research for the EPA on the use of TRI Section 8 data (data on source reduction and recycling activities related to the chemical for which releases are being reported to TRI). Put simply, I want to know who uses these data and why they use them. Any suggestions/citations where these data have been used would be appreciated. Any users/uses are acceptable. For example, I'd be interested in knowing that a particular university, community group, or consultant had used the data to calculate the percentage of TRI-filing firms in a particular industry sector that were engaged in p2 activities. Thanks in advance. -Josh ************************ Josh Kanner Analyst Abt Associates Inc. 55 Wheeler Street Cambridge, MA 02138 (v) 617-349-2485 (f) 617-349-2660 josh_kanner@abtassoc.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 17:51:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA10976 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:51:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9701302324.AA4902@SMTPGW.edf.org> To: josh_kanner Cc: P2Tech From: Lois Epstein Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:50:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Pollution Prevention Research Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net One portion of a study i authored on oil refinery performance which utilized TRI and New Jersey right-to-know data, "Ranking Refineries: What Do We Know About Oil Refinery Pollution From Right-to-Know Data?" discusses the value --- and limitations --- of the Section 8 data. Please let me know if you would like a copy (we charge a small fee for the publication). Lois N. Epstein, P.E. Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) lne@edf.org From: josh_kanner @ abtassoc.com @ net on 01/30/97 04:11 PM EST To: p2tech @ great-lakes.net @ net cc: Subject: Pollution Prevention Research I'm currently conducting research for the EPA on the use of TRI Section 8 data (data on source reduction and recycling activities related to the chemical for which releases are being reported to TRI). Put simply, I want to know who uses these data and why they use them. Any suggestions/citations where these data have been used would be appreciated. Any users/uses are acceptable. For example, I'd be interested in knowing that a particular university, community group, or consultant had used the data to calculate the percentage of TRI-filing firms in a particular industry sector that were engaged in p2 activities. Thanks in advance. -Josh ************************ Josh Kanner Analyst Abt Associates Inc. 55 Wheeler Street Cambridge, MA 02138 (v) 617-349-2485 (f) 617-349-2660 josh_kanner@abtassoc.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 18:28:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA12976 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:28:32 -0500 (EST) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199701302328.PAA23323@netcom2.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Pollution Prevention Research To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:28:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9700308546.AA854669569@abtgwy.abtassoc.com> from "josh_kanner@abtassoc.com" at Jan 30, 97 04:11:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I cited Section 8 data in some workshop materials on pollution prevention in petroleum refining for the Illinois EPA (Allen and Rosselot, "Pollution Prevention in Petroleum Refining," Illinois EPA Office of Pollution Prevention, 1995). Also, in 1994 I reported some of the data in a white paper ("Prevention of Hazardous Air Pollutant Emissions at Petroleum Refineries") intended as part of background material for an industry/regulatory roundtable on p2 in petroleum refining. I find Section 8 data to be particularly frustrating. Facilities have a tendency to report the same strategy for all the chemicals they report. They'll report LDAR, for example, for a chemical that isn't emitted to air. ==================================================================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. ==================================================================== > > I'm currently conducting research for the EPA on the use of TRI > Section 8 data (data on source reduction and recycling activities > related to the chemical for which releases are being reported to TRI). > Put simply, I want to know who uses these data and why they use them. > Any suggestions/citations where these data have been used would be > appreciated. Any users/uses are acceptable. For example, I'd be > interested in knowing that a particular university, community group, > or consultant had used the data to calculate the percentage of > TRI-filing firms in a particular industry sector that were engaged in > p2 activities. Thanks in advance. -Josh > > ************************ > Josh Kanner > Analyst > Abt Associates Inc. > 55 Wheeler Street > Cambridge, MA 02138 > (v) 617-349-2485 > (f) 617-349-2660 > josh_kanner@abtassoc.com > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 21:05:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id VAA19709 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:05:41 -0500 (EST) From: Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:02:56 -0800 Message-ID: <2f153620@ccmail.rl.gov> Subject: Industry-Specific Expectations To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm trying to find out by industry if there is any expected savings (waste and cost) for implementing pollution prevention. In other words, what have some of you found as savings for these industries? Have you identified big savings for a particular industry and for a particular waste type? I want to compare my results to that of others' work. I'm specifically looking for annual cost savings, annual waste reduction, implementation cost, and payback. Some of the industries I am looking at are: construction, supermarket, autobody, printing and graphics, landscaping, winery, automotive repair, commercial laundry, hotel, apartments, and medical clinic. This is my masters thesis work and I'm willing to share all my information with those who can help me!!! Thanks in Advance! Mary Betsch RUST Federal Services of Hanford, Inc. P.O. Box 700, H6-06 Richland, WA 99352 (phone) 509-372-1627 (fax) 509-373-0743 e-mail Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Jan 30 21:21:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id VAA20257 for p2tech-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:21:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:38:49 +0100 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: ess@his.com (Brook) Subject: Pollutants in homes Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Are there labs in the East Coast which test for pollutants in peoples homes( lead, chemicals,...)? Any list of labs would be appreciated. Thanks, -brook From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 07:45:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id HAA08052 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:45:11 -0500 (EST) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:44:57 EST Subject: Re: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants -Reply X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <25E8DB6451@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:31:38 -0500 (EST) From: JOANNE OXLEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants -Reply Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Joanne, Please send me a copy when it's ready. Rudy I have been preparing a report highlighting the waste prevention activities of 8 electric utilities for EPA's WasteWi$e Program. The report is still in the draft stages and probably will not be available until sometime this Summer. We look at a variety of waste streams from coal ash and wood poles to lamps and gloves. If you would be interested in receiving a copy when the report is complete, let me know. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 09:11:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA11425 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:11:11 -0500 (EST) From: cstead@sover.net Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:11:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701311411.JAA08818@maple.sover.net> Subject: RE: P2 for Auto Dealerships To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You wrote: Howdy from Montana! Our program has some fact sheets on automotive service and repair shop pollution prevention that might be helpful. Please send me a copy. I work for Retired Engineers and Professionals for the State of Vermont in P2. We are focusing on auto repair hazardous waste reduction. Thanks for your help. Craig Stead P.O. Box 920 Putney, Vermont 05346 802-387-4748 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 09:18:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA11924 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:18:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:18:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701311418.JAA11924@cedar.cic.net> From: Mark Dorfman To: P2Tech Subject: P2 at sugar mills Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am going to Nepal on 2/6 to visit a sugar mill. ANY and ALL information on P2 at sugar mills ANYWHERE in the world would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Mark Dorfman INFORM Tel: 212-361-2400 x229 Fax: 212-361-2412 Email: inform@igc.apc.org From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 10:07:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA15999 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:07:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701311506.JAA94282@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: pannis@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:03:29 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Phillip J. Annis" Subject: Removing oil from pickling solution Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Everyone Looking for suggestions with this problem. Pickling tank 5,600 gallons 18% Nitric acid 38% Hydrofluoric acid Tank is contaminanted with small amounts of oil. Which technology would you suggest to remove the oil from this tank? Please, Yes, I know the first answer is "Don't introduce the oil to the acid tank in the first place". We're working on that. Any suggestions are really appreciated Jack From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 12:03:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA24784 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:03:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:11:54 -0600 From: Thomas Vinson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Coal Fired Elecric Generation Plants -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net We would also like to get a copy of both reports Thomas Vinson, Engineering Specialist Industrial Pollution Prevention, Office of Pollution Prevention & Recycling Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission PO Box 13087, Austin, TX 78711-3087 512-239-3182 From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 12:30:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA26793 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:30:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701311729.LAA46332@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: pannis@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:26:15 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Phillip J. Annis" Subject: Removing oil from pickling solution Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Everyone Looking for suggestions with this problem. Pickling tank 5,600 gallons 18% Nitric acid 38% Hydrofluoric acid Tank is contaminanted with small amounts of oil. Which technology would you suggest to remove the oil from this tank? Please, Yes, I know the first answer is "Don't introduce the oil to the acid tank in the first place". We're working on that. Any suggestions are really appreciated Jack From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 12:43:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA27780 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:43:28 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta FREIA.MUAS; Relayed; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:42:38 -0800 Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:42:38 -0800 From: HENRY BOYTER Subject: Re: Pollutants in homes In-reply-to: To: p2tech Message-id: <7738420931011997/A28051/FREIA/11B1FA6A2300*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11B1FA6A2300 X400-MTS-identifier: [;7738420931011997/A28051/FREIA] Hop-count: 0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There are hundreds of such companies. I do it myself. If you can provide a specific area and specific testing I could give you some names. Henry Boyter, Jr., PhD Director of EH&S EARTH TECH - Charlottesville HBoyter@earthtech.com The opinions expressed are those of Dr. Boyter and are not necessarily those of EARTH TECH. "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied,-- "If you seek for Eldorado!" **************************************************** Are there labs in the East Coast which test for pollutants in peoples homes( lead, chemicals,...)? Any list of labs would be appreciated. Thanks, -brook From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 13:48:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA02285 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:48:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970201065025.00c3a62c@popmail.ucsd.edu> X-Sender: masiegel@popmail.ucsd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:50:25 -0800 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Marc H. Siegel" Subject: Tar melting Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This question is being posted for Nadine. Please send your answers directly to her at: nadine@ladpc.gov.il By the way, in many countries people burn car tires as the fuel to melt tar in open barrels. Thank you. "We want to know if anyone has a better way to heat tar at building sites other than to use open barrels and pollute the air (as is done in this country)? Thank you for your help to this query." ******************************************************************* Nadine Spitz Air Quality Officer Environmental Dept., Municipality of Jerusalem Safra Square 8, Jerusalem 91000 Tel: 972-2-6296462 Fax: 972-2-6296475 email: nadine@ladpc.gov.il From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 13:50:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA02403 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:50:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970131184716.006bd0cc@iti.org> X-Sender: kjs@iti.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:47:16 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ken Saulter Subject: Re: Industry-Specific Expectations Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Contact Am Auto Manufacturing Assn about their P2 Auto Project and reports. Call 313-872-4311. One generalization to test: 90% of pollutants in the auto mfging industry occurs in assembly plants. 90% of assembly plant pollutants are paint-related. At 06:02 PM 1/30/97 -0800, you wrote: > I'm trying to find out by industry if there is any expected savings > (waste and cost) for implementing pollution prevention. In other > words, what have some of you found as savings for these industries? > Have you identified big savings for a particular industry and for a > particular waste type? > > I want to compare my results to that of others' work. I'm > specifically looking for annual cost savings, annual waste reduction, > implementation cost, and payback. > > Some of the industries I am looking at are: construction, > supermarket, autobody, printing and graphics, landscaping, winery, > automotive repair, commercial laundry, hotel, apartments, and medical > clinic. > > This is my masters thesis work and I'm willing to share all my > information with those who can help me!!! > > Thanks in Advance! > > Mary Betsch > RUST Federal Services of Hanford, Inc. > P.O. Box 700, H6-06 > Richland, WA 99352 > (phone) 509-372-1627 > (fax) 509-373-0743 > e-mail Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov > > From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 14:22:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA04619 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:22:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:23:10 -0700 From: Paul Saunders To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Solvent Separation Methods Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2 Tech Members: Does anyone know of a method (vacuum distillation?) in which a raw waste containing Propanadiol and CdTe could be separated? Also, any method in which a gas stream containing Isobutanol and water vapor could be condensed and distilled? Thanks in advance for any ideas. Paul Saunders psaunder@co.jefferson.co.us From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 17:24:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA17523 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:24:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:24:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701312224.RAA17523@cedar.cic.net> From: Darrell Soyars To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: information search Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello, I am looking for any pollution prevention information for a asphalt roofing material manufacturer. The process uses heated mix tanks which are vented to an existing wet scrubber and cyclone. The afterburner option is being discussed at this time, would like to avoid this expense with process changes. Thanks, Darrell Darrell Soyars Air Quality Engineer Business Environmental Program Nevada Small Business Development Center/032 University of Nevada at Reno Reno, NV 89557-0100 Phone:(702)784-1717 Fax:(702)784-1395 dsoyars@unr.edu From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 17:31:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA17868 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:31:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:31:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199701312231.RAA17868@cedar.cic.net> From: CHILTON MCLAUGHLIN To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Composting and disposal of dead chickens -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Gary, the USDA has paid for a lot of research into composting chickens and chicken wastes. I understand they have a publication devoted to the subject (someone told me Tyson paid for it). The process is well defined and successful and turns out terrific fertilizer. Chet From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 18:54:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id SAA21704 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:54:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32F24E08.FF7@erols.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:55:03 +0000 From: George Cushnie Organization: CAI Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Reverse Osmosis Units References: <199701281506.KAA10612@cedar.cic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Visit the National Metal Finishing Resource Center at: http://www.nmfrc.org. Go to the Vendor Directory. Click on Pollution Prevention Equipment, then, Chemical Recovery/Water Recycle, and then click on Reverse Osmosis. You will find about 20 to 30 companies, all with points of contacts and some with hypertext links to websites. Also, join the NMFRC (its free) and use the Technical Database. I searched for reverse osmosis and found 63 articles, most available in full text. Thanks for not asking about alligators or dead chickens geoc From p2tech-owner Fri Jan 31 19:10:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA22529 for p2tech-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:10:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32F251BA.2119@erols.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:10:51 +0000 From: George Cushnie Organization: CAI Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: AIRLINE WASTE References: <970129110826_1927204824@emout16.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Ron: Drink black coffee and fret about more meaningful things. geoc