From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 1 05:59:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id FAA16287 for p2tech-out; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33B943C2.5330@cipn.es> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 10:54:01 -0700 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Inicitiatives Organization: Centre d'Iniciatives per a la Produccio Neta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech Subject: Ozone treatment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear sirs, I would appreciate if you could give me any information about Treatment of textile, leather and dye effluents by means of ozone. In concret I would appreciate any information about color and COD reduction. Thanks in advance for your help, best regards Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona Spain e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es fax: +34 3 414 45 82 From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 1 08:59:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA25207 for p2tech-out; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Wayne Pferdehirt" Organization: Engineering Professional Developmen To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:05:03 CST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Source of peptizer X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I received this info from a friend who works @ Goodyear. -Wayne > Bondogen is a mixture of an oil soluble sulfonic acid of high molecular weight with a high boiling alcohol and a paraffin oil. It is a dark mahogany liquid with a density of 0.89-0.92. It is used as a peptizing agent and strong plasticizer for NR, SBR, CR, IIR rubbers. It is also used as a compounding ingredient to delay curing (a scorth retarder). It is available from the R.T. Vanderbilt Company, Inc. at 30 Winfield Street in Norwalk, Connecticut 06855. ********************************************************** Wayne P. Pferdehirt, P.E., AICP U. of Wis., Solid & Hazardous Waste Education Center 610 Langdon Street, Room 529, Madison, WI 53703-1195 Phone: 608/265-2361 Fax: 608/262-6250 pferdehi@epd.engr.wisc.edu ********************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 1 09:59:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA22682 for p2tech-out; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707011214.IAA10525@cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:14:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: HVLP painting equipment and robots Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 04:47 PM 6/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >Bob: > >I was aware of the "speckled" finish resulting from curing mixed powder >coatings and it apparently isn't widely used except possibly for >surfaces that require protection from oxidation but are not readily >visible such as the inside of metal housings. To my knowledge, TCLP was >not routinely done since the operators claimed awareness from the MSDS >and past experience regarding the powder being "OK" to toss. Obviously, >this argument is very easily applied to any and all situations where >there is no desire to spend the money to run TCLP. What can I say? > >Paul Saunders >pjsco@worldnet.att.net > Your attitude about the TCLP is inappropriate. First, there is no regulatory requirement that one run the TCLP if one has knowledge of the concentrations of the relevant constituents. The TCLP is merely a tool for acquiring knowledge if it is missing, and is not superior to other sources of the same information. Process knowledge is the alternative, and it is ALWAYS used. It is used because it is necessary to know that the sample is representative, that the process has not changed, that the TCLP is appropriate, etc., etc. Thus Process Knowledge is superior to the TCLP and is always used, while the TCLP is used to supplement Process Knowledge. Spending money on unnecessary testing is wasteful and not appropriate to pollution prevention, where all resources need to be used with respect, including financial resources. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 1 10:59:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA27054 for p2tech-out; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970701133905.009cafb0@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 08:39:05 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: MIT's Journal of Industrial Ecology Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net "Approve: p2net" Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:30:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nancy A. Osborn" X-Sender: nano@recycle.snre.umich.edu Reply-To: "Nancy A. Osborn" To: nppc.educators@umich.edu Subject: MIT's Journal of Industrial Ecology To members of the NPPC Educators e-mail list: Eric Maki asked us to share the following press release about MIT's new _Journal of Industrial Ecology._ (PLEASE NOTE: This is not an NPPC publication. Send questions or comments to emaki@MIT.EDU.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- subject: Journal of Industrial Ecology Premieres! The MIT Press is proud to announce the publication of the first issue of the Journal of Industrial Ecology. The journal, which is edited at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies and published by the MIT Press for Yale University, is an international, multi-disciplinary quarterly designed to foster understanding and practice in this emerging field. Industrial ecology systematically examines local, regional and global materials and energy uses and flows in products, processes, industrial sectors, and entire economies. It focuses on the potential role that corporations can play in protecting the environment by incorporating environmental considerations in product and process design. JIE's premiere issue, published this month, demonstrates the breadth of this developing discipline, with articles on topics such as: - Lead and Electric Vehicles - Limits to Life-Cycle Impact Assessment - Chlorine Flows and the Environment - The Kalundborg Industrial Ecosystem - Cleaner Production and Industrial Ecology - Organic Cotton at Patagonia - Design for Environment at Motorola Also included are reviews of the latest publications in industrial ecology. For a look at the complete contents of the first issue, see the journal's web page at http://mitpress.mit.edu/JIE This web page also contains information on subscribing, instructions for authors, and will soon feature article abstracts, a sample article, and online letters to the editor. Address all orders and inquiries to: | E-mail addresses: Circulation Department | journals-info@mit.edu MIT Press Journals | journals-orders@mit.edu Five Cambridge Center | journals-rights@mit.edu Cambridge, MA 02142-1493 USA | TEL: (617) 253-2889 (M-F, 9-5) | Web site: FAX: (617) 577-1545 | http://mitpress.mit.edu/JIE From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 1 13:17:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA08290 for p2tech-out; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D0158AFEB@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Baskir, Jesse N." To: "'P2Tech'" Subject: Ozone Treatment Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:44:46 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >From Aarti Sharma, in response to question on treatment of textile effluents with ozone: I am posting some information I have on hand on color and COD treatment from the second and third issues of the TAPP-IN newsletter. Please post any other information you would like to share to texnet@clean.rti.org or directly to me (if you are on the consultant list): >From the second issue of the TAPP-IN newsletter: Auburn University has a ten year old program that has involved research on the use of oxidation technologies to decolorize dye waste water and reuse the bath. The original work, funded by Russell Corporation and the National Textile Center (NTC), started with comparing the use of chlorine and ozone gases. Ozone was bubbled through dye waste in a number of configurations, including a packed column, which increased efficiency substantially compared to a standard bubble tower. The research has yielded a great deal of data on the effect of dye type and the presence of auxiliaries on the kinetics of the process. A pilot trial, funded by the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) and the Southern Company, was started about two years ago. In the pilot work, ten pound lots of knitted cotton fabric were dyed with a number of current industrial reactive dye formulations. The mixed waste was decolorized and the water was successfully reused for subsequent dyeings. This process was recently tested successfully on full scale plant equipment at Russell Corporation. The project involved piping from two dye machines to several storage tanks and an industrial scale ozonator. Auburn Researchers also looked at decolorizing spent dyebaths with hydrogen peroxide, catalyzed by trace metals or by high and low intensity ultraviolet irradiation. This was successful and comparable in effectiveness and cost to the ozone methods. Products of decomposition from oxidative destruction of the dye were also examined for chemical structure and toxicity. Although the products were slightly more toxic than the original dyes, the total toxicity was considered low. The trial showed that commercial dyebaths could be reused with favorable economics. However, only reactive dyes were used and economics for other dye types have not been evaluated. For further information on this work, contact William K. Walsh (Department Head, Textile Engineering, Auburn University, 334-844-5452, wwalsh@eng.auburn.edu) or Glynn E. (Ed) Fouche (Manager, EPRI Industrial Processes, College of Textiles, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC 27695-8301). >From third issue: The Color Cracker Oxidation Reactor, a technology developed by Tex-A-Tec (Wattwil, Switzerland) to treat heavily polluted part water flows, is being tested on a full-scale textile production facility in Switzerland. This technology is being tested as a method to handle wastewater with high concentrations of sewage elements (COD 5,000 to 20,000 mg O2/L), which cannot be disposed of using conventional methods. Waste disposal features of the system include: * oxidation of organic products to CO2 and water (e.g., dispersing and emulsifying agents, natural and synthetic dyestuffs, oils and greases, natural and synthetic polymers); * COD and BOD reduction up to 90 percent, with the remaining organic parts biocompatible; * an autotherm reaction that requires very low power consumption; and * sludge-free operation. Oxidation reactors have been used with success in other industries, but have never been tested for application to textile wastewater. After analyses of results from the field tests in Switzerland, which are expected to be completed early this year, the technology will be considered for commercialization in the U.S. For more information, call Richard Gibson (Sclavos USA, Charlotte, N.C.) at 704-522-6330, or Felix Frey (V.P. Sales, Tex-A-Tec) at 41-71-845-2128. (Source: America's Textiles International, November 1996; Conversation with Richard Gibson, January, 1997). >From the third issue: The Center for Applied Energy Research at the University of Kentucky in Lexington has developed a new process for simultaneous removal of colors and heavy-metal pollutants from textile dyeing wastewater. Bench-scale tests with dyeing wastewater from a textile dyeing plant in Kentucky show that the process can efficiently remove 90-99% of colors/dyes from the wastewater. Color content was reduced from untreated effluent contents of 1200-8000 color units (c.u.; American Dye Manufacturers Institute, ADMI) to below 100 c.u. (ADMI) at a cost of less than 50 cents per 1000 gallons. Conventional chlorination methods cost 40-90 cents to reduce color to around 300 c.u. The results also show a linear relationship between reduction of color and removal of toxic metals. Other benefits of the process include shorter retention times (entire treatments can be completed in 5-10 minutes), effective operation even at high temperatures (enabling recycling of hot treated water, reducing energy consumption), no sludge disposal problems, and high quality water, which can be reused in the dyeing application. The developers are looking for textile companies to participate in further developing and field testing the technology. They propose doing a basic study over a 12 month period at an expenditure of $200,000 (e.g., 10 companies could invest $20,000 each) and performing further field tests at about $50,000 per company. This proposal will be presented on March 4, 1997 in Lexington at the Center for Applied Energy Center. If you are interested in participating in this project or would like more information on the technology, call Dr. B.K Parekh at 606-257-0239 or Email at parekh@alpha.caer.uky.edu. > > From: Centre for Cleaner Production > > Inicitiatives[SMTP:prodneta@cipn.es] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 1:54 PM > > To: p2tech > > Subject: Ozone treatment > > > > Dear sirs, > > > > I would appreciate if you could give me any information about > > Treatment > > of textile, leather and dye effluents by means of ozone. I would > > appreciate any other information about color and COD reduction. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help, > > > > best regards > > > > Esther Monfa > > Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives > > Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 > > 08006 Barcelona > > Spain > > > > e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es > > fax: +34 3 414 45 82 > > > > Jesse Baskir Manager, Pollution Prevention Program Research Triangle Institute P.O. Box 12194 RTP, NC 27709-2194 USA Phone: (919)541-5882 FAX: (919)541-7155 JBASKIR@RTI.ORG From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 07:59:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA03186 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D0158AFEC@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Baskir, Jesse N." To: "'P2Tech'" Subject: FW: FW: Ozone treatment Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:03:49 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > ---------- > From: Warren Perkins[SMTP:wperkins@hestia.fcs.uga.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 10:08 AM > To: 'texnet@clean.rti.org'; Sharma, Aarti > Subject: Re: FW: Ozone treatment > > > > From: Centre for Cleaner Production > > Inicitiatives[SMTP:prodneta@cipn.es] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 1:54 PM > > To: p2tech > > Subject: Ozone treatment > > > > Dear sirs, > > > > I would appreciate if you could give me any information about > > Treatment > > of textile, leather and dye effluents by means of ozone. I would > > appreciate any other information about color and COD reduction. > > > > Thanks in advance for your help, > > > > best regards > > > > Esther Monfa > > Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives > > Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 > > 08006 Barcelona > > Spain > > > > e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es > > fax: +34 3 414 45 82 > > > > > Ozone is excellent for color removal but not very effective for > lowering COD. Even though the COD of textile wastewater is not > lowered much by treatment with ozone, the BOD/COD ratio is often > raised and the biological treatability is improved after ozonation. > We have recently completed a study of use of ozone to treat carpet > dyeing wastewater. > > Warren Perkins > University of Georgia > From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 09:59:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA09874 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:59:05 -0400 (EDT) From: robert_michalowicz@bovar.com X-Authentication-Warning: scrooge.cadvision.com: footuucp set sender to robert_michalowicz@bovar.com using -f Date: Wed, 02 Jul 97 08:18:51 Message-Id: <9706028678.AA867856731@bovar.bovar.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re[2]: Ammonia Refrigeration Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net David: At 60,000 lbs of ammonia, the beer brewer is already required to meet the OSHA standard of Process Safety Management and therefore must meet the requirements of Program 3 of the RMP. If the the OSHA standard has already been met by the brewer, the additional requirements to meet Program 3 of the RMP will be: - registration - off-site consequence analysis - five-year accident history - documenation of the items completed for OSHA Process Safety Management Standard. For something as simple as ammonia being the only on-site toxic, off the top of my head, my estimate to prepare a Risk Management Plan would be no more than $15,000. This would be considerably less expensive than switching refrigerants. However, the requirements of the OSHA Process Safety Management standard are much more extensive. If the brewery wishes to avoid the process safety management requirements of OSHA, it might be well worth their while to switch refrigerants. I hope this is helpful. Rob Michalowicz BOVAR Environmental (416) 630-6331 ext. 293 robert_michalowicz@bovar.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Ammonia Refrigeration Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at INTERNET Date: 6/26/97 8:52 AM Re: Ammonia Refrigeration I am working with a beer brewer who currently cools his product with a refrigeration system uti- lizing 60,000 pounds of ammonia. With the CAA rules on risk management planning going into effect, he is looking for a substitute system that would not break the bank, and yet keep him in good graces with applicable rules and regs and out of necessity of doing RMP. This is a new area for me. What are similar industries doing about replacing ammonia refrigeration? Any thoughts? David F. Lawrence Indiana Dept. of Environmental Mgmt., 504 North Broadway, Gary, IN 46402. Phone (219) 881-6720; FAX (219) 881-6745; E-mail dlawr@opn.dem.state.in. us. From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 10:59:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA12972 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Wed, 02 Jul 1997 10:44:08 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 10:23:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" Subject: Powder Coating To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 10:44:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: E380ZWXKFBSEH X400-Mts-Identifier: [;80440120707991/764290@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I read this exchange with interest. I am curious if the "waste" mixed coating powder can be blended into some form of plastic? Would there be any way to supply a plastic products manufacturer to use the "waste" as a product where color is not critical? For example, would it blend into automotive bumper plastic which, I think, is coated to match the automobile? Or If this bakes into a brick, could the material blended into plastic and baked into strips and marketed as garden edging, etc? Could the speckles of color be marketed as a benefit - such as "one of a kind" consumer items? Would the finished product be non-toxic? Could the baked product be fashioned into flower pots, children's toys, etc ? Jo Anne From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 12:59:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA22296 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:55:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kennedy, Judith C." To: "'P2 Tech'" , P2Tech-Owner via SMTP Cc: "Goldberg, Bob" Subject: Polyurethane Foam Mfg: Methylene Chloride Substitute Date: Wed, 02 Jul 97 10:00:00 PDT Message-Id: <33BA8959@mailgate.ecy.wa.gov> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi, folks. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for the quick and comprehensive responses to my last request regarding supercritical CO2 cleaning. I'm working with a small polyurethane foam manufacturer (they make seat cushions for old cars!) that uses a low-pressure machine that automatically rinses the mixing head after each run with methylene chloride. What I'm looking for are case studies of the use of substitutes for the methylene chloride in these machines. I should note that I already know of other alternatives, such as high-pressure machines, self-cleaning mixing heads, etc. This situation requires a substitute for the methylene chloride, if any exist that work. I have also looked at the case study database in Envirosense, as well as other Web sites, and the P2Tech archives. I didn't find anything that answers this question. So, if any of you out there have had experience with this sort of operation, and have documented examples of substitutes that do the trick, please let me know. Thanks! Please e-mail me directly as well as the listserve. Bob Goldberg Washington State Department of Ecology P.O. Box 47775 Olympia, WA 98504-7775 (360) 407-6350 fax: (360) 407-6305 e-mail: bgol461@ecy.wa.gov URL: www.wa.gov/ecology/hwtr/ From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 14:59:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA28020 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970702185204.006ad704@tiac.net> X-Sender: jcantin@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 14:52:04 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, bgol461@ecy.wa.gov From: Jeff Cantin Subject: Re: Polyurethane Foam Mfg: Methylene Chloride Substitute Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 10:00 AM 7/2/97 PDT, you wrote: >I should note that I already know of other alternatives, such as >high-pressure machines, self-cleaning mixing heads, etc. This situation >requires a substitute for the methylene chloride, if any exist that work. > >I have also looked at the case study database in Envirosense, as well as >other Web sites, and the P2Tech archives. I didn't find anything that >answers this question. > >So, if any of you out there have had experience with this sort of operation, >and have documented examples of substitutes that do the trick, please let me >know. Thanks! Please e-mail me directly as well as the listserve. > >Bob Goldberg >Washington State Department of Ecology >P.O. Box 47775 >Olympia, WA 98504-7775 >(360) 407-6350 >fax: (360) 407-6305 >e-mail: bgol461@ecy.wa.gov >URL: www.wa.gov/ecology/hwtr/ Bob: I'll paraphrase from an EPA document we prepared with the assistance of Bill Battye of EC/R in Raleigh, NC. The document is Best Management Practices for Pollution Prevention in the Slabstock and Molded Flexible Polyurethane Foam Industry (EPA/625/R-96/005, September 1996). It's a very good summary with up to date technical information. Methylene chloride is used as an auxiliary blowing agent (ABA) to supplement CO2, the primary blowing agent. The vaporization of MCl increases the blowing action and removes excess heat from the polymerization reaction. Softer, lower density foams require more ABAs. The corrolary is that lowering the amount of ABA produces stiffer foam, and also increases risk of scorching or even fires. Options to reduce the use of ABA include use of foam softening additives and systems and mechanical cooling systems. Substitutes include: -- Liquid CO2 (CarDio Process), available as a retrofit. No U.S. firms had installed at time of writing though several were expected to install it. Licensed to Cannon USA in Mars, PA. -- Reduced presure foaming, which increases foaming efficiency and can eliminate the need for ABAs. There are several technologies available. -- Substitution of formic acid for some water in the formulation. Formic acid generates both CO and CO2, boosting the blowing power of the reaction. Not currently in use in the U.S. but licensed to Goldschmidt Chemical in Hopewell, VA. ////////////////////////// / Jeff Cantin / / Eastern Research Group / / 110 Hartwell Avenue / / Lexington, MA 02173 / ------------------------ \ jcantin@tiac.net \ \ \ \ [message created using \ \ recycled electrons] \ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 15:59:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA29668 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:14:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Greg Newman" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:22:47 EST Subject: computer recycling X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <2B5E7255F0A@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net A coworker is writing a fact sheet on computer recycling and waste management options. Does anyone have general information or case studies on these topics. Specifically he is looking for companies providing this service, economics, feasibility of recycling for householders and large companies. Thanks Greg Greg Newman NC Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance PO Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6526 Fax: (919) 715-6794 Email: Greg_Newman@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 16:33:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA29316 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "VIC YOUNG" To: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" , p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:14:30 EST Subject: Re: Powder Coating X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <2B4C3F33067@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Joanne: You bring up some good questions. Actually there are many good uses for the waste depending on the type of powder being applied. Powder coatings can be formulated in a variety of chemistries dpending on the characteristics required of the final product shell. In addition to resistance to UV rays and chemicals, the gloss, hardness and durabil;ity are just a few of the characteristics demanded of the final product. Because of the above it is extremely difficult to determine the characteristics of the waste stream and what it could be mixed with by a secondary user. The powders may be epoxies, acrylics, polyesters, and polyurethanes, with even the nylons, polypropelylenes and teflons also being used in specialized formulations. Since many of the resins don't tend to cohabitate, all powders must be sorted by color, chemistry, and supplier to be sure of a set of common characteristics for a blend. The powders are carried within the coating system in a "fluidized" state(floating in air) in order to get them to the "gun". Most powder systems make use of the High Voltage(100,000) volt Electrostaic charges to direct the particles to the workpiece. Since the larger particular pick up "more " charge, the "overspray" (recirculated powder) gradually becomes a mix of fine and superfine pieces that may lack some characteristics of the original batch of virgin material. Not to appear entirely negative to the reuse of offal from any process, The reuse of powders within the process or an alternate "fluidized Bed" coating process(heavy coatings like a dishwasher frame) might be a better use than to guess at the tensile and compression values of a remote use like a brick. Vic Young ======================================== Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 10:23:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" Subject: Powder Coating To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net I read this exchange with interest. I am curious if the "waste" mixed coating powder can be blended into some form of plastic? Would there be any way to supply a plastic products manufacturer to use the "waste" as a product where color is not critical? For example, would it blend into automotive bumper plastic which, I think, is coated to match the automobile? Or If this bakes into a brick, could the material blended into plastic and baked into strips and marketed as garden edging, etc? Could the speckles of color be marketed as a benefit - such as "one of a kind" consumer items? Would the finished product be non-toxic? Could the baked product be fashioned into flower pots, children's toys, etc ? Jo Anne Vic Young, Waste Reduction Resource Center PO Box 29569, Raleiigh, NC 27626-9569 (800)476-8686 Fax (919)715-6794 vic_young@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us http://www.owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 20:33:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA17935 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970702185036.006c1678@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net> X-Sender: thcg@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 18:50:36 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: THE HINSDALE CONSULTING GROUP Subject: Re: computer recycling In-Reply-To: <2B5E7255F0A@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Greg...At 03:22 PM 7/2/97 EST, you wrote: >Specifically he is looking for companies providing this >service, economics, feasibility of recycling for householders and >large companies. > >Thanks >Greg >Greg Newman One of the largest computer recycling companies in the USA is a group named HEARTWOOD COMPUTER COMPANY located in the state of North Carolina. Their contact information is: Richard Stewart, President Heartwood Computer Company phone: 703-283-6447 fax: 704-289-9229 Regards, /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// MARK REIDER, Managing Director THE HINSDALE CONSULTING GROUP Voice: (630) 887-8272 Fax: (630) 887-7703 e-mail: thcg@mailzone.com Strategic Environmental Management Consultants to the Process Manufacturing Industries. From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 2 21:33:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA18000 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970702185419.006a6944@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net> X-Sender: thcg@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 18:54:19 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: THE HINSDALE CONSULTING GROUP Subject: Re: computer recycling Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net OOOPPSSS!!!!...I used the wrong area code in my last posting... >Specifically he is looking for companies providing this >service, economics, feasibility of recycling for householders and >large companies. > >Thanks >Greg >Greg Newman One of the largest computer recycling companies in the USA is a group named HEARTWOOD COMPUTER COMPANY located in the state of North Carolina. Their contact information is: Richard Stewart, President Heartwood Computer Company Monroe, North Carolina phone: 704-283-6447 fax: 704-289-9229 Regards, /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// MARK REIDER, Managing Director THE HINSDALE CONSULTING GROUP Voice: (630) 887-8272 Fax: (630) 887-7703 e-mail: thcg@mailzone.com Strategic Environmental Management Consultants to the Process Manufacturing Industries. From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 01:33:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id AAA00370 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33BB2EEB.E94@uts.edu.au> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 14:48:02 +1000 From: Kirsty =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E1t=E9?= Organization: Centre for Environmental Design, Sydney Office X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Recycling post consumer paints Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello folks! Thought you may be able to assist me with this little dilemma we have here with a paint manufacturer in Australia who is trying to work out how we can effectively recycle paint, at the post consumer stage. That is paint stripped back off products as well as paints left in cans which may be contaminated. Anyone got any ideas? He was also wondering if there were any legislations or regulations about paint standards which would cut out that cheaper range of paints of low performance - which continue to harm the environment through continuous reapplication, deterioration etc. There is also the issue of packaging of paints! Not to mention VOC's! Any information would be useful! Kirsty Mate Research Officer Environmental Design From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 05:33:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id FAA10876 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 05:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "R.F.J. Boesten" Organization: Tebodin Consultants & Engineers To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 11:28:45 GMT+0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Recycling post consumer paints X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Hello folks! > > Thought you may be able to assist me with this little dilemma we have > here with a paint manufacturer in Australia who is trying to work out > how we can effectively recycle paint, at the post consumer stage. That > is paint stripped back off products as well as paints left in cans which > may be contaminated. Anyone got any ideas? > In the Netherlands post cosumer paint cans are collected throught he household hazardous waste collection scheme. The cans are processed in liquid nitrogen (cryogenic) so the paint can be removed from the cans very easy. The cans stripped from the paint, (including the labels) go to metal recycling. The paint residu is used as a fuel in waste incineration. Some research is going on on reusing the paint but I not sure what the outcome or progress of that research is. > He was also wondering if there were any legislations or regulations > about paint standards which would cut out that cheaper range of paints > of low performance - which continue to harm the environment through > continuous reapplication, deterioration etc. > No such regulation exsits in the Netherlands > There is also the issue of packaging of paints! Not to mention VOC's! For packaging there is the EU regulation on packaging waste which requires resue/recycling of packaging material by the producer/importer. Implementation is still topic of many discussions here. VOC in paint are being replaced by water based paints, but this is slow slow slow.... Feel free to contact me directly for more information Rene Boesten Tebodin Engineers and Consultants P.O. Box 16029 2500 BA DEN HAAG, The Netherlands tel: +31 70 3480232 fax: +31 70 3480 591 http://www.tebodin.nl From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 07:33:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA14986 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 07:28:06 -0400 From: Jeff Lewis To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: re: Computer Recycling Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Greg, A good resource is the "Electronics Reuse and Recycling Directory" put out by U.S. EPA (EPA530-B-97-01), March 1997. The directory contains a state-by-state listing of contacts for recycling of consumer electronics including computers. Good Luck, Jeff Lewis Ohio EPA/Office of Pollution Prevention (614) 644-2812 jeff.lewis@epa.state.oh.us From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 08:31:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA14823 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 07:23:45 -0400 From: Jeff Lewis To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: computer recycling -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Greg, A good resource is the "Electronics Reuse and Recycling Directory" put out by U.S. EPA (EPA530-B-7-97-01), March 1997. The directory contains a state-by-state listing of contacts for recycling of consumer electronics including computers. Good Luck, Jeff Lewis Ohio EPA/Office of Pollution Prevention (614) 644-2812 jeff.lewis@epa.state.oh.us From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 08:33:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA17134 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970702192043.4c6fddb6@mailbox.bgsu.edu> X-Sender: daveh@mailbox.bgsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 19:20:43 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Dave Heinlen Subject: Re: computer recycling In-Reply-To: <2B5E7255F0A@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 03:22 PM 7/2/1997 EST, you wrote: >A coworker is writing a fact sheet on computer recycling and waste >management options. Does anyone have general information or case >studies on these topics. > >Specifically he is looking for companies providing this >service, economics, feasibility of recycling for householders and >large companies. > >Thanks >Greg >Greg Newman >NC Division of Pollution Prevention >and Environmental Assistance >PO Box 29569 >Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 >Tel: (919) 715-6526 >Fax: (919) 715-6794 >Email: Greg_Newman@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us >Greg: There are two companies that I am aware of in the Ohio area that recycle computers. These are: SGS Computer Corp. 24300 Solon Road, Bedford Heights, Ohio 44146 (216) 786-8111 and Community Resource Center, 7030 Reading Road, Cincinnati, Ohio 45237 (513) 351-7696. If I can be of any further assistance, please let me know. Dave From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 09:31:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA15583 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." , "Jarrett, Marvin N." , "Mantooth, Jim G." , "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." Cc: "Scheffler, Peter K." , "Williams, Ronald J." Subject: RE: computer recycling Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:41:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net A contact at one company in Alabama taking old computers and recycling them as much as possible is: Tony Pearson Surplus Supply Rainbow City, AL 205-442-7360 Many companies donate old working computers to schools and other worthy organizations and can sometimes take tax breaks. >---------- >From: Greg Newman[SMTP:Greg_Newman@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us] >Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 1997 4:22 PM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: computer recycling > >A coworker is writing a fact sheet on computer recycling and waste >management options. Does anyone have general information or case >studies on these topics. > >Specifically he is looking for companies providing this >service, economics, feasibility of recycling for householders and >large companies. > >Thanks >Greg >Greg Newman >NC Division of Pollution Prevention >and Environmental Assistance >PO Box 29569 >Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 >Tel: (919) 715-6526 >Fax: (919) 715-6794 >Email: Greg_Newman@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us > From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 09:33:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA19121 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 08:55:46 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 03 Jul 1997 09:01:26 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 03 Jul 1997 09:01:26 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 001C833BBA2A615C-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 001C833BBA2A615C Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"001C833BBA2A615C*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 03 Jul 1997 09:01:26 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: P2Tech (Return requested) cc: "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear P2Tech, Anybody out there know of substitutes for pentachlorophenol when it comes to utility poles? I am particularly interested in the names of utilities that have switched from pentachlorophenol to creosote (and vice-versa) or have switched from pentachlorophenol to chromated copper arsenate (the stuff that gives the green tinge to pressure treated lumber used for decks, etc.) (and vice-versa). Also I would like to talk to any companies you know of that were THINKING of switching, but decided not to. Information on any other alternatives, like fiberglass impregnation of rotten wood on docks (which I have heard of, but know very little about), would be appreciated also. Thanks, Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 10:33:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA22753 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33BBD01E.3577@navix.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 09:15:26 -0700 From: "Richard Yoder, P.E." Organization: Nebraska Industrial Competitiveness Service X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P2Tech Subject: wood-fired boiler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2-techers: I know this a bit off of the normal focus, but I hope that casting this net wide will turn up some references to existing expertise.. I have a client who would like some names of researchers or consultants experienced in improving bio-fuel boiler efficiency. Specifically, the firebox on his wood-fired fire tube boiler is just that - a rectangular box - built with mass reduction as a greater priority than optimal heat transfer. His short-term objective is to send a request for proposal (RFP) asking for research or engineering services to improve the construction of his two units. The potential long-term goal is to commercialize the technology for installation elsewhere. I wonder if you know of institutions or firms that have done work in this area already? Thank you for your help in advance. And enjoy the holiday weekend. ry -- ****************************************************************** Richard Yoder, PE Nebraska Industrial NICS-NBDC Competetivenss Service 1101 Cornhusker Hwy. Ste. 302 800-MEP-4MFG Lincoln, Nebraska 68521 Nebraska Business phone 402/472-1183 Development Center fax 402/472-3363 402-595-2381 email ryoder@unomaha.edu ****************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 10:46:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA19682 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:13:14 -0600 From: KENNY D STEWARD To: bgol461@ecy.wa.gov, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Polyurethane Foam Mfg: Methylene Chloride Substitute -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_E9BB6CBA.482944FA" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_E9BB6CBA.482944FA Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Bob and/or Judith, We have been working on a project to breakdown cured polyurethane foam. We had a glass vial encased in polyurethane foam that we wanted to remove. We used n-methyl-2-pyrrolidone (NMP) to break down the foam into a slurry. The "breakthrough" time was decreased by adding heat to the sample. Additionally, we added the required technology to recycle the NMP onsite. It is a very good chemical. You can get information on NMP from ARCO Chemical among other manufacturers at http://www.arcochem.com/products/. There are many manufacturers of NMP. You should be aware than NMP is listed on the Toxic Release Inventory (TRI) for reporting under SARA Title 313. However, ARCO is leading the fight to have it removed. It is an excellent solvent with little to no health effects. It does not meet the characteristics of a RCRA hazardous waste. I would be happy to have one of my colleagues provide you more information. Feel free to contact me at the address below. Thanks! And Good Luck! Kenny Kenny Steward Pollution Prevention Pantex Plant ksteward@pantex.com >>> "Kennedy, Judith C." 07/02/97 11:00am >>> Hi, folks. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for the quick and comprehensive responses to my last request regarding supercritical CO2 cleaning. I'm working with a small polyurethane foam manufacturer (they make seat cushions for old cars!) that uses a low-pressure machine that automatically rinses the mixing head after each run with methylene chloride. What I'm looking for are case studies of the use of substitutes for the methylene chloride in these machines. I should note that I already know of other alternatives, such as high-pressure machines, self-cleaning mixing heads, etc. This situation requires a substitute for the methylene chloride, if any exist that work. I have also looked at the case study database in Envirosense, as well as other Web sites, and the P2Tech archives. I didn't find anything that answers this question. So, if any of you out there have had experience with this sort of operation, and have documented examples of substitutes that do the trick, please let me know. Thanks! Please e-mail me directly as well as the listserve. Bob Goldberg Washington State Department of Ecology P.O. Box 47775 Olympia, WA 98504-7775 (360) 407-6350 fax: (360) 407-6305 e-mail: bgol461@ecy.wa.gov URL: www.wa.gov/ecology/hwtr/ --=_E9BB6CBA.482944FA Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from cedar.cic.net by interlock.pantex.com with SMTP id AA16112 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:17:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA22296 for p2tech-out; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <33BA8959@mailgate.ecy.wa.gov> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 11:00:00 -0600 From: "Kennedy, Judith C." To: p2tech-owner%cedar.cic.net@internet.pantex.com, JKEN461%ecy.wa.gov@internet.pantex.com, p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Cc: BGOL461%ecy.wa.gov@internet.pantex.com Subject: Polyurethane Foam Mfg: Methylene Chloride Substitute Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hi, folks. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for the quick and comprehensive responses to my last request regarding supercritical CO2 cleaning. I'm working with a small polyurethane foam manufacturer (they make seat cushions for old cars!) that uses a low-pressure machine that automatically rinses the mixing head after each run with methylene chloride. What I'm looking for are case studies of the use of substitutes for the methylene chloride in these machines. I should note that I already know of other alternatives, such as high-pressure machines, self-cleaning mixing heads, etc. This situation requires a substitute for the methylene chloride, if any exist that work. I have also looked at the case study database in Envirosense, as well as other Web sites, and the P2Tech archives. I didn't find anything that answers this question. So, if any of you out there have had experience with this sort of operation, and have documented examples of substitutes that do the trick, please let me know. Thanks! Please e-mail me directly as well as the listserve. Bob Goldberg Washington State Department of Ecology P.O. Box 47775 Olympia, WA 98504-7775 (360) 407-6350 fax: (360) 407-6305 e-mail: bgol461@ecy.wa.gov URL: www.wa.gov/ecology/hwtr/ --=_E9BB6CBA.482944FA-- From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 11:33:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA23807 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BC87FF.A3A76C80@hlynch.sayer.com> From: Holly Lynch To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: computer recycling Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:22:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC87FF.A3AF0DA0" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC87FF.A3AF0DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg -- I recommend that you contact Dawn Amore of the National Safety = Council's Environmental Heath Center (202) 293-2270, x 483. Dawn is leading the Electronic Product Recovery Roundtable which is a = new organization established to promote the development and use of = environmentally and economically sound strategies for managing = electronic equipment that has reached the end of its useful life as well = as design for the environment/disassembly for computers and electronics. The Roundtable is in the initial stages of development but Dawn has the = minutes of a summary report of a conference as well as the names and = addresses of all attendees that conference, held last February -- which = exlored all issues associated with the recovery and recycling of = electronic equipment. Many recylers of computers attended. =20 Also, EPA published an "Electronics Reuse and Recycling Directory" = (EPA530-B-97-001) last March that lists original equipment manufacturers = that take back electronic products for reuse or recycling; scrap dealers = that utilize certain materials/components of these products; businesses = that refurbish or disassemble such items; charities or community = organizations that collect and donate such items to those in need; and = exchanges that link buyers and sellers of such products. Hope this info helps. Holly Lynch Director of Environmental, Health, and Safety Programs Institute for Interconnecting and Packaging Electronic Circuits =20 ---------- From: Greg Newman[SMTP:Greg_Newman@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 1997 4:22 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: computer recycling A coworker is writing a fact sheet on computer recycling and waste=20 management options. Does anyone have general information or case studies on these topics. =20 Specifically he is looking for companies providing this=20 service, economics, feasibility of recycling for householders and=20 large companies. 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Apparently this rosin leaves a residue, which must be removed after the solder is applied. A small company in Colorado is currently using a vapor degreaser with perc to remove this residue. Does anyone have any experience with any safer alternatives? From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 13:33:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA00801 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33BBD39D.4117@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 11:30:21 -0500 From: Bob Fletcher Organization: Roma Land Florist & Gifts//Safety Training Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative References: <"001C833BBA2A615C*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Moulton, Peter T wrote: > > Dear P2Tech, > Anybody out there know of substitutes for pentachlorophenol when it > comes to utility poles? > I am particularly interested in the names of utilities that have > switched from pentachlorophenol to creosote (and vice-versa) or have > switched from pentachlorophenol to chromated copper arsenate (the stuff > that gives the green tinge to pressure treated lumber used for decks, > etc.) (and vice-versa). > Also I would like to talk to any companies you know of that were > THINKING of switching, but decided not to. > > Information on any other alternatives, like fiberglass impregnation > of rotten wood on docks (which I have heard of, but know very little > about), would be appreciated also. > > Thanks, > Peter T. Moulton > Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation > State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection > State House Station #17 > Augusta, ME 04333 > tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 > Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us > case (upper or lower) does not matter on email addressThere is a company in Millington, TN that manufactures wood preservative, they also work with utility companies to determine if poles are serviceable and make inspections. Company name is Osmose, sorry but I don't have a phone number. They may give you some additional insight. Good Luck, Bob Fletcher, CET, CHMM From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 14:33:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA05875 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707031750.NAA08397@babar.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:50:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: wood-fired boiler Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 09:15 AM 7/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >P2-techers: > >I know this a bit off of the normal focus, but I hope that casting this >net wide will turn up some references to existing expertise.. > >I have a client who would like some names of researchers or consultants >experienced in improving bio-fuel boiler efficiency. Specifically, the >firebox on his wood-fired fire tube boiler is just that - a rectangular >box - built with mass reduction as a greater priority than optimal heat >transfer. > >His short-term objective is to send a request for proposal (RFP) asking >for research or engineering services to improve the construction of his >two units. The potential long-term goal is to commercialize the >technology for installation elsewhere. > >I wonder if you know of institutions or firms that have done work in this >area already? > >Thank you for your help in advance. And enjoy the holiday weekend. > >ry >-- > > >****************************************************************** >Richard Yoder, PE Nebraska Industrial >NICS-NBDC Competetivenss Service >1101 Cornhusker Hwy. Ste. 302 800-MEP-4MFG >Lincoln, Nebraska 68521 > Nebraska Business >phone 402/472-1183 Development Center >fax 402/472-3363 402-595-2381 >email ryoder@unomaha.edu >****************************************************************** > When I was at Battelle in the early 1980's, they were doing a lot of work on burning of various fuels for energy efficiency and pollution efficiency, including various fluidized beds and wood stoves. You might try them, in Columbus, OH. area code 614. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 15:33:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA10513 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7B0D306CDFB1D011B4C80800369567032FEF01@NUWCKPTN.kpt.nuwc.navy.mil> From: Kohn Dean D To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: solder flux residue Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:07:14 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Neil, Have you looked into a small steam cleaning system called the "Mini-Max". Produced by PDQ Precision, San Diego (619) 581-6370. The system uses presurized steam and a hand-held wand which can be directed to the flux covered areas to remove grime, grease and flux. Dean Kohn Naval Undersea Warfare Center 610 Dowell St Code 143, Bldg 83T Keyport, WA 98345-7610 Phone: (360) 396-5665 Fax: (360) 396-7683 Email: dkohn@kpt.nuwc.navy.mil > ---------- > From: NEIL KOLWEY[SMTP:nkolwey@smtpgate.dphe.state.co.us] > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 1997 10:36 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: solder flux residue > > Some fluxes contain a "rosin" as one of the active ingredients. > Apparently this rosin leaves a residue, which must be removed after > the > solder is applied. A small company in Colorado is currently using a > vapor > degreaser with perc to remove this residue. Does anyone have any > experience with any safer alternatives? > From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 16:12:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA07145 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:03:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:11:49 EST Subject: Re: solder flux residue X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <2CCB89F6C7B@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 17:36:39 +0000 From: NEIL KOLWEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: solder flux residue Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Neil asks: Some fluxes contain a "rosin" as one of the active ingredients. Apparently this rosin leaves a residue, which must be removed after the solder is applied. A small company in Colorado is currently using a vapor degreaser with perc to remove this residue. Does anyone have any experience with any safer alternatives? ************************************************* Neil, The following are 16 abstracts of articles we have on the subject. Give me your Fax, address, and phone number and I can send you hard copies of anything that interests you. C;\PROCITE\RLIBY\solder 1. Anderson, Sam, and William C. Roman. "Accelerated Life Testing of Semiaqueous-Cleaned Surface Mount Devices." Surface Mount Technology 5, no. 10 (October 1991): 51-52. This article focuses on board cleaning, including flux and post-solder cleaning. EES 0079. 3600/Board Cleaning. 2. Berger, Harvey L. "Precision Spray Fluxing of SMTs Using Ultrasonic Nozzles." Expo SMT/HiDEP '90, 3 pages. The article examines and gives a history of the ultrasonic nozzle. The nozzle can be used to apply "no clean" fluxes to circuit boards. EES 0049. 3600/Spray Fluxing/Circuit Boards/Ultrasonic Nozzle/SMT's/Post-solder Cleaning Minimization. 3. Pollution Prevention Research Project: Evaluation of Alternatives To Fluoboric Acid Solder Plating In The Circuit Board Industry (Final Report), Capsule Environmental Engineering, Inc. St. Paul, Minnesota: Minnesota Office of Waste Management, 30 July 1992. This report evaluates alternatives to using fluoboric acid solder plating in the circuit board industry. The alternatives reviewed are tin sulfate, organic sulfuric acid, hot air leaching, and solde rable organic coatings. Existing and emerging technologies are discussed, along with barriers to implementation of these options. FMP 0670. 3400. 4. Evaluation of Controlled Atmosphere Reflow Soldering of No-Clean Solder Pastes, Ray P. Chamberland. 9 pages. This report presents no-clean reflow soldering as an alternative to post reflow solvent cleaning. The no-clean soldering paste may require a controlled atmosphere to reflow. EES 0144. 3600/CFCs/Cleaning/Soldering/No-clean solder pastes/Controlled atmosphere reflow soldering. 5. Fecsik, Paul W., and Bruce T. Miller. "Advancements in Copper/Solder Plating at Hughes Aircraft Company." 79th AESF Annual Technical Conference SUR/FIN '92, 1017-1042. II. : AESF Press. The teaming concepts, design of experiments, and statistical process control techniques utilized in designing a new plating line at the HAC Tucson Facility are fully described. FMP 1116. 3400/Plating. 6. ________. Implementing a Waste Minimization Strategy on Your Copper/Solder Line, 12 pages. Describes a waste minimization strategy for a circuit board process line. EES 0121. 3600/Electronic/Printed wire board/Waste minimization/Copper plating. 7. Hemens-Davis, Chantal, and Roy Sunstrum. "No-Clean: Material Compatibility Issues." Circuits Assembly (March 1993): 47-54. Presents a study conducted on no-clean flux use on printed circuit boards. EES 0100. 3600/Solder/Low solids flux/No-clean/Compatibility. 8. Hosking, F. Michael. "Integration of Environmentally Compatible Soldering Technologies for Waste Minimization." Waste Reduction of Hazardous Solvents Session, New Mexico: Sandia National Laborato ries & U.S. Dept. of Energy. This conference overhead collection discusses environmentally compatible soldering technologies. CFC-free solvents, aqueous-based cleaning, water soluable fluxes and fluxless solder technologies are discussed. EES 0012. 3600/Waste Minimization/CFC Alternatives/Solder Technology. 9. Analytical Methodology for Comparative Evaluation of RMA Solder Pastes, H. H. Law et al. 15 pages. Murray Hill, NJ: AT&T Bell Laboratories. This paper examines the kinds of analytical methodology used for comparative evaluation of RMA solder pastes on circuit board components, and the results of this evaluation. EES 0153. 3600/RMA solder pastes/Electronic circuit boards. 10. Morris, John R., and N. Bandyopadhyay. "No-Clean Solder Paste Reflow Processes." Printed Circuit Assembly 4, no. 2 (February 1990): 26-31. EES 0057. 3600. 11. Nessman, Donald O., and Gary J. Robertson. "Enviromental Process Conversions for Electronics Manufacturing." 9th Annual Aerospace Hazardous Materials Management Conference, 33 pages. This document consists of both a technical paper and a set of overhead slide pictures. This paper identifies process conversions to eliminate ODCs and minimize VOC chemicals in electronics manufacturing. Solder coating, solder paste removal, hybrid cleaning, and vacuum fixture cleanin g are discussed. EES 0099. 3600/Electronics/Process conversions/Solder/Cleaning/Aqueous/Abrasives/Conformal coating/ODCs/VOCs. 12. Niemczura, Paul, and Frank Murch. "Eliminating CFC Cleaning Solvents." Circuits Assembly (June 1993): 46,48-49. This article provides a comparison of traditional RMA solder paste no-clean formulations to synthetic no-clean pastes for printed circuit board use. EES 0102. 3600/Solder paste/RMA/Printed circuit boards/CFCs/Cleaning/Solvents. 13. Schneider, Alvin F. "VOC-Free Fluxes." Circuits Assembly (June 1993): 41-43. This article provides a comparison of VOC-reduced solder fluxes to alcohol-based fluxes. EES 0103. 3600/Printed circuit boards/Solder/Flux/VOCs. 14. Seelig, Karl, and Rick Black. "No-Clean Solder Pastes: The Testing Dilemma." Surface Mount Technology (November 1993): 55-56. This article briely summarizes the problems of testing the cleaning properties of no-clean solder pastes. When qualifying a no-clean solder paste, the primary concern is the nature and safety of the flux residue on the circuit board, after reflow. The residue may impact three areas: current leakage, test points, and aesthetics. Thes areas and test methods are discussed. EES 0139. 3600/Cleaning/Solder/Circuit boards/Flux residue. 15. Walsh, William C. "Removal of Rosin and Resin Based Solder Flux from Electronic Assemblies with N-Methylpyrrolidone/Water Mixtures." 19 pp. Parsippany, NJ: BASF Corporation, Chemicals Division. BASF Corporation, Chemicals Divsion. CAP 0818. 16. Wesselmann, Carl H. "Controlled-Atmosphere Soldering Finds Its Place." Surface Mount Technology (April 1993): 7. This article provides an overview of nitrogen convection systems for use in soldering operations. These systems could lead to the possible use of weaker, non-residue fluxes. EES 0104. 3600/Nitrogen/Solder/Flux/Controlled-atmosphere. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 16:16:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA11693 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:19:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 3-Jul-1997 15:23:08 -0400; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <5295BA7301501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Re: solder flux residue From: dionne@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Dionne, Denis) Date: 03 Jul 97 15:28:28 EDT In-Reply-To: <5095BA7301501C76@-SMF-> References: <5095BA7302501C76@-SMF-> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi, Several products are available to remove fluxes residues: -Terpene based cleaners (But really hard to rinse, at least the product we had tested) -Citrus based cleaners (The smell got to me after a while... check with INLAND, I think they have a "scent free" version) -Sometimes if your lucky, hot water (pressure sprayed) will do the job... worth a try -A product called IONOX (from KYZEN) worked really well for one application where we really had a hard residue to remove Have you looked at alternative fluxes/solder? Some are available that do not require cleaning (but still leave small amounts of residue), call their current solder provider, they may already carry such a product. Also, with the above alternatives, you may require additional energy (in the form of temperature, agitation or exposure time) to properly clean your parts. We used a high tech immersed spinning device that basically could put something into orbit if it came loose from the fixturing. Drying becomes an issue with most of the above (water involved). Make sure that all components are compatible with the alternative cleaners. Note: These are my views and is not meant as an endorsement of the above vendors. Denis Dionne Technology Analyst, Concurrent Technologies Corporation E-Mail: dionne@ctc.com http://www.ctc.com Phone: (814) 269-2739 Fax: (814) 269-6218 From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 16:33:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA15972 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: mromansk@VNET.IBM.COM Message-Id: <199707032031.QAA15954@cedar.cic.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 97 16:39:47 EDT To: SMTP2@VNET.IBM.COM, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: solder flux residue Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Marianne Romansky Process Development, Celestica Subject: Re: solder flux residue Reply to NEIL KOLWEY Rosin-based fluxes may be cleaned off with semi-aqueous or aqueous solutions. There are several suppliers of cleaners and cleaning equipment. Check the IPC (Institute for Interconnecting and Packaging Electronic Circuits) bulletin board archives at http://www.ipc.org, especially a note from William Kenyon of Jan 14, 1997. Contacts which I have at hand are: Armakleen (Church & Dwight), 1-800-824-0866 or 609-683-5900; Microcare 203-585-7912 or 800-638-0125; Kyzen, 800-845-5524 or 615-831-0888;Kester Solder http://www.kester.com; AlphaMetals 201-434-6778. Hope this helps. Original message: " Some fluxes contain a "rosin" as one of the active ingredients. Apparently this rosin leaves a residue, which must be removed after the solder is applied. A small company in Colorado is currently using a vapor degreaser with perc to remove this residue. Does anyone have any experience with any safer alternatives?" Marianne Romansky Phone 1(416)448-6284 Celestica Inc. mromansk@celestica.com fax -4736 844 Don Mills Rd., MS34/178, North York, Ontario M3C 1V7 Canada From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 17:15:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA10900 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 14:11:49 -0500 From: Christine Twait Subject: Small Business Regulatory Assistance Act To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <33BBF975.5A70@acad.uni.edu> Organization: Iowa Waste Reduction Center MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2 Assistance Providers: The Small Business Committee in the U.S. Senate marked up a reauthorization of the Small Business Administration programs. Included in this reauthorization was a section that would authorize Small Business Development Centers (SBDCs) to provide, among other things, environmental regulatory assistance. Section 502 of the bill gives SBDCs the role of wide-ranging regulatory assistance. Specifically, part of the section 502 summary states, "This section further clarifies the SBDC's role in working with SBA to assist small businesses in recognizing regulations that affect their businesses and to make counseling and support materials available on methods of complying with these regulations. This section directs SBDCs to provide counseling and technology development assistance when necessary to help small businesses find solutions for complying with environmental, energy, health, safety and other federal, state, and local regulations." Full partnership with existing, well-established resources for environmental regulatory assistance does not appear to be part of the bill. To review the reauthorization summary, click on the following link: http://www.iwrc.org/sbnews.html This link will also provide you with additional information on the Small Business Regulatory Assistance Act, including proposed changes. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Have a great 4th! Christine Twait Program Manager Iowa Waste Reduction Center (319) 273-2079 From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 17:33:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA18261 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707032107.RAA18261@cedar.cic.net> From: linda_jekel_at_chppm3__apgea@chppm-ccmail.apgea.army.mil To: Subject: Re: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net How far can you go with plastic lumber? Is burying the cable possible? Linda Jekel ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at Internet-Mail Date: 7/3/97 10:18 AM Dear P2Tech, Anybody out there know of substitutes for pentachlorophenol when it comes to utility poles? Information on any other alternatives, like fiberglass impregnation of rotten wood on docks (which I have heard of, but know very little about), would be appreciated also. Thanks, Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 3 18:33:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA21152 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:24:00 -0500 From: To: X-Mailer: OPN:Office Subject: solder flux residue Message-Id: <97Jul3.171313est.9043@mailgate.isd.state.in.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ** Orig: 07/03/97 12:36 pm ** ** SMTP: s. Postmaster ** solder flux residue Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:36:39 -0500 From: NEIL KOLWEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Some fluxes contain a "rosin" as one of the active ingredients. Apparently this rosin leaves a residue, which must be removed after the solder is applied. A small company in Colorado is currently using a vapor degreaser with perc to remove this residue. Does anyone have any experience with any safer alternatives? ------------------- Received: from idem.dem.state.in.us by chesA.dem.state.in.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA181086; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:49:14 -0500 Received: by idem.dem.state.in.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10585; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:47:47 -0500 Received: from isd.state.in.us(165.139.140.2) by idem.dem.state.in.us via smap (V1.3) id sma012885; Thu Jul 3 14:47:30 1997 Received: from cedar.cic.net ([192.131.22.3]) by mailgate.isd.state.in.us with SMTP id <8426>; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:47:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA01640 for p2tech-out; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Subject: Re: Ozone treatment In-reply-to: <33B943C2.5330@cipn.es> To: p2tech Message-id: <4049401504071997/A14779/FREIA/11B723E82F00*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11B723E82F00 X400-MTS-identifier: [;4049401504071997/A14779/FREIA] Hop-count: 0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Ozonation can remove COD and color by 90% without much trouble. It is getting to 95-99% where the amount of ozone needed and reaction time increase greatly. Every effluent will depend on the dye types and organics present. For many application the 90% reduction will allow the reuse of the water, but all of this depends on the quality of the goods made from the reused water and the acceptance of the water by the dyers. Also, ozonation may add impurities to the water and the organics and impurities will build up as the recycling of the water is continued. Henry Boyter, Jr., PhD Senior Scientist/Director of EH&S Earth Tech - Charlottesville 1115 5th St. SW Charlottesville, VA 22902 HBoyter@am.earthtech.com The opinions expressed are those of Dr. Boyter and are not necessarily those of EarthTech. "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied,-- "If you seek for Eldorado!" **************************************************** Dear sirs, I would appreciate if you could give me any information about Treatment of textile, leather and dye effluents by means of ozone. In concret I would appreciate any information about color and COD reduction. Thanks in advance for your help, best regards Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona Spain e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es fax: +34 3 414 45 82 From p2tech-owner Sun Jul 6 22:34:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id VAA08291 for p2tech-out; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:56:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199707070156.UAA26590@mx2.io.com> X-Sender: jamesem@mail.io.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Michael R. James" Subject: Re: solder flux residue Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 05:36 PM 7/3/97 +0000, you wrote: >Some fluxes contain a "rosin" as one of the active ingredients. >Apparently this rosin leaves a residue, which must be removed after the >solder is applied. A small company in Colorado is currently using a vapor >degreaser with perc to remove this residue. Does anyone have any >experience with any safer alternatives? > ************************************* You have two choices. One may be the preferred. There exist, aqueous washers that will remove the residues. The preferred choice will be to change the process to a rosin free flux. This is easier to clean. The parts washer companies have been successful in getting the military to accept the substitued flux in case you run into the " the Air Force prevent us from changing response" assuming that you are dealing with a military specification. During a recent installation for a customer, we had to pay particular attention to the sanitary sewer permits for the new waste stream. Ended up recycling the wash water to maximum extent possible and then evaporating the H20 and shipping the residue in a drum. Bottom line is there is no need to invent a solution. There are options in current production today. Depending on volume cost may be in the $20K range. Good luck Mike James Michael R. James 1004 Lime Rock Drive Round Rock, TX 78681 512-244-3631 512-244-0853 fax jamesem@io.com From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 7 12:34:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA16440 for p2tech-out; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D0158B004@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Baskir, Jesse N." To: "'P2Tech'" Subject: FW: Potential TAPP-IN newsletter continuation by a University und er A ATCCwork-study program Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:29:59 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The following message may be of interest to University folks/students with an interest in textiles: > ---------- > From: Sharma, Aarti > Sent: Monday, July 07, 1997 11:55 AM > To: 'texnet@clean.rti.org' > Cc: HBoyter@earthtech.com; hutchine@ix.netcom.com; > mike.buttrum@USINY.mail.abb.com; mitsy@compuserve.com; > Ramtox01@aol.com > Subject: Potential TAPP-IN newsletter continuation by a > University under A ATCCwork-study program > We are seeking ways to sustain the TAPP-IN newsletter, which provides environmental news information summaries for textile facilities. The > American Association of Textile Chemists and Colorists (AATCC), here > in > Research Triangle Park, have taken an active interest in the > newsletter > from the beginning of the project, and have been running exerpts from > the newsletter in their journal, Textile Chemist and Colorist. > > AATCC is interested in exploring the possibility of establishing a > work-study program at a University to pay for a student to bring out > the newsletter on a quarterly basis, under the supervision of a > professor. The student would need to have an interest in and some > background on environmental issues and terminology. Preferably, there > should be some interaction between the school's environmental and > textile programs in bringing out the newsletter. For example, the > student could be from a textile school, but get advice / feedback from > a > professor in an environmental program. RTI would provide initial > assistance in getting the program set up - for example, providing > information on all the literature sources and contacts used, initial > review, etc. > > If you have an interest in such a program, please contact me directly. > We have not as yet worked out all the details, so any suggestions or > other options would also be very useful. We anticipate bringing out > two > more issues of the TAPP-IN newsletter under this project (the next one > is expected Aug 15). The last issue of the newsletter (Nov) would > present a good opportunity to work with and guide a student. We are > planning for complete adoption of the newsletter by a University > around > the beginning of next year. > > Thank you! > > > Aarti Sharma > Research Triangle Institute > 3040 Cornwallis Road > RTP, NC 27709 > > 919-541-6149 > 919-541-7155 (F) > sharma@rti.org > > RTI Website: http://www.rti.org > > From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 7 15:58:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA25854 for p2tech-out; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707071854.OAA19786@smtp2.interramp.com> From: "Mike Keefe" To: "P2TECH" Subject: U.S. Compliance and Cleanup Costs Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:49:16 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I'm looking for some "big picture" numbers pertaining to (1) the national costs to industry for complying with media-specific environmental regulations, programs, etc. and (2) the latest total on Superfund cleanup costs. I need these for a presentation addressing, in part, why P2 is a better, and utlimately cheaper alternative to our current system! Thanks a ton... Michael Keefe keefem@psinet.com Tetra Tech Environmental Management From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 7 16:34:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA28474 for p2tech-out; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970707194213.0093a100@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 14:42:13 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, nppr@great-lakes.net From: "Lisa C. Morrison" Subject: Examples of Public/Private Collaboration Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Linda Countryman of the Minnesota Office of Envrionmental Assistance is looking for examples of public / private collaborations to provide P2 technical assistance. Examples include case studies, fact sheets or just brief stories. If you have anything that might help, please e-mail Linda directly at . She needs the information as soon as possible. Thanks, Lisa *************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison 217/244-6061 (v) Technical / Information Specialist 217/333-8944 (f) IL Waste Management and Research Cnt. morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 *************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 7 17:34:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA05393 for p2tech-out; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707072127.QAA94028@audumla.students.wisc.edu> X-Sender: enevers@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 17:07:58 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Elizabeth Nevers Subject: Re: Garbage Diposals & Dishwashers Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 10:30 AM 5/30/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >I would like to know what people think about garbage disposals. After taking a >few waastewater courses in college, I was convinced that the use of garbage >disposals for food waste was better than disposal in landfills. Other friends >have said that the thick waste produced by garbage disposals create problems >when people try to dispose of eggshells and skins of vegetables which are not >easily degraded. > >What is the consensus? Better to throw everything possible into a garbage >disposal or into a conventional garbage can? > >Also, are automatic dishwashers more or less efficient than handwashing? > >Thanks > > >maya_shah@radian.com Maya, With our Home*A*Syst program we do not recommend that people install garbage disposals if they are on a private wastewater treatment system such as a septic tank. These systems were not designed to handle "unprocessed food waste". A sewage treatment plant is a different story. For more info on how septic tanks, other private wastewater treatment systems, and their proper care and "feeding." check our website under Slide Training Programs. Our training manual on "Household Wastewater Treatment Managment" is on this site with slides and script. The URL is http://www.wisc.edu/farmasyst/train.html ================================== Liz Nevers Nat'l Farm*A*Syst / Home*A*Syst Programs B142 Steenbock Library 550 Babcock Drive Madison, Wisconsin 53706 Phone: 608-265-2774 Fax: 608-265-2775 Email: enevers@facstaff. wisc.edu Web site: http://www.wisc.edu/farmasyst ================================== From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 7 18:49:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA06338 for p2tech-out; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:36:12 -0400 (EDT) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199707072136.OAA21769@netcom17.netcom.com> Subject: Re: U.S. Compliance and Cleanup Costs To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:36:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199707071854.OAA19786@smtp2.interramp.com> from "Mike Keefe" at Jul 7, 97 12:49:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The US Dept of Commerce used to put out Pollutant Abatement Costs and Expenditure (PACE) reports. I don't know if they're still being made. You'd probably have to go to your nearest federal repository (or is that depository?) to find them. ==================================================================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. ==================================================================== From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 7 19:34:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA09532 for p2tech-out; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199707072234.PAA19318@netcom11.netcom.com> Subject: p2 textbook announcement To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:34:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Professor Dave Allen of the University of Texas at Austin and I recently finished a pollution prevention textbook called "Pollution Prevention for Chemical Processes" (Wiley, 1997). Chapters are 1. Introductory Terms and Concepts PART I: MACROSCALE POLLUTION PREVENTION 2. Wastes and Emissions in the United States 3. Industrial Ecology 4. Life Cycle Assessment PART II: MESOSCALE POLLUTION PREVENTION 5. Waste Audits and Emission Inventories 6. Pollution Prevention for Unit Operations 7. Preventing Fugitive and Secondary Emissions 8. Flowsheet Analysis for Pollution Prevention 9. Management of Pollution Prevention Activities at Industrial Facilities 10. Pollution Prevention Case Study Problem Modules PART III: MICROSCALE POLLUTION PREVENTION 11. Microscale Pollution Prevention There are questions for discussion, quantitative problems, and open-ended problems at the end of each chapter in addition to the chapter on case study problem modules. Also lots of figures and tables and resources for further information, and an anal-retentive index (thank you very much). If you'd like more information, e-mail your address directly to me and I'll send you a flyer. (Don't reply to the listserver, that would be adding insult to injury.) ==================================================================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 1-818-878-0454 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 rosselot@netcom.com U.S.A. ==================================================================== From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 08:34:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA14073 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 08:08:05 -0400 From: David Williams To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Requests for Results on History of the Environment -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Glenn: I would like an electronic copy of your presentation. It sounds like something I can incorporate into P2 training presentations that I conduct for my company. My e-mail address is as follows: Williad7@ahp.com Thanks. David Williams, CHMM Project Manager American Home Products Corporation Parsippany, NJ 07054 (973) 683-2269 (973) 683-4066 (fax) From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 09:33:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA14384 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970707191659.4f3f1e1a@mailbox.bgsu.edu> X-Sender: daveh@mailbox.bgsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 19:16:59 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Dave Heinlen Subject: Re: Examples of Public/Private Collaboration In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970707194213.0093a100@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 02:42 PM 7/7/1997 -0500, you wrote: >Linda Countryman of the Minnesota Office of Envrionmental Assistance is >looking for examples of public / private collaborations to provide P2 >technical assistance. Examples include case studies, fact sheets or just >brief stories. > >If you have anything that might help, please e-mail Linda directly at >. She needs the information as soon as >possible. > >Thanks, >Lisa >*************************************************************************** >Lisa C. Morrison 217/244-6061 (v) >Technical / Information Specialist 217/333-8944 (f) >IL Waste Management and Research Cnt. morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu >One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 >*************************************************************************** > >Lisa, For the past four years, Bowling Green State University in Bowling Green, Ohio has provided several types of assistance to the community. The Department of Environmental Health and Safety not only provides whatever technical assistance it can, but it also acts as a clearinghouse for the identification and distribution of "orphan" chemicals (those that are still useful but unwanted). All services are provided free of charge. The chemical transfer program has involved other academic instituions (high schools, colleges and universities, etc.) as well as small businesses and industries. The program has involved transfers of abot 3,100 pounds of solids and 1,100 gallons of liquids to "needy" institutions and facilities. (Not bad when mainly small quantities of materials are involved - grams, pounds, liters, gallons). The program has also been responsible for saving approximately $350,000 in disposal and purchase costs. If you would like more information on this recycling program, please feel free to contact me at (419) 372-2173 or at daveh@bgnet.bgsu.edu. Dave From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 10:02:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA17365 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707081306.JAA17365@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: froilan@fi.mdp.edu.ar (Jorge Froilan Gonzalez) Subject: On P2 for fisheries and horticultural canning/preserving Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear people, I have been asked to prepare teaching and training materials on P2 for the two main food industries in my area: fish procesing (filleting, canning and fishmeal, mainly) and also for horticultural products canning and preserving. I wonder if the fellow members of this list could let me know about previously published materials on these subjects, and also on sources or repositories of information. Any ponter to resources or suggestions will be certainly of help. Best regards Froilan ********************************************************************** Jorge Froilan Gonzalez, Ph.D. froilan@patora.fi.mdp.edu.ar Chemical Engineering Department Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata TE: (+54) (23) 81 66 00 Juan B. Justo 4302 7600 Mar del Plata FAX: (+54) (23) 81 00 46 ARGENTINA Alternate e-mail: froilan@satlink.com ********************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 10:34:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA19596 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:52:11 -0400 (EDT) From: srivasta@dwsd.org (Pradeep Srivastava) X-Sender: srivasta@sparkle To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Chlorine Dioxide As a Disinfectant Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I would appreciate if someone would share with me information on disinfection of secondary effluent of an activated sludge treatment process of a POTW using Chlorine Dioxide. The secondary flow we are expected to treat can be as high as 930 MGD. Thanks. Pradeep Srivastava Process Engineer Detroit Water & Sewerage Dept. 303 South Livernois Detroit, MI 48209 Phone:(313)297-5808 From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 10:42:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA17437 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707081307.JAA17437@cedar.cic.net> From: "Glenn Stephens (717) 772-8926" Subject: Environmental History--an incident To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net As I work to make my "environmental history" file available to you, an article appearing in the Lancaster, PA "Intelligencer Journal" at Page A-1 on Monday, July 7, 1997, may be of interest. It is entitled "Toxic chemicals often spread on fields with fertilizers." I intend to use this as a follow-up slide entitled "Is COMPLIANCE or RISK the PROPER BUSINESS FOCUS?" This article describes what I feel is the very basis for environmental accounting (and/or sound environmental management policies): 1. the use of components in a product or process that have a potential environmental impact eventually leads to an incident 2. which leads to liability and the adverse impact of future costs (note: first driven by the market) 3. which leads to an eventual legislative or regulatory tightening which nudges the future cost effect higher (note: in response to the public) Question: Do companies who look at what really drives their costs and effectively deal with this up front have a profitability (and/or competitive) advantage? From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 11:34:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA26492 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 10:26:39 -0500 From: Tim Greene Subject: Re: U.S. Compliance and Cleanup Costs In-reply-to: <199707071854.OAA19786@smtp2.interramp.com> X-Sender: greenett@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <3.0.1.32.19970708102639.00692d30@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 12:49 PM 7/7/97 -0600, Michael Keefe wrote: > >I'm looking for some "big picture" numbers pertaining to (1) the national >costs to industry for complying with media-specific environmental >regulations, programs, etc. and (2) the latest total on Superfund cleanup >costs. I need these for a presentation addressing, in part, why P2 is a >better, and utlimately cheaper alternative to our current system! Thanks a >ton... > (1) Try the 1990 publication "The Costs of a Clean Environment" from the US EPA (EPA-230-12-90-084). This report to Congress was also done in 1979 if you are interested (2) You might also try the (unfortunately discontinued) MA-200 series from the Bureau of the Census (SuDocs # C 56.216 MA 200 (year)). The time series runs from 1973 to 1994. (3) Finally, there is a series of articles "Pollution Abatment and Control Expenditures" in the __Survey of Current Business__ (also discontinued). (4) Superfund cleanup costs are anyone's and everyone's guess; you might start with RAND numbers and then expand into a more conventional literature search. Tim Greene ****************************************************** Timothy T. Greene Vanderbilt Center for Environmental Management Studies 1207 18th Avenue South Nashville, TN 37212 (615) 343-0739 Fax: (615) 343-7408 greenett@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu http://www.vanderbilt.edu/VCEMS ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 11:35:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA19054 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:35:21 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 08 Jul 1997 09:41:01 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 08 Jul 1997 09:41:01 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 06ADC33C2436D2EF-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 06ADC33C2436D2EF Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"06ADC33C2436D2EF*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 08 Jul 1997 09:41:01 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: P2Tech (Return requested) cc: "Kavanah, Brian W" (Return requested), "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: FW: p2 recognition programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Has anyone implemented this kind of direct recognition. The State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) has instituted its "Environmental Leader" Program for gasoline stations that recognizes gasoline stations that are "up to snuff" when it comes to environmental regulations. They receive a snazzy "Environmental Leader" sticker for their window, plus some other promotional material, such as a sample press release, camera ready logos to use in advertising, recognition at the Governor's annual Environmental Excellence award lunchon, if they make the grade. Here is how it works: 1. They read our long-in-the-making, multi-media, short (30 pages), very good looking "Maine Gasoline Stations Model Facility Guide". 2. Perform a "self-audit" using the checklists included in the guide. 3. Apply to the DEP for an "Environmental Leader" recognition package. 4. Get inspected by the DEP. 5. Receive the recognition package if they pass. To get a better idea of the program you can read the first two pages of the booklet (reproduced below). To get additional information contact . . . Brian Kavanah Small Business Technical Assistance Program Office of Innovation and Assistance, Maine DEP State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 (207) 287-6188 fax:(207) 287-2814 Brian.W.Kavanah@state.me.us . . THE PROGRAM . . . The Environmental Leader Program is a voluntary effort developed by the Maine Department of Environmental Protection, in consultation with the Maine Oil Dealers Association and independent gasoline station owners. The program: Acknowledges gasoline station owners who achieve compliance with applicable environmental regulations administered by the Department through designation as an "Environmental Leader" Compiles environmental regulations most commonly applicable to gasoline stations into simplified booklets for easy reference, and Encourages station owners to go "beyond compliance" whenever possible, allowing the owner to truly become a Maine Environmental Leader. The program is designed to help increase the station's customer base by attracting consumers who are likely to support a business that is committed to environmental excellence. HOW IT WORKS This guide summarizes the Department of Environmental Protection statutes and regulations most commonly applicable to gasoline stations, as of January 1997. It is intended as a reference guide, but not a substitute for a more in-depth review of the statutes and regulations cited. As a summary, it does not include all of the applicable legal requirements. Depending on your type of business, additional regulations and statutes may apply. Each section of this guide summarizes the major requirements of the statutes and regulations that apply to gasoline stations and provides a checklist for facility owners and operators to use to help ensure they are meeting these requirements. Also included are helpful suggestions that the facility owners and operators can use to reduce pollution and go "beyond compliance". WHAT TO DO REVIEW THIS GUIDE: This guide provides an easy reference to environmental regulations most commonly of concern to Maine gasoline stations. A separate reference guide is also available for automotive repair shops by calling DEP's Small Business Technical Assistance program at 1-800-789-9802 or 287-6188. The repair shop guide contains sections on degreasers, floor drains, waste oil, filters, antifreeze, rags, batteries, CFC refrigerants, and tires. APPLY: If you are interested in the Environmental Leader Program, complete the self-audit checklists that pertain to your operation. If you comply with all applicable regulations, complete the application form below and submit it to the Department. Note: All problems must be corrected whether or not you decide to participate in this voluntary program because (a) it's the law and (b) your compliance helps keep Maine's environment clean. This guide contains DEP phone numbers for you to call if you need assistance. SITE VISIT: The Department will then contact you to arrange a visit to your facility to verify your findings and provide you with assistance in correcting any problems discovered. Please consult the Enforcement/Compliance Section on the last page of this guide for further details. WHAT YOU GET When you achieve compliance, you will be awarded a package of promotional materials designed to help you expand your customer base, including: An Environmental Leader sticker that you can display for your customers. Facility owners who install Stage II Vapor Recovery will also receive a promotional banner; A sample press release package, including the Environmental Leader logo, that you can submit to your local newspaper or use in advertisements to promote your accomplishment and commitment to environmental excellence; Informational brochures you can distribute to your customers explaining the significance of your award; and An invitation to attend, and be recognized at, the Governor's Annual Environmental Excellence Award Ceremony. If you wish to participate in the Environmental Leader program, please complete and mail the application form to: Small Business Technical Assistance Program, Office of Innovation and Assistance, Maine Department of Environmental Protection, 17 State House Station, Augusta , ME 04333-0017. If you have any questions call 1-800-789-9802 or 287-6188 . . End of first two pages of text from the "Maine Gasoline Stations Model Facility Guide" Hope this helps. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: Terry Albrecht[SMTP:Terry_Albrecht@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 1997 1:40 PM To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' Subject: p2 recognition programs P2 Assessment Providers, Many of you may be familiar with industrial pollution prevention assessment programs that utilize volunteer (retired) engineers and scientists. I have been integrally involved with such a program called the Waste Reduction and Technology Transfer (WRATT) Program which serves businesses and industries in western North Carolina. Our WRATT management team is considering establishing a recognition/certificate program for industries we visit that are already outstanding in their waste reduction efforts. As many assessors know, some industries are looking for a "pat on the back" when they invite programs in to perform p2 multi-media assessments. In such instances our WRATT assessors struggle with providing recommendations and the effectiveness of the assessment report. At the state level, North Carolina already has a "Governor's Award in Waste Reduction" that we encourage companies to apply, but I was considering initiating a more direct recognition that could be given to an industry by the WRATT assessment team. Has anyone implemented this kind of direct recognition program, established recognition/benchmarking criteria, or is willing to share their experiences with this type of program? Terry Albrecht, PE NC Division of Pollution Prevention and Environmental Assistance (WRATT Management Team Member) (704) 232-5080 From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 12:59:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA25811 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "Stephens Jr., Edward A." , "'P2tech listserve distribution'" Cc: "Badger, Phillip C." , "Rollins, Martha L." , "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." , "Jarrett, Marvin N." Subject: RE: wood-fired boiler Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:20:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List of contacts for wood fired boiler expertise. >---------- >From: Stephens Jr., Edward A. >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 11:10 AM >To: Hillenbrand, Steve J. >Subject: RE: wood-fired boiler > >Steve: > >Five suggestions: > SouthEastern Regional Biomass Energy Program (SERBEP). Call Phil Badger >with TVA in Muscle Shoals (205-386-3086). Phil is a TVA > employee in charge of the DOE's SERBEP. He will have a list of >consultants. > Martha Rollins, TVA Technology Advancements (423-751-4712). Martha is in >charge of Technology Advancements biomass program. She should > have a list of consultants. > FBT Engineering Services, (423) 877-0871. Ask for Jim Bass, John >Castleman, or Bob Vincent. FBT has done allot of boiler > upgrade design work, and has biomass experience. I believe FBT is >currently doing work for Bowater. > International Applied Engineering (IAE), (404) 955-8284. Ask for Gary >Elliott. Gary is a biomass conversion and alternate fuels > specialist. > Southern Engineering and Equipment Company, (205) 674-5626. Ask for Neal >Turner. Neal's company has allot of experience in > small wood-fired boilers. > >Ed Stephens >Technology Advancements >7474-C > >---------- >From: Hillenbrand, Steve J. >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 7:38 AM >To: Stephens Jr., Edward A. >Cc: Charles McEntyre; Joseph Phillips; Marvin Jarrett >Subject: FW: wood-fired boiler > >FYI > >---------- >From: Hillenbrand, Steve J. >Sent: Monday, July 07, 1997 7:29 AM >To: Shipp, John W. Jr. >Cc: Charles McEntyre; Joseph Phillips; Marvin Jarrett >Subject: FW: wood-fired boiler > >A long shot, but do you have any projects involving wood fired boilers? > >---------- >From: Richard Yoder, P.E.[SMTP:nbdc-nics@navix.net] >Sent: Thursday, July 03, 1997 12:15 PM >To: P2Tech >Subject: wood-fired boiler > >P2-techers: > >I know this a bit off of the normal focus, but I hope that casting this >net wide will turn up some references to existing expertise.. > >I have a client who would like some names of researchers or consultants >experienced in improving bio-fuel boiler efficiency. Specifically, the >firebox on his wood-fired fire tube boiler is just that - a rectangular >box - built with mass reduction as a greater priority than optimal heat >transfer. > >His short-term objective is to send a request for proposal (RFP) asking >for research or engineering services to improve the construction of his >two units. The potential long-term goal is to commercialize the >technology for installation elsewhere. > >I wonder if you know of institutions or firms that have done work in this >area already? > >Thank you for your help in advance. And enjoy the holiday weekend. > >ry >-- > > >****************************************************************** >Richard Yoder, PE Nebraska Industrial >NICS-NBDC Competetivenss Service >1101 Cornhusker Hwy. Ste. 302 800-MEP-4MFG >Lincoln, Nebraska 68521 > Nebraska Business >phone 402/472-1183 Development Center >fax 402/472-3363 402-595-2381 >email ryoder@unomaha.edu >****************************************************************** > > > > From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 13:35:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA09526 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 18:11:26 +0000 From: NEIL KOLWEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: U.S. Compliance and Cleanup Costs -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Check out "Jobs, Competitiveness, and Environmental Regulation: What are the real issues?" by Robert Repetto, World Resources Institute (800) 822-0504. There is one table showing pollution control expenditures as a percentage of output value for various major industrial sectors, for example. From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 14:12:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA29875 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970708162107.009a1fa8@popmail.ucsd.edu> X-Sender: masiegel@popmail.ucsd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 09:21:07 -0700 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Marc H. Siegel" Subject: Beyond MACT with P2 Cc: dcorcora@arb.ca.gov Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Please send your replies directly to Dennis at: dcorcora@arb.ca.gov I am looking for examples of situations where P2 has been used to go beyond MACT (Maximun Achievable Control Technology) per US Clean Air Act or other related information such as inclusion of P2 in MACT rule development. Thanks. Dennis Corcoran California Air Resources Board (916) 324-8622 dcorcora@arb.ca.gov From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 15:34:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA18642 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:10:51 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 08 Jul 1997 15:16:22 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 08 Jul 1997 15:16:22 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0514B33C292062C7-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0514B33C292062C7 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Brian.W.Kavanah@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0514B33C292062C7*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Kavanah/g=Brian/i=W/"@MHS> Date: 08 Jul 1997 15:16:22 -0400 From: "Kavanah, Brian W" To: "dcorcora@arb.ca.gov" (Return requested) cc: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested) Subject: RE: Beyond MACT with P2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You wrote: I am looking for examples of situations where P2 has been used to go beyond MACT (Maximun Achievable Control Technology) per US Clean Air Act or other related information such as inclusion of P2 in MACT rule development. Thanks. Dennis Corcoran California Air Resources Board (916) 324-8622 dcorcora@arb.ca.gov Good examples can be found at facilities that are (or were) subject to the clorinated solvent MACT due to thier vapor or cold cleaning degreasers and have replaced these systems with aqueous systems, changed work practices, or took other steps that exempted them from the MACT. I'll send you a short case study of a Maine company that has done that. Brian Kavanah Maine DEP Station 17 Augusta, ME 04333 207 287-6188 brian.w.kavanah@state.me.us ---------- From: Marc H. Siegel[SMTP:Marc_Siegel@ucsd.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 2:38 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: dcorcora@arb.ca.gov Subject: Beyond MACT with P2 Please send your replies directly to Dennis at: dcorcora@arb.ca.gov I am looking for examples of situations where P2 has been used to go beyond MACT (Maximun Achievable Control Technology) per US Clean Air Act or other related information such as inclusion of P2 in MACT rule development. Thanks. Dennis Corcoran California Air Resources Board (916) 324-8622 dcorcora@arb.ca.gov From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 16:35:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA22875 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 16:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 15:20:52 CDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu (Jan Hygnstrom) Subject: Plateless xerography Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Can anyone help me on this? I now have a more specific question, to follow up my request for general information on plateless xerography, or electronic or electrostatic printing a few weeks ago. A methylene chloride cleaner is used on the press to remove ink and other chemicals. Are there any ideas for a possible substitute? I've spoke with Dillon Mooney of GATF in Pittsgburgh (thanks to whoever directed him my way) already for a few clues. He indicated a mild diluted roller wash, but to be careful that the press isn't damaged. Has anyone had experience with this? Thanks Amie Myers Jan Hygnstrom, Extension Assistant University of Nebraska-Lincoln (402) 472-9614 From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 17:35:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA24773 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 16:40:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 8-Jul-1997 16:43:23 -0400; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <634EC24301501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Re: U.S. Compliance and Cleanup From: sobin@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Sobin, Rodney) Date: 08 Jul 97 16:49:48 EDT In-Reply-To: <894BC24301501C76@-SMF-> References: <894BC24302501C76@-SMF-> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The US Dept of Commerce (DOC) publishes (or at least used to publish) data on environmental expenditures: 1) The "Survey of Current Business" is a monthly journal of DOC's Bureau of Economic Analysis. Typically one issue each year has an article or two on pollution abatement and control expenditures. Several years ago Gary Rutledge authored these--I don't know if he's still there. 2) The Census Bureau performs (or used to perform) an annual survey called "Pollution Abatement Costs and Expenditures MA200." Eleanor Champion at Census is either involved in this or should know how to obtain the most recent copy. MA200 segregates costs by media, by capital vs. O&M expenditure, and by industry (4-digit SIC). I don't know if the Census Bureau or BEA web pages have relevant info on these publications. You might also try EPA's Office of Policy Planning and Evaluation (OPPE). They have a web page listing reports. Carl Pasurka is an economist there who might be able to help. If you really get into this topic you should be aware that there are differences in how Commerce and EPA estimate environmental costs. There are also some methodological issues that may lead to both under reporting and over reporting of costs. We looked at some of this quite extensively at the (now defunct) Office of Technology Assessment a few years back. If interested see U.S. Congress, Office of Technology Assessment, "Industry, Technology, and the Environment: Competitive Challenges and Business Opportunities" (January 1994)--full text available on http://www.wws.princeton.edu/~ota/ and at mirror sites at the National Academy of Sciences and Govt Printing Office. Sorry that I don't have phone numbers of contacts handy but I hope this is helpful. Rod Sobin sobin@ctc.com 814-269-6895 Concurrent Technologies Corp. From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 8 19:35:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA03122 for p2tech-out; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 08:43:44 +0930 From: Eddie Wilczek Subject: Re: On P2 for fisheries and horticultural canning/preserving X-Sender: wilczee@ephp.dep.sa.gov.au To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <2.2.16.19970709084416.43ef9b1e@ephp.dep.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear Froilan, You may be interested in a Cleaner Production project funded under our State's Cleaner Industries Demonstration Scheme which saved the Seafood processing company 50% of its water consumption. This case study can be found at the Australian Government's Environment website at: http://www.erin.gov.au/portfolio/epg/environet/ncpd/auscase_studies/raptis.html Regards, At 09:06 AM 8/07/97 -0400, you wrote: >Dear people, > >I have been asked to prepare teaching and training materials >on P2 for the two main food industries in my area: fish procesing >(filleting, canning and fishmeal, mainly) and also for horticultural >products canning and preserving. > >I wonder if the fellow members of this list could let me know about previously >published materials on these subjects, and also on sources or repositories >of information. > >Any ponter to resources or suggestions will be certainly of help. > >Best regards > >Froilan > > >********************************************************************** >Jorge Froilan Gonzalez, Ph.D. froilan@patora.fi.mdp.edu.ar >Chemical Engineering Department >Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata TE: (+54) (23) 81 66 00 >Juan B. Justo 4302 >7600 Mar del Plata FAX: (+54) (23) 81 00 46 >ARGENTINA > >Alternate e-mail: froilan@satlink.com >********************************************************************** > > > > > > Eddie Wilczek Project Officer, Cleaner Production Environment Protection Authority Level 7, 77 Grenfell Street Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA 5000 Post) GPO Box 2607 Adelaide SOUTH AUSTRALIA 5001 Ph) +61 8 8204 2027 Fax) +61 8 8204 2025 Email) wilczee@dep.sa.gov.au From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 09:35:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA09812 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707091305.JAA09812@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: C2P2 Subject: Re: On P2 for fisheries and horticultural canning/preserving Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Froilan The Fraser River Action Plan, Environment Canada has put out 2 reports that may be of interest. 1. Guide for Best Management Practices for Process Water Management at Fish Processing Plants in British Columbia 2. Guide for the Development of Pollution Prevention Plans for Fish Processing Operations in the Lower Fraser Valley. Contact Francis Smart, Environment Canada, phone 604-664-9198 or visit the Internet site at http://www.pwc.bc.doe.ca/ec/frap/fr-pollu.html (I believe you can order the publications on-line through this site) Also the Pacific Northwest Pollution Prevention Center (PPRC) has a document "Pollution Prevention Opportunities in the Fish Processing Industry". Contact PPRC at 206-223-1151, fax 206-223-1165 or email: office@pprc.org Hope this helps. Deb Foster Canadian Centre for Pollution Prevention (C2P2) email: c2p2@sarnia.com http://c2p2.sarnia.com At 09:06 AM 7/8/97 -0400, you wrote: >Dear people, > >I have been asked to prepare teaching and training materials >on P2 for the two main food industries in my area: fish procesing >(filleting, canning and fishmeal, mainly) and also for horticultural >products canning and preserving. > >I wonder if the fellow members of this list could let me know about previously >published materials on these subjects, and also on sources or repositories >of information. > >Any ponter to resources or suggestions will be certainly of help. > >Best regards > >Froilan > > >********************************************************************** >Jorge Froilan Gonzalez, Ph.D. froilan@patora.fi.mdp.edu.ar >Chemical Engineering Department >Universidad Nacional de Mar del Plata TE: (+54) (23) 81 66 00 >Juan B. Justo 4302 >7600 Mar del Plata FAX: (+54) (23) 81 00 46 >ARGENTINA > >Alternate e-mail: froilan@satlink.com >********************************************************************** > > > > > Canadian Centre for Pollution Prevention (C2P2) 265 North Front Street, Suite 112 Sarnia, ON N7T 7X1 519-337-3423 fax: 519-337-3486 email: c2p2@sarnia.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 10:35:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA08397 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970709084454.006d27a4@mail.sep.bnl.gov> X-Sender: goode@mail.sep.bnl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 08:44:54 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: George Goode Subject: Public/Private Partnership Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 09:05:45 -0400 >To: linda.countryman@moea.state.mn.us >From: George Goode >Subject: Public/Private Partnership >Cc: Judy Jacobsen > >Linda, >I saw the request on P2Tech posted by Lisa Morrison. I've been participating in a public/private partnership that is sponsored by an EPA grant. The project is called "Students and Industries for Pollution Prevention". The lead person on the project is Judy Jakobsen at the Suffolk County Water Authority, Oakdale, NY. > >We formed the Long Island Pollution Prevention Partnership, with members being; >Suffolk County Water Authority >Brookhaven National Laboratory >Stony Brook University >New York Institute of Technology >Polytechnic University >University of Rhode Island Pollution Prevention Center >New York State Dept of Environmental Conservation > >Each university selects several students in their environmental or chemical programs and offers participation in the project. The students come to BNL, where we present a week long intensive training program on pollution prevention methods, techniques, regulatory issues etc. We use industrial-like operations at BNL as guinea pigs to take the students out on tours/assessments, we then go back to the classroom and draw process diagrams, attempt material balances, and brainstorm ideas. > >Once the students complete the training, they are assigned a private small business to conduct a free/confidential P2 assessment. Judy at SCWA networks with trade associations etc. to get a list of small businesses interested in participating. The students (in teams of 2 or 3) meet with the business owners and conduct a P2 assessment of the business, writing up the results in a formal report. An oral presentation to the business is also included. > >The students receive credit for the effort and are paid (out of the grant funds) for time spent doing the assessment. > >We've done three groups of students thus far and the program has been quite successful. Contact Judy at SCWA for more details (516-563-0306). > >Hope this helps...George ******************************** George Goode Brookhaven National Laboratory Bldg 860 Upton, NY 11973-5000 Phone: 516-344-4549 Fax: 516-344-7334 email: goode@mail.sep.bnl.gov Check out the BNL Pollution Prevention Information Source http://sun10.sep.bnl.gov/~goode/p2.htm From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 12:35:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA27181 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:43:00 -0500 From: To: X-Opn-Also-To: (Hani Sharaya) , (Rosemary W. Cantwell) , (Thomas Neltner) X-Mailer: OPN:Office Subject: Charles Sullivan, IDEM/OPPTA Message-Id: <97Jul9.113244est.8109@mailgate.isd.state.in.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Charles Sullivan, IDEM/OPPTA asks: We have a new proposal for a soybean processing facility. They propose to use solvent in the soybean oil extraction. The hexane content of the solvent is 62% and the non-hexane components which comprise the re- mainder of the solvent are not hazardous air pollutants. We are looking for a case study or example for the facility to eliminate or reduce the amount of hexane that they will use in the extraction process. You may respond directly to Hani Sharaya, Indana Dept of Environmental Management, Office of Pollution Prevention and Technical Assistance by phone at 317- 233-6662, or through the Net. Thanks for any suggestions you offer. From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 14:35:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA05260 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970709183714.0068dca8@ccsinc.com> X-Sender: fmartin@ccsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 14:37:14 -0400 To: p2tech@cedar.cic.net From: Francis Martin Subject: Free Environmental Glossary CD Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net FYI, I thought y'all might find this forwarded note of interest. Please excuse any cross-postings. 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Please mention this offer. > >Founded in 1992, SOLUTIONS Software Corp. is a women-owned small business corporation (CAGE Code 032G2). > >Anne Wemhoff >SOLUTIONS Software Corporation >1795 Turtle Hill Road >Enterprise, FL 32725 >Telephone: (407) 321-7912 >Fax: (407) 321-3098 >E-Mail: solution@env-sol.com >Web: http://www.env-sol.com > > From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 18:35:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA17434 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707092138.RAA17434@cedar.cic.net> From: "Glenn Stephens (717) 772-8926" Subject: Reduced Inspections via P2? To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Can anyone provide details and examples as to how a company's P2 effort has resulted in reduced inspections? thanks. From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 19:35:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA17615 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707092139.RAA17615@cedar.cic.net> From: "Glenn Stephens (717) 772-8926" Subject: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Can anyone provide concrete examples and details as to how a company's P2 effort may have resulted in a lower cost of capital? Thanks! From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 19:49:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA17496 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707092138.RAA17496@cedar.cic.net> From: "Glenn Stephens (717) 772-8926" Subject: Reduced Health & Insurance Costs via P2 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Can anyone provide concrete examples and details as to how a company's P2 effort resulted in reduced health or insurance costs? Thanks! From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 20:26:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA17364 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707092137.RAA17364@cedar.cic.net> From: "EADC Lab" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Recycling PVC shavings Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Our Industrial Assessment Center at the Univ. of Fla is looking at ways for a PVC pipe manufacturer to capture and reuse the PVC shavings that come from sawing the pipes into sections. Does anyone know of some kind of dust or particle collection system that would recover the PVC shavings for reuse? Thanks. Teri Littlefield From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 9 20:31:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA17305 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707092136.RAA17305@cedar.cic.net> From: "Phelps, Max R" Subject: Soybean Oil Extraction To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Re: Your query regarding the elimination of Hexane to extract Soybean Oil. I'm a Senior Development Engineer with Battelle Northwest (Pacific Northwest National Laboratory) in Richland, WA. I've been working in the solvent substitution arena for the last 5-years addressing problems similar to the one you're facing. There are examples of carbon dioxide (CO2) extraction of food oils, but they are primarily based on substituting from methylene chloride. One example: HAAS in Yakima Washington extracts Hop oil with CO2 using four 800-gallon systems running in parallel. The process is cost effective, uses no hazardous solvents. Hop oil is one of the primary ingredients of Beers and Ales. CO2 is non-flammable, non-hazardous, readily available, and relatively inexpensive. Matter of fact it is the second most abundant and second least expensive solvent on the planet (water being the first). Use of CO2 for industrial process does not contribute to the net global warming problem. No one is making CO2 for these processes, the gas is being collected from scrub gases from other industrial processes. The technology has advanced to the point where most of the gas/liquid is recycled and reused anyway. I can be reached by: Max Phelps Phone: 509 375-6678 FAX 2-4909 E-mail at max.phelps@pnl.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 07:35:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA26982 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." , "Jarrett, Marvin N." , "Mantooth, Jim G." , "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." Cc: "Scheffler, Peter K." , "Williams, Ronald J." Subject: RE: Recycling PVC shavings Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:39:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Consider source reducing. Try a technology that does not create the chips. When you recycle, you are losing the value of the material that you removed. It is small per production unit, but it adds up (and saw blades do not have to be replaced too). If the operation is sizable, a waterjet, hot wire, or laser might work (heat may require a hood). Anyone think of other source reduction options? Call if you want details. >---------- >From: EADC Lab[SMTP:EADC@ise.ufl.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 5:37 PM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Recycling PVC shavings > >Our Industrial Assessment Center at the Univ. of Fla is looking at >ways for a PVC pipe manufacturer to capture and reuse the PVC >shavings that come from sawing the pipes into sections. > >Does anyone know of some kind of dust or particle collection system >that would recover the PVC shavings for reuse? > >Thanks. > >Teri Littlefield > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 08:35:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA27691 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:48:46 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:43:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Reduced Inspections Via P2 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:48:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D132ZWXSB5A0Z X400-Mts-Identifier: [;64847001707991/777072@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: R. Illig The quantity of hazardous waste generated, on a monthly basis, determines the "generator status" of a facility. In federal regs, there are three levels: below 220 pounds per month (100kg), between 220 lbs and 2200 lbs(100kg to 1000kg), and above 2200 lbs(1000kg). These are referred to, respectively, as: conditionally exempt small quantity, small quantity, and large quantity generators. Depending on the state, state regulations generally reflect similar levels of waste generation. In Pa., there used to be only two levels...above and below 2200lbs...which has been recently amended to reflect the federal standards. Again, depending on the state, similar levels may occur for NON-HAZARDOUS waste generation...either municipal or residual (municipal may include the categories of infectious, chemotheraputic, sewage sludge, construction/demolition, and others)(residual may include waste oils, tires, asbestos, low level PCB, water filtration sludges, and others). P2, and even compliance assistance, allows a waste generator to hopefully move to a lower level in the regulatory spectrum. As a simple example, a facility may be a large quantity generator by generating 1000 gallons of hazardous waste water monthly. If the 1000 gallons can be reduced to 100 gallons monthly, the facility has moved from a LQG status to a SQG status. Most states and the federal government (relative to hazardous waste) are only capable of conducting a fixed number of inspections on a yearly basis. PRIORITIES generally dictate that the larger generators and/or those with permits for the treatment, storage (long term), and disposal (referred to as TSD's) of waste get inspected more routinely. As a general rule, TSD's get inspected at least once yearly, large quantity generators at least once every two years, and small quantity generators much less frequently. In the above example, the facility would renotify (EPA and the state) of their new generator status, may have it verified by the next routine inspection, and thereafter see inspectors much less frequently (in theory). STOP HERE AS I RAMBLE ON In many cases, SQG's inspections result from an inspector "exploring" facilities suspected as being a LQG, from complaint investigations, from other investigations (as an example, a TSD's that may manage, or mismanage, waste from SQG's), a SQG may error on manifests or store waste too long or in too great a quantity as to draw notice from an inspector, or every so often EPA tells the states that they should inspect all notifiers that have never been inspected. There are even cases where EPA insists inspections be conducted (yearly) at sites that have not existed for many years (I've inspected a field on at least one occasion). From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 09:35:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA02527 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33C4E337.176B@actt.engr.uark.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:27:19 -0500 From: kpeetz@actt.engr.uark.edu (Kent Peetz) Organization: Arkansas Center for Technology Transfer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Recycling PVC shavings References: <199707092137.RAA17364@cedar.cic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net EADC Lab wrote: > > Our Industrial Assessment Center at the Univ. of Fla is looking at > ways for a PVC pipe manufacturer to capture and reuse the PVC > shavings that come from sawing the pipes into sections. > > Does anyone know of some kind of dust or particle collection system > that would recover the PVC shavings for reuse? > > Thanks. > > Teri Littlefield You may want to look into multiclones. A multiclone contains several smaller cyclones placed in a housing and run in series. -- Kent Peetz Environmental Engineer Arkansas Center for Technology Transfer 700 W. 20th Fayetteville, AR 72701 Phone (501) 575-6180 Fax (501) 575-6615 kpeetz@actt.engr.uark.edu From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 10:35:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA01603 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707101301.JAA01603@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Peter Pembleton Subject: Sources of Information on Cleaner Production Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello everybody! We have now completed the first version of our pages on sources of CP information & have made them accessible directly from the UNIDO home page: http://www.unido.org/ Just look under 'activities' for 'Cleaner Production Information' with the 'new' flag. The following items are currently available from the next 'page': Cleaner production programmes; Cleaner production sectoral reviews; Cleaner production technologies; Cleaner production topics - hot links to sources of information; Energy and Environment Series; Energy topics; Environmental Awareness Bulletin; Information Sources on Cleaner Production - Learning Unit 8. Please note that the latter item is an on-line version of the 1994 printed unit of UNIDO's ESID self-learning kit. Also of note is the 'Cleaner Production Technologies' page, which provides access to the following groups of information: Cleaner production by industry; Cleaner production by processes; Technology registration form. The industrial sector & process information will have some major additions in the future -- especially in relation to the 'sectoral reviews' previously mentioned. Other additions are in store by the end of the year. Good browsing! -- Peter Pembleton, Information and Networking for Technology, Investment & Business (INTIB) UNIDO, P.O. Box 300, A-1400 Vienna, Austria Tel: 21131/3705; Fax: 21131/6843; e-mail: ppembleton@unido.org From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 11:35:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA11222 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:16:14 -0400 (EDT) From: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:25:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199707101525.LAA07474@buffalo1.localnet.com> X-Sender: toa_m2p2@localnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: HHW Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone know of a list serve that deals with Household Hazardous Waste? I was looking for someone who might know of different methods used to bulk paint at a household hazardous waste collection day site. Thank you in advance. Jennifer Guida Town of Amherst Engineering Department Phone: (716) 691-4331 Environmental Control Division Fax: (716) 691-7608 455 Tonawanda Creek Road email: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Amherst, NY 14228 From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 12:35:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA13030 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:50:54 -0400 From: Warren Weinstein Subject: Speakers sought for Canadian Conference To: P2 Tech List serve Message-ID: <199707101151_MC2-1A97-28FC@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Environment Canada is looking for 1 or 2 people interested in speaking on= a P2 Initiative at the annual Aquatic Toxicity Workshoip to be held in Niagara Falls, Ontario October 19-22, 1997. This is the first year that a P2 session will be part of the ATW. They a= re looking for dynamic speakers on the topic of P2, water quality and the potential impacts on aquatic environments. = For more information contact Ken Tuininga at 416/739-5895 or by email at = Ken.tuininga@ec.gc.ca From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 13:35:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA15091 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707101619.MAA05790@cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:19:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 05:39 PM 7/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >Can anyone provide concrete examples and details as to how a company's P2 >effort >may have resulted in a lower cost of capital? Thanks! > WRT your earlier question: Good P2 resulted in taking a generator from fully regulated status (over 1000 kg/mo) to conditionally exempt small quantity generator status (less than 100 kg/mo). FRGs are typically targeted for inspection once per year (but rarely accomplished!). CESQGs are never targeted for hazardous waste inspections unless there is a complaint or some reason to believe that there is some fraudulent activity involving hazardous waste. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 13:59:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA13950 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:06:20 -0700 From: "Isao Kobashi" Subject: Re: Reduced Health & Insuran To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net RE>Reduced Health & Insurance Costs via P2 7/10/97 We recently completed a study of the potential for using reductions in insurance premiums as an inducement for P2. Our research found that there is some opportunity to encourage P2 by offering incentive in insurance products and services. For example, trade associations can work with insurers to develop P2 protocols which grant eligibility or premium reductions for companies which comply with the protocol. We found that pollution insurnce is a niche market and few companies have coverage for pollution events. As a general rule, large firms tend to be self-insured and small firms tend to not buy insurance. You will probably find more opportunities for premium reduction by source reducing or eliminating flamable materials in a shop. The state of Washington has an Underground Storage Tanks that links premiums prices with P2 and compliance. Michigan State's "Farm*A*Syst" has an insurance program for local farmers. Farmers can receive up to a 20% reduction in insurance premiums if the participate in a local groundwater stewardship program. Contact me at the number below for a copy of our report: Isao Kobashi (P) 408 441-1195 (F) 408 441-0365 (E) isao_kobashi@qmgate.pln.co.santa-clara.ca.us -------------------------------------- Date: 7/9/97 5:37 PM To: Isao Kobashi From: p2tech@great-lakes.net Can anyone provide concrete examples and details as to how a company's P2 effort resulted in reduced health or insurance costs? Thanks! ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by qmgate.pln.co.santa-clara.ca.us with SMTP;9 Jul 1997 17:36:19 -0700 Received: from scc-gateway.CO.Santa-Clara.CA.US by dns-cvc.CO.Santa-Clara.CA.US (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09489; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:33:23 +0800 Received: by scc-gateway.CO.Santa-Clara.CA.US; id RAA02912; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedar.cic.net(192.131.22.3) by inet-gateway.co.santa-clara.ca.us via smap (V3.1.1) id xma002887; Wed, 9 Jul 97 17:34:45 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA17496 for p2tech-out; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707092138.RAA17496@cedar.cic.net> From: "Glenn Stephens (717) 772-8926" Subject: Reduced Health & Insurance Costs via P2 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net content-length: 139 From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 14:35:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA21286 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:42:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "VIC YOUNG" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:50:55 EST Subject: Re: HHW X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <37464C37691@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There is a list of listservers maintained by TileNet at http://www.tile.net/tile/listserv/index.html I'm sure that you can find a group to your liking at that site Vic Young ========================================= From: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:25:32 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: HHW Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone know of a list serve that deals with Household Hazardous Waste? I was looking for someone who might know of different methods used to bulk paint at a household hazardous waste collection day site. Thank you in advance. Jennifer Guida Town of Amherst Engineering Department Phone: (716) 691-4331 Environmental Control Division Fax: (716) 691-7608 455 Tonawanda Creek Road email: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Amherst, NY 14228 Vic Young, Waste Reduction Resource Center PO Box 29569, Raleiigh, NC 27626-9569 (800)476-8686 Fax (919)715-6794 vic_young@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us http://www.owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 14:53:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA18252 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:56:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeroen IJgosse" Organization: ALTERNATIVA To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:49:05 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: HHW X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Message-ID: <233B70A26@alter.org.pe> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Jennifer, If you get any response to your request, I would be interested. If you would please forward a copy to me. Thank you kind regards Jeroen IJgosse From: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:25:32 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: HHW Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone know of a list serve that deals with Household Hazardous Waste? I was looking for someone who might know of different methods used to bulk paint at a household hazardous waste collection day site. Thank you in advance. Jennifer Guida Town of Amherst Engineering Department Phone: (716) 691-4331 Environmental Control Division Fax: (716) 691-7608 455 Tonawanda Creek Road email: toa_m2p2@localnet.com Amherst, NY 14228 ------------------------------------------------- Jeroen IJgosse Advisor Solid Waste Management and Urban Planning Department of Urban Planning (DDU) ALTERNATIVA Jr. Emeterio Perez 348 Urbanizacion Ingeniera Lima 31, PERU tel: 51-1-4815801/4811585 fax: 51-1-4816826 e-mail: jeroen@alter.org.pe ------------------------------------------------- From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 16:35:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA01510 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:13:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dina Li" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:23:26 EST Subject: (Fwd) Call For Papers - EPA Region 4 P2 Conference X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: <5F4EE1A4B@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello P2TECHERS! I'm forwarding a message regarding a call for papers for an EPA Region 4 P2 conference. Please respond to the POC listed below. Thanks! ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- ** CALL FOR PAPERS ** For the EPA Region 4 Pollution Prevention/Green Manufacturing Conference for Industry and Business November 17-19, 1997 Marriott Marquis Hotel Each presentation should be about 20 minutes in length and should describe methods, technologies, procedures, etc. that have been used to reduce, minimize or eliminate the generation of solid or hazardous wastes, wastewaters, or air emissions. Presentations may focus on one particular waste stream or manufacturing process or may focus on a "plant-wide" pollution prevention program. Presentations may also cover other areas related to pollution prevention, waste minimization and green manufacturing that would be of interest to conference attendees. Presenters are urged to use slides or overheads to visually illustrate key points about their talks or their facility. Name of Presenter: Title of Presenter: Address of Presenter: Telephone of Presenter: Company Affiliation: Title of Paper being Proposed: Please attach a brief (1/4 to 1 page) abstract of your proposed paper. Return to: Charlotte DenBrok A.T. Kearney 1100 Abernathy Road, Suite 900 Atlanta, GA 30328 Please direct any inquiries to Doug McCurry/US EPA, (404) 562-8649 Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 10 22:35:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id WAA21418 for p2tech-out; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707110229.WAA21413@cedar.cic.net> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Soybean Oil Extraction Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:29:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi all, just a few points: CO2 extraction is a very good process if you are dealing with a high value added product. I would guess that hop oil demands top dollar and therefore it is "cost effective" to employ an expensive process. I would also guess that hexane or another solvent might taint the odor and taste of the hop oil, rendering it worthless. That is why someone can afford to use CO2. The issue of odor and taste does not appear to be a problem for soybean oil extraction. Therefore, what is the problem with using hexane ? A well designed extraction process should be capable of containing and recovering most of the solvent used. If you are experiencing large losses, fix the problem. After extracting the oil, is the hexane bearing waste being used as a source of on-site fuel ? Hexane has a very good heating value and is much cleaner to burn than diesel fuel. If you switch solvents, this waste may not be usable as a fuel source and you would be increasing overall waste generation. The benefits of switching solvents can only be determined by looking at the full life cycle of each process. Regards, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com ---------- From: Phelps, Max R To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' Subject: Soybean Oil Extraction Date: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 2:36PM Re: Your query regarding the elimination of Hexane to extract Soybean Oil. I'm a Senior Development Engineer with Battelle Northwest (Pacific Northwest National Laboratory) in Richland, WA. I've been working in the solvent substitution arena for the last 5-years addressing problems similar to the one you're facing. There are examples of carbon dioxide (CO2) extraction of food oils, but they are primarily based on substituting from methylene chloride. One example: HAAS in Yakima Washington extracts Hop oil with CO2 using four 800-gallon systems running in parallel. The process is cost effective, uses no hazardous solvents. Hop oil is one of the primary ingredients of Beers and Ales. CO2 is non-flammable, non-hazardous, readily available, and relatively inexpensive. Matter of fact it is the second most abundant and second least expensive solvent on the planet (water being the first). Use of CO2 for industrial process does not contribute to the net global warming problem. No one is making CO2 for these processes, the gas is being collected from scrub gases from other industrial processes. The technology has advanced to the point where most of the gas/liquid is recycled and reused anyway. I can be reached by: Max Phelps Phone: 509 375-6678 FAX 2-4909 E-mail at max.phelps@pnl.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 11 08:35:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA16054 for p2tech-out; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:53:16 -0400 From: Lin Krause To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Reduced Health & Insurance Costs via P2 -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I have heard of insurance companies decreasing rates for an area that was formerly characterized as flammable or explosive (i.e. switching from a solvent to an aqueous process). It likely varies from state to state and between insurance companies. lin.krause@epa.state.oh.us 614-644-2811 From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 11 11:35:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA26914 for p2tech-out; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707111443.KAA26914@cedar.cic.net> From: Pam Walkenbach 217-524-9170 Subject: RE: HHW To: p2tech Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Jennifer, I don't have a list serve but a contact name at Illinois EPA. Contact Kathi Davis at (217) 782-9187 or e-mail EPA4277@epa.state.il.us. They have a successful HHW program with collections held at various sites throughout the summer. They also have a successful paint recycling program. Good Luck, Pam Walkenbach Extension Specialist University of Illinois Cooperative Extension Service walkenbachp@idea.ag.uiuc.edu From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 11 12:35:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA26691 for p2tech-out; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707111440.KAA26691@cedar.cic.net> From: "CAMP: D'Agostino, Lisa A." To: P2 Tech Subject: Recycling of Acid Mixtures Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anyone know of a recycling/reclamantion process/equipment which can be used on a mixture of: 2% hydrofluoric acid 25% nitric acid Balance Water and possibly some hydrochloric acid or sulfuric acid? I was at a facility that uses this mixture in their plating line and generates 5000 gallons/week as waste. They would like to recycle/reuse the acids. Thanks in advance, Lisa D'Agostino CAMP, Inc/GLMTC 4600 Prospect Ave Cleveland, OH 44103 216-432-5190 216-361-2900 (fax) lisa.dagostino@camp.org From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 11 13:12:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA26699 for p2tech-out; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:40:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Francke, Dale H." To: P2Tech Post/Reply Subject: FW: Recycling PVC shavings Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 08:34:00 edt Message-Id: <33C4F6D0@pwwpgw3.pwfl.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At home you can use a handheld "pipe cutter" that works like a guillotine cutter. This may be available for industrial work (larger, automated, fixed not handheld, etc). If so there is little or no loss of material from the cutting. There is little or no "shavings" around the cut which have to be removed either. Saves both waste generation and a production step. Hope this helps. ---------- From: Hillenbrand, Steve J. To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' Cc: McEntyre, Charles L.; Phillips, Joseph W.; Jarrett, Marvin N.; Mantooth, Jim G.; Loney, Jon M.; Brown, Lynn R.; Scheffler, Peter K.; Williams, Ronald J. Subject: RE: Recycling PVC shavings Date: Thursday, July 10, 1997 7:39AM Consider source reducing. Try a technology that does not create the chips. When you recycle, you are losing the value of the material that you removed. It is small per production unit, but it adds up (and saw blades do not have to be replaced too). If the operation is sizable, a waterjet, hot wire, or laser might work (heat may require a hood). Anyone think of other source reduction options? Call if you want details. >---------- >From: EADC Lab[SMTP:EADC@ise.ufl.edu] >Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 5:37 PM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Recycling PVC shavings > >Our Industrial Assessment Center at the Univ. of Fla is looking at >ways for a PVC pipe manufacturer to capture and reuse the PVC >shavings that come from sawing the pipes into sections. > >Does anyone know of some kind of dust or particle collection system >that would recover the PVC shavings for reuse? > >Thanks. > >Teri Littlefield > > From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 11 13:35:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA01203 for p2tech-out; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:46:16 -0400 From: NANCY HELM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Computer Recycling Web Site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The EPA Region 10 home page has a newly created site on recycling computers and electronic equipment. http://www.epa.gov/r10earth/offices/owcm/pcrecycl.htm It provides practical, basic information on how and where computers and electronics can be recycled; what rules apply to recycling and disposal; and links to related sites. The information is somewhat specific to the NW, but is relevant for other locations. Check it out -- I'd like to get comments from P2Tech. Thanks! Nancy Helm EPA Region 10 Seattle, WA helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 11 14:35:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA09025 for p2tech-out; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:39:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:46:51 -0400 From: Kevin McDonald Subject: Recycling of Acid Mixtures To: "INTERNET:p2tech@great-lakes.net" Message-ID: <199707111347_MC2-1AB2-7396@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Contact: Viatec Recovery Systems, Inc. 1902 Airport Way Richland, WA 99352 From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 11 15:35:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA15397 for p2tech-out; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:05:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Ihab H Farag To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: (Fwd) Call For Papers - EPA Region 4 P2 Conference In-Reply-To: <5F4EE1A4B@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hello Please indicate the city and state where the hotel is located (where the conference will be held). Thanks. Ihab Farag From p2tech-owner Sun Jul 13 19:25:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA26764 for p2tech-out; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707132151.QAA16528@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:30:58 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Landspreading Toxics With Fertilizers X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The following message implies that it will be possible to track down companies which are allowed to landspread their wastes disguised as fertilizers. This tracking may be impossible, and from the standpoint of the company this may be one of the primary benefits of the practice. They can't be held liable once toxics are so dispersed that it's impossible to find "clean" sites for comparison and determining cause and effect through epidemiology. The overall 'background levels" of toxics will simply rise. In addition, once the wastes are bagged, NOT IDENTIFIED, and sold to a variety of unsuspecting customers who will know where they went. How many of us SAVE our old empty bags which once carred fertilizers or pesticides? Here in Green Bay, Wisconsin, we have a prime example. It's a company called Granulation Technologies, Inc. and it takes contaminated wastewater treatment plant sludges from Fort Howard Corporation (a large paper recycler). It pellitizes and dries the sludge, then sells it to chemical companies to be the bulky carrier for pesticides and fertilizers. When a bag of pesticides says "98% inert ingredients" it could be 98% Fort Howard sludge --- but it doesn't have to be labelled that way, so consumers may never know. Fort Howard sludges are contaminated with 3 to 5 ppm PCBs, dioxins, furans, heavy metals, a wide variety of solvents, chlorinated organics, surfactants, and other toxics. The deinking process in paper recycling can involve many chemicals, and the waste paper brings in many contaminants, including chlorine bleaching residue (dioxins), inks, dyes, pigments, plastics, and miscellaneous coatings. The Fox River, which flows into Green Bay and Lake Michigan, was just nominated for Superfund status by the EPA, primarily because of the toxic river sediments created by 7 paper recycling companies, including Fort Howard Corporation, which used to just dump its wastes (including sludge) in the river before it built its wastewater treatment plant. The Fort Howard Sludge Lagoons, where half of the company's sludge still goes (GranTech can handle only half of Fort Howard's load) was also nominated for Superfund status a few years ago, but the company escaped listing by installing a clay cutoff wall around half of it's unlined lagoons, and a big pump to suck up all the contaminated groundwater so it could be treated. This is the SAME SLUDGE which is now allowed for landspreading. The EPA pesticides and fertilizer rule says that if the sludge isn't the "active ingredient" designed for a certain purpose, then it's defined as "inert." This is not the dictionary definition we are all familiar with. Most consumers assume "inert" means "inert," but EPA allows all kinds of toxic contaminants to be present without any labelling requirement. The pellets are also allowed to be used as the carrier base for livestock pharmeceuticals. (So our meat, poultry and dairy products can be contaminated too.) Our local environmental group tried a legal challenge of GranTech's air pollution permit 4 years ago, which we felt was our strongest legal hook. (Too many loopholes in the other rules.) Unfortunately, we were underfunded and badly outgunned. We won minor improvements, but the company is still operating and still sells its contaminated product for landspreading. It's truly outrageous, but nobody seems to care. (Three other local landspreading concerns: 95% of municipal wastewater treatment plant sludges in Wisconsin are landspread, but only a handful of chemical contaminants are tested for or limited by standards. This material is not just human waste. Our county Harbor Commission proposes to bag and sell Fox River channel dredgings as fertilizers, because they aren't CONCENTRATED enough to qualify as "hazardous waste." But the sediments are still highly contaminated with PCBs, furans, dioxins, mercury and a host of other industrial chemicals --- which is why the river was just nominated for Superfund. Serious political pressure may force our state resource agency to grant permits. Our state gave a grant to hire an engineer housed at UW-Extension to find more "beneficial uses' for bulky industrial wastes such as foundry sands and papermill sludges. We know that landspreading will be one of the options.) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:07:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Glenn Stephens (717) 772-8926" Subject: Environmental History--an incident To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net As I work to make my "environmental history" file available to you, an article appearing in the Lancaster, PA "Intelligencer Journal" at Page A-1 on Monday, July 7, 1997, may be of interest. It is entitled "Toxic chemicals often spread on fields with fertilizers." I intend to use this as a follow-up slide entitled "Is COMPLIANCE or RISK the PROPER BUSINESS FOCUS?" This article describes what I feel is the very basis for environmental accounting (and/or sound environmental management policies): 1. the use of components in a product or process that have a potential environmental impact eventually leads to an incident 2. which leads to liability and the adverse impact of future costs (note: first driven by the market) 3. which leads to an eventual legislative or regulatory tightening which nudges the future cost effect higher (note: in response to the public) Question: Do companies who look at what really drives their costs and effectively deal with this up front have a profitability (and/or competitive) advantage? Becky Katers 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 08:36:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA02703 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707141158.HAA04194@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: tgreiner@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: tgreiner@tiac.net (Tim Greiner) Subject: Re: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Peter: Have you heard of wood pressure treated with ammonia copper sulfate? The wood brand name is AQC. The product is sold in lumber stores -- for example at Timberline Enterprises, Inc. in Gloucester, MA. I used the wood as an alternative to the chromated copper arsenate pressure treated product for my deck. Tim >Dear P2Tech, > Anybody out there know of substitutes for pentachlorophenol when it >comes to utility poles? > I am particularly interested in the names of utilities that have >switched from pentachlorophenol to creosote (and vice-versa) or have >switched from pentachlorophenol to chromated copper arsenate (the stuff >that gives the green tinge to pressure treated lumber used for decks, >etc.) (and vice-versa). > Also I would like to talk to any companies you know of that were >THINKING of switching, but decided not to. > > Information on any other alternatives, like fiberglass impregnation >of rotten wood on docks (which I have heard of, but know very little >about), would be appreciated also. > > Thanks, >Peter T. Moulton >Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation >State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection >State House Station #17 >Augusta, ME 04333 >tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 >Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us >case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Timothy J. Greiner Greiner Environmental 2 Emily Lane Gloucester, MA 01930 tel: 508-525-2214 fax: 508-525-2247 tgreiner@tiac.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 10:36:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA10230 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:02:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707141402.KAA10230@cedar.cic.net> From: "Peter Crawford" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Recycling of Acid Mixtures Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There are a number of possible recyling/ acid recovery technology options to explore for this acid mixture. 1. Membrane Electrolosis- this has the best potential for significant waste reduction for some metal/acid applications. Vendors: Ionsep Corp, Box 258, Rockland DE 19732 (302-798-7402); E G & G Environmental, Inc.- address on web: enviro-source.com/vendinfo 2. Diffusion/ Electro- Dialysis- combined with vacumum distillation will leave you with deionized water and concentrated acid. Vendors: Pure Cycle Envir. Technologies, 20 Wilbraham st. Plamer, MA 01069 (413-283-8938); Crown Acid Recovery Systems, Inc., Box 15127 Lenexa KS 66215 (913-541-8246) 3. Waste Acid Detoxification and Recovery (WADR) - this high end combination technology claims an acid recovery rate of up to 90%, more for metals contaminated acids. Vendor: Viatech Recovery Systems, 2000 Logston Blvd., Richland, WA 99352 (509-474-9888) There are probably others I don't know about, but check out the vendor info. on above and see if any will work for you (some are not real cheap!) Peter Crawford Vermont Small Business Development Center Environmental Assistance for Business,Program Director PO Box 422 Randolph, VT 05060 802-728-1423 e: pcrawfor@vtc.vsc.edu From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 11:36:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA09866 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707141356.JAA09866@cedar.cic.net> From: "Phelps, Max R" Subject: Soybean oil extraction To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Just another note regarding food oil extraction; hexane vs CO2. I have no vested interest in CO2 or any other solvent based process. I work for a not-for-profit organization, and am only interested in promoting CO2 based technologies because I believe them to be environmentally safe and "green". I read with considerable interest the remarks made by Mike Callahan. He is correct in assuming that Hop Oil is a high value product and therefore the economics for using CO2 extraction make sense; however, he is incorrect in assuming that CO2 extraction processes are expensive. That's only true from the initial investment perspective. The initial capital investment is high because of the pressure equipment involved, but the cost of operation once the plant is built is very low. In addition the reporting requirements are negligible or non-existent, there are no hazardous chemical inventories to monitor (hexane is extremely flammable, causes fatigue/dizziness), no worker or health concerns (unless you're going to be working with CO2 in a pit or something), and no chance that your process is going to banned 5 to 10 years from now because of some provision in the Clean Air Act. The real question is what is the Return on Investment for using CO2 over Hexane. I'm one of the first to admit that the economic drivers just aren't there for a lot of food oil extractions, but then, I didn't see a lot of reason to move away from methylene chloride or ethyl acetate a few years ago either. By the way, caffeine is being extracted with CO2 by every coffee company in the world except for Starbucks (methylene chloride still). Decaf coffee isn't all that high value a product over regular coffee. Max From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 12:36:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA13773 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:49:13 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 14 Jul 1997 10:54:57 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 14 Jul 1997 10:54:57 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0206233CA3DC140A-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0206233CA3DC140A Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0206233CA3DC140A*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 14 Jul 1997 10:54:57 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: "linda_jekel_at_chppm3__apgea@c" (Return requested), P2Tech (Return requested) Subject: RE: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Linda, >Is burying the cable possible? I had assumed that burying the cable would be far too expensive. But I guess if the phone companies can do it, why can't the electric companies? I will have to ask. >How far can you go with plastic lumber? I have no idea, I will have to ask that also? Thanks for the ideas, keep them coming. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: linda_jekel_at_chppm3__apgea@c[SMTP:linda_jekel_at_chppm3__apgea@chppm-cc mail.apgea.army.mil] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 1997 6:01 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative How far can you go with plastic lumber? Is burying the cable possible? Linda Jekel ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at Internet-Mail Date: 7/3/97 10:18 AM Dear P2Tech, Anybody out there know of substitutes for pentachlorophenol when it comes to utility poles? Information on any other alternatives, like fiberglass impregnation of rotten wood on docks (which I have heard of, but know very little about), would be appreciated also. Thanks, Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 12:51:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA13385 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:43:58 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 14 Jul 1997 10:49:53 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 14 Jul 1997 10:49:53 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0206233CA3C913F5-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0206233CA3C913F5 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0206233CA3C913F5*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 14 Jul 1997 10:49:53 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: Bob Fletcher (Return requested), P2Tech (Return requested) Subject: RE: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Bob Fletcher, Thanks for company name. I just got the phone # for Osmose, (901) 357-1703, and it works. I am working on getting information from them. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: Bob Fletcher[SMTP:romaland@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 1997 2:17 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative Moulton, Peter T wrote: > > Dear P2Tech, > Anybody out there know of substitutes for pentachlorophenol when it > comes to utility poles? > I am particularly interested in the names of utilities that have > switched from pentachlorophenol to creosote (and vice-versa) or have > switched from pentachlorophenol to chromated copper arsenate (the stuff > that gives the green tinge to pressure treated lumber used for decks, > etc.) (and vice-versa). > Also I would like to talk to any companies you know of that were > THINKING of switching, but decided not to. > > Information on any other alternatives, like fiberglass impregnation > of rotten wood on docks (which I have heard of, but know very little > about), would be appreciated also. > > Thanks, > Peter T. Moulton > Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation > State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection > State House Station #17 > Augusta, ME 04333 > tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 > Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us > case (upper or lower) does not matter on email addressThere is a company in Millington, TN that manufactures wood preservative, they also work with utility companies to determine if poles are serviceable and make inspections. Company name is Osmose, sorry but I don't have a phone number. They may give you some additional insight. Good Luck, Bob Fletcher, CET, CHMM FROM YOUR FOLLOW-UP MESSAGE Peter, I failed to tell you that Osmose is located in Millington, TN. I know they do survey work with utility companies on the serviceability of utility poles and they actually manufacture the wood treatment chemicals at the Millington Facility. Millington is located north of Memphis, TN should be area code 901. Hope this helps, Bob Fletcher, CET,CHMM Bob, I called information and got the number 901 357-1703. I verified that it works. Thanks a lot. From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 13:36:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA15657 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:15:03 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 14 Jul 1997 11:20:07 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 14 Jul 1997 11:20:07 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0206233CA43A7477-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0206233CA43A7477 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0206233CA43A7477*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 14 Jul 1997 11:20:07 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: "(Tim Greiner)" (Return requested), P2Tech (Return requested) Subject: RE: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Have you heard of wood pressure treated with ammonia copper sulfate? >The wood brand name is AQC. The only thing I know about it is that it is mentioned on the American Wood Preservers Institute's home page at http://www.awpi.org This home page contains about 11 pages worth of text geiving general information about treated wood. They mention Chromated Copper Arsenate (CCA) Ammoniacal Copper Quat (ACQ) - Is this the same as ammonia copper sulfate? Ammoniacal Copper Zinc Arsenate (ACZA) as water borne preservatives. I guess I will have to try to get some more information on ACQ. Thanks for the information. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: (Tim Greiner)[SMTP:tgreiner@tiac.net] Sent: Monday, July 14, 1997 8:58 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Alternatives for Pentachlorphenol Wood Preservative Peter: Have you heard of wood pressure treated with ammonia copper sulfate? The wood brand name is AQC. The product is sold in lumber stores -- for example at Timberline Enterprises, Inc. in Gloucester, MA. I used the wood as an alternative to the chromated copper arsenate pressure treated product for my deck. Tim >Dear P2Tech, > Anybody out there know of substitutes for pentachlorophenol when it >comes to utility poles? > I am particularly interested in the names of utilities that have >switched from pentachlorophenol to creosote (and vice-versa) or have >switched from pentachlorophenol to chromated copper arsenate (the stuff >that gives the green tinge to pressure treated lumber used for decks, >etc.) (and vice-versa). > Also I would like to talk to any companies you know of that were >THINKING of switching, but decided not to. > > Information on any other alternatives, like fiberglass impregnation >of rotten wood on docks (which I have heard of, but know very little >about), would be appreciated also. > > Thanks, >Peter T. Moulton >Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation >State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection >State House Station #17 >Augusta, ME 04333 >tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 >Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us >case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Timothy J. Greiner Greiner Environmental 2 Emily Lane Gloucester, MA 01930 tel: 508-525-2214 fax: 508-525-2247 tgreiner@tiac.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 14:36:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA00211 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707141830.OAA00211@cedar.cic.net> From: "Glenn Stephens (717) 772-8926" Subject: Get History of the Environment To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I apologize for the delay in responding to your needs for copies of my PowerPoint 4.0 slides on the "History of the Environment." You may now obtain these under the "files" directory of my personal website at: http://pages.prodigy.net/gstephens Please send me an e-mail to confirm your receipt so I can take you off my list. Also, if you still need them and are unable to obtain them via this mechanism, please reply e-mail to me here (even if you did before), so that I do not neglect your needs. Also, since this is a "first-stab" effort, I look forward to all of us joining together to improve this as a "living" list. I volunteer to update these for the group and periodically re-offer them per updated information. Thank you all for your help and for your tremendous interest! From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 16:36:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA10097 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.16.19970714162346.7067a1f2@pop.mv.net> X-Sender: deswmdpl-pe@pop.mv.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (16) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Vincent Perelli Subject: rust-proofing operation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi folks, While I think I know the answer to the following question (which was posed to me by a hazardous waste inspector), I just wanted to run it by those of you that may be knowledgable about autobody operations. One of our Hazardous Waste Inspectors recently inspected an autobody shop that was "recycling" their waste solvents, still bottoms, and waste paint by adding it to his rust-proofing material which is then applied to car undercarriages. I cannot verify if all of these wastes are mixed in with the rust-proofing material. While I might be able to buy the beneficial reuse argument for the reuse of solvent (to thin the rust-proofer for application purposes), I am having a hard time with the other wastes. Again, this activity probably represents illegal disposal of a waste or "sham" recycling, but I just wanted to check. Does anyone have any experience in this area? Is this common practice? I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance. Vince Perelli ***************************************************** Vincent R. Perelli New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Pollution Prevention Program 6 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301-6509 phone: 603 271-2902 fax: 603 271-2456 perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com A thought from E.F. Schumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style designed for permanence" ****************************************************** From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 14 19:36:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA17757 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:05:39 -0400 From: Kevin McDonald Subject: P2 Equipment/Service Trade Opportunity in Asia To: NPPR list server , P2REG , P2TECH Message-ID: <199707141805_MC2-1AD4-F9FF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Asia Announcement... Companies with expertise and capabilities in the pollution prevention/cleaner production sector are encourage to consider participating at two upcoming major events: Thailand's Pollution Control '97, and The First Asia Pacific Roundtable on Cleaner Production (APRCP). Pollution Control '97 will celebrate the fifth anniversary of the Thai Pollution Control Department. The conference will be a combination of research presentations, case studies, and product/service exhibitions. = Over 2,000 participants expected. The First Asia Pacific Roundtable on Cleaner Production is a focused 2 1/= 2 discussion-oriented event limited to 250-300 leaders in the pollution prevention/cleaner production field in Asia. The U.S. NPPR is actively involved in the planning of this significant regional event. Firms with pollution prevention expertise are asked to consider exhibitin= g at Pollution Control '97, and joining the discussions of APRCP. Visit Pollution Control '97s website for the latest conference and exhibition updates: . Also, pleas= e contact Kevin McDonald, International Coordinator at NPPR, at 202-466-727= 2 for more infromation. From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 00:36:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id XAA04906 for p2tech-out; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970714221312.006cc814@mail.frii.com> X-Sender: jdorsey@mail.frii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:18:25 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Judy A. Dorsey" Subject: Substitutes for Agricultural Protective Material Cc: Alismason@aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am helping a colleague to check around for a solution to the following problem: We are growing lettuce in Colorado under a protective material called Remay. This material is made of spun plastic and let's in light, moisture, and air while giving protection from wind, intense sun, hail, and maybe some bugs. The problem is, this material is pretty delicate and gets trashed in a hailstorm, or just from repeat use BUT we don't want to put it in the landfill each year. There is another material available that is sturdier and is rated for 10 year's use, but it is expensive ($0.55/foot). Ideally, we would like a material that is cheap (less than $0.05/foot, 4 feet wide), effective, and biodegradable so it could go into the compost. Any ideas? Thanks, Judy Dorsey (for Alison Mason) THE BRENDLE COMPANY Environmental Consulting in Pollution Prevention & Conservation ________________________ 2138 Sunstone Dr. Ft. Collins, CO 80525 phone: (970)207-0058 fax: (970)207-0059 email: jdorsey@frii.com From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 11:36:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA08090 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970715105902.0074cb88@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:59:02 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Re: Substitutes for Agricultural Protective Material In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970714221312.006cc814@mail.frii.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 10:18 PM 7/14/97 -0600, you wrote: >I am helping a colleague to check around for a solution to the following >problem: > >We are growing lettuce in Colorado under a protective material called Remay. >This material is made of spun plastic and let's in light, moisture, and air >while giving protection from wind, intense sun, hail, and maybe some bugs. >The problem is, this material is pretty delicate and gets trashed in a >hailstorm, or just from repeat use BUT we don't want to put it in the >landfill each year. There is another material available that is sturdier and >is rated for 10 year's use, but it is expensive ($0.55/foot). Ideally, we >would like a material that is cheap (less than $0.05/foot, 4 feet wide), >effective, and biodegradable so it could go into the compost. Any ideas? > >Thanks, >Judy Dorsey (for Alison Mason) > > > > > >THE BRENDLE COMPANY >Environmental Consulting in >Pollution Prevention & Conservation >________________________ >2138 Sunstone Dr. >Ft. Collins, CO 80525 >phone: (970)207-0058 >fax: (970)207-0059 >email: jdorsey@frii.com > > > Hi Judy and Alison, I have forwarded your request to Charlie Pace at the Center for Environmentally Appropriate Materials here at the University (tele 508-934-3199). I hope he has some ideas for you! Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 12:52:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA15394 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33CBA81B.32A2@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:40:59 -0500 From: Bob Fletcher Organization: Roma Land Florist & Gifts//Safety Training Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: rust-proofing operation References: <3.0.16.19970714162346.7067a1f2@pop.mv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vincent Perelli wrote: > > Hi folks, > > While I think I know the answer to the following question (which was posed > to me by a hazardous waste inspector), I just wanted to run it by those of > you that may be knowledgable about autobody operations. > > One of our Hazardous Waste Inspectors recently inspected an autobody shop > that was "recycling" their waste solvents, still bottoms, and waste paint > by adding it to his rust-proofing material which is then applied to car > undercarriages. I cannot verify if all of these wastes are mixed in with > the rust-proofing material. While I might be able to buy the beneficial > reuse argument for the reuse of solvent (to thin the rust-proofer for > application purposes), I am having a hard time with the other wastes. > > Again, this activity probably represents illegal disposal of a waste or > "sham" recycling, but I just wanted to check. Does anyone have any > experience in this area? Is this common practice? I'd appreciate any > feedback. > > Thanks in advance. > > Vince Perelli > > ***************************************************** > > Vincent R. Perelli > New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services > Pollution Prevention Program > 6 Hazen Drive > Concord, NH 03301-6509 > phone: 603 271-2902 > fax: 603 271-2456 > perelli@deswmdpl.mv.com > > A thought from E.F. Schumaker in 1973 - "We must begin to see > the possibility of evolving a new life style, with new methods > of production and new patterns of consumption; a life-style > designed for permanence" > > ****************************************************** There is a company that is advertising the fact that you can mix these type products with their product for undercoating and "reuse" the product. I can't find the brochure or info, this company is advertising in some of the popular trade magazines. If I find the name and phone number, I will forward it to you. Bob Fletcher, CET, CHMM From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 13:37:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA16280 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:39:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SVP2CPATF@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970715124553_-392432161@emout01.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Methanol as substitute for MTBE Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Greetings P2 Tech allies: I'm working with a AMP Proposal Writing Workshop at San Jose State University this month. One project the students are developing is how to determine if methanol is a positive P2 solution for replacing MTBE, considering the impact to all media. Is anyone out there aware of any such studies already completed? Please respond ASAP since this is only a four week exercise and we're alredy into the second week. Thanks in advance for your help. Patrick Ferraro, Executive Director The Silicon valley Pollution Prevention Center 351 Brookwood Drive San Jose, CA 95116-2742 Phone: 408 291-0131 Fax: 408 294-7362 From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 14:36:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA22065 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707151805.OAA22061@cedar.cic.net> Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 14:13:24 EDT From: "Marvin Fleischman, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Univers" Subject: Re: rust-proofing operation In-Reply-To: note of 07/15/97 13:09 To: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0lflei01@ulkyvm.louisvi lle.edu SUBJECT: PBR INdustries, 143 Cortland St, Lindenhurst, NY 11757, 516/226-2930, has a paint sludge rubberizer to make undercoat from still bottoms. From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 15:55:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA20770 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:26:38 -0500 From: Brian Noble To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Computer Recycling Web Site -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Nancy- You might want to add one more link to your site on computer recycling: http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/non-hw/recycle.htm#docs has anyone addressed the issue of older software versions? we donate our 286/386's, but the software is not always available. I have suggested that we transfer older versions (after upgrading) with the machines. Without this the pc's have limited value. WordPerfect had a school license program. I have requested assistance from Boreland, Corel, and MS. SInce they are in your "neck of the woods," do you have any connections? thanks for making it available. Brian Noble Workplace Recycling Project Specialist TNRCC, MC-114 P.O. Box 13087, Austin TX 78711-3087 512-239-6780 fax: 512-239-6763 >>> NANCY HELM 07/11/97 10:46am >>> The EPA Region 10 home page has a newly created site on recycling computers and electronic equipment. http://www.epa.gov/r10earth/offices/owcm/pcrecycl.htm It provides practical, basic information on how and where computers and electronics can be recycled; what rules apply to recycling and disposal; and links to related sites. The information is somewhat specific to the NW, but is relevant for other locations. Check it out -- I'd like to get comments from P2Tech. Thanks! Nancy Helm EPA Region 10 Seattle, WA helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 16:10:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA22199 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707151816.OAA19729@babar.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:16:22 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: rust-proofing operation Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Vincent Perelli wrote: > > Hi folks, > > While I think I know the answer to the following question (which was posed > to me by a hazardous waste inspector), I just wanted to run it by those of > you that may be knowledgable about autobody operations. > > One of our Hazardous Waste Inspectors recently inspected an autobody shop > that was "recycling" their waste solvents, still bottoms, and waste paint > by adding it to his rust-proofing material which is then applied to car > undercarriages. I cannot verify if all of these wastes are mixed in with > the rust-proofing material. While I might be able to buy the beneficial > reuse argument for the reuse of solvent (to thin the rust-proofer for > application purposes), I am having a hard time with the other wastes. > > Again, this activity probably represents illegal disposal of a waste or > "sham" recycling, but I just wanted to check. Does anyone have any > experience in this area? Is this common practice? I'd appreciate any > feedback. > > Thanks in advance. > > Vince Perelli > > ***************************************************** Depending on the paints and the solvents used therein, the use of paint sludge is possibly NOT hazardous waste disposal. For example, using non-lead, non-chromate paint sludge in this way is probably not hazardous waste disposal. (Comment: Regulators generally think that paints are worse than they really are! Sometimes, however, they are right!). If the solvent is really used as solvent to thin the material to make it applicable and would be OK if the solvent were new, then the reuse is not, per se, a contravention of the regulations. Finally, the reuse of the paint sludge is probably no worse for the environment than other undercoatings, if it sticks to the job and functions as it should. Similarly, reuse of the solvents, provided they are not chlorinated solvents, is probably no worse for the environment than other solvents an undercoater would use. My question is why undercoating is going on any more. I thought that the automakers were providing vehicles already undercoated these days. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 16:37:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA03404 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:36:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bonnie Pray To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: Reuse of Dewatered Ink Solids Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 16:44:00 PDT Message-ID: <33CC0F9B@mailserv.iams.org> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net We are working with a plastics printing company that has flexographic printing operations. They use all water-based inks. Press cleanups are conducted with a water/soap solution. The spent wash water is sent to a wastewater treatment system where it is coagulated using aluminum chloride solution. Lime solution is also added to the wastewater to adjust pH. The wastewater then goes through a plate and frame filter press where solids are removed. My assumption is that most of the solids consist of ink pigments. Currently, these solids are landfilled. Does anyone have suggestions to reduce or eliminate this waste stream? Can the ink pigments be recovered? FYI - we are already addressing their product scheduling practices to reduce the number of press changeovers, this should reduce the amount of wastewater to some extent. Thanks for any input. Bonnie L. Pray Engineer Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Sciences Cincinnati, OH (513) 948-2015 pray@iams.org From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 17:37:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA01758 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:11:50 -0400 (EDT) From: robert_michalowicz@bovar.com X-Authentication-Warning: scrooge.cadvision.com: inteuucp set sender to robert_michalowicz@bovar.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 14:27:37 Message-Id: <9706158690.AA869002057@bovar.bovar.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There are two case studies in the "Industrial Waste Audit and Reduction Manual", published by the Ontario Waste Management Corporation, which show how pollution prevention can lower the capital costs of wastewater treatment. The manual can be obtained free of charge from the Ontario Ministry of the Environment @ (416) 325-4000, FAX (416) 323-4564 Ontario Ministry of Environment Public Information Centre 135 St. Clair Ave. West Toronto, Ontario M4V 1P5 I have a couple of other projects which reduced or eliminated capital expenditures for wastewater treatment by first applying pollution prevention. If you are interested I can supply details. Rob Michalowicz BOVAR Environmental (416) 630-6331 robert_michalowicz@bovar.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at INTERNET Date: 7/9/97 6:29 PM Can anyone provide concrete examples and details as to how a company's P2 effort may have resulted in a lower cost of capital? Thanks! From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 18:36:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA04792 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 12:59:17 -0900 (PDT) From: Kevin Dick To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: rust-proofing operation X-Sender: dick@unr.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.16.19970714162346.7067a1f2@pop.mv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net As Marvin Fleischman noted products are specifically made to use still bottoms as an ingredient in formulating underbody coatings. While the determination as to whether this is legal or not will probably have to be made at the state level, under RCRA 40CFR 261.2(e)(1)(ii) materials are not solid wastes when they can be shown to be recycled by being used or reused as effective substitutes for commercial products. I'm not familiar with folks adding solvent or paints directly in these formulations I am familiar with this practice for handling still bottoms. This practice is allowed in Nevada, and I heard a Deputy District Attorney from California tell a crowd in a regulatory forum at the National Autobody Congress and Exposition (NACE) held in Las Vegas a number of years ago that he wasn't aware of any state in the country where this "resuse" wouldn't be allowed. Since the still bottoms are essentially paint residues from the paint being placed on the vehicle and solvent residues from the solvents used in the paints and cleaning I don't think that environmentally the coatings should be any worse than the ones manufactured for application. Given the recycling angle; they're probably better when you look at the entire product lifecycle. Kevin Dick Manager Business Environmental Program Nevada Small Business Development Center/032 University of Nevada, Reno Reno, NV 89557-0100 (702) 784-1717 FAX (702) 784-1395 dick@unr.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 18:37:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA03652 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:38:52 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 15 Jul 1997 16:44:46 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 15 Jul 1997 16:44:46 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0663133CBE13E2AA-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0663133CBE13E2AA Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Brian.W.Kavanah@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0663133CBE13E2AA*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Kavanah/g=Brian/i=W/"@MHS> Date: 15 Jul 1997 16:44:46 -0400 From: "Kavanah, Brian W" To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested) cc: "Rogers, Jim R" (Return requested), "Pierce, Sterling" (Return requested) Subject: glass etching MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I am working with a company that is having trouble meeting some categorical pretreatment standards for zinc. The company makes anode glass, or display glass, that is used for digital display screens in a variety of products such as laptops, gas pumps, cellular phones etc. The process starts with a piece of Energy glass (the same type used in high quality windows) which has a very thin tin oxide coating on it. The glass is cut to size and washed with water and detergent and dryed to remove dust. A pattern is silk screened on the glass with an acid resistant ink. The tin oxide coating is then etched off the glass with a mixture of hydrochloric acid (pH 2) and zinc. (The zinc has been described as a catalyst but the owner is unsure of the reaction that is taking place). The part is then placed in a water and potasium hydroxide bath to neutralize the pH and remove the ink. The glass is then rinsed again with water and detergent to prevent streaking. Has anyone worked with a similar process? Any ideas on alternative chemistry that does not contain zinc? Thanks. Brian Kavanah Maine DEP Station 17 Augusta, ME 04333 207 287 6188 207 287 2814 FAX brian.w.kavanah@state.me.us From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 15 22:37:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id WAA21617 for p2tech-out; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707160214.WAA26676@celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 22:14:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Reuse of Dewatered Ink Solids Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net At 04:44 PM 7/15/97 PDT, Bonnie L. Pray wrote: > >We are working with a plastics printing company that has flexographic >printing operations. They use all water-based inks. Press cleanups are >conducted with a water/soap solution. The spent wash water is sent to a >wastewater treatment system where it is coagulated using aluminum >chloride solution. Lime solution is also added to the wastewater to >adjust pH. The wastewater then goes through a plate and frame filter >press where solids are removed. My assumption is that most of the solids >consist of ink pigments. Currently, these solids are landfilled. >Does anyone have suggestions to reduce or eliminate this waste stream? > Can the ink pigments be recovered? FYI - we are already addressing >their product scheduling practices to reduce the number of press >changeovers, this should reduce the amount of wastewater to some extent. >Thanks for any input. > >Bonnie L. Pray >Engineer Bonnie, Unless things have changed very recently, flexographic inks are non-metallic and generally biodegradable by sewage treatment plants. My clients in other states were able in the late '80s to show that their wash waters were treatable by the municipal sewage treatment plant and found it much cheaper and more effective to send this material (soapy water with some color) to the sewer. Most of your solids are probably flocculants not ink solids! BTW in the early '80s, some companies, like Borden, made a great effort to get away from EP toxic constituents in flexographic type inks. You might check with Borden people in Cincinnati, where I think they make these inks, to see what they know about disposal of wash water. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 03:37:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id CAA05018 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 02:51:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard Dooley" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:36:03 EST Subject: Re: Methanol as substitute for MTBE X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-Id: <7E2DB06FBE@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net You wrote: Greetings P2 Tech allies: I'm working with a AMP Proposal Writing Workshop at San Jose State University this month. One project the students are developing is how to determine if methanol is a positive P2 solution for replacing MTBE, considering the impact to all media. Is anyone out there aware of any such studies already completed? Please respond ASAP since this is only a four week exercise and we're alredy into the second week. -------------- Patrick, I do not know of any methanol vs. MTBE P2 case studies, but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted a study on MTBE's effects on people in Alaska back in 1994 (?). Their study may provide some background information as you try to determine the pros and cons of switching from MTBE to methanol. (I do not have a point of contact for CDC - you may want to try their Center for Environmental Health @ (770) 488-7030 to locate the report). Best of luck. Rich Dooley __________________________ Richard Dooley Environmental Management Specialist 11251 Roger Bacon Dr.; M/S 4-3; Rm. #4009 SAIC - Pollution Prevention Division Reston, VA 20190 e-mail: rdooley@lan828.ehsg.saic.com Ph: 703-318-4608 Fax: 703-736-0826 From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 05:37:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id EAA09263 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 04:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33CD08FA.42F0@cipn.es> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:46:35 -0700 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Inicitiatives Organization: Centre d'Iniciatives per a la Produccio Neta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Oil recovery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Dear p2-techs, I ask again for your help. A food company which deep fries food is interested in recovering the oil from its wastewater to sell it to cosmetic companies. We have thought about ultrafiltration but we have been told it might be an expensive solution since the membranes will clog too easily. Does anyone have any experience with ultrafiltration or with any other suitable technology? What about electrocoagulation? Thank's. Esther Monfa Center for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4a 08006 Barcelona (Spain) e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es fax: +34 3 4144582 From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 08:37:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA18887 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:27:44 -0400 (EDT) From: robert_michalowicz@bovar.com X-Authentication-Warning: scrooge.cadvision.com: bovar set sender to robert_michalowicz@bovar.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Jul 97 06:46:42 Message-Id: <9706168690.AA869060802@bovar.bovar.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net There are two case studies in the "Industrial Waste Audit and Reduction Manual", published by the Ontario Waste Management Corporation, which show how pollution prevention can lower the capital costs of wastewater treatment. The manual can be obtained free of charge from the Ontario Ministry of the Environment @ (416) 325-4000, FAX (416) 323-4564 Ontario Ministry of Environment Public Information Centre 135 St. Clair Ave. West Toronto, Ontario M4V 1P5 I have a couple of other projects which reduced or eliminated capital expenditures for wastewater treatment by first applying pollution prevention. If you are interested I can supply details. Rob Michalowicz BOVAR Environmental (416) 630-6331 robert_michalowicz@bovar.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at INTERNET Date: 7/9/97 6:29 PM Can anyone provide concrete examples and details as to how a company's P2 effort may have resulted in a lower cost of capital? Thanks! From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 10:37:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA25551 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970716141843.0068ce70@pop.seanet.com> X-Sender: jbhsmith@pop.seanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 07:18:43 -0700 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Joseph B. H. Smith" Subject: Re: Re: Oil recovery Cc: prodneta@cipn.es Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net We have had over 20 years experience in oil recovery from the food industry. One example would be the recovery of fatty oils at a large Idaho Company that make french fries for a very large fast food hamburger chain. In one instance I remember we installed a system in one of their Oregon plants, the recovered product payed for the equipment in less than one month. Equipment cost at that time was about $12,000 US. If anyone is interested, please feel free to contact me directly by any of the means available in my SIG file below. Sincerely, Joseph B. H. Smith ----------------------------------------------- >Dear p2-techs, > >I ask again for your help. A food company which deep fries food is >interested in recovering the oil from its wastewater to sell it to >cosmetic companies. We have thought about ultrafiltration but we have >been told it might be an expensive solution since the membranes will >clog too easily. Does anyone have any experience with ultrafiltration or >with any other suitable technology? What about electrocoagulation? >Thank's. Esther Monfa, Center for Cleaner Production Initiatives >Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4a, 08006 Barcelona (Spain) >e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es, fax: +34 3 4144582 > ----------------------------------------------- Joseph B.H. Smith, Manager, Special Projects - Foss Environmental & Infrastructure Services Company (FEIS) P.O. Box 3535, Seattle WA 98104-3535 USA (206) 768-1461(DID); (206) 768-5561 (DIDFax) Email: jbhsmith@fossenv.com or FEIS's URL address: http://www.fossenv.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 12:37:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA01796 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov Message-Id: <199707161506.IAA01577@touchet.rl.gov> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Alternative to Acetone Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:06:47 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The DOE Hanford Site has recently purchased large shipping casks and the procedure calls for cleaning the threads of the bolts with acetone. These are brand new casks. Does anyone know of a good alternative to acetone for this purpose--we need something that will not leave a residue. I've tried SAGE and the Integrated Solvent Substitution Data System already. Thanks very much! Mary Betsch Waste Management Federal Services of Hanford, Inc. P.O. Box 700, H6-06 Richland, WA 99352 (509) 372-1627 (ph) (509) 373-0743 (fax) Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 13:37:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA06197 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Robert Gifford" Organization: Solid and Hazardous Waste Education Center To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:52:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Plateless xerography In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Message-ID: <14DA22C5F94@epd.engr.wisc.edu> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > A methylene chloride > cleaner is used on the press to remove ink and other chemicals. Are there > any ideas for a possible substitute? I've spoke with Dillon Mooney of GATF > in Pittsgburgh (thanks to whoever directed him my way) already for a few > clues. He indicated a mild diluted roller wash, but to be careful that the > press isn't damaged. Has anyone had experience with this? > > Thanks > Amie Myers > > Jan Hygnstrom, Extension Assistant > University of Nebraska-Lincoln > (402) 472-9614 > The following messages were posted to PRINTECH or PRINTREG, the email discussion lists for P2 and regulatory issues, respectively, in the printing industry. These lists are sponsored by the Printers' National Environmental Assistance Center, PNEAC. If you wish to subscribe to either list, send an email to Wayne Pferdehirt _________________________________________________ Date sent: 1 Jul 1997 12:55:26 -0500 From: "Jeff Adrian" Subject: Re: Methylene Chloride & printers To: printreg@great-lakes.net Send reply to: printreg@great-lakes.net 7/1/97 12:51 PM George: We have already eliminated the use of methylene chloride containing solvent. The reason methylene chloride was helpful in lithography is that it served as a cleaner for metering rolls on the water fountain side of the press, and it worked because it dried quickly, did not leave an oily film on the surface of the solution in the fountain, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, had sufficient "slip" so as to not grab the wiper being used. Our substitute is blended by Chemical Marketing Co. in Minneapolis. It is called "Blanket Wash 92" and contains Lacoline (64742-879-8), Ethanol 200 (64-17-5), and Solv PM (2807-30-9). It has a vapor pressure of 43mmHg, and a flash point of 45 F. You may contact them at 612-377-1971. We discovered this us by accident. Originally, this product was selected as a replacement for Type Cleaner (our restricted use, heavy-duty cleaner). I hope this gets you pointed in a useful direction. Regards, Jeff Adrian The John Roberts Company ___________________________________________________ From: GaryJGATF@aol.com Date sent: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:35:10 -0400 (EDT) To: printreg@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Methylene Chloride & printers Send reply to: printreg@great-lakes.net George: In response to the new Methylene Chloride Standard, I prepared an article for my Environmental Alert column which appeared in the May/June 1997 issue of GATFWORLD. This same column has been forwarded to the Hot News Section of the PNEAC home page. If you want a copy, please let me know. Becasue of the monitoring and employee training requirements involved with the standard and the potential helath effects associated with methylene chloride, I am advising members to work with their suppliers to eliminate the presence of it in their products. In lithographic printing, the most common use for methylene chloride is as a component in cleaning solutions and some press maintenace products. While methylene chloride only represents a small portion of the total product, it is an excellent solvent. To date, two replacements I have seen use either acetone or other flammable organic solvents, which poses a fire safety hazard. As with all choices in these areas, the trade-off (based on the two substitutes I have seen) for methylene chloride free cleaners means using those with low flashpoints. The printer will have to ensure they are taking the proper precautions with respect to storage and dispensing of these materials, but these issues should be more acceptable than the ones associated with methylene chloride. However, at least one of our members could not find an adequate substitute and decided to perform the monitoring and conduct the empolyee training. The monitoring showed exposure levels far below the new standard. Gary Jones GATF ***************************************************** Robert Gifford Univ. of Wisconsin - Extension Solid and Hazardous Waste Education Center 610 Langdon St., rm 531 Madison WI, 53703 Voice: 608-262-1083 Fax: 608-262-6250 email: gifford@epd.engr.wisc.edu ***************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 14:37:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA10570 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:48:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:56:51 EST Subject: Re: Alternative to Acetone X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <40481CD76FF@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Alternative to Acetone Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 08:06:47 -0700 Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Mary asks: The DOE Hanford Site has recently purchased large shipping casks and the procedure calls for cleaning the threads of the bolts with acetone. These are brand new casks. Does anyone know of a good alternative to acetone for this purpose--we need something that will not leave a residue. I've tried SAGE and the Integrated Solvent Substitution Data System already. Thanks very much! Mary Betsch Waste Management Federal Services of Hanford, Inc. P.O. Box 700, H6-06 Richland, WA 99352 (509) 372-1627 (ph) (509) 373-0743 (fax) Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov *************************************************************** Search Enviro$en$e on the Internet at http://es.inel.gov/ for acetone. A Fact Sheet entitled "New Cleaning Solvents for Industrial Cleaning" has answers to your question. If you have trouble getting there I can FAX the seven pages to you. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 16 15:37:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA11633 for p2tech-out; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 14:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707161802.OAA11625@cedar.cic.net> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov Cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Alternative to Acetone Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:05:00 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Mary, If the casks are new, why do the bolts need to be cleaned ? Are you buying them from another source ? Depending on quantity, off-site contract cleaning might be an option. Contract cleaning also has the advantage that you can get the bolts bagged and not have to worry about recontamination should you need to store them for a long time. If the bolts are ferrous, be sure to place a dessicant in the bag to prevent rusting. If you must clean on site, then aqueous with a DI rinse and hot air dry would be an option. Aqueous does quite well on light cutting oils and shop dust. It should also provide a much better level of cleaning since the purity of acetone varies quite a bit. Dirty acetone will also leave a slight oil film on the bolts. Your letter says you don't want any residue but sometimes an oil film is helpful. It prevents rusting due to moisture. If you need to provide the bolts with a slight oil film for rust protection, then I would look into the use of a semi-aqueous cleaner. Regards, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com ---------- From: Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Alternative to Acetone Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 8:06AM The DOE Hanford Site has recently purchased large shipping casks and the procedure calls for cleaning the threads of the bolts with acetone. These are brand new casks. Does anyone know of a good alternative to acetone for this purpose--we need something that will not leave a residue. I've tried SAGE and the Integrated Solvent Substitution Data System already. Thanks very much! Mary Betsch Waste Management Federal Services of Hanford, Inc. P.O. Box 700, H6-06 Richland, WA 99352 (509) 372-1627 (ph) (509) 373-0743 (fax) Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 17 04:37:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id DAA26284 for p2tech-out; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 03:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33CE4C17.24EC@cipn.es> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:45:11 -0700 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Inicitiatives Organization: Centre d'Iniciatives per a la Produccio Neta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Oil recovery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The information on yesterday's e-mail was not accurate enough. Sorry about that. We have finally found out that the food company boils really fat rich meat as a part of its process. This gives a very rich broth. The company is interested in recovering the grease from this broth to sell it to cosmetic companies. We have thought about ultrafiltration but we have been told it might be an expensive solution since the membranes will clog too easily. Does anyone have any experience with ultrafiltration or with any other suitable technology? What about electrocoagulation? Thank's. Esther Monfa Center for Cleaner Production Initiatives From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 17 11:37:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA19625 for p2tech-out; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:21:47 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:02:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Rustproofing Operations To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:21:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D146ZWXZG8DKK X400-Mts-Identifier: [;74121171707991/790776@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: R. Illig It was my impression that auto rust-proofing and undercoating was an outdated concept. I seem to remember reports of several years ago which claimed that drilling holes and spraying "rust-inhibiting" materials underneath and into auto cavities actually caused more harm than good. (Although I always thought undercoating would be very useful.) I believe these materials often resulted in the attraction or build-up of moisture, a condition which leads to rust and corrosion. The use of steel with better corrosion resistance, along with improved design, may have helped to minimize the need for application of inhibitors. The last time I asked about getting my car undercoated (which had to be at least 5 years ago), my Toyota dealer told me they would no longer perform the service and recommended I do not waste my time and money. The application of hazardous waste materials under the guise of "in-house recycling", outside of the waste generating process, may be stretching the intent of the regs a bit. Ric From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 17 14:37:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA02355 for p2tech-out; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:04:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "VIC YOUNG" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:13:27 EST Subject: Re: Rustproofing Operations X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <41CC9276B22@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net The newer automobiles are given coatings of anticorrosion materials after complete assembly and welding of the frame, fenders, etc structure using the E-coat(electrocoating). This is much superior to the "older" method of assemble, weld, and undercoat. The basic system is however cost and space intensive since the entire vehicle is immersed. Any repair, abnormal exposure to corrosive elements, and post factory application af anticorrosive films would definitely enhance the life expectancy of the metal structure(less Northern Vehicle Cancer). Obviously, adding a superficial film of material without proper preparation(conversion) of the base metal for proper adherence of the top coating would not be smart, but we would have to assume that those interested in improving the efficiency of their operations by using overspray, gun cleaning residue,etc would also know enough about metal preparation to stay in business. Vic Young ==================================== R. Illig wrote: It was my impression that auto rust-proofing and undercoating was an outdated concept. I seem to remember reports of several years ago which claimed that drilling holes and spraying "rust-inhibiting" materials underneath and into auto cavities actually caused more harm than good. (Although I always thought undercoating would be very useful.) I believe these materials often resulted in the attraction or build-up of moisture, a condition which leads to rust and corrosion. The use of steel with better corrosion resistance, along with improved design, may have helped to minimize the need for application of inhibitors. The last time I asked about getting my car undercoated (which had to be at least 5 years ago), my Toyota dealer told me they would no longer perform the service and recommended I do not waste my time and money. The application of hazardous waste materials under the guise of "in-house recycling", outside of the waste generating process, may be stretching the intent of the regs a bit. Ric Vic Young, Waste Reduction Resource Center PO Box 29569, Raleiigh, NC 27626-9569 (800)476-8686 Fax (919)715-6794 vic_young@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us http://www.owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 09:37:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA00501 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970718131250.0071d620@hela.iti.org> X-Sender: kjs@hela.iti.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:12:50 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ken Saulter Subject: Re: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Note cost of capital is not capital costs; it's the weighted average of debt and equity financing of capital investments. Is this what you wanted?At 02:27 PM 7/15/97, you wrote: > >There are two case studies in the "Industrial Waste Audit and Reduction Manual", >published by the Ontario Waste Management Corporation, >which show how pollution prevention can lower the capital costs of wastewater >treatment. > >The manual can be obtained free of charge from the Ontario Ministry of the >Environment @ (416) 325-4000, FAX (416) 323-4564 > >Ontario Ministry of Environment >Public Information Centre >135 St. Clair Ave. West >Toronto, Ontario >M4V 1P5 > >I have a couple of other projects which reduced or eliminated capital >expenditures for wastewater treatment by first applying pollution prevention. >If you are interested I can supply details. > >Rob Michalowicz >BOVAR Environmental >(416) 630-6331 >robert_michalowicz@bovar.com > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Lower Cost of Capital via P2 >Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at INTERNET >Date: 7/9/97 6:29 PM > > >Can anyone provide concrete examples and details as to how a company's P2 >effort >may have resulted in a lower cost of capital? Thanks! > > > Ken Saulter Industrial Technology Institute Energy & Environment Center 2901 Hubbard Road Ann Arbor, MI 48106-1485 (313)769-4234, Fax x4064, kjs@iti From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 10:37:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA06605 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707181436.KAA06595@cedar.cic.net> Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Fri, 18 Jul 97 10:44:27 EDT From: "Marvin Fleischman, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Univers" To: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0lflei01@ulkyvm.louisvi lle.edu SUBJECT: I am inquiring whether it would be worthwhile investigating chromium recovery from a filter press cake from treating a chromate conversion rinse water. The chromium (total) is 11000 ppm. Contacts for potential places to take the cake would be appreciated. Thanks. Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, University of Louisville From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 11:37:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA06742 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:38:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ronald_A_Del_Mar@rl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:47:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3cf82080@ccmail.rl.gov> Subject: Proactive Hazardous Material Management To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Does anybody know of examples of companies who have adopted proactive hazardous material management programs. By proactive, I mean programs that place more emphasis on avoiding the use of hazardous materials, where appropriate, than on merely controlling the hazards associated with use of such materials; programs that encourage source reduction and product substitution during every stage of the requisitioning process (e.g., during product specification, procurement, review/approval). What works and what doesn't work? I'd appreciate any input. Ron Del Mar Fluor Daniel Northwest P.O. Box 1050 Richland, WA 99252 (509) 376-1967 (509) 373-9519 (fx) ronald_a_del_mar@rl.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 12:37:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA08595 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:04:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:13:24 EST Subject: Re: Chromium Recovery from Filter press Cake X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <431C9490F43@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 18 Jul 97 10:44:27 EDT From: "Marvin Fleischman, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Univers" To: Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Marvin asks: ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0lflei01@ulkyvm.louisvi lle.edu SUBJECT: I am inquiring whether it would be worthwhile investigating chromium recovery from a filter press cake from treating a chromate conversion rinse water. The chromium (total) is 11000 ppm. Contacts for potential places to take the cake would be appreciated. Thanks. Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, University of Louisville ***************************************************** Marvin, Try Horsehead in Palmerton, PA @ 1-800-253-5579. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 13:37:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA12859 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:53:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Mary_D_Betsch@rl.gov Message-ID: <79890B590DB5D011B811080009DCD8551356EB@apmc30.rl.gov> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Proactive Hazardous Material Management Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 09:04:11 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Ron, B Plant has done an outstanding job with eliminating hazardous materials and has excellent controls in place. I just finished a thorough analysis of chemical tracking at Hanford. I can provide you with the write up from B Plant if you'd like. Let me know. I'd be very interested to see what you're doing in this area as well. Mary > ---------- > From: Ronald_A_Del_Mar@RL.gov[SMTP:Ronald_A_Del_Mar@RL.gov] > Sent: Friday, July 18, 1997 7:47 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Proactive Hazardous Material Management > > Does anybody know of examples of companies who have adopted > proactive > hazardous material management programs. By proactive, I mean > programs > that place more emphasis on avoiding the use of hazardous > materials, > where appropriate, than on merely controlling the hazards > associated > with use of such materials; programs that encourage source > reduction > and product substitution during every stage of the requisitioning > > process (e.g., during product specification, procurement, > review/approval). What works and what doesn't work? I'd > appreciate > any input. > > Ron Del Mar > Fluor Daniel Northwest > P.O. Box 1050 > Richland, WA 99252 > (509) 376-1967 > (509) 373-9519 (fx) > ronald_a_del_mar@rl.gov > From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 14:37:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA21581 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 13:50:09 -0400 (EDT) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <33CFAF08.7FE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:59:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Motor oil bottle bans in landfills? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Everyone! A contact at the TNRCC mentioned a conversation she had with a Canadian who said his province had banned used motor oil bottles from landfills. She is in the process of finding the name of the contact. In the meantime, I was wondering if anyone knew of this particular program or any others like it in the United States or Canada which ban or restrict the landfilling of almost empty motor oil bottles. I say "almost empty" because there is usually about an ounce of motor oil remaining in each motor oil bottle that is discarded. This residue makes the bottles undesirable for recyclers because of the messes in baling, transporting, chipping, and washing. The residue also leaks out of the container when landfilled, and we all know oil and groundwater don't mix. If you don't think an ounce of motor oil in each bottle is a problem, consider that there are over 3.43 BILLION motor oil bottles produced and sold in the U.S. each year. So, if you know of any programs out there, I would like to hear about them. I know of one in South Carolina, but that's about it. Someone has had to have looked at this problem before. Any ideas? Gerard Forgnone g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Plastic Oil Products 4869 S. Bradley Rd. Suite 18B-258 Santa Maria, CA 93455 805-937-3050 -- BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz G-Whiz Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 BOB product review: http://www.atving.com/editor/techtips/bob.htm BOB Testimonials: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277/testim.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 15:37:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA28391 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:24:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dina Li" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:35:12 EST Subject: Re: Motor oil bottle bans in landfills? In-Reply-To: <33CFAF08.7FE@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net I have an old 1993 edition of a publication from Raymond Communications (301) 345-4237 Riverdale, MD titled, "State Recycling Laws Update". The report includes a discussion of landfill bans. The company also published a report in 1993 which it may have updated, "Disposal Bans In America: Who's Banning What and Why". The reports are expensive, unfortunately (several hundred dollars each). One of the tips from the report is that landfill bans are more likely to be enacted at the local municipality or county level instead of the state level. Sorry this info is a little out of date, maybe someone else on this listserve can chime in with an update on the company's publications. Good Luck. Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 10:59:36 -0700 From: g-whiz@ix.NETCOM.com Subject: Motor oil bottle bans in landfills? To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi Everyone! A contact at the TNRCC mentioned a conversation she had with a Canadian who said his province had banned used motor oil bottles from landfills. She is in the process of finding the name of the contact. In the meantime, I was wondering if anyone knew of this particular program or any others like it in the United States or Canada which ban or restrict the landfilling of almost empty motor oil bottles. I say "almost empty" because there is usually about an ounce of motor oil remaining in each motor oil bottle that is discarded. This residue makes the bottles undesirable for recyclers because of the messes in baling, transporting, chipping, and washing. The residue also leaks out of the container when landfilled, and we all know oil and groundwater don't mix. If you don't think an ounce of motor oil in each bottle is a problem, consider that there are over 3.43 BILLION motor oil bottles produced and sold in the U.S. each year. So, if you know of any programs out there, I would like to hear about them. I know of one in South Carolina, but that's about it. Someone has had to have looked at this problem before. Any ideas? Gerard Forgnone g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Plastic Oil Products 4869 S. Bradley Rd. Suite 18B-258 Santa Maria, CA 93455 805-937-3050 -- BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz G-Whiz Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 BOB product review: http://www.atving.com/editor/techtips/bob.htm BOB Testimonials: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277/testim.htm Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 16:37:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA00176 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707181950.PAA00169@cedar.cic.net> Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Fri, 18 Jul 97 15:58:23 EDT From: "Marvin Fleischman, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Univers" To: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0lflei01@ulkyvm.louisvi lle.edu SUBJECT: I looking for ways to reuse an aqueous die spray lubricant used for cleaning and to act as a release agent on die faces used to make aluminum castings. During spraying of the die faces, hydraulic oil from leaks is picked by the lubricant. About 7000 gals/dy goes to an oil skimmer prior to the spray water going to the wastewater treatment plant. Will the detergent be removed with the oil being skimmed? I assume that much of the oil removed from the die faces will be dispersed in the the spray water. What can be done to break the emulsion so that the water with remaining detergent can be reused? Ultrafiltration would probably retain the detergent with the emulsified oil. Are there any particular vendors or equipment manufacturers that I might contact? Thanks, Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, University of Louisville. From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 17:20:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA26655 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:00:11 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 18 Jul 1997 15:05:40 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 18 Jul 1997 15:05:40 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0024933CFBE84625-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0024933CFBE84625 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0024933CFBE84625*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 18 Jul 1997 15:05:40 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: "Ronald_A_Del_Mar@rl.gov" (Return requested), P2Tech (Return requested) cc: "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: RE: Proactive Hazardous Material Management MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Ronald, This simple approach seems to work quite well for the companies that use it. Before any new product is purchased (or let in the door) it must be cleared by the Environmental, Health, and Safety (EHS) Office of the company. This means . . . 1. The EHS Office looks at the MSDS sheet BEFORE the product is purchased, so they can determine whether or not is toxic or hazardous. 2. SARA 313 chemicals are screened out, they are not allowed. 3. Other toxics or hazardous substances are screened out also. If a department really wants a given chemical or cleaner or product they have to convince EHS that it is needed. If EHS agrees, they say. "OK, but this is how you have to handle it, and this is the extra training you will be forced to take. Do you still want it?" etc. etc. 4. This type of program usually goes along with a program to eventually rid the company of any SARA 313 chemicals they are still using. 5. Before any free samples are accepted the vendor must agree to take back any unused portion of the product. 6. I am sure there are many more companies in our state doing this than I am aware of, but the companies I know about tend to be larger ones, companies that have a centralized inventory/supply/storage area complete with clerk checking things in and out of the supply room. I am sure you can find companies nearby that use this approach, but if you want to talk to anybody around here, then please give a call and we will scare some up for you. Hope this helps. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address ---------- From: Ronald_A_Del_Mar@rl.gov[SMTP:Ronald_A_Del_Mar@rl.gov] Sent: Friday, July 18, 1997 12:05 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Proactive Hazardous Material Management Does anybody know of examples of companies who have adopted proactive hazardous material management programs. By proactive, I mean programs that place more emphasis on avoiding the use of hazardous materials, where appropriate, than on merely controlling the hazards associated with use of such materials; programs that encourage source reduction and product substitution during every stage of the requisitioning process (e.g., during product specification, procurement, review/approval). What works and what doesn't work? I'd appreciate any input. Ron Del Mar Fluor Daniel Northwest P.O. Box 1050 Richland, WA 99252 (509) 376-1967 (509) 373-9519 (fx) ronald_a_del_mar@rl.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 18 17:37:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA29662 for p2tech-out; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D016FEA39@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Proactive Hazardous Material Management Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 15:51:33 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Ron, My company (a not-for-profit research organization) has set up waste min proceedures for acquisition of chemicals. Before anyone orders a chemical, they are supposed to check the chemical inventory database and arrange to use chemicals that are on site (often these chemicals will be in another lab or with a different research group). If chemcals must be ordered, we are to order in the smallest possible quantities. Chemists are encouraged to design their experiments to minimize the quantities of chemicals they use & substitute less toxic reagents. Our hazardous materials handbook gives some examples of waste min. that can be designed into experiements. We also classify and track hazardous materials through our purchasing office. The purchasing office crosschecks the CAS numbers on requisitions to see if they are regulated or if the fall into one of our internally-defined categories of chemicals (e.g., environmentally sensitive, difficult to dispose). As far as I know, the purchasing office does not deny requests to purchase chemicals that are on these lists, but the tracking proceedure allows the safety and health officer to ensure regulatory compliance. In addition, the purchaser of the material is considered the "custodian" of that material & is responsible for safe handling and treatment of the material. A caveat: no matter what kind of policies are in place, equal attention needs to go towards creating the organizational culture that ensures that all employees take the policies seriously & consider environmental protection part of their jobs. Regards, Melissa Malkin ................................................... Melissa Malkin Pollution Prevention Program Research Triangle Institute POB 12194. Research Triangle Park, N.C. 27709-2194 (ph) 919-541-6154 (fax) 919-541-7155 http://www.rti.org ....................................... > > ---------- > > From: Ronald_A_Del_Mar@RL.gov[SMTP:Ronald_A_Del_Mar@RL.gov] > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 1997 7:47 AM > > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > Subject: Proactive Hazardous Material Management > > > > Does anybody know of examples of companies who have adopted > > proactive > > hazardous material management programs. By proactive, I mean > > programs > > that place more emphasis on avoiding the use of hazardous > > materials, > > where appropriate, than on merely controlling the hazards > > associated > > with use of such materials; programs that encourage source > > reduction > > and product substitution during every stage of the > requisitioning > > > > process (e.g., during product specification, procurement, > > review/approval). What works and what doesn't work? I'd > > appreciate > > any input. > > > > Ron Del Mar > > Fluor Daniel Northwest > > P.O. Box 1050 > > Richland, WA 99252 > > (509) 376-1967 > > (509) 373-9519 (fx) > > ronald_a_del_mar@rl.gov > > > From remaus@great-lakes.net Sat Jul 19 17:53:13 1997 Received: from cedar.cic.net (cedar.cic.net [192.131.22.3]) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) with SMTP id RAA05089 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:53:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA19391 for p2tech-out; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707191442.KAA03118@arthur.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:42:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Proactive Hazardous Material Management Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ReSent-Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:53:06 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: Ron Emaus ReSent-To: pseudomo@great-lakes.net ReSent-Message-ID: At 07:47 AM 7/18/97 -0700, you wrote: > Does anybody know of examples of companies who have adopted proactive > hazardous material management programs. By proactive, I mean programs > that place more emphasis on avoiding the use of hazardous materials, > where appropriate, than on merely controlling the hazards associated > with use of such materials; programs that encourage source reduction > and product substitution during every stage of the requisitioning > process (e.g., during product specification, procurement, > review/approval). What works and what doesn't work? I'd appreciate > any input. > > Ron Del Mar > Fluor Daniel Northwest > P.O. Box 1050 > Richland, WA 99252 > (509) 376-1967 > (509) 373-9519 (fx) > ronald_a_del_mar@rl.gov > I have worked with several companies, beginning in 1986, that have reduced their use of hazardous chemicals for a variety of reasons, including cost avoidance, avoiding regulatory interactions (CESQGs are rarely inspected), eliminating other requirements (e.g., air or water permits), and just good old concern for efficient use of resources as a way of protecting their host planet. 1. Printer went from using metals containing inks to organic inks. Clean up with water, with discharge of biodegradable inks and paper residues to sewer. Avoided $1,000,000 investment in waste treatment plant, regulation as a waste generator and wastewater treater, etc. Cost of change: Less than $10,000 with a quality improvement, as well as improved customer relations. Time frame: 1986-1987. 2. Aluminmu can manufacturer eliminated solvent used to clean jets used in printing on the cans (the cans are really "printed" rather than "painted"). Motivation was avoidance of large non-haz waste stream becoming haz waste with TCLP advent (from $200/wk to $4000/wk expected cost increase). Bought additional parts, sonic sink, citrus based cleaners, etc. Eliminated chlorinated, then flammable solvent from plant, reducing haz waste generation from over 1000 kg/mo to less than 100 kg/mo (almost none, in fact). Reduced insurance premium for fire hazard. Increased productivity more than 15 percent since change shortened color change time. Total cost: About $15,000. Payback period: Less than six weeks. 3. Manufacturing plating shop eliminated rinse water to treat and dispose. Installed counterflow rinse system (3 tanks each rinse). Replaced tap and DI water with RO water (eliminating some chemical usage). Rinse now is make up into plating tanks. Plating tanks made up with RO water and with only RO water drag in last 5-6 times as long as before. Eliminated major waste stream (rinse water to be treated) and sludge from rinse water; significantly reduced (to about 20% of previous generation rate) waste stream consisting of spent plating solutions. Capital costs: about $150,000. Payback period, less than four months. Improved quality significantly, improved productivity a small, but measurable, amount. I could give you about ten more examples, but I have to take my son to his baseball game. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 21 15:38:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA01545 for p2tech-out; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970721154241.0073f7e4@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:42:41 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: janet clark Subject: Re: Sample P2 Plans In-Reply-To: <199706091526.LAA20207@cedar.cic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 11:26 AM 6/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >I am new to P2 plans. I am trying to start an effort here at the >Arkansas Center for Technology Transfer to assist small to medium size >companies with P2 plans. I would like to review some proven effective >P2 plans as examples. Can anyone suggest on-line sites, books, manuals, >etc... I am finding lots of great info on the p2tech web site archives >( I just subscribed to the list so please be patient), but no examples >of actual plans. > >Thank you in advance for your time. >-- > >Kent Peetz >Environmental Engineer >Arkansas Center for Technology Transfer >501-575-6180 >kpeetz@actt.engr.uark.edu > > Hi Kent, Check out our web site as indicated below in my signature and the Massachusetts DEP web site as follows http://www.magnet.state.ma.us/dep/bwp/dhm/tura/turapubs.htm#other Also, out Technical Assistance program has a site at http://www.magnet.state.ma.us/ota/ota.htm with how to get case studies and a helpful publication called "A Practical Guide to Toxics Use Reduction" We offer a "TUR Planner Curriculum", available for the cost of reproducing ($45). The State has a "Plan Guidance" which gives detailed instructions for creating a plan. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 22 12:06:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA28192 for p2tech-out; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970722144811.009bd4b4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:48:11 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: P2Tech Archives and Updates Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The front page for the P2Tech Archives has moved. The old addresses will still work, but the new front end and search engine are much better. It allows full searching of all e-mails, a listing of the last 30 days of messages, and viewing and searching of previous months and years individually. Check out the new page at: . Let me know what you think. If you like the page, you might also send a note to the creator of the archives, Ron Emaus, remaus@cic.net. HOLIDAYS Remember to send me your vacation dates, especially if you using a vact. message. I would prefer to have them about a week in advance in case I am away for a few days. ADMIN. REQUESTS Please send all requests to . REPLY FUNCTION Please remember that the reply function sends messages to the entire list. It is easy to forget -- I have done it may times, but please make sure you are sending the message only to the intended person(s). Thanks, Lisa ********************************************************* Lisa C. Morrison List Manager Waste Management and Research Center One East Hazelwood Drive, Champaign, Illinois 61820 morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu 217/244-6061 (voice) 217/333-8944 (fax) ********************************************************* From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 22 16:38:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA23525 for p2tech-out; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707222033.QAA52200@r02n02.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: hew111@email.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:40:56 +0000 To: pray@iams.org From: wjw5@psu.edu (Warren J. Weaver) Subject: Re: Reuse of Dewatered Ink Solids Cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi, Bonnie. I have a answer to your question. It means changing treatment system technology however. I work with a company that makes membrane filter based treatment systems. They have experience with systems for flexographic washwater. By separating the particles and large molecules from the small molecules (such as water) in a membrane filter, the ink solids (pigment and resins) and some of the co-solvents, anti-foaming agents, adhesion enhancers and other additives are concentrated for reuse (we call it a recycle system, not a treatment system). In the flexo newspaper industry, this has become standard technology. The key is to reuse these ink components in the black ink where the various colors, when mixed become very dark and are "hidden" (they use a lot of black ink in the newspaper industry). If your client does not use much black ink, you've still concentrated valuable components (some ink pigments cost more than $6 per pound). Perhaps your client's ink manufacturer would be interested in it. Or, perhaps, there is another flexographic printer in the area that does use a lot of black water based ink-the Louisville Courier does, the Akron Beacon-Journal does, the Pittsburgh Post does among others. I would be happy to talk to your client and put them in touch with the recycle system's manufacturer. Call me or have your client call me. wjw/ wjw5@psu.edu Warren J. Weaver PENNTAP 227 W. Market St. York, PA 17401 ph 717-848-6669 cell ph 717-873-9898 fax 717-854-0087 web site www.penntap.psu.edu/ At 4:44 PM 7/15/97 -0700, Bonnie Pray wrote: >We are working with a plastics printing company that has flexographic >printing operations. They use all water-based inks. Press cleanups are >conducted with a water/soap solution. The spent wash water is sent to a >wastewater treatment system where it is coagulated using aluminum >chloride solution. Lime solution is also added to the wastewater to >adjust pH. The wastewater then goes through a plate and frame filter >press where solids are removed. My assumption is that most of the solids >consist of ink pigments. Currently, these solids are landfilled. >Does anyone have suggestions to reduce or eliminate this waste stream? > Can the ink pigments be recovered? FYI - we are already addressing >their product scheduling practices to reduce the number of press >changeovers, this should reduce the amount of wastewater to some extent. >Thanks for any input. > >Bonnie L. Pray >Engineer >Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Sciences >Cincinnati, OH >(513) 948-2015 >pray@iams.org From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 23 10:39:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA16374 for p2tech-out; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:21:59 -0400 (EDT) From: PioLom@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970723103034_-1542716536@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Methylene Chloride Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I am looking for case studies/systems on removal/reuse of methylene chloride from Pharmaceutical industry wastewater and would appreciate any responses. Thanks in advance Pio Lombardo piolom@aol.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 23 11:39:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA17326 for p2tech-out; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:35:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707231435.KAA17326@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, roundtable@great-lakes.net From: LIEBL@epd.engr.wisc.edu Subject: Touring The National P2 Information Network Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Lisa Regenstein, Jackie Peden, and I have put together a web-based tour of the National P2 Information Network. If any of you would like to use this for illustrating the P2 information tools that are available over the web, the URL is http://shwec1.engr.wisc.edu/websites.htm ******************************************************************** David S. Liebl University of Wisconsin Solid &Hazardous Waste Education Center 610 Langdon Street, Madison, WI 53703-1195 608/265-2360 FAX/262-6250 liebl@epd.engr.wisc.edu ********************************************************************* From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 23 12:39:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA23421 for p2tech-out; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BC9746.6EAA7120.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Methylene Chloride Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:57:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The best option is to not use methylene chloride to begin with. How are they using it? Is it from quality assurance tests, or is it part of the chemical reactions in producing the pharmaceuticals? What is the level of concentration in the wastewater? Allan Butler Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corp. 510 Washington Ave., Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com -----Original Message----- From: PioLom@aol.com [SMTP:PioLom@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 1997 7:31 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Methylene Chloride I am looking for case studies/systems on removal/reuse of methylene chloride from Pharmaceutical industry wastewater and would appreciate any responses. Thanks in advance Pio Lombardo piolom@aol.com From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 23 13:39:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA00211 for p2tech-out; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707231725.NAA00205@cedar.cic.net> Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 13:34:15 EDT From: "Marvin Fleischman, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Univers" To: Cc: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0flei01@ulkyvm.louisvi lle.edu SUBJECT: I have a wastewater from spraying a die lubricant (water- mineral-vegetable oil mixture/emulsion) in an aluminum casting process. In addition to the lubricant the waste water contains hydraulic oil (diethylene glycol, polyalkylene glycol, water, and di-isopropyl-ethanol amine), and some grease/oil. The grease and oil are removed in a incined plate coalescer/skmimmer. The hydraulic oil comes from leaks. Questions are: 1) Can the die lubricant spray water be directly reused after grease & oil removal? 2) If it is also necessary to remove the hydraulic oil for spray lubricant reuse, how can it be removed? Activated carbon adsorption will probably not be effective because the glycols are polar. Can they be removed by ultrafiltration or is the molecular weight too low? Ultrafiltration will probably also retain the die lubricant (mineral oil). Likewise with reverse osmosis. Would extraction be a possibility? Thanks Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, Department of Chemical Engineering, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, 502/852-6357, FAX:502/852-6355, email:m0flei01@ulkyvm. louisville.edu From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 23 16:33:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA12589 for p2tech-out; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 23 Jul 1997 13:36:08 -0700 From: "Isao Kobashi" Subject: Aluminum Oxide Slurrey To: "P2 tech" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Subject: Time: 12:02 PM Aluminum Oxide Slurrey Date: 7/23/97 I am working with a magnetic disc refinisher who acid strips the magnetic coating and subsequently polishes the surface with an aluminum oxide slurrey. He currently pretreats this waste, discharges the water to the local POTW and ships the sludge offsite. Does anyone know of a technology that is currently in use to recover and reuse slurrey from magnetic disc polishing operations? Isao Kobashi Santa Clara County P2 Program From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 23 18:06:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA18263 for p2tech-out; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33D68128.3088@mindlink.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:09:44 -0700 From: Hamdy el rayes Organization: El Rayes Environmental Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Qualitative Risk Assessment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear group member: El Rayes Environmental Corporation is looking for an environmental consulting firm or individuals in Washington State or Oregon interested in working on a project in British Columbia, Canada with extensive experience in the following areas: Qualitative Risk Assessment, Site Assessment, Surface and Subsurface investigations including hydrogeology and geology, Characterization of surface and subsurface contaminants, Mapping of surface and subsurface geology and hydrogeology, and Computer modeling. If you are interested (individual or consulting firm), please call Dr. El-Rayes at (604) 222-2387. Best regards. From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 24 09:37:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA00830 for p2tech-out; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 09:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970724134515.00a2e060@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 08:45:15 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Hamdy el rayes (by way of List Manager ) Subject: Qualitative Risk Assessment Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear group member: El Rayes Environmental Corporation is looking for an environmental consulting firm or individuals in Washington State or Oregon interested in working on a project in British Columbia, Canada with extensive experience in the following areas: Qualitative Risk Assessment, Site Assessment, Surface and Subsurface investigations including hydrogeology and geology, Characterization of surface and subsurface contaminants, Mapping of surface and subsurface geology and hydrogeology, and Computer modeling. If you are interested (individual or consulting firm), please call Dr. El-Rayes at (604) 222-2387. Best regards. From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 24 22:27:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id WAA03944 for p2tech-out; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 22:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970724200358.006c44bc@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net> X-Sender: thcg@mailhost.chi.ameritech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:03:58 -0500 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: THE HINSDALE CONSULTING GROUP Subject: FYI...ENVIRONMENTAL SOFTWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I found this press release on the 'net and thought it might be of interest to the group... _____________________________________________________________ GEOREF Systems Ltd. is pleased to announce the release of the EnviroBrowser. The EnviroBrowser provides an easy-to-use interface to a database of thousands of physical and chemical environmental parameters. These parameters include hydraulic conductivity, porosity, adsorption, dispersivity, half-lives, and EPA priority pollutants. GEOREF is giving the software away for free, providing you complete the on-line survey at our WWW site, WWW.GEOREF.COM. The free version of the software is fully-functional. If you register for a licensed version of the EnviroBrowser ($69.00), you will receive an unlocked version of the database with the ability to add your own parameters to the database. We welcome your visit to our WWW site to complete our survey and download a copy of the EnviroBrowser. =================== GEOREF Systems Ltd. www.georef.com =================== _____________________________________________________________ //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// MARK REIDER, Managing Director THE HINSDALE CONSULTING GROUP e-mail: thcg@mailzone.com Profitability Improvement Consultants to the Process Manufacturing, and Environmental Services and Products Industries. "Data --> Information --> Growth Strategies --> Increased Profits" From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 25 11:16:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA22396 for p2tech-out; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:02:35 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:52:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Suzanne Simoni (610) 832-6021" Subject: Aluminum oxide available To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: "Heather A. Bouch" , Alice Pakhtigian Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:02:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: E440ZWYHECHP5 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;53200152707991/805676@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We've recently conducted a preliminary P2 assessment at an electroplating facility that uses Al2O3 (aluminum oxide) to blast the metal parts at various stages of their process. The Al2O3 begins at sizes of 100 - 520 mesh, but becomes finer with use. When it is too fine, the facility landfills it. Is anyone aware of another industry type which might be able to use this as a raw material? (you may respond to P2Tech or simoni.suzanne@a1.dep.state.pa.us) Thanks From p2tech-owner Fri Jul 25 16:46:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA05928 for p2tech-out; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33D903E0.B78@originet.com.br> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:52:00 -0200 From: "Wilson W. Hatanaka" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Aluminum oxide available References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Suzanne Simoni (610) 832-6021 wrote: > > We've recently conducted a preliminary P2 assessment at an electroplating > facility that uses Al2O3 (aluminum oxide) to blast the metal parts at various > stages of their process. The Al2O3 begins at sizes of 100 - 520 mesh, but > becomes finer with use. When it is too fine, the facility landfills it. Is > anyone aware of another industry type which might be able to use this as a raw > material? > > (you may respond to P2Tech or simoni.suzanne@a1.dep.state.pa.us) Thanks______________________________________________________________________________________ Suzane -------- Look at Plastics additives-An industrial guide/by Ernest W.Flick There are many possibilities to use it as plastics additives. Also, if it does not contain much impurity , why dont you try to ask Poly Aluminium Chloride (PAC) manufacturer, they may have use for, as part of their raw material. Wilson From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 07:44:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA03504 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707281134.HAA03499@cedar.cic.net> X-Sender: mpitcher@werple.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ecdm@pdomain.uwindsor.ca, p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Michael Pitcher Subject: Wood Particleboard re-use & recycling Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Friends I work with a company that has tens of thousands of cubic metres p.a. of particle board and (MDI)resin-bound wood fibre (medium density fibreboard) in the form of off-cuts, sealed with wood veneer, or melamine and with ABS or PVC edge-banding. These come in thicknesses of 18, 25, and 32 mm. and areas in the range of 2000mm-1200mm by 1500 - 300mm. We would like to know of any processes which could be used to re-work and re-use this material. The same process(es) could also be used at the post-consumer take-back stage. I would be grateful for any suggestions or ideas to use this material and prolong its life. (By the way, we are also trying to address the problem at source by exploring how to reduce the amount of off-cuts.) Thank you in advance for your assistance. cheers michael ====================================== Michael Pitcher B.Sc., Grad.Dip.Env.Sc., MEIA ======>Environmental Systems Co-ordinator Schiavello Commercial Interiors (Aust) Pty.Ltd. Tel: +61 (0)3 9330 1722 Fax: +61 (0)3 9330 3220 ======>Pitcher Environmental Management Pty.Ltd. 89 Bendigo St., Richmond, Vic. 3121, Australia Ans. Mach., Tel & Fax: +61 (0)3 9428 6622 ======>URL: http://mira.net/~mpitcher/ e-mail: mpitcher@mira.net Private Tel: +61 (0)3 9428 8504 ======================================= From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 09:01:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA05707 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:57:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:57:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707281257.IAA05707@cedar.cic.net> From: "CAMP: Whitehead, Amy B." To: P2TECH Subject: Foundry Sand Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We are working with a client that makes aluminum castings using sand molds. They generate significant amounts of waste sand (containing small amounts of resins and aluminum fines). They recently installed a sand reclamation system which is undersized, performing unsatisfactorily and thus can not keep up with production. Excess sand goes directly to the landfill. Does anyone have experience in this industry? Can you suggest reduce/reuse options targeting sand in this operation? Thanks. Amy Whitehead CAMP Inc. 4600 Prospect Avenue Cleveland Ohio 44103-4314 216.432.5194 216.361.2900F Amy.Whitehead@CAMP.org From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 09:07:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA05947 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:10:24 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:46:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: USES FOR COAL FLY ASH To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:10:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D104ZWYKD3K3O X400-Mts-Identifier: [;42019082707991/809085@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech FROM: R. Illig AT: illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us One & All, In Pa we have developed several uses for coal fly ash...mine site reclamation, stabilized fill, and soil conditioning are some of the more common uses. I have learned that in many cases (when burning soft coal) the ash is too acidic for general reuse scenarios...requires too much lime, for stabilization, to be cost effective. QUESTION: Has anyone developed other uses for coal fly ash which takes advantage of the acidic nature, or otherwise developed processing methods that would allow reuse? From perhaps more of a P2 perspective, one option under consideration is to burn harder (not anthracite) coal. Does anyone have any experiences to relate in this area? Thanks for any assistance you may offer, Ric From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 09:30:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA07026 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:34:32 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:10:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Coal Pyrites To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:34:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D141ZWYKDO5BG X400-Mts-Identifier: [;23439082707991/809149@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech FROM: R. Illig At: illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us One & All, A recently visited facility is looking for options for management of waste pyrite...generated through crushing and screening of soft coal. As I understand it, the waste is high in sulfur, but I have no indication of how high the sulfur content actually gets. QUESTION: Can anyone suggest possible outlets for direct reuse, or recovery of the sulfur for reuse? Burning the material as a fuel adds to the facility's already high SOx and would require costly processing equipment. The use of higher grade coal does not appear to be an option. Thanks for any assistance, Ric From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 09:32:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA07144 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:40:43 -0400 From: EDWARD WEILER To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: USES FOR COAL FLY ASH -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At a recent EPA-sponsored conference (Environmentally Preferable Purchasing) in Baltimore a week or so back, there was a ton of material displayed by the American Coal Ash Association (703-317-2400). You could also e-mail them at ACAA@ix.netcom.com. I'd appreciate hearing from you if they have anything useful to offer with respect to your question. Ed Weiler (USEPA-Pollution Prevention Division) Washington, D.C. Phone: (202) 260-2996 >>> "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" 07/28/97 09:46am >>> One & All, In Pa we have developed several uses for coal fly ash...mine site reclamation, stabilized fill, and soil conditioning are some of the more common uses. I have learned that in many cases (when burning soft coal) the ash is too acidic for general reuse scenarios...requires too much lime, for stabilization, to be cost effective. QUESTION: Has anyone developed other uses for coal fly ash which takes advantage of the acidic nature, or otherwise developed processing methods that would allow reuse? From perhaps more of a P2 perspective, one option under consideration is to burn harder (not anthracite) coal. Does anyone have any experiences to relate in this area? Thanks for any assistance you may offer, Ric From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 10:24:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA09490 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:23:07 -0400 (EDT) From: p2ad@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <33DCAF96.7A01@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:41:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Clinical Laboratory P2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear P2Tech Subscribers: I am seeking information on pollution prevention case studies or information that would be pertinent to a commercial clinical (medical testing) laboratory. I'm familiar with the wide range of information available for academic laboratories and research labs, but a lot of that doesn't apply to a clinical lab. Also, I already have the Massachusetts Mercury case study for a clinical lab. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------- Jancie Hatcher Information Manager GA Pollution Prevention Asst. Div. 7 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive Suite 450 Atlanta, GA 30334 (404) 651-5120 FAX (404) 651-5130 From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 10:28:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA09694 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 10:34:43 -0400 From: DANA ARNOLD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: USES FOR COAL FLY ASH -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency designates recycled content products that government agencies must purchase. In 1983, we designated cement and concrete containing coal fly ash. To date, approximately 30 states use coal fly ash in concrete in roadway applications. Cement containing coal fly ash also has been used in buildings, bridges, and even many of the Metro subway stations in Washington, DC. The American Coal Ash Association developed a booklet called "Fly Ash Facts for Highway Engineers," which is distributed by the Federal Highway Administration and which provides technical information about using coal fly ash in concrete, road bases, flowable fill, structural fills, and for grouting and paving. It's publication FHWA-SA-94-081. As was noted by another respondent, ACAA also has a lot of other useful information for using coal fly ash. For copies of EPA's Comprehensive Procurement Guideline and Recovered Materials Advisory Notice, contact the RCRA Hotline at 800-424-9346 or visit EPA's web site at http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/non-hw/procure.htm. Dana Arnold Municipal Information & Analysis Branch U.S. Environmental Protection Agency 401 M Street, S.W. (5306W) Washington, DC 20460 arnold.dana@epamail.epa.gov >>> "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" 07/28/97 09:46am >>> One & All, In Pa we have developed several uses for coal fly ash...mine site reclamation, stabilized fill, and soil conditioning are some of the more common uses. I have learned that in many cases (when burning soft coal) the ash is too acidic for general reuse scenarios...requires too much lime, for stabilization, to be cost effective. QUESTION: Has anyone developed other uses for coal fly ash which takes advantage of the acidic nature, or otherwise developed processing methods that would allow reuse? From perhaps more of a P2 perspective, one option under consideration is to burn harder (not anthracite) coal. Does anyone have any experiences to relate in this area? Thanks for any assistance you may offer, Ric From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 12:34:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA16460 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:33:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:34:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Foundry Sand To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <882564E2.005AD094.00@epahub4.rtptok.epa.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have a fact sheet published by California Environmental Protection Agency called "Onsite Reclamation and Reuse of Waste Foundry Sands". Let me know if you'd like a copy. Karen Sundheim (GCI) US EPA Region 9 Library 75 Hawthorne Street San Francisco, California 94105 Phone: 415-744-1508 Fax: 415-744-1474 Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 12:38:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA16745 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707281646.MAA13674@arthur.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:46:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: USES FOR COAL FLY ASH Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 08:46 AM 7/28/97 -0500, you wrote: > >>FROM: R. Illig > AT: illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us > > One & All, > > In Pa we have developed several uses for coal fly ash...mine > site reclamation, stabilized fill, and soil conditioning are some > of the more common uses. I have learned that in many cases (when > burning soft coal) the ash is too acidic for general reuse > scenarios...requires too much lime, for stabilization, to be cost > effective. > > QUESTION: Has anyone developed other uses for coal fly ash which > takes advantage of the acidic nature, or otherwise > developed processing methods that would allow reuse? > > From perhaps more of a P2 perspective, one option under > consideration is to burn harder (not anthracite) coal. Does > anyone have any experiences to relate in this area? Fly ash has been used as a cement over many centuries, dating back to at least the 1st century BC. This is a use that could be explored. It may also be useful as a filler in making block and other construction materials. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 12:41:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA16907 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707281649.MAA14083@arthur.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:49:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Foundry Sand Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 08:57 AM 7/28/97 -0400, you wrote: >We are working with a client that makes aluminum castings using sand molds. > They generate significant amounts of waste sand (containing small amounts >of resins and aluminum fines). They recently installed a sand reclamation >system which is undersized, performing unsatisfactorily and thus can not >keep up with production. Excess sand goes directly to the landfill. > >Does anyone have experience in this industry? Can you suggest reduce/reuse >options targeting sand in this operation? > >Thanks. >Amy Whitehead >CAMP Inc. >4600 Prospect Avenue >Cleveland Ohio 44103-4314 >216.432.5194 >216.361.2900F >Amy.Whitehead@CAMP.org > The manufacturing of cement uses both sand (for the silicate) and aluminum to make suitable cement klinker that is then ground for cement. You should contact some cement manufacturers to see if they are willing to take the sand and use it in their kiln. This would be cheaper than landfilling and better resource management. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 16:09:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA26812 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:11:13 +0000 From: NEIL KOLWEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: meth chloride glue Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech There is an office furniture manufacturer in Colorado which uses a methylene chloride-based adhesive to glue foam rubber to fabric and foam rubber to wood and metal. Can anyone recommend an aqueous or less toxic adhesive product for this type of application? From p2tech-owner Mon Jul 28 16:27:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA27693 for p2tech-out; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707282027.QAA27693@cedar.cic.net> From: Laura Beer To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Call for Presentations -- 1997 GLIN Conference Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech 1997 GLIN Conference: Making the Net Work for You October 23-24, 1997 Chicago Illinois Call for Presentations and Registration Information Join us for the 1997 GLIN Conference, October 23-24, 1997, in Chicago, Illinois. All sessions will be held at the University of Chicago Gleacher Center, located on the downtown campus of the Graduate School of Business. Registration for the full conference is $75 (US); one-day registration is $60 (US); registration fees will be waived for presenters. Special sessions will serve the interests of the following Internet users in the Great Lakes region: 1. Public agency webmasters 2. Economic development and manufacturing community 3. Natural resources and environmental community 4. Research community If you are a member of one of these four communities and use the Internet to enhance productivity, we invite you to submit a presentation abstract on any of the topics listed below: Topic 1. Case Studies: Innovative and Practical Solutions How have innovative uses of the Internet affected your agency or organization? Describe these innovations, consider their pros and cons and magnitude of impact. What are the lessons learned? Technical and/or content-based solutions welcomed. Topic 2. Internet-based Building Blocks for Collaboration Are you a member of a multi-agency or multi-organization regional project or forum working toward a common goal and making use of the Internet to work together more effectively? Do you use the Internet to enhance public outreach and participation? Discuss these uses, the costs and benefits, and plans for improving collaboration online. Topic 3. New Directions What are the future roles of Internet services as tools for decision making and public access to information and knowledge? Examine areas such as cost recovery and funding, content restrictions, the web as a place of doing business, and public outreach. Guidelines for Abstract Submission Submit an abstract (approximately 100 words) for each presentation by July 31, 1997, to the Great Lakes Commission Argus II Building 400 Fourth St. Ann Arbor, MI 48103-4816 Fax: 313-665-4370 E-mail: glc@great-lakes.net Include contact information, topic number, and your presentation's title. Invitations to speak will be announced August 29, 1997. Low GLIN Conference registration fees are made possible thanks to funding support provided by U.S. EPA Great Lakes National Program Office, Environment Canada, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Ameritech Foundation. For more information contact GLIN Director Carol Ratza, cratza@glc.org, 313-665-9135, or visit the GLIN Conference Web site, linked from the GLIN homepage at: http://www.great-lakes.net From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 29 14:00:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA09714 for p2tech-out; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:07:44 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Fly Ash Reuse To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:07:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D135ZWYLK6QV7 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;44704192707991/812203@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech FROM: R. Illig At: illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us Just wanted to thank everyone for the leads and responses regarding Fly Ash reuse. Also wanted to mention a slight kink in the "reuse in cement" option. Clean Air requirements seems to have required many (most?) coal burners to install low-NOx burners. Due to the lower efficiency (depending on the boiler design), ash carbon levels have increased to where the ash can no longer be used in concrete (I think below 6% carbon is needed). Another adverse side effect is that the volume of ash increases roughly 8% to 18 % (ugh!). (It was noted that fly ash from secondary precipitators collected lower carbon ash, but unfortunately carbon levels were not quite low enough to allow use in concrete.) QUESTION: Is anyone aware of any efforts to change the combustion atmosphere? (Direct feeds of O2, methane or other gases.)(Or something similar.) Ric From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 29 14:50:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA13034 for p2tech-out; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707291849.OAA13025@cedar.cic.net> Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 14:58:26 EDT From: "Marvin Fleischman, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, Univers" To: , Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0flei01@ulkyvm.louisvi lle.edu SUBJECT: I am trying to get some rough cost estimates on training spray paint operators. Can anyone suggest some contacts. Thanks Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, Department of Chemical Engineering, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, 502/852-6357, FAX:502/852-6355, email:m0flei01@ulkyvm. louisville.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 29 15:09:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA14423 for p2tech-out; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707291918.PAA08737@impsrv1.imp.mtu.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: impsrv1.imp.mtu.edu: Host pent8.imp.mtu.edu claimed to be pent8 X-Sender: retieder@impsrv1.imp.mtu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:18:30 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Dick Tieder Subject: Re: Fly Ash Reuse Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This is in response to Richard Illig's comments regarding high carbon ash from low NOx burners. For over the past several years we have developed technologies to remove carbon from fly ash and to use the recovered C and clean ashin a variety of commercial applications. DOE has sponsored the most recent aspects of the work. Our licensee Mineral Resource Technologies of Atlanta is commercializing the technology and currently negotiating the first commercial installation. Further information is available upon request. Richard E.Tieder Projects Manager Institute of Materials Processing Michigan Technological University Houghton, MI 49931 906-487-1829 Voice 906-407-2921 Fax From p2tech-owner Tue Jul 29 17:20:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA22629 for p2tech-out; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707292119.RAA22629@cedar.cic.net> From: "Georgia Kagle (717) 787-7382" Subject: Automotive Shop Outreach To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Is anyone on P2 Tech familiar with the education and outreach efforts for automotive shops which NEWMOA was conducting in the Boston area (EPA Region 1)? I saw recently that they were developing information through an EJP2 EPA grant. I was wondering if any publications/information would be available to other states. Georgia Kagle PADEP Hazardous Waste Program Harrisburg, PA Kagle.Georgia@a1.dep.state.pa.us 717 787-6239 From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 30 10:47:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA11428 for p2tech-out; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707301444.KAA11428@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jack Annis Subject: Re: Training on Spray Painting Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Marvin, Most of the major paint equipment suppliers such as Binks, Graco, etc will provide training so you could check with them on their typical fee rates. Also you might check with your local technical colleges to see if they can provide the training. I know here in Wisconsin several tech colleges have spray painting courses. Jack At 02:58 PM 7/29/97 EDT, you wrote: >ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, >Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0flei01@ulkyvm.louisvi >lle.edu SUBJECT: >I am trying to get some rough cost estimates on training spray paint >operators. Can anyone suggest some contacts. >Thanks > >Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, Department of >Chemical Engineering, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY >40292, 502/852-6357, FAX:502/852-6355, email:m0flei01@ulkyvm. >louisville.edu > From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 30 11:07:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA12981 for p2tech-out; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707301516.LAA17106@celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:16:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Fly Ash Reuse Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 01:44 PM 7/29/97 -0500, you wrote: > >> Clean Air requirements seems to have required many (most?) coal > burners to install low-NOx burners. Due to the lower efficiency > (depending on the boiler design), ash carbon levels have increased > to where the ash can no longer be used in concrete (I think below > 6% carbon is needed). Another adverse side effect is that the > volume of ash increases roughly 8% to 18 % (ugh!). > > (It was noted that fly ash from secondary precipitators collected > lower carbon ash, but unfortunately carbon levels were not quite > low enough to allow use in concrete.) > > QUESTION: Is anyone aware of any efforts to change the combustion > atmosphere? (Direct feeds of O2, methane or other gases.)(Or > something similar.) > > Ric In 1980 or '81, I participated in a major study of emerging electric generating technology, including various combustion technologies. We looked at various technical and other barriers and advantages for over 20 technologies. Among them were fluidized bed, combined cycle, and other combustion technologies designed to improve efficiency and reduce air pollutant emissions. In the '70s and '80s, Battelle Columbus (OH) and others did a lot of research on fluidized bed combustion, involving use of limestone or other acid-neutralizing materials in the fluidized bed. This seemed to help the SOx and NOx problems. The resulting ashes, both fly and bottom ash, could have potential use as cements or cement additives. I am not sure of the final results of the program. Of course, the material added to the coal to make the fluidized bed increases the volume of ash produced, but may result in a useful byproduct, as opposed to a disposal problem. There has also been some research on enriching the air to the burner. Enriching air is less expensive and somewhat less dangerous than using O2, and can still reduce the NOx produced. However, enriching the air may have some cost via increased corrosion. A good resource on these issues may be EPRI. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 30 13:44:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA23675 for p2tech-out; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:55:14 +0000 From: Steven Nofziger Subject: Re: Training on Spray Painting To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <33DF39B2.69EC@uni.edu> Organization: Iowa Waste Reduction Center MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hello Marvin, The Iowa Waste Reduction Center developed a training program called the Spray Technique Analysis and Research (STAR) program. STAR is a revolutionary and unique approach to improving the efficiency of manual spray coating operations. The STAR program teaches how to optimize the efficiency of an entire spray system. You can learn more about the STAR program at the IWRC website; http://www.iwrc.org/STAR.html E-mail me if you would like more information. Sincerely, Steven Nofziger From p2tech-owner Wed Jul 30 15:45:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA01768 for p2tech-out; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:44:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Lois_Epstein@edf.org X-Lotus-FromDomain: EDF To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <852564E4.006CD98B.00@notesgw.edf.org> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:53:01 -0400 Subject: alternative to chromium-based cleaning solvent for a lab Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Does anyone know of an effective alternative for cleaning glassware in a wastewater treatment plant laboratory? I understand a product called No-Cromix was once available, but it seems to be difficult to find nowadays. Any information on an alternative product or on where/how to purchase No-Cromix would be greatly appreciated. Lois N. Epstein, P.E. Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) Lois_Epstein@edf.org From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 02:04:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id CAA01349 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd.Bigelow@batesville.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: BCC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, M0FLEI01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu Message-ID: <052564E5.00237C47.00@batesville.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 16:20:11 -0500 Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Purdue University and the Indiana Pollution Prevention and Safe Materials Institute offer this type of training in conjunction with the Coatings Application Research Lab (CARL). They provide equipment assessment, setup, and operator training that helps to minimize the amount sprayed, thereby reducing pollution potential. CARL will also work with you to test new coatings, etc. I have not personally utilized their services, but their success stories sound good. You will need to talk to them directly about cost. Contact: Rick Bauer (765) 494-6450 Todd Bigelow Environmental Manager Batesville Casket Company, Inc. 1000 East Pearl Street Batesville, IN 47006 (812) 934-7806 todd.bigelow@batesville.com ______________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ _____ Subject: Author: M0FLEI01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu at BCC Date: 7/29/97 2:58 PM ity of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, Ernst 314, Phone: 502-852-6357, FAX:502-852-6355, m0flei01@ulkyvm.louisvi lle.edu SUBJECT: I am trying to get some rough cost estimates on training spray paint operators. Can anyone suggest some contacts. Thanks Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, Department of Chemical Engineering, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, 502/852-6357, FAX:502/852-6355, email:m0flei01@ulkyvm. louisville.edu From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 08:56:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA18957 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:05:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199707311305.JAA13101@scitech.mstf.org> X-Sender: ecm@mstf.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: jsaxe Subject: Remanufacturing Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I=92m looking to talk with other Manufacturing Extension= Partners(MEP)directly involved with: =B7 programs finding/connecting the use of recycled-content materials as feedstock (e.g.connecting generators of unwanted materials with users of the material) =B7 working with manufacturers to consider recycled-content materials as feedstock alternatives =B7 programs promoting the use of recycled-content materials as feedstock alternatives =B7 programs promoting the economic development opportunities of using recycled-content materials as feedstock Please let me know how you are affiliated with the effort: =B7 in-house as part of MEP program =B7 support as partner =B7 housed within same operation but separate budget From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 09:15:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA20155 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:24:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199707311324.IAA09975@CP.Duluth.MN.US> X-Sender: p2team@cp.duluth.mn.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Tim Tuominen Subject: Re: alternative to chromium-based cleaning solvent for a lab Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 03:53 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know of an effective alternative for cleaning glassware in a >wastewater treatment plant laboratory? I understand a product called >No-Cromix was once available, but it seems to be difficult to find >nowadays. Any information on an alternative product or on where/how to >purchase No-Cromix would be greatly appreciated. > > >Lois N. Epstein, P.E. >Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) >Lois_Epstein@edf.org > reply: We have found any of the caustic cleaners commercially available work fine for the purposes that we previously used chromic acid. tt Tim Tuominen WLSSD 2626 Courtland Street Duluth, MN 55806 Phone: 218.722.3336 x324 Fax: 218.727.7471 Email: p2team@cp.duluth.mn.us From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 09:54:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA23195 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Wayne Pferdehirt" Organization: Engineering Professional Developmen To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:03:01 CST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) RE: (Fwd) Re: Reuse of Dewatered Ink Solids X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: <9E6C56034@epd.engr.wisc.edu> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Forwarded from Printech, administered by the Printers' National Environmental Assistance Center (PNEAC). ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Debra Kramer" To: "'printech@great-lakes.net'" , "'Bonnie Pray'" Subject: RE: (Fwd) Re: Reuse of Dewatered Ink Solids Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:23:45 -0500 Reply-to: printech@great-lakes.net Working with an ink company to reuse the solids is a good idea, but I would caution you and the ink company about waste regulations. The issue may be that the ink company would be considered a Treatment, Storage, and Disposal Facility (TSDF) if they accept a waste material. The regulations are different from state to state depending on their definition of recycling and how they enforce the regulations. Obviously, TSDF permitting is not a recommended option. It is a very costly and time consuming process. An alternative is to fuel blend the solids rather than send them to a land fill. Although ink pigments from w.b. ink have no BTU value they can combine them with other materials and fuel blend them at places such as a cement kiln. Deb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Debra Kramer Waste Management & Research Ctr. - IL DNR (PNEAC) 3333 W. Arthington Chicago, IL 60624 773/265-2036 773/265-8336 FAX Kramer@cmcusa.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- ---------- From: Wayne Pferdehirt[SMTP:pferdehi@epd.engr.wisc.edu] Sent: Friday, July 25, 1997 11:40 AM To: printech@great-lakes.net Subject: (Fwd) Re: Reuse of Dewatered Ink Solids Do any Printech users have anything to add to this inquiry? Post response to Printech and I will forward. -Wayne ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:40:56 +0000 To: pray@iams.org From: wjw5@psu.edu (Warren J. Weaver) Subject: Re: Reuse of Dewatered Ink Solids Cc: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Hi, Bonnie. I have a answer to your question. It means changing treatment system technology however. I work with a company that makes membrane filter based treatment systems. They have experience with systems for flexographic washwater. By separating the particles and large molecules from the small molecules (such as water) in a membrane filter, the ink solids (pigment and resins) and some of the co-solvents, anti-foaming agents, adhesion enhancers and other additives are concentrated for reuse (we call it a recycle system, not a treatment system). In the flexo newspaper industry, this has become standard technology. The key is to reuse these ink components in the black ink where the various colors, when mixed become very dark and are "hidden" (they use a lot of black ink in the newspaper industry). If your client does not use much black ink, you've still concentrated valuable components (some ink pigments cost more than $6 per pound). Perhaps your client's ink manufacturer would be interested in it. Or, perhaps, there is another flexographic printer in the area that does use a lot of black water based ink-the Louisville Courier does, the Akron Beacon-Journal does, the Pittsburgh Post does among others. I would be happy to talk to your client and put them in touch with the recycle system's manufacturer. Call me or have your client call me. wjw/ wjw5@psu.edu Warren J. Weaver PENNTAP 227 W. Market St. York, PA 17401 ph 717-848-6669 cell ph 717-873-9898 fax 717-854-0087 web site www.penntap.psu.edu/ At 4:44 PM 7/15/97 -0700, Bonnie Pray wrote: >We are working with a plastics printing company that has flexographic printing operations. They use all water-based inks. Press cleanups are conducted with a water/soap solution. The spent wash water is sent to a wastewater treatment system where it is coagulated using aluminum chloride solution. Lime solution is also added to the wastewater to adjust pH. The wastewater then goes through a plate and frame filter press where solids are removed. My assumption is that most of the solids consist of ink pigments. Currently, these solids are landfilled. Does anyone have suggestions to reduce or eliminate this waste stream? Can the ink pigments be recovered? FYI - we are already addressing their product scheduling practices to reduce the number of press changeovers, this should reduce the amount of wastewater to some extent. >Thanks for any input. > >Bonnie L. Pray >Engineer >Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Sciences >Cincinnati, OH >(513) 948-2015 >pray@iams.org ********************************************************** Wayne P. Pferdehirt, P.E., AICP U. of Wis., Solid & Hazardous Waste Education Center 610 Langdon Street, Room 529, Madison, WI 53703-1195 Phone: 608/265-2361 Fax: 608/262-6250 pferdehi@epd.engr.wisc.edu ********************************************************** ********************************************************** Wayne P. Pferdehirt, P.E., AICP U. of Wis., Solid & Hazardous Waste Education Center 610 Langdon Street, Room 529, Madison, WI 53703-1195 Phone: 608/265-2361 Fax: 608/262-6250 pferdehi@epd.engr.wisc.edu ********************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 11:24:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA29600 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970731102908.007b0780@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> X-Sender: jpyrz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:29:08 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jim Pyrz Subject: Re: alternative to chromium-based cleaning solvent for a lab In-Reply-To: <852564E4.006CD98B.00@notesgw.edf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 03:53 PM 7/30/97 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know of an effective alternative for cleaning glassware in a >wastewater treatment plant laboratory? I understand a product called >No-Cromix was once available, but it seems to be difficult to find >nowadays. Any information on an alternative product or on where/how to >purchase No-Cromix would be greatly appreciated. > > >Lois N. Epstein, P.E. >Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) >Lois_Epstein@edf.org > > No-chromix is still available from Fisher Scientific, according to my catalog. The phone number is 1-800-766-7000. Jim Pyrz Hazardous Waste Manager The University of Iowa Health Protection Office 100 HPO Iowa City, IA 52242-1000 Phone: 319-335-8501 FAX: 319-335-7564 e-mail: james-pyrz@uiowa.edu http://www.uiowa.edu/~hpo From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 11:48:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA01379 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: 31 Jul 97 11:52:47 EST From: Diana Zinkl To: uunet!great-lakes.net!p2tech@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: alternative to chromium-bas X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech In research laboratories, Chromic acid is considered an absolute last resort cleaner, used only when nothing else will work. It is used to remove certain metal residues, but only when other acids, and scraping and scrubbing has failed. A more benign acid mixture which is often used to clean glassware is aqua regia. Recipie and warnings follow: Usually, I only use rough ratios of the concentrated acids. However, the defined ratio is the following: Mix 82 mL HCl to 18 mL HNO3 If you know someone who needs to make this stuff, then be aware that it slowly produces toxic fumes (NOCl and Cl2) that can build up A LOT of pressure. I've seen bottles blow. Also, plastic bottles are preferred for short storage times (like a week...no longer). Usually aqua regia baths are stored in plastic containers with loose fitting lids in a fume hood. This prevents the build up of pressure and removes any vapors from the laboratory environment. Glassware is usually left in the aqua regia bath overnight. Also, glassware should be cleaned with soap and well rinsed before being placed in an aqua regia or chromic acid bath. Soap, water, aqua regia, and good scrubbing should properly clean almost all glassware. They could also try placing a small amount (a few drops) of concentrated nitric or sulfuric acid in any glassware with stubborn residues and rinsing it very carefully. Unless they are using a procedure that consistently produces residues that resist aqua regia and other concentrated acids, I suggest they simply throw away the occasional piece of glassware that can only be cleaned with chromic acid and do away with the chromic acid bath. Diana Zinkl Tellus Institute 11 Arlington St. Boston, MA 02116 tel: (617) 266-5400, fax: (617) 266-8303 dzinkl@tellus.org, http://www.tellus.org (note change from 'tellus.com'. '.com' is still usable) From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 12:03:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA02552 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:15:18 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970731111316.29f75b7a@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: gmiller@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Gary Miller Subject: Copper Pot Cleaning Alternatives Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We are working with a company that makes pop corn. They have high copper levels in their wastewater. The source apparently is from cleaning their copper kettles. They use water and a power scouring pad. This mechanical approach removes some of the kettle surface resulting in effluent levels of copper that are in violation of their permit. We are interested in suggestions for an alternative way to clean these pots that would not remove the copper. A large capital investment is probably not going to be acceptible because there are some relatively low cost treatment options. ******************************************************************* Gary D. Miller Illinois Waste Management and Research Center One East Hazelwood Drive Champaign, IL 61820 217/333-8942 phone 217/333-8944 fax gmiller@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu ****************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 13:35:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA08918 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970731135546.006f9afc@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: exi@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:55:56 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: exi@ornl.gov (Eva Irwin) Subject: Request Cc: ss9@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech SODIUM HYPOCHLORITE Sodium hypochlorite is a by product of the lithium metal production process. Lithium chloride is the feed material for lithium metal production. The lithium chloride is disassociated in an electrolytic cell. The chlorine gas generated is scrubbed with sodium hydroxide and produces sodium hypochlorite. If you have any information to share on ways to reduce sodium hypchlorite waste stream generation, how NaOCL is being handled at other sites, or potential users of sodium hypochlorite, please contact Gail James at 423-241-2330 or send your response to Eva Irwin. (see information listed below) Eva Irwin Y-12 Pollution Prevention Program Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. P. O. Box 2009 Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8222 exi@ornl.gov (423) 241-2581 phone (423) 241-2857 fax 0000,0000,ffffMake Less Mess in the Process0000,0000,ffff! From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 14:15:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA11582 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Constable,Miles [Edm]" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Request Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:18:31 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech In the P2 world you should perhaps consider if it is necessary to generate the hypochlorite in the first place. Not being an engineer I have no direct experience in this industry. However, sometimes that is beneficial. Could you modify the system so that the Cl2 gas generated can be collected, purified and compressed for resale? It is still used by many facilities (Municipal Waste Treatment Plants, swimming pools, water treatment plants, etc.) as a disinfectant. For that matter if the process is modifiable, you could give the Cl2 away. The company may still be saving money by not generating the hypochlorite waste in the first place. Miles Constable Senior Toxic Substances Officer Environment Canada - Edmonton Miles.Constable@ec.gc.ca >---------- >From: exi@ornl.gov[SMTP:exi@ornl.gov] >Sent: Thursday, July 31, 1997 11:55 AM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Cc: ss9@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov >Subject: Request > > >Sodium hypochlorite is a by product of the lithium metal production > >process. Lithium chloride is the feed material for lithium metal > >production. The lithium chloride is disassociated in an electrolytic cell. > >The chlorine gas generated is scrubbed with sodium hydroxide and produces > >sodium hypochlorite. > > >If you have any information to share on ways to reduce sodium hypchlorite > >waste stream generation, how NaOCL is being handled at other sites, or > >potential users of sodium hypochlorite, please contact Gail James at > >423-241-2330 or send your response to Eva Irwin. (see information listed >below) > > > >Eva Irwin > >Y-12 Pollution Prevention Program > >Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. > >P. O. Box 2009 > >Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8222 > >exi@ornl.gov > >(423) 241-2581 phone > >(423) 241-2857 fax > > >0000,0000,ffffMake Less Mess in the >Process0000,0000,ffff! > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 14:15:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA11676 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970731142838.007498f8@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:28:38 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, sean.mcguigan@state.ma.us, abuckley_eoea@state.ma.us, rreibstein_eoea@state.ma.us, avrichard@lucent.com, darveau.linda@epamail.epa.gov, 104633.477@compuserve.com (John Gihlsdorf), tom.burns@crbard.com, tgreiner@tiac.net, agmwen1@peabody.sct.ucarb.com, ctem@mnl.cyb-live.com, briana@loureiro.com (Brian Armet), rcushing@worldnet.com (Richard Cushing), FGK-Ma@msn.com (Frank Kissell), ssnyder@hadco.com (Stephen Synder), kteal@bigyellow.com (Ken Teal) From: janet clark Subject: chemical management system Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi all, A local company is seriously searching for contacts and case studies or examples of creation of a Chemical Management Sytem (all aspects). Any ideas? I am directing them toward Polaroid for its EARS program, but there are probably better cases for this medium-sized textile producer. She is not interested in software unless there is access to information about real experience with its application. Thanks. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 14:15:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA11700 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970731142858.0074d79c@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:28:58 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, sean.mcguigan@state.ma.us, abuckley_eoea@state.ma.us, rreibstein_eoea@state.ma.us, avrichard@lucent.com, darveau.linda@epamail.epa.gov, 104633.477@compuserve.com (John Gihlsdorf), tom.burns@crbard.com, tgreiner@tiac.net, agmwen1@peabody.sct.ucarb.com, ctem@mnl.cyb-live.com, briana@loureiro.com (Brian Armet), rcushing@worldnet.com (Richard Cushing), FGK-Ma@msn.com (Frank Kissell), ssnyder@hadco.com (Stephen Synder), kteal@bigyellow.com (Ken Teal) From: janet clark Subject: chemical management system Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi all, A local company is seriously searching for contacts and case studies or examples of creation of a Chemical Management Sytem (all aspects). Any ideas? I am directing them toward Polaroid for its EARS program, but there are probably better cases for this medium-sized textile producer. She is not interested in software unless there is access to information about real experience with its application. Thanks. From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 17:07:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA21157 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:02:50 +0000 From: "Michael A. Schultz" Subject: 33/50 Program To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <01ILW62TFRCY9LVHGK@chevax.ecs.umass.edu> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Comments: Authenticated sender is Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Does anyone have any information or references that discuss the results of the 33/50 program that was established by the EPA? I'm interested both in the hard data-were emissions reduced by 50% by 1995?-and the overall success of the volutary program. Thanks for any help. ----------------------------------- Mike Schultz mschultz@chevax.ecs.umass.edu 159 Goessman Laboratory UMass-Amherst, Dept. of Chemical Engineering Amherst, MA 01003 Office phone: 413-577-0138 From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 17:08:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA22417 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:47:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeff Seadon" Organization: UNITEC Institute of Technology To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:01:07 +1200 Subject: Sodium hypochlorite X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <97Aug1.084216nzst.32286-1@flame.unitec.ac.nz> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Here in New Zealand we have large amounts of NaOCl produced from paper bleaching. This is then onsold to the bleach manufacturers and pool chlorine manufacturers. That may be an option for you. Jeff Seadon > > Sodium hypochlorite is a by product of the lithium metal production > > process. Lithium chloride is the feed material for lithium metal > > production. The lithium chloride is disassociated in an electrolytic cell. > > The chlorine gas generated is scrubbed with sodium hydroxide and produces > > sodium hypochlorite. > > > If you have any information to share on ways to reduce sodium hypchlorite > > waste stream generation, how NaOCL is being handled at other sites, or > > potential users of sodium hypochlorite, please contact Gail James at > > 423-241-2330 or send your response to Eva Irwin. (see information listed below) > > > > Eva Irwin > > Y-12 Pollution Prevention Program > > Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. > > P. O. Box 2009 > > Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8222 > > exi@ornl.gov > > (423) 241-2581 phone > > (423) 241-2857 fax > > > 0000,0000,ffffMake Less Mess in the > Process0000,0000,ffff! > > > Jeff Seadon UNITEC Institute of Technology Private Bag 92025 Auckland New Zealand Phone 64-09-8494180 Fax 64-09-8154326 E-mail jseadon@unitec.ac.nz From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 18:19:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA26885 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199707312228.PAA18340@netcom3.netcom.com> Subject: Re: 33/50 Program To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:28:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01ILW62TFRCY9LVHGK@chevax.ecs.umass.edu> from "Michael A. Schultz" at Jul 31, 97 04:02:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech There's a chapter on the 33/50 program in all of the TRI press releases. I quote: "The 33/50 Program achieved overall reductions of 50.7% in 1994, a full year ahead of the 1995 target date for a 50% reduction. All told, 757 million pounds of releases and transfers have been eliminated since the 1988 baseline year for the program." Mind you, it's a reduction in *reported* releases, not a reduction in actual releases. Different methods of estimating releases can yield results that vary by orders of magnitude, so if a company switched from one estimating method to another one, they might report a huge reduction in releases when actual releases didn't change at all. Anyway, there are lots and lots of reports on the 33/50 Program, but the TRI press releases might be a good place to start. Call the EPCRA hotline at 800-535-0202 for a free copy of the latest one. =============================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 U.S.A. 1-818-878-0454 rosselot@netcom.com =============================== From p2tech-owner Thu Jul 31 19:28:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA00231 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:27:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Wilson.Bill@epamail.epa.gov Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 16:22:44 -0700 Subject: Re: 33/50 Program To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <882564E5.00800C20.00@RTNTEMAIL.RTRT2144.EPA.GOV> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech There are EPA summary reports that cover both areas. Check first with the Pollution Prevention Information Clearinghouse at 202-260-1023. If no luck there, Susie Hazen ran the program. She's at 202-260-1024. ************************************************************************* Bill Wilson, EPA Region 9 Pollution Prevention Coordinator 75 Hawthorne Street, San Francisco CA 94105 phone 415.744.2192 fax 415.744.1796 email wilson.bill@epamail.epa.gov ************************************************************************* mschultz@chevax.ecs.umass.edu on 07/31/97 09:02:50 AM Please respond to p2tech@great-lakes.net To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: (bcc: Bill Wilson) Subject: 33/50 Program Does anyone have any information or references that discuss the results of the 33/50 program that was established by the EPA? I'm interested both in the hard data-were emissions reduced by 50% by 1995?-and the overall success of the volutary program. Thanks for any help. ----------------------------------- Mike Schultz mschultz@chevax.ecs.umass.edu 159 Goessman Laboratory UMass-Amherst, Dept. of Chemical Engineering Amherst, MA 01003 Office phone: 413-577-0138