From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 07:47:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA01366 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:47:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:56:27 EST Subject: Re: chemical management system X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <57E8A3A1912@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:28:58 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, sean.mcguigan@state.ma.us, abuckley_eoea@state.ma.us, rreibstein_eoea@state.ma.us, avrichard@lucent.com, darveau.linda@epamail.epa.gov, 104633.477@compuserve.com (John Gihlsdorf), tom.burns@crbard.com, tgreiner@tiac.net, agmwen1@peabody.sct.ucarb.com, ctem@mnl.cyb-live.com, briana@loureiro.com (Brian Armet), rcushing@worldnet.com (Richard Cushing), FGK-Ma@msn.com (Frank Kissell), ssnyder@hadco.com (Stephen Synder), kteal@bigyellow.com (Ken Teal) From: janet clark Subject: chemical management system Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Janet asks: Hi all, A local company is seriously searching for contacts and case studies or examples of creation of a Chemical Management Sytem (all aspects). Any ideas? I am directing them toward Polaroid for its EARS program, but there are probably better cases for this medium-sized textile producer. She is not interested in software unless there is access to information about real experience with its application. Thanks. ********************************************************* I have a well written case study, with contacts, of a pharmaceutical company that used a software to track laboratory chemicals and improve efficiency. Add you phone, fax and address to your e-mail and I'll send you a copy. Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 09:42:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA08489 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 09:57:00 -0400 From: SUSAN WESTENBARGER To: WILSON.BILL@epamail.epa.gov, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: 33/50 Program -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech EPA's Pollution Prevention Information Clearinghouse no longer carries the 33/50 reports. When people enquire about this program, I direct them to the Partners for the Environment web site. The 33/50 page is at http://es.inel.gov/partners/3350/3350.html . Susan Westenbarger (GCI) PPIC Librarian 202-260-1758 >>> 07/31/97 07:22pm >>> There are EPA summary reports that cover both areas. Check first with the Pollution Prevention Information Clearinghouse at 202-260-1023. If no luck there, Susie Hazen ran the program. She's at 202-260-1024. ************************************************************************* Bill Wilson, EPA Region 9 Pollution Prevention Coordinator 75 Hawthorne Street, San Francisco CA 94105 phone 415.744.2192 fax 415.744.1796 email wilson.bill@epamail.epa.gov ************************************************************************* mschultz@chevax.ecs.umass.edu on 07/31/97 09:02:50 AM Please respond to p2tech@great-lakes.net To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: (bcc: Bill Wilson) Subject: 33/50 Program Does anyone have any information or references that discuss the results of the 33/50 program that was established by the EPA? I'm interested both in the hard data-were emissions reduced by 50% by 1995?-and the overall success of the volutary program. Thanks for any help. ----------------------------------- Mike Schultz mschultz@chevax.ecs.umass.edu 159 Goessman Laboratory UMass-Amherst, Dept. of Chemical Engineering Amherst, MA 01003 Office phone: 413-577-0138 From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 09:49:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA08820 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:49:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dina Li" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:01:02 EST Subject: Substitute for Wax Maskant in Plating X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Greetings! I'm trying to help the Air Force (AF) find an acceptable substitute for the use of a protective wax in plating and other metal finishing operations. Specifically, jet engine blade repairs involve injecting wax into the interior of the blade to protect it during two operations: 1) while the coating is being removed by acidic stripping, 2) prior to laser drilling to protect the blade while air holes are being drilled. After metal finishing, theAF typically uses perchloroethylene to remove the wax. In order to meet the EO 12856 goals, the AF is actively searching for a substitute for perc that could remove the wax. Does anyone know of a substitute for the wax that would be compatible with a less toxic/hazardous degreaser? The AF has tested and evaluated dozens of cleaners already (with no success) and is now looking more closely at physical cleaning methods. This issue applies to many engine parts not just the blades I mentioned above. I've left a message on the National Metal Finishing Resource Center already and searched EnviroSense. Thanks and have a good weekend! Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 11:12:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA12449 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:19:11 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:07:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Chemical Management Systems To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:19:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D164ZWYOG66J1 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;11911110807991/818844@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech From: R. Illig If you are including inventory control and site distribution systems, you may wish to check with GE Transportation Systems in Erie Pa (Grove City)...a rather large facility that developed what I understand to be a first rate system. Phone 814-875-5804. Joe Jasper was the facility contact but I understand he is no longer at the facility. Ric From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 12:00:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA14543 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:00:06 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 01 Aug 1997 12:06:31 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 01 Aug 1997 12:06:31 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0033F33E209873BB-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0033F33E209873BB Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Brian.W.Kavanah@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0033F33E209873BB*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Kavanah/g=Brian/i=W/"@MHS> Date: 01 Aug 1997 12:06:31 -0400 From: "Kavanah, Brian W" To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested) Subject: RE: Substitute for Wax Maskant in Plating MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dina Li wrote: Greetings! I'm trying to help the Air Force (AF) find an acceptable substitute for the use of a protective wax in plating and other metal finishing operations. Specifically, jet engine blade repairs involve injecting wax into the interior of the blade to protect it during two operations: 1) while the coating is being removed by acidic stripping, 2) prior to laser drilling to protect the blade while air holes are being drilled. After metal finishing, theAF typically uses perchloroethylene to remove the wax. In order to meet the EO 12856 goals, the AF is actively searching for a substitute for perc that could remove the wax. Does anyone know of a substitute for the wax that would be compatible with a less toxic/hazardous degreaser? The AF has tested and evaluated dozens of cleaners already (with no success) and is now looking more closely at physical cleaning methods. This issue applies to many engine parts not just the blades I mentioned above. I've left a message on the National Metal Finishing Resource Center already and searched EnviroSense. Thanks and have a good weekend! Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com I don't know of wax substitutes but a company here in Maine that manufactures jet engine components, and another that manufactures semi-conductors, uses the product listed below to remove plating wax. It is non hazardous and they are very satisfied with it. Bioact 280 Contact: Steve Hayes, Petroferm, (904) 277 -5229 They could also investigate the use of CO2 snow, or other CO2 methods. One contact I've talked to is: Dr. Robert Sherman Applied Surface Technologies (908) 464-6675 Brian Kavanah Maine DEP-SBTAP Staion 17 Augusta, ME 04333 (207) 287-6188 (207) 287-2814 FAX brian.w.kavanah@state.me.us ---------- From: Dina Li[SMTP:dli@lan828.ehsg.saic.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 1997 10:02 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Substitute for Wax Maskant in Plating Greetings! I'm trying to help the Air Force (AF) find an acceptable substitute for the use of a protective wax in plating and other metal finishing operations. Specifically, jet engine blade repairs involve injecting wax into the interior of the blade to protect it during two operations: 1) while the coating is being removed by acidic stripping, 2) prior to laser drilling to protect the blade while air holes are being drilled. After metal finishing, theAF typically uses perchloroethylene to remove the wax. In order to meet the EO 12856 goals, the AF is actively searching for a substitute for perc that could remove the wax. Does anyone know of a substitute for the wax that would be compatible with a less toxic/hazardous degreaser? The AF has tested and evaluated dozens of cleaners already (with no success) and is now looking more closely at physical cleaning methods. This issue applies to many engine parts not just the blades I mentioned above. I've left a message on the National Metal Finishing Resource Center already and searched EnviroSense. Thanks and have a good weekend! Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 12:06:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA14887 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:11:08 -0600 From: KENNY D STEWARD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: chemical management system -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_7D2FA1DC.04650B50" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_7D2FA1DC.04650B50 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Where is the company located? Are they willing to travel to see good, working systems? If so, I have a couple of ideas that I have seen that seem to work really well. Kenny >>> janet clark 07/31/97 12:28pm >>> Hi all, A local company is seriously searching for contacts and case studies or examples of creation of a Chemical Management Sytem (all aspects). Any ideas? I am directing them toward Polaroid for its EARS program, but there are probably better cases for this medium-sized textile producer. She is not interested in software unless there is access to information about real experience with its application. Thanks. --=_7D2FA1DC.04650B50 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from cedar.cic.net by interlock.pantex.com with SMTP id AA23508 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:44:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA11700 for p2tech-out; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970731142858.0074d79c@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Sender: owner-p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com List-Name: P2Tech Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:28:58 -0600 From: janet clark To: kteal%bigyellow.com@internet.pantex.com, 104633.477%compuserve.com@internet.pantex.com, tom.burns%crbard.com@internet.pantex.com, darveau.linda%epamail.epa.gov@internet.pantex.com, p2tech%great-lakes.net@internet.pantex.com, ssnyder%hadco.com@internet.pantex.com, briana%loureiro.com@internet.pantex.com, avrichard%lucent.com@internet.pantex.com, ctem%mnl.cyb-live.com@internet.pantex.com, FGK-Ma%msn.com@internet.pantex.com, agmwen1%peabody.sct.ucarb.com@internet.pantex.com, abuckley_eoea%state.ma.us@internet.pantex.com, rreibstein_eoea%state.ma.us@internet.pantex.com, sean.mcguigan%state.ma.us@internet.pantex.com, tgreiner%tiac.net@internet.pantex.com, clarkjan%turi.org@internet.pantex.com, rcushing%worldnet.com@internet.pantex.com Subject: chemical management system Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, A local company is seriously searching for contacts and case studies or examples of creation of a Chemical Management Sytem (all aspects). Any ideas? I am directing them toward Polaroid for its EARS program, but there are probably better cases for this medium-sized textile producer. She is not interested in software unless there is access to information about real experience with its application. Thanks. --=_7D2FA1DC.04650B50-- From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 13:19:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA18000 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BC9E65.4F7FEAC0.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Substitute for Wax Maskant in Plating Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:25:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dina, The best substitute I know of for wax maskant in plating operations is to change the wax from a solvent based system to water-based. Once you begin to use water-based maskants, then various water-based systems can be used to remove the maskant. Several water-based maskants are available and more being developed. Let me know if you have problems identifying suppliers - I will dig through my files to find some. Allan Butler Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com -----Original Message----- From: Dina Li [SMTP:dli@lan828.ehsg.saic.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 1997 8:01 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Substitute for Wax Maskant in Plating Greetings! I'm trying to help the Air Force (AF) find an acceptable substitute for the use of a protective wax in plating and other metal finishing operations. Specifically, jet engine blade repairs involve injecting wax into the interior of the blade to protect it during two operations: 1) while the coating is being removed by acidic stripping, 2) prior to laser drilling to protect the blade while air holes are being drilled. After metal finishing, theAF typically uses perchloroethylene to remove the wax. In order to meet the EO 12856 goals, the AF is actively searching for a substitute for perc that could remove the wax. Does anyone know of a substitute for the wax that would be compatible with a less toxic/hazardous degreaser? The AF has tested and evaluated dozens of cleaners already (with no success) and is now looking more closely at physical cleaning methods. This issue applies to many engine parts not just the blades I mentioned above. I've left a message on the National Metal Finishing Resource Center already and searched EnviroSense. Thanks and have a good weekend! Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 14:11:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA19983 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF016701E@pasnt08.jacobs.com> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'Irwin, Eva (ORNL)'" Cc: "'P2Tech'" Subject: Sodium Hypochlorite Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:21:32 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > Gail/Eva, > > I posted this question to my boss and he replied that chlorine should > be scrubbed with sodium thiosulfate (Na2S2O3), not with NaOH. Not > only will you avoid NaOCl generation in the scrubber, but you will > also promote scrubbing efficiency. This leads to less chlorine > released through the stack. > > Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > > From: exi@ornl.gov[SMTP:exi@ornl.gov] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 1997 10:55AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Cc: ss9@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov > Subject: Request > > > Sodium hypochlorite is a by product of the lithium metal production > process. Lithium chloride is the feed material for lithium metal > production. The lithium chloride is disassociated in an electrolytic > cell. The chlorine gas generated is scrubbed with sodium hydroxide > and produces sodium hypochlorite. > > If you have any information to share on ways to reduce sodium > hypchlorite waste stream generation, how NaOCL is being handled at > other sites, or potential users of sodium hypochlorite, please contact > Gail James at 423-241-2330 or send your response to Eva Irwin. (see > information listed below) > > > Eva Irwin > Y-12 Pollution Prevention Program > Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. > P. O. Box 2009 > Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8222 > exi@ornl.gov > (423) 241-2581 phone > (423) 241-2857 fax > > Make Less Mess in the Process! > > > From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 15:38:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA23443 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970801153918.0069bef4@informinc.informinc.org> X-Sender: dorfman@informinc.informinc.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 15:39:18 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Mark Dorfman Subject: Re: 33/50 Program In-Reply-To: <01ILW62TFRCY9LVHGK@chevax.ecs.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech INFORM's Toxics Watch 95 report contains a chapter evaluating the 33/50 program. This preliminary evaluation of the program was conducted using 1992 TRI data (the most current TRI data available at the time). The study used a matched-pair analysis of facilities in and out of the program following their progress from 1998 through 1992. At 04:02 PM 7/31/97 +0000, you wrote: >Does anyone have any information or references that discuss the >results of the 33/50 program that was established by the EPA? I'm >interested both in the hard data-were emissions reduced by 50% by >1995?-and the overall success of the volutary program. > >Thanks for any help. > >----------------------------------- >Mike Schultz >mschultz@chevax.ecs.umass.edu >159 Goessman Laboratory >UMass-Amherst, Dept. of Chemical Engineering >Amherst, MA 01003 >Office phone: 413-577-0138 > Mark Dorfman Senior Research Associate INFORM, Inc. 120 Wall Street, 16th Floor New York, NY 10005-4001 212-361-2400 xt 229, Fax: 2412 dorfman@informinc.org www.informinc.org From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 18:49:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA29379 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E26946.1234@navix.net> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:55:02 -0500 From: Brian Wanzenried X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-Navix (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Request References: <3.0.32.19970731135546.006f9afc@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Eva Irwin wrote: > > Sodium hypochlorite is a by product of the lithium metal production > process. Lithium chloride is the feed material for lithium metal > production. The lithium chloride is disassociated in an electrolytic > cell. > The chlorine gas generated is scrubbed with sodium hydroxide and > produces > sodium hypochlorite. I have seen a similar situation except for magnesium production from magnesium chloride. Unfortunately, the chlorine gas streams are normally too dilute for purification. Purification would require a large amount of cooling and would not be economical at this time (i.e. because of the low price of chlorine). Besides, the main use for chlorine is water treatment where it is converted to hypochlorite anyway. The sodium hydroxide reaction with chlorine is the exact same reaction used by household bleach manufacturers. Many bleach manufacturers are chlorine suppliers. They take back chlorine cylinders with product in them and they bubble the chlorine through sodium hydroxide. The household bleach suppliers are one potential market for your sodium hypochlorite, but that would depend on the concentration and purity. If its concentration does not work well for bleach, its other common use is as a disinfectant. The use of sodium thiosulfate in place of sodium hydroxide is also possible, but in the end you are left without a useful product. Brian Wanzenried > If you have any information to share on ways to reduce sodium > hypchlorite > waste stream generation, how NaOCL is being handled at other sites, or > > potential users of sodium hypochlorite, please contact Gail James at > 423-241-2330 or send your response to Eva Irwin. (see information > listed below) > > Eva Irwin > Y-12 Pollution Prevention Program > Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. > P. O. Box 2009 > Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8222 > exi@ornl.gov > (423) 241-2581 phone > (423) 241-2857 fax > > Make Less Mess in the Process! From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 1 19:47:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA00644 for p2tech-out; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BC9E9B.6D8FEE80.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: alternative to chromium-based cleaning solvent for a lab Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:53:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Lois, I know it sounds strange, but many of the labs I've visited that required high levels of cleanliness have installed normal home (i.e. whirlpool) dish washers and have connected the dish washer to a source of De-Ionized water. As for the "soap", I can't remember, but I can direct you to a lab that virtually eliminated using CFCCs for cleaning of test glassware using a standard dish washer. Allan Butler Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com -----Original Message----- From: Lois_Epstein@edf.org [SMTP:Lois_Epstein@edf.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 12:53 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: alternative to chromium-based cleaning solvent for a lab Does anyone know of an effective alternative for cleaning glassware in a wastewater treatment plant laboratory? I understand a product called No-Cromix was once available, but it seems to be difficult to find nowadays. Any information on an alternative product or on where/how to purchase No-Cromix would be greatly appreciated. Lois N. Epstein, P.E. Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) Lois_Epstein@edf.org From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 4 14:32:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA15551 for p2tech-out; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708041837.NAA18225@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:40:16 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Rock vs. Brick X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Which home building material would be environmentally preferable: 1. Locally quarried, blasted and cut limestone, or 2. Manufactured (baked) bricks? Has anyone seen a life cycle comparison of these two materials? Are there better, more durable house siding materials available which are better environmentally? Rebecca Leighton Katers Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 4 14:54:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA16613 for p2tech-out; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 15:01:52 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 14:45:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" Subject: Regulatory To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net Cc: Robert Small , Marjorie Hughes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 15:01:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: E443ZWYRLH44J X400-Mts-Identifier: [;25105140807991/822489@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear P2 Techers, An office colleague asked me to post the following questions about air quality related regulations: Does any federal, state and / or local governmental agencies have pollution prevention language in their existing air quality regulations? If so, which agencies and regulations? I would appreciate receiveing names, addresses, email addresses, and telephone numbers of the P2-Tech subscribers that respond to my questions. I thank you in advance for your willingness to assist me in this "P2-fact finding" mission. You are welcome to post answers on P2Tech or reply directly to Robert Small at 717-705-0372 or email at small.robert@a.1.dep.state.pa.us If your regulations are on the web, please forward the URL address as well. Again thanks. Jo Anne From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 4 17:18:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA22900 for p2tech-out; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 16:24:30 -0400 From: Albert Tieche To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Rock vs. Brick -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Which home building material would be environmentally preferable: 1. Locally quarried, blasted and cut limestone, or 2. Manufactured (baked) bricks? Has anyone seen a life cycle comparison of these two materials? Are there better, more durable house siding materials available which are better environmentally? ********************************************************************** I have not seen a life cycle comparison between these two but I suspect that a good case could be made for either. I doubt there is a clear cut answer as every region and every application would have different pros and cons to be weighed. You may have to compare for your particular application. Quarries aren't necessarily desirable neighbors but neither are clay mining operations for brick making. Energy consumed in each process would be a significant factor. Some brick contains recycled material. A life cycle analysis may be complicated by the fact that if properly built and maintained, the life of a structure made from either product would be measured in centuries. And in the case of obsolescence, each material has reuse potential. Good luck! Albert U. Tieche tieche@utk.edu 615-532-8657 fax-615-532-4937 226 Capitol Blvd., Suite 606 Nashville, TN 37219-1804 From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 4 19:20:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA26364 for p2tech-out; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 19:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 16:27:50 -0700 From: NANCY HELM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: MSW in Slovak Republic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I've been invited to participate in a waste management training workshop in Slovakia (used to be part of Czechoslovakia, now independent) at the end of September. This is one of several workshops that EPA is presenting for and with the Slovak Environmental Agency (SEA). Our audience will be employees of the SEA and some local environmental agencies. The topic I am to cover is municipal solid waste, especially source reduction, source separation, recycling, and household hazardous waste. My questions for P2Tech are: 1. Is there anyone among us who has been in Slovakia in recent years who can give me some idea of what their MSW and HHW might look like? 2. Can anyone suggest good resource materials on getting started with programs for MSW source reduction, source separation, recycling, or HHW education and collection? I have most of the EPA documents, any others? 3. Anyone know of good case studies, especially from Europe, dealing with development of programs for any of these topics? Thanks for your help! Nancy Helm EPA Region 10 Seattle, WA helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov 206 553-8659 From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 07:28:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA10533 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:28:10 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:37:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199708051137.EAA02979@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Regulatory To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I received a blank message on this item. I have been receiving blank messages from most of the Pennsylvania contingent. Have others been having this problem? Bob Pojasek rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 08:53:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA12997 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:52:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Williams" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:02:11 EST Subject: Re: Roof Cleaning X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <17C7260047@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I asked a similar question earlier this year of the Cooperative Extension Service in NC, and I was given a couple of options: 1) Chlorine bleach & water 1 cup bleach/gallon of water. Apply the solution, let soak a few minutes, brush lightly (careful not to strip the grit off) and rinse. 2) Trisodium phosphate 4-6 Tbsp/gal H20. Use the same application method as above. Using either approach, be sure to cover plants that may be exposed and capture the gutter drainage if possible to prevent damage to plants and grass. I was cautioned about pressure cleaning because of potential damage to the grit on the shingle. If you choose this approach use as little pressure as possible. Also be careful walking on the roof. This stuff gets extremely slippery when wet, particularly after you apply bleach. Does it seem to anyone else that roof fungus has gotten worse in the last few years? It does to me. By the way I tried method 1 above and it worked fair, not great. The stain is still there, but it's not spreading like before. David Williams NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6527 Fax: (919) 715-6794 e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 08:56:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA13173 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <016B8214BAECD011846200805F0576E104A0@WWW.DELMEP.ORG> From: Judith Jordan To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Regulatory Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:02:53 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Bob, I have also been receiving all blank messages from the Pa folks for about two or three weeks, I guess. Judith H. Jordan Environmental Specialist Delaware Manufacturing Alliance (302) 452-2527 jjordan@delmep.org > ---------- > From: rpojasek@sprynet.com[SMTP:rpojasek@sprynet.com] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 7:37 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Regulatory > > I received a blank message on this item. I have been receiving blank > messages > from most of the Pennsylvania contingent. Have others been having > this problem? > > Bob Pojasek > rpojasek@sprynet.com > From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 09:15:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA13890 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3573B2EE143FD011952300805FD6D44322F382@MCCLELLAN-EMH2.ARMY.MIL> From: "THOMAS, HARRY" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Regulatory Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:26:19 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Yes, I have been receiving blank messages also. HARRY THOMAS Directorate of Environment Fort McClellan, AL thomash@mcclellan-emh2.army.mil > ---------- > From: rpojasek@sprynet.com[SMTP:rpojasek@sprynet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 6:37 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Regulatory > > I received a blank message on this item. I have been receiving blank > messages > from most of the Pennsylvania contingent. Have others been having > this problem? > > Bob Pojasek > rpojasek@sprynet.com > From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 09:16:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA13955 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970805092737.006c0ef4@pswp.mail.yale.edu> X-Sender: pswp@pswp.mail.yale.edu Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:27:37 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Reid Lifset Subject: Re: Rock vs. Brick In-Reply-To: <199708041837.NAA18225@mail.execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Take a look at an LCA by Raffaele Scialdoni on ceramic tiles, published in the Workshop Proceedings of from the First Annual International Workshop on Product-Oriented Environmental Policy, convened by the Dutch Ministry of Housing, Physical Planning and the Environment, in the Hague, Sept 30- Oct 1, 1993. It won't give you a definitive answer by any means, but it will provide some clues. It can probably be obtained directly from the Dutch Ministry. You could also try contacting Scialdoni directly at: Raffaele Scialdoni Italian Agency for New Technology, Energy & Environment Department of the Environment via Vitaliano Brancati n. 48 I-00144 Rome Italy +39-6-5007-2077 (tel) +39-6-5007-2048 (tel) Good luck. Reid Lifset Editor Journal of Industrial Ecology At 01:40 PM 8/4/97 +0000, you wrote: >Which home building material would be >environmentally preferable: > >1. Locally quarried, blasted and cut limestone, > >or > >2. Manufactured (baked) bricks? > >Has anyone seen a life cycle comparison of these >two materials? > >Are there better, more durable house siding >materials available which are better >environmentally? > >Rebecca Leighton Katers >Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin >2220 Deckner Avenue >Green Bay, WI 54302 >Phone: 414-468-4243 >Fax: 414-468-1234 >E-mail: cwac@execpc.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------- Program on Solid Waste Policy School of Forestry and Environmental Studies Yale University 205 Prospect Street New Haven,CT 06511-2106 USA 203-432-3253 (telephone) 203-432-5912 (fax) pswp@yale.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 09:22:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA14168 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970805093304.0073ebe0@pswp.mail.yale.edu> X-Sender: pswp@pswp.mail.yale.edu Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:33:04 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Reid Lifset Subject: Re: MSW in Slovak Republic In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Try contacting John Dernbach who did some work under the auspices of the Environmental Law Institute (I think) in Czechoslovakia on solid waste: John C. Dernbach Associate Professor of Law Widener University School of Law 3800 Vartan Way/P.O. Box 69382 Harrisburg, PA 17106-9382 717-541-1933 (tel) 717-541-3966 (fax) john.c.dernbach@law.widener.edu At 04:27 PM 8/4/97 -0700, you wrote: >I've been invited to participate in a waste >management training workshop in Slovakia (used >to be part of Czechoslovakia, now independent) at >the end of September. This is one of several >workshops that EPA is presenting for and with the >Slovak Environmental Agency (SEA). Our >audience will be employees of the SEA and some >local environmental agencies. The topic I am to >cover is municipal solid waste, especially source >reduction, source separation, recycling, and >household hazardous waste. My questions for >P2Tech are: > >1. Is there anyone among us who has been in >Slovakia in recent years who can give me some >idea of what their MSW and HHW might look like? > >2. Can anyone suggest good resource materials >on getting started with programs for MSW source >reduction, source separation, recycling, or HHW >education and collection? I have most of the EPA >documents, any others? > >3. Anyone know of good case studies, especially >from Europe, dealing with development of >programs for any of these topics? > >Thanks for your help! > >Nancy Helm >EPA Region 10 >Seattle, WA >helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov >206 553-8659 > > ---------------------------------------------------------- Program on Solid Waste Policy School of Forestry and Environmental Studies Yale University 205 Prospect Street New Haven,CT 06511-2106 USA 203-432-3253 (telephone) 203-432-5912 (fax) pswp@yale.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 09:51:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA15303 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." , "Mantooth, Jim G." , "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." , "Scheffler, Peter K." Cc: "Williams, Ronald J." Subject: RE: Roof Cleaning Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:59:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I heard of something that I tried that is supposed to prevent moss and fungus. I applied a thin strip of zinc paint (available at farmer's co-op but is fairly expensive by the gallon) along peak of roof (I applied to lower part of ridge vent where it would not show but is exposed to run off from top of ridge vent). I have heard that tacking a strip of galvanized metal along peak of roof also works. The theory is that the minute amount of zinc that washes off the paint or strip is enough to discourage growth of moss or fungus. I have only used this on my house for a couple of years since I had the moss and fungus removed (at fair expense) so I do not know if it is working yet (I can see no obvious growth yet). This is only anecdotal but is a source reduction option if it works. >---------- >From: David Williams[SMTP:David_Williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 10:02 AM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Re: Roof Cleaning > >I asked a similar question earlier this year of the Cooperative >Extension Service in NC, and I was given a couple of options: > >1) Chlorine bleach & water 1 cup bleach/gallon of water. Apply the >solution, let soak a few minutes, brush lightly (careful not to strip >the grit off) and rinse. > >2) Trisodium phosphate 4-6 Tbsp/gal H20. Use the same application >method as above. > >Using either approach, be sure to cover plants that may be exposed >and capture the gutter drainage if possible to prevent damage to >plants and grass. > >I was cautioned about pressure cleaning because of potential damage >to the grit on the shingle. If you choose this approach use as >little pressure as possible. > >Also be careful walking on the roof. This stuff gets extremely >slippery when wet, particularly after you apply bleach. > >Does it seem to anyone else that roof fungus has gotten worse in the >last few years? It does to me. > >By the way I tried method 1 above and it worked fair, not great. The >stain is still there, but it's not spreading like before. > >David Williams >NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance >P.O. Box 29569 >Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 >Tel: (919) 715-6527 >Fax: (919) 715-6794 >e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us >Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ > From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 09:56:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA15574 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <297F903A019F59D9@tellus.org> Date: 05 Aug 97 09:54:06 EST From: Diana Zinkl To: uunet!great-lakes.net!p2tech@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Regulatory X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I've received several blank messages in recent weeks. Diana Zinkl Tellus Institute 11 Arlington St. Boston, MA 02116 tel: (617) 266-5400, fax: (617) 266-8303 dzinkl@tellus.org, http://www.tellus.org (note change from 'tellus.com'. '.com' is still usable) From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 10:09:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA16200 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <33E73382.615C@glvt.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 16:06:58 +0200 From: hans schnitzer Organization: tu-graz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: MSW in Slovak Republic References: <3.0.1.32.19970805093304.0073ebe0@pswp.mail.yale.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Reid Lifset wrote: > > Try contacting John Dernbach who did some work under the auspices of the > Environmental Law Institute (I think) in Czechoslovakia on solid waste: > > John C. Dernbach > Associate Professor of Law > Widener University School of Law > 3800 Vartan Way/P.O. Box 69382 > Harrisburg, PA 17106-9382 > 717-541-1933 (tel) > 717-541-3966 (fax) > john.c.dernbach@law.widener.edu > > At 04:27 PM 8/4/97 -0700, you wrote: > >I've been invited to participate in a waste > >management training workshop in Slovakia (used > >to be part of Czechoslovakia, now independent) at > >the end of September. This is one of several > >workshops that EPA is presenting for and with the > >Slovak Environmental Agency (SEA). Our > >audience will be employees of the SEA and some > >local environmental agencies. The topic I am to > >cover is municipal solid waste, especially source > >reduction, source separation, recycling, and > >household hazardous waste. My questions for > >P2Tech are: > > > >1. Is there anyone among us who has been in > >Slovakia in recent years who can give me some > >idea of what their MSW and HHW might look like? > > > >2. Can anyone suggest good resource materials > >on getting started with programs for MSW source > >reduction, source separation, recycling, or HHW > >education and collection? I have most of the EPA > >documents, any others? > > > >3. Anyone know of good case studies, especially > >from Europe, dealing with development of > >programs for any of these topics? > > > >Thanks for your help! > > > >Nancy Helm > >EPA Region 10 > >Seattle, WA > >helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov > >206 553-8659 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Program on Solid Waste Policy > School of Forestry and Environmental Studies > Yale University > 205 Prospect Street > New Haven,CT 06511-2106 > USA > 203-432-3253 (telephone) > 203-432-5912 (fax) > pswp@yale.edu The STENUM Company in Graz / Austria helped to establish the Slovak Cleaner Production Centre for UNIDO. They did a series of case studies in some cities (Martin, ..) and several branches. I forwarded your request to them, but you also can contact them at STENUM@STENUM.CO.AT and ask for Jan Sage or Hannes Fresner. There is now also a Clenaer production Centre in Bratislava and in Praha, where you could reveive information. As far as I know, STENUM transvated several manuals into Chech and/or Slovak language. Hans Schnitzer, Austria From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 11:38:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA20384 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 10:45:12 -0600 From: keri luly To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Regulatory -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I'm having the same problem. Keri Luly, Illinois EPA epa8604@epa.state.il.us >>> 08/05/97 05:37am >>> I received a blank message on this item. I have been receiving blank messages from most of the Pennsylvania contingent. Have others been having this problem? Bob Pojasek rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 11:39:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA20433 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Williams" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:48:24 EST Subject: RE: Roof Cleaning X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <1A8CAB620B@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks Steve for the reminder. I've also read that a strip of copper will serve the same purpose as a strip of zinc. - David > From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." > To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" > Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , > "Phillips, Joseph W." > , > "Mantooth, Jim G." , > "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." , > "Scheffler, Peter K." > Cc: "Williams, Ronald J." > Subject: RE: Roof Cleaning > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:59:14 -0400 > Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > I heard of something that I tried that is supposed to prevent moss and > fungus. I applied a thin strip of zinc paint (available at farmer's > co-op but is fairly expensive by the gallon) along peak of roof (I > applied to lower part of ridge vent where it would not show but is > exposed to run off from top of ridge vent). I have heard that tacking a > strip of galvanized metal along peak of roof also works. > > The theory is that the minute amount of zinc that washes off the paint > or strip is enough to discourage growth of moss or fungus. I have only > used this on my house for a couple of years since I had the moss and > fungus removed (at fair expense) so I do not know if it is working yet > (I can see no obvious growth yet). > > This is only anecdotal but is a source reduction option if it works. > > >---------- > >From: David Williams[SMTP:David_Williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us] > >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 10:02 AM > >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > >Subject: Re: Roof Cleaning > > > >I asked a similar question earlier this year of the Cooperative > >Extension Service in NC, and I was given a couple of options: > > > >1) Chlorine bleach & water 1 cup bleach/gallon of water. Apply the > >solution, let soak a few minutes, brush lightly (careful not to strip > >the grit off) and rinse. > > > >2) Trisodium phosphate 4-6 Tbsp/gal H20. Use the same application > >method as above. > > > >Using either approach, be sure to cover plants that may be exposed > >and capture the gutter drainage if possible to prevent damage to > >plants and grass. > > > >I was cautioned about pressure cleaning because of potential damage > >to the grit on the shingle. If you choose this approach use as > >little pressure as possible. > > > >Also be careful walking on the roof. This stuff gets extremely > >slippery when wet, particularly after you apply bleach. > > > >Does it seem to anyone else that roof fungus has gotten worse in the > >last few years? It does to me. > > > >By the way I tried method 1 above and it worked fair, not great. The > >stain is still there, but it's not spreading like before. > > > >David Williams > >NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance > >P.O. Box 29569 > >Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 > >Tel: (919) 715-6527 > >Fax: (919) 715-6794 > >e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us > >Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ > > > David Williams NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6527 Fax: (919) 715-6794 e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 13:12:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA24518 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF0167020@pasnt08.jacobs.com> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'P2Tech'" Subject: blank messages Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:22:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have been receiving blank messages too. Actually, they are not blank. The body of the text can be found in the header. Mike.callahan@jacobs.com From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 15:09:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA29273 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:04:05 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:13:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199708051913.MAA11455@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: blank messages To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I looked in the header but was not able to retrieve them. The Pennsylvania folks have something that they need a systems person to take a look at because they all seem to be effected. Bob Pojasek rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 17:08:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA04389 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D0192A973@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Baskir, Jesse N." To: "'P2Tech'" Subject: FW: MSW in Slovak Republic Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:14:15 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > > > >2. Can anyone suggest good resource materials > >on getting started with programs for MSW source > >reduction, source separation, recycling, or HHW > >education and collection? I have most of the EPA > >documents, any others? > > >Thanks for your help! > > > >Nancy Helm > >EPA Region 10 > >Seattle, WA > >helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov > >206 553-8659 > > The U.S. EPA is currently funding work to apply life cycle management to evaluate alternative strategies for integrated municipal solid waste management. Data are being developed to compare the relative cost, energy consumption, air emissions, water releases, and solid waste of different strategies based on the site-specific quantity and composition of waste in a particular community. Although this effort is focusing on providing information and tools for U.S. municipalities, it does provide useful resources for general studies of municipal solid waste management. The biggest differences would probably be in the energy and transportation sectors, but most data used in the EPA study can be overriden by regional or site specific data if it's available. I suggest that you visit the project web site at http://www.epa.gov/docs/crb/apb/msw-lca.htm#msw-lca for information. -Keith Weitz Research Triangle Institute kaw@rti.org From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 5 17:14:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA04722 for p2tech-out; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708052122.RAA18549@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: newmoa@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: newmoa@tiac.net (newmoa) Subject: Re: blank messages Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi Just wanted to say that not everybody is having this blank message problem. I was able to read the message that started this discussion - it came through looking like all my p2tech messages do - nothing abnormal. So I'm not sure where the problem is. Jennifer Griffith NEWMOA >I looked in the header but was not able to retrieve them. The Pennsylvania >folks have something that they need a systems person to take a look at because >they all seem to be effected. > >Bob Pojasek >rpojasek@sprynet.com > > Jennifer Griffith NEWMOA 129 Portland Street, 6th Floor Boston, MA 02114 (617) 367-8558, ext. 303 (617) 367-0449 (FAX) newmoa@tiac.net From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 09:33:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA25574 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D018DBA12@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Pettigrew, Deirdre" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: EMS's and Environmental Aspect Identification Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:38:47 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > To all: > With the increased focus on environmental management systems and ISO > 14001 coming into practice, we are interested in determining how > effective an EMS will be for pollution prevention. But we don't want > to wait two years for the system to be put in place and produce > results that we can measure. We are starting with the premise that > the environmental results you get from an EMS are only as good as the > environmental aspects the EMS identifies. Having said this, 1) we'd > like feedback on this premise and 2) we'd like to hear from anyone > who has had experience implementing an EMS , their own or otherwise, > or has looked at environmental aspects as a means to develop an EMS. > > Here are some specific questions relating to environmental aspects > that we'd like to know more about from those of you who have > implemented an EMS: > > Did you use a consultant or specific software tool to enable the > development of the EMS? > How were the list of environmental aspects generated? > Were categories of aspects utilized or was the inventory created > by analyzing each separate process? > How many different general aspect categories were addressed? > Which ones? > Were certain categories of aspects given priority? > If so, how were they prioritized? > Once a list of aspects was generated and prioritized, was there > a specific methodology for selecting targets and goals for that issue? > What were the main factors influencing how targets and goals > were set around the aspects? > What are examples of the types of targets and goals set around > each aspect/impact category? > > Thanks for your help. Please respond to the listserver, or directly to > Deirdre Pettigrew (919) 541- 7404 or Melissa Malkin (919) 541-6154 at > Research Triangle Institute. > > Deirdre Pettigrew > Research Triangle Institute > Center for Environmental Analysis > 3040 Cornwallis Rd. > Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 > (919) 541-7404 fax: 7155 > pettigrew@rti.org > From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 09:51:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA26513 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970806140152.009578b4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 09:01:52 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: Re: Messages Problems Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have done some investigating into the blank message problem and cannot find anything on our end. The messages are coming through the list server software intact. We are not having any problems receiving or distributing messages from Pennsylvania. Not being a computer programmer, it is difficult for me to diagnose these kinds of things; however, I would guess it is a user end problem rather than a PA or list server problem. I have asked the person who manages the hardware for the list servers if he has any further insight and will pass on what I find out. I apologize for any inconvenience, but I cannot identify a problem on either PA or our end to fix. If you are having a problem, please let me know which software package you are using. Perhaps that will shed some light on the matter. Thanks, Lisa **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 10:41:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA28897 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 10:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708061450.JAA06817@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:53:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Messages Problems X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We have also received numerous blank messages recently. (We use Pegasus.) Hope you can solve the mystery! Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 09:01:52 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: Re: Messages Problems Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net I have done some investigating into the blank message problem and cannot find anything on our end. The messages are coming through the list server software intact. We are not having any problems receiving or distributing messages from Pennsylvania. Not being a computer programmer, it is difficult for me to diagnose these kinds of things; however, I would guess it is a user end problem rather than a PA or list server problem. I have asked the person who manages the hardware for the list servers if he has any further insight and will pass on what I find out. I apologize for any inconvenience, but I cannot identify a problem on either PA or our end to fix. If you are having a problem, please let me know which software package you are using. Perhaps that will shed some light on the matter. Thanks, Lisa **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** Rebecca Leighton Katers Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 13:49:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA07056 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E8D857.6F6D@max.state.ia.us> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 13:02:31 -0700 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Messages Problems References: <2.2.32.19970806140152.009578b4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have been receiving blank messages. I use Netscape Navigator List Manager wrote: > > I have done some investigating into the blank message problem and cannot > find anything on our end. The messages are coming through the list server > software intact. We are not having any problems receiving or distributing > messages from Pennsylvania. Not being a computer programmer, it is > difficult for me to diagnose these kinds of things; however, I would guess > it is a user end problem rather than a PA or list server problem. I have > asked the person who manages the hardware for the list servers if he has any > further insight and will pass on what I find out. > > I apologize for any inconvenience, but I cannot identify a problem on either > PA or our end to fix. If you are having a problem, please let me know which > software package you are using. Perhaps that will shed some light on the > matter. > > Thanks, > Lisa > **************************************************************************** > Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu > List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) > IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) > One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 > **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 14:14:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA08142 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 14:22:57 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 14:10:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Reclamation of OIL: Onsite To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 14:22:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D158ZWYTKJK8P X400-Mts-Identifier: [;75224160807991/826939@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech FROM: R. Illig AT: illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us One & All, A facility recently visited is rolling aluminum. Oil (I'm told parafin) is used as a coolant. The oil gets recirculated and filtered while in use, but once a year is shipped off-site to a reclaimer in Indiana who processes the oil and returns it to the facility. Does anyone have experience with equipment or systems needed to perform on-site reclamation? Can it be performed economically (in general)? I assume the oil (parafin) is too costly to routinely replace. Any information on the process demands, or processing of the oil (parafin) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ric From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 15:12:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA10462 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3573B2EE143FD011952300805FD6D443239083@MCCLELLAN-EMH2.ARMY.MIL> From: "THOMAS, HARRY" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Messages Problems Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:19:25 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have been receiving blank messages and I use Microsoft Explorer. HARRY THOMAS Phone (205)-848-7454 Fax 5517 Fax/Modem 7451 DSN 865 E-mail address: thomash@mcclellan-emh2.army.mil > ------- > From: cbates@max.state.ia.us[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 3:02 PM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Messages Problems > > I have been receiving blank messages. I use Netscape Navigator > > > List Manager wrote: > > > > I have done some investigating into the blank message problem and > cannot > > find anything on our end. The messages are coming through the list > server > > software intact. We are not having any problems receiving or > distributing > > messages from Pennsylvania. Not being a computer programmer, it is > > difficult for me to diagnose these kinds of things; however, I would > guess > > it is a user end problem rather than a PA or list server problem. I > have > > asked the person who manages the hardware for the list servers if he > has any > > further insight and will pass on what I find out. > > > > I apologize for any inconvenience, but I cannot identify a problem > on either > > PA or our end to fix. If you are having a problem, please let me > know which > > software package you are using. Perhaps that will shed some light > on the > > matter. > > > > Thanks, > > Lisa > > > ********************************************************************** > ****** > > Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu > > List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) > > IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) > > One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 > > > ********************************************************************** > ****** > From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 15:18:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA10926 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3573B2EE143FD011952300805FD6D443239087@MCCLELLAN-EMH2.ARMY.MIL> From: "THOMAS, HARRY" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Messages Problems Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:28:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech For those with Microsoft Exchange getting the blank messages. Go to File, Properties, and then Headers. Scroll down to read the body of the message. HARRY THOMAS Fort McClellan Directorate of Environment Phone (205)-848-7454 Fax 5517 Fax/Modem 7451 DSN 865 E-mail address: thomash@mcclellan-emh2.army.mil > ---------- > From: cbates@max.state.ia.us[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 3:02 PM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Messages Problems > > I have been receiving blank messages. I use Netscape Navigator > > > List Manager wrote: > > > > I have done some investigating into the blank message problem and > cannot > > find anything on our end. The messages are coming through the list > server > > software intact. We are not having any problems receiving or > distributing > > messages from Pennsylvania. Not being a computer programmer, it is > > difficult for me to diagnose these kinds of things; however, I would > guess > > it is a user end problem rather than a PA or list server problem. I > have > > asked the person who manages the hardware for the list servers if he > has any > > further insight and will pass on what I find out. > > > > I apologize for any inconvenience, but I cannot identify a problem > on either > > PA or our end to fix. If you are having a problem, please let me > know which > > software package you are using. Perhaps that will shed some light > on the > > matter. > > > > Thanks, > > Lisa > > > ********************************************************************** > ****** > > Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu > > List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) > > IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) > > One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 > > > ********************************************************************** > ****** > From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 15:30:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA11544 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:30:02 -0400 (EDT) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <33E8D2FB.5CD1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 12:39:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Messages Problems References: <3573B2EE143FD011952300805FD6D443239087@MCCLELLAN-EMH2.ARMY.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech THOMAS, HARRY wrote: Using Netscape Navigator 3.0, I was able to read a blank message by selecting View|Document Source. The message is in there somewhere. Something is wrong, though, as this is a new problem. Gerard Forgnone Plastic Oil Products BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz > For those with Microsoft Exchange getting the blank messages. Go to > File, Properties, and then Headers. Scroll down to read the body of the > message. > HARRY THOMAS > Fort McClellan Directorate of Environment > Phone (205)-848-7454 Fax 5517 Fax/Modem 7451 DSN 865 > E-mail address: thomash@mcclellan-emh2.army.mil > > ---------- > > From: cbates@max.state.ia.us[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 1997 3:02 PM > > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > Subject: Re: Messages Problems > > > > I have been receiving blank messages. I use Netscape Navigator > > > > > > List Manager wrote: > > > > > > I have done some investigating into the blank message problem and > > cannot > > > find anything on our end. The messages are coming through the list > > server > > > software intact. We are not having any problems receiving or > > distributing > > > messages from Pennsylvania. Not being a computer programmer, it is > > > difficult for me to diagnose these kinds of things; however, I would > > guess > > > it is a user end problem rather than a PA or list server problem. I > > have > > > asked the person who manages the hardware for the list servers if he > > has any > > > further insight and will pass on what I find out. > > > > > > I apologize for any inconvenience, but I cannot identify a problem > > on either > > > PA or our end to fix. If you are having a problem, please let me > > know which > > > software package you are using. Perhaps that will shed some light > > on the > > > matter. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Lisa > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > ****** > > > Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu > > > List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) > > > IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) > > > One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > ****** > > From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 16:01:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA12883 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 16:12:38 -0400 From: Art Coleman To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Blank/Obscure Messages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This is in regarding to the recent problem some P2 tech subscribers are having with messages. The e-mail system we use in my office is known as GroupWise 5 (Version 5.1, Novell). I ocassionally receive a blank in the "message" window but the text is actually hidden in the "header" in the "attach [ment]" window. Previously, when I attempted to extract this info, I often got an illegible or "cryptic" message. The message was made readible by the following procedures: go to Change Viewer (click the mouse [on the right side] near the bottom (gray area) of the window. Go to Document/Text viewer. Of course, these changes depend on the type of system the user has. Art Coleman Ohio EPA Division of Hazardous Waste Management From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 16:24:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA13939 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 16:35:17 -0400 From: Art Coleman To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Message Problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech For the folk that are having the message problem, this may be pushing it but as a crude self-check for transmitting system integrity, try sending a test Internet message to yourself or a colleague. This may determine whether the problem is external or internal. Art Coleman Ohio EPA From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 16:52:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA14939 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970806210251.0090a8e4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 16:02:51 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Lisa C. Morrison" Subject: Re: Message Problems Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks for all of the advice regarding the weird messages. The expert on this subject, Ron Emaus from GLIN, has identified the problem and we have relayed the information the people who can, hopefully, fix it. I apologize for the inconvenience. (You don't need to send any more messages.) Thanks, Lisa *************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison 217/244-6061 (v) Technical / Information Specialist 217/333-8944 (f) IL Waste Management and Research Cnt. morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 *************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 17:07:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA15497 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:19:52 -0600 From: Terrie Wierenga Subject: Re: Messages Problems To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <33E8EA77.C971DC@cc.usu.edu> Organization: USDA-ARS PPRL MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <2.2.32.19970806140152.009578b4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> <33E8D857.6F6D@max.state.ia.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I use Netscape and have experienced no problems. I've also viewed the messages throughout the last couple of days with Microsoft, Pegasus, and Eudora with no problems. Terrie **** Terrie Wierenga USDA-ARS Poisonous Plant Research Lab, Logan, Utah v: (801) 752-2941 f: (801) 753-5681 e: terrie@cc.usu.edu From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 17:10:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA15668 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:10:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dina Li" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:22:40 EST Subject: Need compliance assistance programs contact info X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: <14098C952D3@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I am forwarding this message on behalf of my colleague, Lisa Larimer of SAIC. Please respond directly to Lisa at the contact info below. I am trying to compile a list of compliance assistance programs and contacts for an EPA project. I have already checked the National Pollution Prevention Roundtable's web site and have spoken to EPA's Office of Compliance Assistance without much success. I am looking for both federal and state programs across the US, plus any other applicable programs (local, industry-specific, etc.). I have a preliminary deadline this Friday (8/8/97), so the sooner you could send me information the better. I will be happy to continue receiving info after that date, however. I am looking for program name, address, contact person & phone number, if possible. Thanks, Lisa Larimer SAIC Phone: 703-318-4566 Fax: 703-736-0826 or 703-709-1044 E-mail: llarimer@lan828.ehsg.saic.com Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 17:28:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA16334 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <33E8EDD5.5606@glvt.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 23:34:13 +0200 From: hans schnitzer Organization: tu-graz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Messages Problems References: <2.2.32.19970806140152.009578b4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> <33E8D857.6F6D@max.state.ia.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Cherrie Bates wrote: > > I have been receiving blank messages. I use Netscape Navigator > > List Manager wrote: > > > > I have done some investigating into the blank message problem and cannot > > find anything on our end. The messages are coming through the list server > > software intact. We are not having any problems receiving or distributing > > messages from Pennsylvania. Not being a computer programmer, it is > > difficult for me to diagnose these kinds of things; however, I would guess > > it is a user end problem rather than a PA or list server problem. I have > > asked the person who manages the hardware for the list servers if he has any > > further insight and will pass on what I find out. > > > > I apologize for any inconvenience, but I cannot identify a problem on either > > PA or our end to fix. If you are having a problem, please let me know which > > software package you are using. Perhaps that will shed some light on the > > matter. > > > > Thanks, > > Lisa > > **************************************************************************** > > Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu > > List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) > > IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) > > One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 > > **************************************************************************** You should be able to read the message if you go to OPTIONS, SHOW HEADERS, ALL Hope it works, Hans Schnitzer From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 17:35:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA16599 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: 06 Aug 97 17:41:42 EST From: Diana Zinkl To: uunet!great-lakes.net!p2tech@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Reclamation of OIL: Onsite X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Another blank message for me. Diana Zinkl Tellus Institute 11 Arlington St. Boston, MA 02116 tel: (617) 266-5400, fax: (617) 266-8303 dzinkl@tellus.org, http://www.tellus.org (note change from 'tellus.com'. '.com' is still usable) From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 18:46:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA19208 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 18:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:53:22 -0700 From: ja.engelcox@ccmail.pnl.gov (Jill A Engel-Cox) Subject: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <"0020B5EE."@ccmail.pnl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: cc:Mail note part Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech All... I recently proposed to teach a 1-credit-hour seminar at our branch campus of Washington State University on "History of Environmental Science through Literature", with lots of reading (6-8 books) and class discussion. This came about from reading several environmental books (Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, etc) lately and thinking about how these books affected regulations and political and social processes. I wish I had read more in the past as they gave me new perspective in my job as a Pollution Prevention professional. So, I would like your suggestions of what books you think that environmental professionals should read and have knowledge of for their profession. The goal is to give students a background in which to apply their technical knowledge on the job and in their coursework. Thank you! Jill Engel-Cox Pollution Prevention Coordinator Pacific Northwest National Laboratory ja.engelcox@pnl.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 20:21:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA22194 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:21:06 -0400 (EDT) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199708070029.RAA00903@netcom4.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 17:29:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <"0020B5EE."@ccmail.pnl.gov> from "Jill A Engel-Cox" at Aug 6, 97 03:53:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech "The 29th Day" is more about overpopulation than industrial pollutants, but you might want to take a look at it. There's a book called "Our Precarious Habitat: 15 Years Later" that you might be interested in. It's by Melvin Benarde and the publisher is Wiley. (Don't take this as my endorsement of Benarde's opinions.) The book is written almost as a rebuttal of all the "apocalyptic" environmental books of the 70s -- like "Silent Spring." It might make for some really interesting discussion... =============================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 U.S.A. 1-818-878-0454 rosselot@netcom.com =============================== From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 20:45:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA22895 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 17:49:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <9707068709.AA870915304@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Jill -- I think this course is a great idea. Would strongly recommend the following. Some are classics, some are anything but, but I think all are entertaining, thought provoking, and cover the spectrum of environemntal issues from eastern/urban toxic concerns to the western US issues of land, water, and wilderness. The ones with ** are more likely to have been influential in the way people think -- the others are merely entertaining and topical: ** Ecotopia, by Ernest Callenbach, Banyan Tree Books, 1975 (Fictional account which lays good groundwork for the concept of bioregionalism) ** Anything by Edward Abbey, but my personal favorite is "The Monkeywrench Gang" (mostly because I did a little monkeywrenching myself in younger days). For a course with lots of reading assignments, "Desert Solitaire" might be more appropriate. This Other Eden, by Ben Elton. Hilarious (ala Douglas Adams) recent book published by Pocket Books, 1993. About a future where the market-based approach to environmental protection comes to mean a huge market in selling protection FROM the environment. Zodiac, by Neal Stephenson (author of Cyber Sci-fi classic, Snowcrash) Bantam 1995. Very technically-literate story of toxic waste in Boston Harbor. Well written fiction (but not quite fictional enough, unfortunately). Coyotes and Town Dogs (history of Earth First). Susan Zakin, 1993 (Viking Press). Also, for completeness (in terms of following the intellectual slug trail of ideas) you should be sure to include readings from ** A. Leopold, Thoreau, Audobon, et al. I'll leave it to others to recommend specific cites from these folks. Can loan personal copies of any of the above if needed. Scott rs_butner@pnl.gov ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 8/6/97 7:01 PM I recently proposed to teach a 1-credit-hour seminar at our branch campus of Washington State University on "History of Environmental Science through Literature", with lots of reading (6-8 books) and class discussion. This came about from reading several environmental books (Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, etc) lately and thinking about how these books affected regulations and political and social processes. I wish I had read more in the past as they gave me new perspective in my job as a Pollution Prevention professional. So, I would like your suggestions of what books you think that environmental professionals should read and have knowledge of for their profession. The goal is to give students a background in which to apply their technical knowledge on the job and in their coursework. Thank you! Jill Engel-Cox Pollution Prevention Coordinator Pacific Northwest National Laboratory ja.engelcox@pnl.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 20:57:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA23299 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 20:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 18:04:44 -0700 From: NANCY HELM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I agree that this sounds like a great idea! I hope you'll share your reading list, and perhaps some feedback from your class, with P2Tech. I think everyone -- especially all environmental professionals -- needs to read Aldo Leapold's "Sand County Almanac". A book with a similar flavor, but much more recent and with a NW theme, is "Wintergreen" by Robert Michael Pyle. It's about the Willapa Hills in SW Washington. Nancy Helm EPA Region 10 Seattle, WA helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 22:20:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id WAA25407 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:20:37 -0400 (EDT) MR-Received: by mta FREIA.MUAS; Relayed; Thu, 07 Aug 1997 03:28:28 -0800 Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 03:28:28 -0800 From: HENRY BOYTER Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. In-reply-to: <"0020B5EE."@ccmail.pnl.gov> To: p2tech Message-id: <8528281906081997/A39055/FREIA/11B834DC1A00*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11B834DC1A00 X400-MTS-identifier: [;8528281906081997/A39055/FREIA] Hop-count: 0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech "Environmental Overkill - Whatever Happened to Common Sense" by Dixie Lee Ray with Lou Guzzo published by Harper Perennial in 1993. Henry Boyter, Jr., PhD Senior Scientist/Director of EH&S Earth Tech - Charlottesville 1115 5th St. SW Charlottesville, VA 22902 HBoyter@am.earthtech.com 804-977-1498 Ext 20 The opinions expressed are those of Dr. Boyter and are not necessarily those of EarthTech. "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied,-- "If you seek for Eldorado!" **************************************************** I recently proposed to teach a 1-credit-hour seminar at our branch campus of Washington State University on "History of Environmental Science through Literature", with lots of reading (6-8 books) and class discussion. This came about from reading several environmental books (Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, etc) lately and thinking about how these books affected regulations and political and social processes. I wish I had read more in the past as they gave me new perspective in my job as a Pollution Prevention professional. So, I would like your suggestions of what books you think that environmental professionals should read and have knowledge of for their profession. The goal is to give students a background in which to apply their technical knowledge on the job and in their coursework. Thank you! Jill Engel-Cox Pollution Prevention Coordinator Pacific Northwest National Laboratory ja.engelcox@pnl.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 6 23:35:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id XAA27680 for p2tech-out; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 23:35:24 -0400 (EDT) MR-Received: by mta FREIA.MUAS; Relayed; Thu, 07 Aug 1997 04:43:24 -0800 Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 04:43:24 -0800 From: HENRY BOYTER Subject: Re: P2 literature - Retry In-reply-to: <8528281906081997/A39055/FREIA/11B834DC1A00@freia.earthtech.com> To: p2tech Message-id: <0424432006081997/A39299/FREIA/11B8352B1500*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11B8352B1500 X400-MTS-identifier: [;0424432006081997/A39299/FREIA] Hop-count: 0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Sorry for the cut off message. "Environmental Overkill - Whatever Happened To Common Sense" by Dixie Lee Ray with Lou Guzzo published by Harper Perennial in 1993. Henry Boyter, Jr., PhD Senior Scientist/Director of EH&S Earth Tech - Charlottesville 1115 5th St. SW Charlottesville, VA 22902 HBoyter@am.earthtech.com 804-977-1498 Ext 20 The opinions expressed are those of Dr. Boyter and are not necessarily those of EarthTech. "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied,-- "If you seek for Eldorado!" **************************************************** I recently proposed to teach a 1-credit-hour seminar at our branch campus of Washington State University on "History of Environmental Science through Literature", with lots of reading (6-8 books) and class discussion. This came about from reading several environmental books (Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, etc) lately and thinking about how these books affected regulations and political and social processes. I wish I had read more in the past as they gave me new perspective in my job as a Pollution Prevention professional. So, I would like your suggestions of what books you think that environmental professionals should read and have knowledge of for their profession. The goal is to give students a background in which to apply their technical knowledge on the job and in their coursework. Thank you! Jill Engel-Cox Pollution Prevention Coordinator Pacific Northwest National Laboratory ja.engelcox@pnl.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 06:51:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id GAA09781 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 06:51:24 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 04:00:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199708071100.EAA21930@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In-Reply-To: <"0020B5EE."@ccmail.pnl.gov> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This message came up blank on my screen and it is NOT from Pennsylvania! It's spreading! Bob Pojasek rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 09:36:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA15615 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 08:44:39 -0500 From: THELMA CODINA To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Need compliance assistance programs contact info -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech EPCRA Section 313 (commonly known as TRI) Form R Reporting - Thelma Codina. Region 5 conducts at least six free compliance assistance workshops. >>> Dina Li 08/06/97 05:22pm >>> I am forwarding this message on behalf of my colleague, Lisa Larimer of SAIC. Please respond directly to Lisa at the contact info below. I am trying to compile a list of compliance assistance programs and contacts for an EPA project. I have already checked the National Pollution Prevention Roundtable's web site and have spoken to EPA's Office of Compliance Assistance without much success. I am looking for both federal and state programs across the US, plus any other applicable programs (local, industry-specific, etc.). I have a preliminary deadline this Friday (8/8/97), so the sooner you could send me information the better. I will be happy to continue receiving info after that date, however. I am looking for program name, address, contact person & phone number, if possible. Thanks, Lisa Larimer SAIC Phone: 703-318-4566 Fax: 703-736-0826 or 703-709-1044 E-mail: llarimer@lan828.ehsg.saic.com Dina Li Sr. Pollution Prevention Specialist Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) Pollution Prevention Division (MS-4-3) 11251 Roger Bacon Dr, Reston, VA 20190 (703) 318-4603 fax (703) 736-0826 or (703) 709-1044 dina.w.li@cpmx.saic.com From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 09:43:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA16013 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708071343.JAA16013@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: robert hitch Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech See if you can find a copy of "Conservation and You." by Allen Spain Hitch (my Great Uncle). This was one of the earliest (circ. '40) text books I have seen on the topic. At 03:53 PM 8/6/97 -0700, you wrote: > > I recently proposed to teach a 1-credit-hour seminar at our branch > campus of Washington State University on "History of Environmental > Science through Literature", with lots of reading (6-8 books) and > class discussion. This came about from reading several environmental > books (Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, etc) lately and thinking about > how these books affected regulations and political and social > processes. I wish I had read more in the past as they gave me new > perspective in my job as a Pollution Prevention professional. > > So, I would like your suggestions of what books you think that > environmental professionals should read and have knowledge of for > their profession. The goal is to give students a background in which > to apply their technical knowledge on the job and in their coursework. > > Thank you! > > Jill Engel-Cox > Pollution Prevention Coordinator > Pacific Northwest National Laboratory > ja.engelcox@pnl.gov > > > Bob Hitch From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 09:57:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA16696 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:56:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Finresorce@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970807100554_-1204472005@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Here is an additional suggestion for your consideration. I think this book should be broadly distributed/discussed. "Our Ecological Footprint, Reducing Human Impact on the Earth" Authors: Mathis Wackernagel and William Rees Publisher: New Society Publishers, Box 189, Gabriola Island, B.C. Canada V0R 1X0 Charlie Davis Finite Resources, Inc. 803 River Road Austin, Texas 78734 512-263-5053, fax 2269 From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 10:03:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA17051 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:11:57 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 09:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Reclamation of Oil: Onsite To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:11:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D122ZWYUEKMOJ X400-Mts-Identifier: [;75110170807991/828494@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One & All, I'm sending this a second time as some individuals did not receive the first mailing. Also, to see if corrections have mended the "missing message body" problem. A recently visited facility rolls aluminum coils. Oil (parafin) is used as a coolant. The oil is recirculated through an onsite filtering system but once a year is shipped to a reclaimer in Indiana who processes the oil and returns it to the facility for reuse. Does anyone have experience with equipment or systems needed to perform on-site reclamation of the oil? Can this be done economically (in general)? I assume the oil (parafin) is too costly to routinely replace. Anyone have info on process demands, better coolants, or other P2 opportunities?? R. Illig illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 10:11:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA17535 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:11:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 7-Aug-1997 10:32:58 -0400; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <24CCE95301501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Stripping/Removal of Coatings From: dionne@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Dionne, Denis) Date: 07 Aug 97 10:28:17 EDT References: <24CCE95302501C76@-SMF-> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi, Does anyone know of good information sources for stripping or coating removal technologies or chemistries for use with Thermal Spray , PVD, HVOF, Plasma Sprayed coatings? Electrolytic, Chemical and mechanical stripping methods are apparently available but I have yet to find much information. (Already searched Envirosense, NMFRC, Metal-Finishing.com, NIST... and proceeding to a dialog search). Thanks! (hope this won't come out blank... I'm in PA...) Denis Dionne Technology Analyst, Concurrent Technologies Corporation E-Mail: dionne@ctc.com http://www.ctc.com Phone: (814) 269-2739 Fax: (814) 269-6218 From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 10:51:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA19327 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33E9E1CF.7FCB@hevanet.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 07:55:11 -0700 From: Margaret Reich Nover Organization: Portland's Pollution Prevention Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. References: <199708071343.JAA16013@cedar.cic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > At 03:53 PM 8/6/97 -0700, you wrote: > > > > I recently proposed to teach a 1-credit-hour seminar at our branch > > campus of Washington State University on "History of Environmental > > Science through Literature", with lots of reading (6-8 books) and > > class discussion. This came about from reading several environmental > > books (Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, etc) lately and thinking about > > how these books affected regulations and political and social > > processes. I wish I had read more in the past as they gave me new > > perspective in my job as a Pollution Prevention professional. > > > > So, I would like your suggestions of what books you think that > > environmental professionals should read and have knowledge of for > > their profession. The goal is to give students a background in which > > to apply their technical knowledge on the job and in their coursework. > > > > Thank you! > > > > Jill Engel-Cox > > Pollution Prevention Coordinator > > Pacific Northwest National Laboratory > > ja.engelcox@pnl.gov > > > > > >Island Press is a publisher that offers many book with an environmental and/or social emphasis. Not sure of their address/phone off the top of my head... They produce a listing of books available, and have a mailing list providing interested persons with the most current books available. A bookstore or perhaps net surfing should produce that information. An enlightening book, for me, which talks about sustainability in a practical context, and DEFINATELY has p2 inferrences is "Ancient Futures" by Helena Norberg Hodge. >From a practioner standpoint, RAND has produced "Linking Sustainable Community Activities to Pollution Prevention: A sourcebook" by Beth Lachman. RANDs URL is http://www.rand.org. I recently took a class at Lewis and Clark College in Portland titled "Envisioning a Sustainable Society". The professor, Dr. Greg Smith, is a wonderful resource (and person!). He may be reached at: gasmith@lclark.edu Margaret Nover From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 10:54:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA19502 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 09:31:35 -0500 From: Thomas Vinson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Earth in the Balance by Senator Al Gore gives an interesting overview of environmental problems from a public policy perspective. In addition to being informative, this book reads like an adventure novel, starting out on the deck of a ship stranded in dried up lake bottom and going on to submarines exploring the arctic ice caps. Thomas Vinson, Engineering Specialist Industrial Pollution Prevention, Office of Pollution Prevention and Recycling Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission MC-112, PO BOX 13087, Austin, TX 78711-3087 512/239-3182 >>> Robert S Butner 08/06/97 04:49pm >>> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 8/6/97 7:01 PM I recently proposed to teach a 1-credit-hour seminar at our branch campus of Washington State University on "History of Environmental Science through Literature", with lots of reading (6-8 books) and class discussion. This came about from reading several environmental books (Limits to Growth, Silent Spring, etc) lately and thinking about how these books affected regulations and political and social processes. I wish I had read more in the past as they gave me new perspective in my job as a Pollution Prevention professional. So, I would like your suggestions of what books you think that environmental professionals should read and have knowledge of for their profession. The goal is to give students a background in which to apply their technical knowledge on the job and in their coursework. Thank you! Jill Engel-Cox Pollution Prevention Coordinator Pacific Northwest National Laboratory ja.engelcox@pnl.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 11:05:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA20068 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3573B2EE143FD011952300805FD6D4432390D9@MCCLELLAN-EMH2.ARMY.MIL> From: "THOMAS, HARRY" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Reclamation of Oil: Onsite Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:16:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The message I received was blank. I was able to find the body in the header. HARRY THOMAS Fort McClellan Directorate of Environment Building 141A, 13th Ave ATTN: ATZN-EM (THOMAS) Fort McClellan, AL 36206 Phone (205)-848-7454 Fax 5517 Fax/Modem 7451 DSN 865 E-mail address: thomash@mcclellan-emh2.army.mil ATTITUDE is EVERYTHING > ---------- > From: Richard Illig (717) > 327-3568[SMTP:ILLIG.RICHARD@a1.pader.gov] > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 1997 9:59 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Reclamation of Oil: Onsite > > From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 11:10:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA20319 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:16:49 -0600 From: Emmett George To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Here is a book worth adding: "Small is Beautiful" - Economics as if people mattered. By E.F. Schumaker -Worthwhile reading. Schumaker's book favors sensible approaches in sustainable development, production and resource use in emerging industries. Emmett George Graduate Intern Office of Pollution Prevention Illinois E.P.A. From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 14:00:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA27727 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:07:52 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:07:03 -0500 (EST) From: Deirdre Lehman Subject: FWD: wastewater p2 regulations To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_ZeX25H09wcZb2tUMb+8YbQ]" Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:07:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D156ZWYUK67Z1 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;25704170807991/829166@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech --Boundary_[ID_ZeX25H09wcZb2tUMb+8YbQ] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --Boundary_[ID_ZeX25H09wcZb2tUMb+8YbQ] Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:18:50 EST From: Deirdre Lehman Subject: FWD: wastewater p2 regulations To: Remote Addressee Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_FzDh5uyehNP/om1GRLjIuw]" Delivery-date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:19:00 EST Posting-date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:19:00 EST Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential A1-type: MAIL --Boundary_[ID_FzDh5uyehNP/om1GRLjIuw] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --Boundary_[ID_FzDh5uyehNP/om1GRLjIuw] Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:42:53 EST From: Deirdre Lehman Subject: wastewater p2 regulations To: Remote Addressee Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Delivery-date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:58:00 EST Posting-date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:58:00 EST Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential A1-type: MAIL To p2 reg subscribers involved in wastewater regulatory development: I'm working on integrating P2 concepts/philosophy/ideas into existing water treatment and water supply regulations and would be interested in what other states have done in this area. Regulations of particular interest are: 1. antidegradation/special protection water regs 2. wasteload management regulations (planning to prevent/reduce STP overloads) 3. erosion and sedimentation/stormwater control (nonpoint sources) 4. wetlands protection/encroachments 5. NPDES permitting 6. floodplain mgt. 7. safe drinking water If your state has developed innovative pollution prevention language and have incorporated this language into your regulations, I'd love to see it. You may email me at: Lehman.Deirdre@a1.dep.state.pa.us or send me stuff at Office of Pollution Prevention PA Department of Environmental Protection Rachel Carson State Office Building PO Box 8772 Harrisburg, PA 17105-8772 my number is 717-783-9981 If I'm not there, ask for my voice mail. Thanks! --Boundary_[ID_FzDh5uyehNP/om1GRLjIuw]-- --Boundary_[ID_ZeX25H09wcZb2tUMb+8YbQ]-- From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 14:06:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA28012 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:15:16 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:08:25 -0500 (EST) From: Deirdre Lehman Subject: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 14:15:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D160ZWYUKD30A X400-Mts-Identifier: [;61514170807991/829184@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi_ In an effort to begin pollution prevention integration efforts in the area of wastewater mgt. in Pennsylvania, I have two requests for information. 1. Has any state or locale developed a PR piece or fact sheet for the POTW audience on what POTWs can do in promoting pollution prevention efforts? 2. Is anyone in any state or locale (I was given the state of Maryland as a possibility) aware of a local POTW ordinance that requires or encourages industrial discharges to the POTW to address pollution prevention opportunities or to have a pollution prevention plan? Please respond to Dee Lehman, Office of Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance, PA DEP, PO Box 8772, Harrisburg, PA 17105 or (717)772-5160 directly or through P2tech. Thanks! From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 14:13:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA28253 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:13:09 -0400 (EDT) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <33EA1297.ECD@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 11:23:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 on TV! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi Fellow P2 Techies! I just wanted to let you know that our pollution prevention tool, BOB, the Bottom Of the Bottle Oil Recovery System, will be featured on "Steals and Deals," the CNBC cable program on Friday August 8. The times will be 7:30 pm Eastern, with a repeat Saturday morning, August 9 at 1 am Eastern. Right now, we are sponsoring a product test through the California Conservation Corps Used Oil Education Program. The CCC is distributing BOB to service stations and DIY's to see how much oil we can keep out of our landfills, and then arranging to have the well-drained used motor oil bottles recycled. Today, the coordinator informed me that they found a county-wide recycler that will pick up this plastic and other recyclables from businesses that use BOB to get the oil out of the plastic. What I would like to offer other P2 people is the opportunity to do test programs using this product. If you would like to recycle used motor oil bottles, but don't because of the oil, or you have problems with all that oil in your system, we will donate up to 100 of these tools to your recycling program on a free trial basis. There are lots of people in the recycling world who are very interested in what comes out of these pilot programs, as used motor oil bottles are usually excluded from recycling programs. All we ask in return is data from the test, and publishing of the test results. Let me know if you or your community are interested. This is a limited time offer, since we can't afford to give them away to everyone who wants them. To see what BOB looks like, visit BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz or let me know, and I'll send you info and samples. Send me an email or call me! Gerard Forgnone, Owner Plastic Oil Products 4869 S. Bradley Rd. Ste 18B-258 Santa Maria, CA 93455 805-937-3050 g-whiz@ix.netcom.com -- BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz G-Whiz Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 BOB product review: http://www.atving.com/editor/techtips/bob.htm BOB Testimonials: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277/testim.htm From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 15:14:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA01380 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:13:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Lois_Epstein@edf.org X-Lotus-FromDomain: EDF To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <852564EC.006946C1.00@notesgw.edf.org> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:22:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Since I neglected to respond to the April-May discussion on this issue, this inquiry gives me a new opportunity to promote some earlier work. Steve Skavroneck (formerly with the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage District) and I prepared a paper that I presented at the Water Environment Federation annual conference in October 1995 (WEFTEC '95) entitled "Promoting Pollution Prevention Among Dischargers to POTWs." If you are interested in a copy of this paper, please email my assistant -- monique@edf.org with your address. See also the December 1995 issue of Water Environment and Technology for a summary of the paper. Lois N. Epstein, P.E. Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) Lois_Epstein@edf.org From: LEHMAN.DEIRDRE@a1.pader.gov on 08/07/97 03:08 PM AST Please respond to p2tech@great-lakes.net To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: (bcc: Lois Epstein) Subject: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances Hi_ In an effort to begin pollution prevention integration efforts in the area of wastewater mgt. in Pennsylvania, I have two requests for information. 1. Has any state or locale developed a PR piece or fact sheet for the POTW audience on what POTWs can do in promoting pollution prevention efforts? 2. Is anyone in any state or locale (I was given the state of Maryland as a possibility) aware of a local POTW ordinance that requires or encourages industrial discharges to the POTW to address pollution prevention opportunities or to have a pollution prevention plan? Please respond to Dee Lehman, Office of Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance, PA DEP, PO Box 8772, Harrisburg, PA 17105 or (717)772-5160 directly or through P2tech. Thanks! From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 17:41:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA12221 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF0167025@pasnt08.jacobs.com> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'P2Tech'" Subject: Early Literature Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:51:53 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One reference I found to be very enlightening was "The Tragedy of Waste," written by Stuart Chase in the late 1920s. While the focus of his work is mainly on the avoidance of waste associated with inefficient labor management and raw material utilization, his basic points apply to all wastes. Thru standardization and better management practices, many wastes can be avoided. I'm sure this is still true today. He also presented a very interesting concept of "wealth" versus "illth." Illth can be thought of as goods produced for the sake of over-consumption. By calculating how much money went into the production of illth, he was able to show that this waste was more than enough to provide all the poor in the US with a decent level of living. I know this work is not "P2" per se, but it is interesting to see how people have looked at similar problems in the past. Scientific management, value engineering, energy conservation, and now P2 all share a common approach to the same problem: identifying ways to do more with less. And speaking of less, I better sign off before I ramble on. Mike.callahan@jacobs.com From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 7 19:35:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA15255 for p2tech-out; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <105FB79C40EFD011B92800401C608838030FE0@DEQXCHG5> From: FITZGERALD Marianne To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:28:35 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Oregon has developed a "P2 for POTWs" resource manual and five industry-specific brochures on preventing water pollution. Our POTWs are very interested in doing more in this area, and the manual includes both suggestions on what POTWs could do to promote P2, and suggestions for working with the five industry groups. We borrowed a lot from the San Francisco Bay area's efforts, and much of this information is in the manual. I'll put a copy in the mail for you. Marianne Fitzgerald P2 Coordinator Oregon DEQ (503) 229-5946 fitzgerald.marianne@deq.state.or.us > ---------- > From: Deirdre Lehman[SMTP:LEHMAN.DEIRDRE@a1.pader.gov] > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 1997 12:08 PM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances > > Hi_ In an effort to begin pollution prevention integration efforts in > the area > of wastewater mgt. in Pennsylvania, I have two requests for > information. > > 1. Has any state or locale developed a PR piece or fact sheet for the > POTW > audience on what POTWs can do in promoting pollution prevention > efforts? > > 2. Is anyone in any state or locale (I was given the state of Maryland > as a > possibility) aware of a local POTW ordinance that requires or > encourages > industrial discharges to the POTW to address pollution prevention > opportunities > or to have a pollution prevention plan? > > Please respond to Dee Lehman, Office of Pollution Prevention and > Compliance > Assistance, PA DEP, PO Box 8772, Harrisburg, PA 17105 or (717)772-5160 > directly > or through P2tech. Thanks! > From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 05:49:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id FAA26347 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:48:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "HANS SCHNITZER" Organization: Technische Universitaet Graz To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:57:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: European Network on Closed Water Cycles In-Reply-To: <852564EC.006946C1.00@notesgw.edf.org> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: <1EEC9303789@glvt.tu-graz.ac.at> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We are just at the moment discussing a network on "Closed Water Cycles in Industrial Application" in Europe. It shall collect industrial, research and institutional experiences to facilitate closing of water cycles and solve problems which currently are major roadblocks (costs, technical, organisational, ...). Are there any experiences in the US? We are primarely looking for discussion groups, cooperations, joint research efforts, manufacturers of equipment, consultants, zero discharge initiatives, closed cycle initiatives, (national, statewide, regional) programmes, formal or informal networks. Hope to hear from you! Hans Schnitzer From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 08:08:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA28755 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Douglas W. Kievit-Kylar" Organization: VT Agency of Natural Resources To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 08:16:35 EST Subject: RE: Guide & Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech From: FITZGERALD Marianne To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:28:35 -0700 Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Marianne, Having sat through a 4 hour meeting until 11pm last night on the sighting of a biosolids (sludge) composting facility in my community, and hearing about metals contamination, spore generation, and the like I would most sincerely appreciate receiving your "P2 for POTWs" resource manual and five industry-specific brochures on preventing water pollution. I heard enough about silver (in particular) and other contaminants in the POTW wastestream that it reminded me of the importance of working with POTW operators to help them work upstream to prevent such contamination of sewage and wastewater coming to them. Thanks! Doug Kievit-Kylar, Pollution Prevention Planner Vermont Agency of Natural Resources Environmental Assistance Division 103 South Main Street Waterbury VT 05671-0411 phone: (802) 241-3628 FAX: (802) 241-3273 e-mail: dougkk@wasteman.anr.state.vt.us "Smart people solve problems. Geniuses prevent them." -- The wisdom of Albert Einstein -- From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 09:07:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA00617 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:07:27 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 08 Aug 1997 09:13:52 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 08 Aug 1997 09:13:52 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 0026533EB1B90199-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 0026533EB1B90199 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Brian.W.Kavanah@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"0026533EB1B90199*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Kavanah/g=Brian/i=W/"@MHS> Date: 08 Aug 1997 09:13:52 -0400 From: "Kavanah, Brian W" To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested) Subject: RE: Stripping/Removal of Coatings MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech You wrote: Does anyone know of good information sources for stripping or coating removal technologies or chemistries for use with Thermal Spray , PVD, HVOF, Plasma Sprayed coatings? Electrolytic, Chemical and mechanical stripping methods are apparently available but I have yet to find much information. (Already searched Envirosense, NMFRC, Metal-Finishing.com, NIST... and proceeding to a dialog search). There is an article in this months issue of "Parts Cleaning" on Coating Removal Options. Top options covered are flashlamp/carbon dioxide pellet blasting, laser paint stripping, soft chemicals/high pressure water blasting, and wheat starch dry media blasting. You can subscribe to parts cleaning at: Witter Publishing Corp. 84 Park Ave. Flemington, NJ 08822 (908) 788-0343 Brian Kavanah Maine DEP Station 17 Augusta, ME 04333 207 287 6188 207 287-2814 brian.w.kavanah@state.me.us ---------- From: (Dionne, Denis)[SMTP:dionne@ndec-fs1.ctc.com] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 1997 10:29 AM To: p2tech Subject: Stripping/Removal of Coatings Hi, Does anyone know of good information sources for stripping or coating removal technologies or chemistries for use with Thermal Spray , PVD, HVOF, Plasma Sprayed coatings? Electrolytic, Chemical and mechanical stripping methods are apparently available but I have yet to find much information. (Already searched Envirosense, NMFRC, Metal-Finishing.com, NIST... and proceeding to a dialog search). Thanks! (hope this won't come out blank... I'm in PA...) Denis Dionne Technology Analyst, Concurrent Technologies Corporation E-Mail: dionne@ctc.com http://www.ctc.com Phone: (814) 269-2739 Fax: (814) 269-6218 From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 11:39:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA07436 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:38:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 97 11:50:20 EDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: re: RE: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances X-Incognito-SN: 1000 X-Incognito-Version: 4.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Marianne, those sound great! Would you please send copies to me? Thanks! Andrea Andrea Kreiner Farrell Pollution Prevention Program - DNREC 89 Kings Hwy Dover, DE 19901 "FITZGERALD Marianne" Wrote: | | Oregon has developed a "P2 for POTWs" resource manual and | five | industry-specific brochures on preventing water pollution. | Our POTWs | are very interested in doing more in this area, and the | manual includes | both suggestions on what POTWs could do to promote P2, and | suggestions | for working with the five industry groups. We borrowed a | lot from the | San Francisco Bay area's efforts, and much of this | information is in the | manual. I'll put a copy in the mail for you. | | Marianne Fitzgerald | P2 Coordinator | Oregon DEQ | (503) 229-5946 | fitzgerald.marianne@deq.state.or.us | | | > ---------- | > From: Deirdre | Lehman[SMTP:LEHMAN.DEIRDRE@a1.pader.gov] | > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 1997 12:08 PM | > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net | > Subject: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances | > | > Hi_ In an effort to begin pollution prevention | integration efforts in | > the area | > of wastewater mgt. in Pennsylvania, I have two requests | for | > information. | > | > 1. Has any state or locale developed a PR piece or fact | sheet for the | > POTW | > audience on what POTWs can do in promoting pollution | prevention | > efforts? | > | > 2. Is anyone in any state or locale (I was given the | state of Maryland | > as a | > possibility) aware of a local POTW ordinance that | requires or | > encourages | > industrial discharges to the POTW to address pollution | prevention | > opportunities | > or to have a pollution prevention plan? | > | > Please respond to Dee Lehman, Office of Pollution | Prevention and | > Compliance | > Assistance, PA DEP, PO Box 8772, Harrisburg, PA 17105 or | (717)772-5160 | > directly | > or through P2tech. Thanks! | > | Andrea Kreiner Farrell Delaware Pollution Prevention Program 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 fax afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 12:02:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA10337 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 10:07:42 -0600 From: Frances Bernards To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Clinical Laboratory P2 -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Try contacting: Bernard Brady WA Dept. of Ecology Air Quality Program Olympia, WA 360-407-6803 bbra461@ecy.wa.gov he has done some work in the area you're interested in-- Frances Bernards Utah Small Business Assistance Program (801) 536-4056 fbernard@DEQ.state.ut.us >>> 07/28/97 08:41am >>> Dear P2Tech Subscribers: I am seeking information on pollution prevention case studies or information that would be pertinent to a commercial clinical (medical testing) laboratory. I'm familiar with the wide range of information available for academic laboratories and research labs, but a lot of that doesn't apply to a clinical lab. Also, I already have the Massachusetts Mercury case study for a clinical lab. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------- Jancie Hatcher Information Manager GA Pollution Prevention Asst. Div. 7 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive Suite 450 Atlanta, GA 30334 (404) 651-5120 FAX (404) 651-5130 From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 12:58:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA13054 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 97 13:09:09 -24000 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: (R. Thomas Griffin) Subject: re: RE: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We'd also like to get a copy of those, Marianne. We're doing some local government P2 workshops, and they sound perfect for our pre-treatment sessions! Tom Griffin Va DEQ OPP 629 East Main St, 5th Floor Richmond, VA 23219 (804)698-4545 From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 16:31:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA21562 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:38:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mohammad O. Shafie" Message-Id: <199708082038.QAA19910@vulcan.spd.louisville.edu> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Discontinue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: 2YNIlmzECmGUMGA0kfQX1Q== Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech To Whom It Concerns: I would like to be removed from this list server. And I do not want to receive any more e-mail. From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 8 17:05:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA22999 for p2tech-out; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 17:05:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Magnuson.Leif@epamail.epa.gov Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 13:58:07 -0700 Subject: Re: MSW in Slovak Republic To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <882564ED.00729FBF.00@RTNTEMAIL.RTRT2144.EPA.GOV> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Nancy, check with David Boon DFE-PETE Program Director, Dave has worked in eastern europe for years and just got back from meetings there with env. agencies/university programs. Dave's info is: tel (303) 404-5259, email: fr_dave@cccs.cccoes.edu. PETE has a partnership arrangement of some kind with eastern euro. agencies/universities Leif Magnuson(EPA Region IX) Pollution Prevention Team 75 Hawthorne St. San Francisco CA 94105 (415) 744-2153 (Voice) (415) 744-1044 (Fax) nancy wrote: I've been invited to participate in a waste management training workshop in Slovakia (used to be part of Czechoslovakia, now independent) at the end of September. This is one of several workshops that EPA is presenting for and with the Slovak Environmental Agency (SEA). Our audience will be employees of the SEA and some local environmental agencies. The topic I am to cover is municipal solid waste, especially source reduction, source separation, recycling, and household hazardous waste. My questions for P2Tech are: 1. Is there anyone among us who has been in Slovakia in recent years who can give me some idea of what their MSW and HHW might look like? 2. Can anyone suggest good resource materials on getting started with programs for MSW source reduction, source separation, recycling, or HHW education and collection? I have most of the EPA documents, any others? 3. Anyone know of good case studies, especially from Europe, dealing with development of programs for any of these topics? Thanks for your help! Nancy Helm EPA Region 10 Seattle, WA helm.nancy@epamail.epa.gov 206 553-8659 From p2tech-owner Sat Aug 9 09:24:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA10987 for p2tech-out; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 09:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 08:40:36 +0100 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: goudpag@hiwaay.net (peter goudreau) Subject: RE: Fact sheets for POTWs/POTW ordinances Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech >Oregon has developed a "P2 for POTWs" resource manual and five >industry-specific brochures on preventing water pollution. Our POTWs >are very interested in doing more in this area, and the manual includes >both suggestions on what POTWs could do to promote P2, and suggestions >for working with the five industry groups. We borrowed a lot from the >San Francisco Bay area's efforts, and much of this information is in the >manual. I'll put a copy in the mail for you. > >Marianne Fitzgerald >P2 Coordinator >Oregon DEQ >(503) 229-5946 >fitzgerald.marianne@deq.state.or.us > > >> ---------- >Marianne: Please send me a set, too. Thanx, Pete Goudreau 1922 Charlotte Ct, Florence, AL, 35630-6714 205-760-9067 From p2tech-owner Sat Aug 9 15:22:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA17423 for p2tech-out; Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33ECEC3D.6B20@mafalda.univalle.edu.co> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 15:16:29 -0700 From: Alfonso Manrique Vega Organization: Universidad del Valle X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: State P2 Guides References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech DAVE HARTLEY wrote: > > Office of Pollution Prevention and Technology Development > > Anita: > > I have put a copy of California's Source Reduction Guidance Manual (Facility > Planning Guide) in the mail for you yesterday. I have also included a copy > of our publications listing that has information on industry specific > Checklists. Good luck with your project! > > * Dave Hartley ** Phone (916) 324-1815 * > * DTSC/OPPTD ** Fax (916) 327-4494 * > * P.O. Box 806 ** E-Mail Address: * > * Sacramento, Ca. 95812-0806 ** HW1.DHARTLEY@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV * > *** Forwarding note from P2TECH --HW1SMTP 05/13/97 08:44 *** > To: P2TECH --HW1SMTP P2TECH > > Subject: State P2 Guides > > Sender's Nativename=p2tech@GREAT-LAKES.NET > > Hi P2 Techies, > > 1. I was wondering if you know of State or Federal guidebooks that > focus on helping companies with creating a pollution prevention plan > for > their businesses? (I've got EPA's "Facility Pollution Prevention Guide" > and the WasteWise "Tool Kit"). > > 2. I'm also looking for State or Federal industry specific waste reduction > checklists. > > We're, Michigan DEQ, is trying to assess the information that exists to help > industries put together a pollution prevention plan. > > **If you do have a guidebook, and of course, can spare a copy, I would > appreciate it mailed to the address below.** > > Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance for your help. > > ************************************************** > Anita K. Singh > Pollution Prevention Section > Environmental Assistance Division > Michigan Department of Environmental Quality > 333 South Capital Street, Suite 200, Town Center > Lansing, MI 48933 > 517-335-2356 > 517-335-4729 (FAX) > singha@deq.state.mi.us Dear Sirs, I will appreciate you if can include me on your mail list to sent a copy of the Guidance Manual and the list of publications. That material will help a lot our Engineering programs. Sincerely yours, -- -- Ing. Alfonso Manrique Vega - Jefe de Depto. Procesos Quimicos y Biologicos Facultad de Ingeniería - Universidad del Valle Apartado Aéreo 25360 Cali - Colombia Fax (+572) 3392335 e-mail:almanriq@mafalda.univalle.edu.co http://www.univalle.edu.co From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 08:00:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA26149 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 07:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:03:57 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 15:32:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" Subject: Search for Listserv To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: Scott Walters Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:03:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: E407ZWYYBI8VG X400-Mts-Identifier: [;75308011807991/833451@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear P2Techers, An office colleague asked me to post the following on his behalf. You are welcome to respond to Scott at his email address or on P2Tech. I will be happy to forward your responses to Scott. As background: Scott refers queries to P2 when possible, however, his assignments relate more specifically to residual (non- hazardous) waste questions and follows up on reuse/beneficial use. Thank you Jo Anne From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 09:13:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA28433 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708111313.JAA28433@cedar.cic.net> From: "Flint Webb" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Beyond MACT with P2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 15:16:22 -0400 > From: "Kavanah, Brian W" > Subject: RE: Beyond MACT with P2 > To: "dcorcora@arb.ca.gov" (Return requested) > Cc: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested) > Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > You wrote: > I am looking for examples of situations where P2 has been used to go > beyond MACT (Maximun Achievable Control Technology) per US Clean Air > Act or other related information such as inclusion of P2 in MACT rule > development. > > Thanks. > > Dennis Corcoran > California Air Resources Board > (916) 324-8622 > dcorcora@arb.ca.gov > > Good examples can be found at facilities that are (or were) subject to > the clorinated solvent MACT due to thier vapor or cold cleaning > degreasers and have replaced these systems with aqueous systems, changed > work practices, or took other steps that exempted them from the MACT. > I'll send you a short case study of a Maine company that has done that. Thank you. I would be interested in your case study. My address is: Flint Webb SAIC 11251 Roger Bacon Drive Reston, VA 20190 > > Brian Kavanah > Maine DEP > Station 17 > Augusta, ME 04333 > 207 287-6188 > brian.w.kavanah@state.me.us > > > ---------- > From: Marc H. Siegel[SMTP:Marc_Siegel@ucsd.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 2:38 PM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Cc: dcorcora@arb.ca.gov > Subject: Beyond MACT with P2 > > Please send your replies directly to Dennis at: > dcorcora@arb.ca.gov > > I am looking for examples of situations where P2 has been used to go > beyond MACT (Maximun Achievable Control Technology) per US Clean Air > Act or other related information such as inclusion of P2 in MACT rule > development. > > Thanks. > > Dennis Corcoran > California Air Resources Board > (916) 324-8622 > dcorcora@arb.ca.gov > > > > Flint Webb, P.E. phone (703)318-4672 fax (703)736-0826 SAIC Pollution Prevention Div. FWebb@lan828.ehsg.saic.com From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 09:13:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA28458 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:13:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Lotus-FromDomain: ILDCCA From: "ANNETTE LINGLEO" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <862564F0.004763AB.00@commerce.state.il.us> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:02:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Need compliance assistance programs contact info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Illinois Small Business Environmental Assistance Program IL Dept. of Commerce & Community Affairs 620 East Adams Springfield, IL 62701 Helpline: 800/252-3998 (in IL) Outside IL 217/524-0168 Fax: 217/785-6328 Contacts: Mark Enstrom/Annette Lingleo From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 09:16:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA28574 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708111316.JAA28574@cedar.cic.net> From: Czajkowski.Greg@epamail.epa.gov Subject: Compliance Assistance Contacts To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Here's a few contacts for your list. Sorry I couldn't be comprehensive but I just received the message on Friday afternoon. I'd like to hear more about the project you are working on. Is there any way I can be on a mailing list? Thanks! Greg Czajkowski, Manager RCRA Compliance Assistance Program U.S. EPA Region 9 First Name: Judy Middle Initial: Last Name: Frantz Full Name: CA DTSC Work Information Company: CA DTSC Department: Office of External Affairs Mail Code HQ-15 P.O. Box 806 Location: Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 Title: Indust. Education Coordinator Office Phone: 916-324-3614 FAX Phone: 916-327-0978 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- First Name: Jerry Middle Initial: Last Name: French Full Name: Pima Co. DEQ Work Information Company: Pima Co. DEQ Department: Small Business Asst. Location: Title: Office Phone: 520-740-6916 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- First Name: Barbara Middle Initial: Last Name: Rhode Full Name: Western P.E.T.E. Work Information Company: Western P.E.T.E. Department: Location: 2150 River Plaza Dr., #170 Sacramento, CA 95833 Title: Office Phone: 916-921-3365 FAX Phone: 916-921-3368 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- First Name: Todd Middle Initial: Last Name: Doris Full Name: AZ DEQ (Project XL Contact) Work Information Company: Department: Community Group Location: Phoenix, AZ Title: Office Phone: 602-207-4248 From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 10:16:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA01543 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 10:26:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199708111426.KAA14705@scitech.mstf.org> X-Sender: ecm@mstf.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: jsaxe Subject: Re: Early Literature Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Is this still in print. where can I get it? At 02:51 PM 8/7/97 -0700, you wrote: >One reference I found to be very enlightening was "The Tragedy of >Waste," written by Stuart Chase in the late 1920s. While the focus of >his work is mainly on the avoidance of waste associated with inefficient >labor management and raw material utilization, his basic points apply to >all wastes. Thru standardization and better management practices, many >wastes can be avoided. I'm sure this is still true today. > >He also presented a very interesting concept of "wealth" versus "illth." >Illth can be thought of as goods produced for the sake of >over-consumption. By calculating how much money went into the >production of illth, he was able to show that this waste was more than >enough to provide all the poor in the US with a decent level of living. > >I know this work is not "P2" per se, but it is interesting to see how >people have looked at similar problems in the past. Scientific >management, value engineering, energy conservation, and now P2 all share >a common approach to the same problem: identifying ways to do more with >less. And speaking of less, I better sign off before I ramble on. > >Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > > Joan B. Saxe Center for Technology Transfer 190 Riverside St. Portland, ME 04103 207 871-8254 FAX 207 780-1547 From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 11:41:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA06575 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33EF3339.1B13@hevanet.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:43:53 -0700 From: Margaret Reich Nover Organization: Portland's Pollution Prevention Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: [Fwd: ] Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Received: from io.bes.portland.or.us by vista.hevanet.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0wxwg7-000WgzC; Mon, 11 Aug 97 08:46 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 8:45:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Margaret Reich Nover (503.823.7623) BES-P2 105/800 To: pdxp2@hevanet.com X-Vmsmail-To: INTERNET"pdxp2@hevanet.com" Message-Id: <970811084526.12063@bes.portland.or.us> X-UIDL: f4d004eefe3d8ff6dd4e3479e3e8d9b1 X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 Boston Environmental Tech Job Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 21:44:48 -0500 From: rstuart@rffund.org Subject: CR: Job Announcement To: circuit-riders@igc.org Greetings, We had a hand in drafting the proposal that yielded a major grant to fund this new environmental collaborative. Electronic networking including "circuit riding" will definately be a major part of the job. If I was 10 years younger I'd apply; know anyone that wants to work in historic Boston? POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT Coordinator, Massachusetts Environmental Collaborative The Environmental League of Massachusetts (ELM), an independent, non-profit advocacy and educational organization dedicated to bringing about strong, responsible environmental laws, policies, and programs, seeks a Coordinator for the Massachusetts Environmental Collaborative. The Collaborative is a new initiative to improve the research, communications, and advocacy capability of participating groups. The Coordinator will: . Work closely with senior staff of member organizations from throughout Massachusetts to devise and implement strategies to advance the state's environmental agenda. Facilitate cooperative efforts by member groups. Recruit new groups to become members of the Collaborative. . Establish and manage an electronic network of participating groups and interested citizens; organize and take part in Collaborative meetings, both in person and electronically. Develop and maintain on-line conferences and web site. Act as a resource on communication and networking issues for member groups. . Work with the Development Director to raise funds to meet the Collaborative's budget. Write funding proposals to foundations and develop relationships with funders; write reports to foundations. Organize major annual fundraising event for the environmental community to support Collaborative activities. . Distribute information to participating groups and citizens. Write articles on policy topics for quarterly ELM Bulletin. Qualifications: Bachelor's degree required; advanced degree preferred. The successful candidate will be attracted by the challenge of building a new institution to protect the environment. Political/community organizing experience strongly preferred. Strong written and oral communication skills, strong computer communication and networking skills, strong interpersonal skills, commitment to the environment, and practicality all required. Fundraising experience preferred but not required. Salary: $30-40,000, depending on qualifications. Health and dental insurance. To apply: Send a persuasive letter and resume to: Search, ELM, 3 Joy St., Boston, MA 02108 (fax: 617 742-9656; e-mail: elm@tiac.net) by 8/15/97. No phone calls. ELM seeks qualified applicants without regard to race, sex, sexual preference, religion, national origin, age, disability, or any other attribute not related to superior performance of this position. * * * * * From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 13:02:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA09896 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 13:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:11:24 -0500 From: THELMA CODINA To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Need compliance assistance programs contact info -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Contact Thelma Codina at (312) 886-6219, Region 5's TRI Program Manager, for compliance assistance on Emergency Planning and Community Righ-to-Know Act Section 313 (Form R Reporting or commonly known as TRI). The Region conducts at least 6 free TRI compliance assistance every year (at least one for each of the Region's State). >>> ANNETTE LINGLEO 08/11/97 08:02am >>> Illinois Small Business Environmental Assistance Program IL Dept. of Commerce & Community Affairs 620 East Adams Springfield, IL 62701 Helpline: 800/252-3998 (in IL) Outside IL 217/524-0168 Fax: 217/785-6328 Contacts: Mark Enstrom/Annette Lingleo From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 11 15:39:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA16509 for p2tech-out; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 15:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF0167028@pasnt08.jacobs.com> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Early Literature Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:48:52 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Joan, I doubt it is still in print but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Stuart Chase wrote many books and was a popular author. His works are typically found in the economics section of used book stores and libraries. While he worked for the Dept of Commerce as an economist, his writing is much more like that of a sociologist. He also wrote a book called "100,000,000 Guinea Pigs," a look into all the "wonderful" chemicals added to our food supply. It's a good read for people interested in the need for consumer protection. I would check your local library and used book stores first. If that gets you no where, then drop me a line and I can find you a copy here in L.A. Regards, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > ---------- > From: jsaxe[SMTP:ecm@mstf.org] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Monday, August 11, 1997 7:26AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Early Literature > > Is this still in print. where can I get it? At 02:51 PM 8/7/97 > -0700, you > wrote: > >One reference I found to be very enlightening was "The Tragedy of > >Waste," written by Stuart Chase in the late 1920s. While the focus > of > >his work is mainly on the avoidance of waste associated with > inefficient > >labor management and raw material utilization, his basic points apply > to > >all wastes. Thru standardization and better management practices, > many > >wastes can be avoided. I'm sure this is still true today. > > > >He also presented a very interesting concept of "wealth" versus > "illth." > >Illth can be thought of as goods produced for the sake of > >over-consumption. By calculating how much money went into the > >production of illth, he was able to show that this waste was more > than > >enough to provide all the poor in the US with a decent level of > living. > > > >I know this work is not "P2" per se, but it is interesting to see how > >people have looked at similar problems in the past. Scientific > >management, value engineering, energy conservation, and now P2 all > share > >a common approach to the same problem: identifying ways to do more > with > >less. And speaking of less, I better sign off before I ramble on. > > > >Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > > > > > > > Joan B. Saxe > Center for Technology Transfer > 190 Riverside St. > Portland, ME 04103 > 207 871-8254 > FAX 207 780-1547 > From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 12 10:36:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA12868 for p2tech-out; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "'Angie Pitcock'" , "'Bernie Hayes'" , "'Bob Fernandez'" , "'Dan Ahern'" , "'Dong Hyun Kim in Korea'" , "'Doug McCurry'" To: "'Elizabeth Brown at IAMS'" , "'Emma Lou George'" , "'Jeff Burke at EPA Region III'" , "'Jerry Alert at SC DHEC'" , "'Jim Stokoe at LOS'" , "'John Scarboro'" To: "'LeAnn Herren'" , "'Louis Bordenave'" , "'Louis Paley at Envirosense'" , "'Mary Joyce Freibert at KPPC'" , "'Myles Morse'" , "'Nancy Grundahl, EPA III'" To: "'NPPR listserve - distribution'" , "'P2tech listserve distribution'" , "'Teresa Garrett'" , "'Terry Albrecht'" , "'Tom Zosel at 3M'" , "Loney, Jon M." To: "Isom, Kathy W." , "Smith, Hugh L." , "Bates, C Thomas" , "Mantooth, Jim G." , "Brown, Lynn R." , "Scheffler, Peter K." To: "Williams, Ronald J." , "Mehta, Khurshid K." , "Oxendine, Linda B." Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." Subject: Publications available through TVA IWR HomePage Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:39:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The Tennessee Valley Authority's Industrial Waste Reduction Team HomePage ( http://www.tva.gov/orgs/iwr/iwrhome.htm ) offers Abstract and Full Text (in PDF format) for the following publications: Waste Reduction Guides Environmental Process Self Survey Measuring Success: The Alabama Study Measuring Success: The Tennessee Study Measuring Waste Reduction Pollution Prevention Payback Pyramid Pollution Prevention Myths About Painting and Paint Stripping Recycling the Ultimate Resource: Retired Professional Assistance in Waste Reduction Programs in Region IV Shop Guide to Reduce Wastewater from the Machining and Metal Fabrication Industry Shop Guide to Reduce the Waste of Metalworking Fluids Waste Reduction Papers Wastewater and Waste Reduction Establishing In-House Waste Reduction Programs Conducting Pollution Prevention Audits Pollution Prevention-Metal Finishing Industry Waste Reduction-Metal Fabrication Fluids and Wastewaters Measuring Effectiveness of Industrial Waste Reduction Assessments Waste Reduction Guides for Applied Technologies Summary Direct Resistance Electrical Discharge Machining (EDM) Industrial Heat Pump Indirect Resistance Infrared Induction Laser Membrane Microwave Plasma Arc Plasma (ion) Nitriding Radio Frequency (RF) Ultraviolet (UV) Waterjet Steve Steve Hillenbrand Industrial Waste Reduction Engineer Tennessee Valley Authority 423-632-8489 sjhillenbrand@tva.gov TVA IWR Web Site: http://www.tva.gov/orgs/iwr/iwrhome.htm From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 12 11:33:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA15661 for p2tech-out; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 08:25:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re[2]: Early Literature To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <9707128713.AA871399803@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech You might also try logging on to amazon.com, which will seek out used copies of out-of-print books and notify you by e-mail when they're found; we've been happy with service to date. http://www.amazon.com/ Scott Butner rs_butner@pnl.gov ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Early Literature Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net at ~internet Date: 8/11/97 3:56 PM Joan, I doubt it is still in print but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Stuart Chase wrote many books and was a popular author. His works are typically found in the economics section of used book stores and libraries. While he worked for the Dept of Commerce as an economist, his writing is much more like that of a sociologist. He also wrote a book called "100,000,000 Guinea Pigs," a look into all the "wonderful" chemicals added to our food supply. It's a good read for people interested in the need for consumer protection. I would check your local library and used book stores first. If that gets you no where, then drop me a line and I can find you a copy here in L.A. Regards, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > ---------- > From: jsaxe[SMTP:ecm@mstf.org] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Monday, August 11, 1997 7:26AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Early Literature > > Is this still in print. where can I get it? At 02:51 PM 8/7/97 > -0700, you > wrote: > >One reference I found to be very enlightening was "The Tragedy of > >Waste," written by Stuart Chase in the late 1920s. While the focus > of > >his work is mainly on the avoidance of waste associated with > inefficient > >labor management and raw material utilization, his basic points apply > to > >all wastes. Thru standardization and better management practices, > many > >wastes can be avoided. I'm sure this is still true today. > > > >He also presented a very interesting concept of "wealth" versus > "illth." > >Illth can be thought of as goods produced for the sake of > >over-consumption. By calculating how much money went into the > >production of illth, he was able to show that this waste was more > than > >enough to provide all the poor in the US with a decent level of > living. > > > >I know this work is not "P2" per se, but it is interesting to see how > >people have looked at similar problems in the past. Scientific > >management, value engineering, energy conservation, and now P2 all > share > >a common approach to the same problem: identifying ways to do more > with > >less. And speaking of less, I better sign off before I ramble on. > > > >Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > > > > > > > Joan B. Saxe > Center for Technology Transfer > 190 Riverside St. > Portland, ME 04103 > 207 871-8254 > FAX 207 780-1547 > From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 12 15:36:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA25825 for p2tech-out; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970812143714.00716eb8@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:37:14 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Janet Clark Subject: oil industry in Russia In-Reply-To: <199707311305.JAA13101@scitech.mstf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi Guys, Prof. Mikhailova, a toxicologist working for the state in Tyumen, Russia, is very interested in connecting with technical people who understand the oil extraction, transport, and refinement issues and technologies. She is interested in policy and technical information about standards, monitoring, fines, biotesting as a guage, etc. They are starting from a situation of old and unimaginably extensive spills, and therefore want information about environmental and health impacts and concentration standards for spilled crude and various products of its breakdown. Although not asking for it yet, could we also offer p2 tips for the industry. Thanks for anything you could send. They are not on email yet, so I can fax to them any contact information or other stuff from this listserver. I will also search the archives. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 12 17:02:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA29524 for p2tech-out; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:04:32 +0000 From: NEIL KOLWEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Want recommendations on P2 literature.. -Reply -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech "The Ecology of Commerce" by Paul Hawken provides an excellent (though somewhat depressing) overview of the magnitude of environmental problems, coupled with very keen insights into possible solutions. excellent background reading for a thinking P2/environmental professional. From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 12 17:03:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA29553 for p2tech-out; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33F0EC92.2A51@mafalda.univalle.edu.co> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:06:58 -0700 From: Alfonso Manrique Vega Organization: Universidad del Valle X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Cleaner Production workshop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Cleaner Production wrote: > The Cleaner production workshop, to be carried out in Cali, Colombia, Web Page is http://www.univalle.edu.co/~cleaprod/cpcurso.html There you will find the information about the program , methodology , instructors , cost and so on. -- Ingeniero Alfonso Manrique Vega Depto. Procesos Quimicos y Biologicos Facultad de Ingenieria - Universidad del Valle Cali , Colombia . A.A 25360 Fax: (+572) 339 2335 e-mail almanriq@mafalda.univalle.edu.co http://sunsite.univalle.edu.co From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 12 17:28:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA00383 for p2tech-out; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:26:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33F0F278.31C7@mafalda.univalle.edu.co> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:32:09 -0700 From: Alfonso Manrique Vega Organization: Universidad del Valle X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Cleaner Production workshop References: <33F0EC92.2A51@mafalda.univalle.edu.co> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Alfonso Manrique Vega wrote: > > Cleaner Production wrote: > > > > The Cleaner production workshop, to be carried out in Cali, Colombia, > Web Page is http://www.univalle.edu.co/~cleaprod/cpcurso.htm > > There you will find the information about the program , methodology , > instructors , cost and so on. > -- > Ingeniero Alfonso Manrique Vega > Depto. Procesos Quimicos y Biologicos > Facultad de Ingenieria - Universidad del Valle > Cali , Colombia . A.A 25360 > Fax: (+572) 339 2335 > e-mail almanriq@mafalda.univalle.edu.co > http://sunsite.univalle.edu.co -- Ingeniero Alfonso Manrique Vega Depto. Procesos Quimicos y Biologicos Facultad de Ingenieria - Universidad del Valle Cali , Colombia . A.A 25360 Fax: (+572) 339 2335 e-mail almanriq@mafalda.univalle.edu.co http://sunsite.univalle.edu.co From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 12 19:14:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA02804 for p2tech-out; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:10:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirsten Rosselot Message-Id: <199708122320.QAA21869@netcom18.netcom.com> Subject: Re: oil industry in Russia To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:20:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970812143714.00716eb8@pop.ma.ultranet.com> from "Janet Clark" at Aug 12, 97 02:37:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dave Allen and I put together workshop materials for pollution prevention in petroleum refining for the Illinois EPA. They consist of overhead pages with accompanying speaker's notes for each overhead and are meant to cover a 12-hour workshop. You should be able to get a copy from Tom Wallin at 217-785-8387. There's an extensive bibliography at the end of the package for p2 in refining. I think these materials are free. A really good source for p2 in refining info is API's "Waste Minimization in the Petroleum Industry: A Compendium of Practices." It covers exploration and production as well as refining and it's just got a lot of really practical information. API is in Washington DC and the report number on my copy is 849-00020, but I believe they've changed their numbering system so that might have changed. It's important to recognize that refineries are enormously complex with interrelated streams. Also, each refinery is unique - the crude, the product slate, the age of the refinery, and a whole bunch of other factors make it impossible to apply successful p2 techniques from one refinery to refineries in general. Except for things like reducing solids loading to the WWTU and reducing fugitive emissions.... At any rate, I would point at least the workshop materials (because they are free and I'm assuming your contact is strapped for cash) and possibly the API document to your contact in Russia. Good luck. =============================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 U.S.A. 1-818-878-0454 rosselot@netcom.com =============================== Janet wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Prof. Mikhailova, a toxicologist working for the state in Tyumen, Russia, > is very interested in connecting with technical people who understand the > oil extraction, transport, and refinement issues and technologies. She is > interested in policy and technical information about standards, monitoring, > fines, biotesting as a guage, etc. > > They are starting from a situation of old and unimaginably extensive > spills, and therefore want information about environmental and health > impacts and concentration standards for spilled crude and various products > of its breakdown. Although not asking for it yet, could we also offer p2 > tips for the industry. > > Thanks for anything you could send. They are not on email yet, so I can > fax to them any contact information or other stuff from this listserver. I > will also search the archives. > > > > Janet Clark > Technology Transfer Manager > MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute > University of Massachusetts > One University Ave. > Lowell, MA 01854-2866 > Tel 508-934-3346 > Fax 508-934-3050 > email clarkjan@turi.org > > > ***************************************** > TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are > projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. > From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 13 14:50:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA00273 for p2tech-out; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF016702C@pasnt08.jacobs.com> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Early Literature Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:57:58 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Quick correction. "100,000,000 Guinea Pigs" was written by Kallet and Schlink as a follow-up to "Your Money's Worth" co-authored by Chase and Schlink. GP looked at the use of dangerous chemicals in our food and drugs while Money's Worth looked at consumer fraud and unfounded advertising claims. Some of the products discussed (like a certain germ killing mouthwash) are still being sold today using the same advertising claims. > ---------- > From: Callahan, Mike > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Monday, August 11, 1997 12:48PM > To: 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' > Subject: RE: Early Literature > > Joan, > > I doubt it is still in print but I wouldn't be surprised if it was. > Stuart Chase wrote many books and was a popular author. His works are > typically found in the economics section of used book stores and > libraries. While he worked for the Dept of Commerce as an economist, > his writing is much more like that of a sociologist. He also wrote > a > book called "100,000,000 Guinea Pigs," a look into all the "wonderful" > chemicals added to our food supply. It's a good read for people > interested in the need for consumer protection. > > I would check your local library and used book stores first. If that > gets you no where, then drop me a line and I can find you a copy here > in > L.A. > > Regards, > Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > > > ---------- > > From: jsaxe[SMTP:ecm@mstf.org] > > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 1997 7:26AM > > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > Subject: Re: Early Literature > > > > Is this still in print. where can I get it? At 02:51 PM 8/7/97 > > -0700, you > > wrote: > > >One reference I found to be very enlightening was "The Tragedy of > > >Waste," written by Stuart Chase in the late 1920s. While the focus > > of > > >his work is mainly on the avoidance of waste associated with > > inefficient > > >labor management and raw material utilization, his basic points > apply > > to > > >all wastes. Thru standardization and better management practices, > > many > > >wastes can be avoided. I'm sure this is still true today. > > > > > >He also presented a very interesting concept of "wealth" versus > > "illth." > > >Illth can be thought of as goods produced for the sake of > > >over-consumption. By calculating how much money went into the > > >production of illth, he was able to show that this waste was more > > than > > >enough to provide all the poor in the US with a decent level of > > living. > > > > > >I know this work is not "P2" per se, but it is interesting to see > how > > >people have looked at similar problems in the past. Scientific > > >management, value engineering, energy conservation, and now P2 all > > share > > >a common approach to the same problem: identifying ways to do more > > with > > >less. And speaking of less, I better sign off before I ramble on. > > > > > >Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Joan B. Saxe > > Center for Technology Transfer > > 190 Riverside St. > > Portland, ME 04103 > > 207 871-8254 > > FAX 207 780-1547 > > > From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 12:07:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA23825 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 12:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 12:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708151603.MAA23825@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Babette Neuberger Subject: P2 Opportunities in New Construction Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I'm looking for information pertaining to pollution prevention opportunities in the new construction of buildings. If anyone has information or experience in this area, please let me know. Thank you. Babette Neuberger UIC School of Public Health From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 13:01:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA25882 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 12:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:06:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert S Butner Subject: Re: P2 Opportunities in New Construction To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, obrien@halcyon.com, dallen@hevanet.com Message-id: <9707158716.AA871664856@ccmailgw.im.battelle.org> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > Babette Neuberger asked (in part): > I'm looking for information pertaining to pollution prevention opportunities > in the new construction of buildings. Babette -- Take a look at: http://p2.pnl.gov:2080/DFE/ Pacific Northwest National Lab (my employer) has developed a design methodology and training for US Dept of Energy which is applied to the design of new buildings and facilities. This web site includes information on these techniques, references to other DfE and construction resources, and downloadable software for identifying potential design strategies which will help in doing P2 during construction and the latter stages of building operation and decommissioning (when the majority of environmental impacts occur). Also, you might want to contact either of the two following individuals, who do a lot of consulting in this field and have developed guidebooks on P2 during construction phases: Debbie Allen River City Resource Group 4233 SW Corbett Portland, OR 97201 503-248-4550 office 503-295-2053 fax dallen@hevanet.com Kathleen O'Brien Principal O'Brien & Company P.O. Box 10705 Bainbridge Island, WA 98110 (206) 842-8995 office (206) 842-8717 fax obrien@halcyon.com I beleive that they are currently planning a major conference on the topic for later this fall, so it might be worth getting in touch with one or the other. Hope this helps. Scott ______________________________________________________ Scott Butner (rs_butner@pnl.gov) Pacific NW National Laboratory/Seattle Research Center 4000 NE 41st Street Seattle, WA 98105 206-528-3290 voice/206-528-3552 fax http://www.seattle.battelle.org/P2Online/ ______________________________________________________ From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 13:15:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA26529 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 97 13:19:38 EDT From: Andrew Murphy STEAP-SHEW 5-8423 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 Opportunities in New Construction Message-ID: <9708151319.aa07457@eagle.EAGLE.APG.ARMY.MIL> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Babette, Try the following: American Institute of Architects Environmental Resources Guide ISBN 0471 140 430 John Wiley & Sons 1 Wiley dr Somerset, NJ 08875 800-879-4539 Aprrox Cost $150 Green Bldg Technical Manual http://www.sustainable.doe.gov/ss/ptipub2.html Andy Murphy Dept of the Army DSHE APG, MD 21005 410-278-9023 From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 13:26:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA26892 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCA966.37210340.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: P2 Opportunities in New Construction Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:30:11 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Babette, I have looked into many types of P2 in construction of new buildings. What kind of P2 are you looking for - P2 in the design of the building, actual construction methods, or construction materials? Allan Butler Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com -----Original Message----- From: Babette Neuberger [SMTP:bjn@uic.edu] Sent: Friday, August 15, 1997 9:03 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 Opportunities in New Construction I'm looking for information pertaining to pollution prevention opportunities in the new construction of buildings. If anyone has information or experience in this area, please let me know. Thank you. Babette Neuberger UIC School of Public Health From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 13:55:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA28218 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:53:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard Dooley" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:06:18 EST Subject: Root Cause Analysis X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-Id: <21558C37768@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi P2Tech'ers, A colleague of mine has a message below about root cause analysis experts - thank you in advance for your input! =============================================== I have an Army client who needs a list of individuals and companies that are expert in root cause analysis. I am unfamiliar with root cause analysis and can use some help. I am extremely grateful for any suggestions. Thank you. Rebecca Glos Science Applications International Corporation =============================================== __________________________ Richard Dooley Environmental Management Specialist 11251 Roger Bacon Dr.; M/S 4-3; Rm. #4009 SAIC - Pollution Prevention Division Reston, VA 20190 e-mail: rdooley@lan828.ehsg.saic.com Ph: 703-318-4608 Fax: 703-736-0826 From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 14:49:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA00097 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:46:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Tom Hersey" Organization: Environment and Planning To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:55:58 +5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: P2 Opportunities in New Construction In-Reply-To: <199708151603.MAA23825@cedar.cic.net> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.52) Message-Id: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear Babette: Erie County initiated a program in April 1997 to assist contractors and Municipalities in reducing the amount of C&D waste going to landfills. New home construction is one of the targeted areas. Three contacts that we have discovered which may be of some help to you are: 1) National Assoc. of Home Builders (NAHB) 1201 15th St. N.W. Washington D.C. 20005 ph. (800) 368-5242 or (202) 822-0484 2) NAHB Research Center 400 Prince George Blvd. Upper Marlboro, Md. 20772 ph. (301) 249-4000 3) Innovative Waste Management ph. (612) 432-7038 If you would like more information regarding the Erie County program please contact Bonnie Lange directly at (716) 858-8560 or you can e-mail her through me. Tom Hersey From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 14:50:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA00229 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 14:49:04 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 11:58:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199708151858.LAA01644@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Root Cause Analysis To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have been teaching root cause analysis as the principal problem solving tool in P2 assessments for the past 11 years. There is an article on root cause analysis in POLLUTION PREVENTION REVIEW (John Wiley& Sons) Summer, 1996, pages 100-105. For those of you who have attended one of my training sessions, you know that the cause and effect diagram is the most widely used problem solving tool in the entire world. Root cause analysis is a key component of the Systems Approach to Pollution Prevention as I have been using it. While root cause analysis is not common to most environmental problems, it is widely used in quality management and manufacturing efficiency studies. Your contact can call me at any time. Robert B. Pojasek, Ph.D. Cambridge Environmental Inc. 58 Charles ST. Cambridge, MA 02141 (617) 225-0812 (617) 225-0813 (fax) http://www.CambridgeEnvironmental.com rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 15:31:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA01621 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 97 15:43:47 EDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: re: Re: P2 Opportunities in New Construction X-Incognito-SN: 1000 X-Incognito-Version: 4.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech "Tom Hersey" Wrote: | | | Dear Babette: | | Erie County initiated a program in April 1997 to | assist | contractors and Municipalities in reducing the amount of | C&D | waste going to landfills. New home construction is one of | the | targeted areas. Three contacts that we have discovered | which may be | of some help to you are: | | 1) National Assoc. of Home | Builders (NAHB) | 1201 15th St. N.W. | Washington D.C. 20005 | ph. (800) 368-5242 or (202) | 822-0484 | | 2) NAHB Research Center | 400 Prince George Blvd. | Upper Marlboro, Md. 20772 | ph. (301) 249-4000 | | 3) Innovative Waste Management | ph. (612) 432-7038 | | If you would like more information regarding the | Erie County program | please contact Bonnie Lange directly at (716) 858-8560 or | you can | e-mail her through me. | | Tom Hersey | | I will echo Tom's suggestion of contacting the NAHB, they have a guide out for home construction which is excellent! -Andrea Andrea Kreiner Farrell Delaware Pollution Prevention Program 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 fax afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 15 15:59:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA02728 for p2tech-out; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 15:56:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:00:08 -0700 Subject: P2 and Construction To: P2Tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <882564F4.006D3ABE.00@RTNTEMAIL.RTRT2144.EPA.GOV> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech US EPA Region 9 has a comprehensive Training Instructors' Guide for the Residential Construction Industry. Even though it's meant for educators, there is alot of information in it. I can email it if you like. It also contains State of California Fact Sheets on demolition, recycling construction waste products, and other checklists. Another useful document is "Resource Efficient Building: Reducing Materials Use, Toxicity and Waste In Design and Construction", created by WRITAR in Minnesota. Their phone number is 612-379-5995. Karen Sundheim (GCI) US EPA Region 9 Library 75 Hawthorne Street San Francisco, California 94105 Phone: 415-744-1508 Fax: 415-744-1474 Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 18 11:41:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA01763 for p2tech-out; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 11:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: p2ad@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <33F89864.6F27@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 11:45:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Rubber and Plastic Manufacturing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear P2 Folks: Has anyone out there in P2Land previously done pollution prevention workshops for the rubber and plastic manufacturing sector? If so, we'd like to hear more about your experience, agenda, what worked and didn't, etc. Thanks - Jancie Hatcher GA Pollution Prevention Asst. Div. 7 Martin Luther King, Jr. Drive Suite 450 Atlanta, GA 30334 (404) 651-5120 FAX (404) 651-5130 p2ad@ix.netcom.com From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 18 12:31:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA03994 for p2tech-out; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 12:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 11:43:30 -0500 From: JULIE MAGEE To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 and Construction -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Karen -- Can you e-mail me the comprehensive Training Instructor's Guide for Residential Construction Industry, please? Julie Magee USEPA - Region 5 Radiation and Indoor Air (AE-17J) 77 West Jackson Blvd. Chicago, IL 60604 (312) 886-6063 (312) 886-0617 Fax magee.julie@epamail.epa.gov >>> 08/15/97 03:00pm >>> US EPA Region 9 has a comprehensive Training Instructors' Guide for the Residential Construction Industry. Even though it's meant for educators, there is alot of information in it. I can email it if you like. It also contains State of California Fact Sheets on demolition, recycling construction waste products, and other checklists. Another useful document is "Resource Efficient Building: Reducing Materials Use, Toxicity and Waste In Design and Construction", created by WRITAR in Minnesota. Their phone number is 612-379-5995. Karen Sundheim (GCI) US EPA Region 9 Library 75 Hawthorne Street San Francisco, California 94105 Phone: 415-744-1508 Fax: 415-744-1474 Email: Sundheim.Karen@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 19 15:19:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA27744 for p2tech-out; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:17:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Lois_Epstein@edf.org X-Lotus-FromDomain: EDF To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <852564F8.0068A1F8.00@notesgw.edf.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:28:25 -0400 Subject: Re: oil industry (in Russia and elsewhere) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Slow time on the P2 network so I thought I'd send something... Here is a list of Environmental Defense Fund (i.e., my) publications on the tank, refining, and pipeline aspects of the oil industry. Please email my assistant, monique@edf.org, if you are interested in any of the publications listed. By the way, the API information listed below barely covers P2 strategies, largely focusing on recycling and other forms of waste minimization (e.g., preventing fines from entering sewers). Aboveground Tanks: A Survey of API Members' Aboveground Storage Tank Facilities (July 1994): A Critical Analysis. Testimony on aboveground tank legislation before the Subcommittee on Transportation and Hazardous Materials of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce, 1994. Underground Tanks: "Improvements to EPA's Underground Storage Tank Regulations: Advice to State/Local Regulators and Tank Insurers for Increased Leak Prevention," Conference on Petroleum Hydrocarbons and Organic Chemicals in Ground Water: Prevention, Detection and Restoration, sponsored by the National Water Well Association and the American Petroleum Institute, 1989. Citizen Action: An Ounce of Prevention, A Citizens' Series on Leaking Underground Storage Tanks, Part 2, Lois Epstein and Kathie Stein, 1990 ($5). Refineries: Ranking Refineries: What Do We Know About Oil Refinery Pollution From Right-to-Know Data?, Lois Epstein, Stephen Greetham and Anna Karuba, 1995 ($10/$25 for the Appendices). "A Review of Pollution Prevention Strategies for Petroleum Refineries," National Petroleum Refiners Association Refinery and Petrochemical Plant Environmental Conference, 1994. Reinventing Refineries: A Community Guide to Preventing Pollution at Oil Refineries, co-authored with Matthew Wiener of Citizens for a Better Environment - IL, 1994 ($5). Pipelines: Testimony before the Illinois Commerce Commission on Lakehead Pipe Line Company?s Application for a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity to construct and operate a pipeline for transportation of crude petroleum and other liquid hydrocarbons (contains a general critique of federal oversight of oil and gas pipelines), 1996. Lois N. Epstein, P.E. Environmental Defense Fund (Washington, DC) Lois_Epstein@edf.org From: rosselot@netcom.com on 08/12/97 07:20 PM AST Please respond to p2tech@great-lakes.net To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: (bcc: Lois Epstein) Subject: Re: oil industry in Russia Dave Allen and I put together workshop materials for pollution prevention in petroleum refining for the Illinois EPA. They consist of overhead pages with accompanying speaker's notes for each overhead and are meant to cover a 12-hour workshop. You should be able to get a copy from Tom Wallin at 217-785-8387. There's an extensive bibliography at the end of the package for p2 in refining. I think these materials are free. A really good source for p2 in refining info is API's "Waste Minimization in the Petroleum Industry: A Compendium of Practices." It covers exploration and production as well as refining and it's just got a lot of really practical information. API is in Washington DC and the report number on my copy is 849-00020, but I believe they've changed their numbering system so that might have changed. It's important to recognize that refineries are enormously complex with interrelated streams. Also, each refinery is unique - the crude, the product slate, the age of the refinery, and a whole bunch of other factors make it impossible to apply successful p2 techniques from one refinery to refineries in general. Except for things like reducing solids loading to the WWTU and reducing fugitive emissions.... At any rate, I would point at least the workshop materials (because they are free and I'm assuming your contact is strapped for cash) and possibly the API document to your contact in Russia. Good luck. =============================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 U.S.A. 1-818-878-0454 rosselot@netcom.com =============================== Janet wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Prof. Mikhailova, a toxicologist working for the state in Tyumen, Russia, > is very interested in connecting with technical people who understand the > oil extraction, transport, and refinement issues and technologies. She is > interested in policy and technical information about standards, monitoring, > fines, biotesting as a guage, etc. > > They are starting from a situation of old and unimaginably extensive > spills, and therefore want information about environmental and health > impacts and concentration standards for spilled crude and various products > of its breakdown. Although not asking for it yet, could we also offer p2 > tips for the industry. > > Thanks for anything you could send. They are not on email yet, so I can > fax to them any contact information or other stuff from this listserver. I > will also search the archives. > > > > Janet Clark > Technology Transfer Manager > MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute > University of Massachusetts > One University Ave. > Lowell, MA 01854-2866 > Tel 508-934-3346 > Fax 508-934-3050 > email clarkjan@turi.org > > > ***************************************** > TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are > projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. > From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 20 08:04:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA19862 for p2tech-out; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:12:23 -0400 From: JEFF HALSEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Lead Acid Battery Disposal Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Working with an alarm company that generates about 200 lead acid batteries per month. The 12 volt batteries are about 4" inch square and are 4 or 7 amp. I'm trying some waste exchanges, but thought I'd post in case anyone had any ideas. Thanks. ============================================ from: Jeffery Halsey Broward County Department of Natural Resource Protection 218 SW 1st Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33301 954-519-1468 jhalsey@co.broward.fl.us ============================================ From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 20 09:34:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA23112 for p2tech-out; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCAD45.51DC6C00.grote@epd.engr.wisc.edu> From: Grote To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Lead Acid Battery Disposal Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 08:44:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 200 batteries a month one has to ask the question why are they going bad? I would question how good the batteries are in the first place and also look into how they are used and maintained. There are several vendors of recharges using trickle and/or pulse charging to extend battery life. Look into the use/cycling of the battery, by changing operating cycles they could extend the life. Do they test the battery, or assume that every X months they need to be replaced? Hopefully this is useful and P2Tech isn't seen as the preachings of disciples of Bob Pojasek ___________________________________________________ Rick Grote, Ph.D. Solid & Hazardous Waste Education Center, SHWEC Wisconsin Manufacturing Extension Partnership, WMEP 610 Langdon Street, Room 530, Madison, WI 53703-1195 Phone:(608) 265-3055 FAX:(608) 262-6250 e-mail: grote@engr.wisc.edu -----Original Message----- From: JEFF HALSEY [SMTP:JHALSEY@CO.BROWARD.FL.US] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 1:12 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Lead Acid Battery Disposal Working with an alarm company that generates about 200 lead acid batteries per month. The 12 volt batteries are about 4" inch square and are 4 or 7 amp. I'm trying some waste exchanges, but thought I'd post in case anyone had any ideas. Thanks. ============================================ from: Jeffery Halsey Broward County Department of Natural Resource Protection 218 SW 1st Avenue Ft. Lauderdale, Florida 33301 954-519-1468 jhalsey@co.broward.fl.us ============================================ From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 20 16:37:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA12945 for p2tech-out; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708202030.QAA12945@cedar.cic.net> From: morse.myles@epamail.epa.gov (Myles Morse) To: US.EPA.Grants@epamail.epa.gov Subject: NCERQA Grant Programs Solicitation Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech IMPORTANT, the National Center for Environmental Research and Quality Assurance (NCERQA) is beginning its FY 1998 Grant Solicitation Cycle for our STAR Research Grants Program. Last year NCERQA provided approximately $100M in new and continuation research grant funds. We have prepared icons announcing our upcoming FY 1998 research grant and fellowship funding opportunities. They are available on our web site at http://es.inel.gov/ncerqa/grants/info/ , or you can use the following text: U.S. EPA 1998 Research Grants Announcements of Availability Either one should be linked to our home page: http://www.epa.gov/ncerqa/. Thank you for your time, Myles Morse U.S. EPA National Center for Environmental Research and Quality Assurance Office of Research and Development *************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison 217/244-6061 (v) Technical / Information Specialist 217/333-8944 (f) IL Waste Management and Research Cnt. morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 *************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 21 09:58:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA10887 for p2tech-out; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:56:26 -0400 (EDT) From: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <199708211356.JAA10887@cedar.cic.net> To: Subject: Re: Manufactured Wood Waste Management & Composting Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:07:49 +1000 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear P2 Techies Does anyone know an internet means of contacting the following people, or getting information about their projects? 1. Blair Pollock from the Orange Regional Landfill, Chapel Hill, Nth. California. (concerning information about the effects of composting manufactured wood) 2. Mark Zinniker at the Clean Washington Centre (concerning information about a best practice manual on wood waste management, which was (?) presented in workshops in March and April 1997). I would appreciate any information (email me personally to reduce the load on the List). Thank you in advance Cheers michael mpitcher@mira.net Melbourne, Australia. From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 21 10:22:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA11984 for p2tech-out; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D018BE522@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Manufactured Wood Waste Management & Composting Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:29:45 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Michael, Our MSW guy tells me that Blair Pollock can be reached at bpollack@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us (that's North Carolina, by the way -- not North California :) Melissa Malkin ................................................... Melissa Malkin Pollution Prevention Program Research Triangle Institute POB 12194. Research Triangle Park, N.C. 27709-2194 (ph) 919-541-6154 (fax) 919-541-7155 http://www.rti.org ....................................... > ---------- > From: > owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net[SMTP:owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 1997 7:07 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Re: Manufactured Wood Waste Management & Composting > > Dear P2 Techies > Does anyone know an internet means of contacting the following people, > or > getting information about their projects? > 1. Blair Pollock from the Orange Regional Landfill, Chapel Hill, Nth. > California. (concerning information about the effects of composting > manufactured wood) > 2. Mark Zinniker at the Clean Washington Centre (concerning > information > about a best practice manual on wood waste management, which was (?) > presented in workshops in March and April 1997). > I would appreciate any information (email me personally to reduce the > load > on the List). > Thank you in advance > Cheers > michael > mpitcher@mira.net > Melbourne, Australia. > > > > > From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 22 11:37:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA27768 for p2tech-out; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708221534.LAA27768@cedar.cic.net> From: MARVIN RUBIN To: Lois_Epstein@edf.org, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: oil industry (in Russia and elsewhere) -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The Effluent Guidelines program at EPA Hdqtrs has been during considerable work in the last 10 years on technology based requirements for the oil and gas extraction industry. Also we have updated information on petroleum refining industry. Loads of information. Contact: Marvin Rubin 202-260-3028 email is "marvin.rubin@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 22 12:35:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA00753 for p2tech-out; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:34:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard Dooley" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:48:44 EST Subject: Re: Lead Acid Battery Disposal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-Id: <2BC127F1090@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Jeff - hope this helps - the information below is from a colleague of mine. Rich Dooley =========================================== > Jeffery Halsey wrote: > Working with an alarm company that generates about 200 lead acid > batteries per month. The 12 volt batteries are about 4" inch square > and are 4 or 7 amp. I'm trying some waste exchanges, but thought > I'd post in case anyone had any ideas. Thanks. > > ============================================ Mr. Halsey, I would recommend a pollution prevention solution to this problem, consisting of three actions: 1. Improved maintenance of the batteries; the precise maintenance requirements and suggested procedures are (or should be) available from the battery manufacturer. Standard procedures for maintaining vehicle SLI batteries are also applicable to these alarm batteries, which I assume are back up batteries used when the power fails. 2. Improved, more technically rigorous testing of the batteries; recommend use of digital battery testing; recommend you contact Midtronics at 719 599-9180; they have a good line of battery testers. 3. Use of pulse/solar technology, which can keep batteries charged and desulfated; recommend you contact Pulse Tech at 1 800 580 7554 and ask for technical assistance on this. This equipment will eliminate the need to change out the batteries and will increase the batteries reliability, lowering costs and improving service for their customers. The equipment has National Stock Numbers and is being installed on vehicles throughout the Department of Defense. The larger issue here is the almost total neglect, by both the regulatory community and the pollution prevention community, of the enormous environmental and public health problems caused by lead acid battery use and disposal. Many are sent to other nations where they are "cracked" and smelted with absolutely no pollution or health controls whatsoever. We have problems at home, as well. I pick up an average of one abandoned lead/acid battery a month in the Washington, DC and Northern Virginia area, on streets, in parking lots, and out of streams. Some are broken open, releasing lead into the environment. I am not all all confident that our national recycling effort for lead/acids is as effective as it is claimed to be. I think it's really weak. I think we have become quite complacent about this item, despite the proven toxicity of lead. We in the P2 community need to end this problem by ecouraging the use of both better battery technology and better maintenance technology. I urge all to become aware of the new technology, add lead/acid batteries to your list of P2 options, and work to make EPA/States aware of this problem. A large part of the solution is to extend the useful life of lead/acids as long as possible. I hope this helps. Regards, Merrit Drucker SAIC 703 318 4610 __________________________ Richard Dooley Environmental Management Specialist 11251 Roger Bacon Dr.; M/S 4-3; Rm. #4009 SAIC - Pollution Prevention Division Reston, VA 20190 e-mail: rdooley@lan828.ehsg.saic.com Ph: 703-318-4608 Fax: 703-736-0826 From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 22 13:21:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA02833 for p2tech-out; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 13:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 13:30:16 -0400 From: JEFF HALSEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Lead Acid Battery Disposal -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks so much for your help. From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 22 14:00:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA04744 for p2tech-out; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:00:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Ronald_A_Del_Mar@rl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:10:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3fdd5ef0@ccmail.rl.gov> Subject: Source Reduction Screening To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Is anybody aware of any guidance documents for how to do source reduction screening of a proposed hazardous chemical inventory prior to procurement. I was asked this question by an engineer on one of the projects we are working on who is trying to build such a process into the project design specifications. Ron Del Mar Fluor Daniel Northwest (509) 376-1967 Fax: (509) 373-9519 ronald_a_del_mar@rl.gov From p2tech-owner Sun Aug 24 09:36:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA12611 for p2tech-out; Sun, 24 Aug 1997 09:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 09:44:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Bilkovich To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Roof Cleaning In-Reply-To: <1A8CAB620B@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Moved to another house last summer. It needed a new roof and I wanted to use as light a color as possible to reduce cooling load. However, here in the land where Tilex was invented, your white roof is soon black from fungal growth and the cooling load goes back up. I bought shingles on which some of the grit is mixed with copper salts. These slowly leach out and prevent fungal and algae growth. This spring I spoke with Kelly Moran of the Palo Alto POTW P2 program. They are having problems with zinc and copper and cannot find all the sources. I suggested they look into this type of roof shingle to quantify how much of a contibution to copper load they might be causing. No results yet. I estimated that the roof loses about 30 milligrams per year of copper. I had to balance that against the increased energy consumption of a fungused roof or a dark roof that would not show fungus. Also had to consider the energy it takes to get bleach onto the roof, protect the plants, collect the runoff and what happens when you dump the stuff down the sewer. Sounds like an EPA life cycle assessment contracted to Franklin. The crucial decision point was my wife saying "you can have as light a roof as you want as long as it doesn't look funky after two years". Don't even ask about the pool. Bill Bilkovich, EQC 3651 Cherry Bluff Ln Tallahassee, Fl 32312-1001 Fax 904-906-9816 Voice 904-894-2780 bilko@vistech.net On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, David Williams wrote: > Thanks Steve for the reminder. I've also read that a strip of copper > will serve the same purpose as a strip of zinc. - David > > > > From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." > > To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" > > Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , > > "Phillips, Joseph W." > > , > > "Mantooth, Jim G." , > > "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." , > > "Scheffler, Peter K." > > Cc: "Williams, Ronald J." > > Subject: RE: Roof Cleaning > > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:59:14 -0400 > > Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > > I heard of something that I tried that is supposed to prevent moss and > > fungus. I applied a thin strip of zinc paint (available at farmer's > > co-op but is fairly expensive by the gallon) along peak of roof (I > > applied to lower part of ridge vent where it would not show but is > > exposed to run off from top of ridge vent). I have heard that tacking a > > strip of galvanized metal along peak of roof also works. > > > > The theory is that the minute amount of zinc that washes off the paint > > or strip is enough to discourage growth of moss or fungus. I have only > > used this on my house for a couple of years since I had the moss and > > fungus removed (at fair expense) so I do not know if it is working yet > > (I can see no obvious growth yet). > > > > This is only anecdotal but is a source reduction option if it works. > > > > >---------- > > >From: David Williams[SMTP:David_Williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us] > > >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 10:02 AM > > >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > >Subject: Re: Roof Cleaning > > > > > >I asked a similar question earlier this year of the Cooperative > > >Extension Service in NC, and I was given a couple of options: > > > > > >1) Chlorine bleach & water 1 cup bleach/gallon of water. Apply the > > >solution, let soak a few minutes, brush lightly (careful not to strip > > >the grit off) and rinse. > > > > > >2) Trisodium phosphate 4-6 Tbsp/gal H20. Use the same application > > >method as above. > > > > > >Using either approach, be sure to cover plants that may be exposed > > >and capture the gutter drainage if possible to prevent damage to > > >plants and grass. > > > > > >I was cautioned about pressure cleaning because of potential damage > > >to the grit on the shingle. If you choose this approach use as > > >little pressure as possible. > > > > > >Also be careful walking on the roof. This stuff gets extremely > > >slippery when wet, particularly after you apply bleach. > > > > > >Does it seem to anyone else that roof fungus has gotten worse in the > > >last few years? It does to me. > > > > > >By the way I tried method 1 above and it worked fair, not great. The > > >stain is still there, but it's not spreading like before. > > > > > >David Williams > > >NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance > > >P.O. Box 29569 > > >Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 > > >Tel: (919) 715-6527 > > >Fax: (919) 715-6794 > > >e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us > > >Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ > > > > > > > David Williams > NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance > P.O. Box 29569 > Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 > Tel: (919) 715-6527 > Fax: (919) 715-6794 > e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us > Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ > From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 25 10:46:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA24717 for p2tech-out; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 97 11:02:37 EDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Andrea K. Farrell" Subject: Aluminum and ZInc Smelting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi all! Does anyone have any information on P2 for aluminum or zinc smelting. I am involved with a company which has all its compliance ducks in a row, but is interested in P2. Any help would be appreciated, Andrea Andrea Kreiner Farrell Delaware Pollution Prevention Program 302-739-3822 302-739-6242 fax afarrell@dnrec.state.de.us From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 25 12:49:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA01552 for p2tech-out; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:48:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 25-Aug-1997 12:57:58 -0400; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <49A9013401501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Re: Aluminum and ZInc Smelting From: sobin@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Sobin, Rodney) Date: 25 Aug 97 13:08:16 EDT In-Reply-To: <3E77014401501C76@-SMF-> References: <3E77014402501C76@-SMF-> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Andrea, You might be interested in DOE's Industries of the Future initiative. Aluminum is one of the targeted industries. See http://www.oit.doe.gov/IOF/aluminum/ Rodney Sobin sobin@ctc.com Concurrent Technologies Corp. tel 814-269-6895 fax 814-269-2798 From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 25 16:22:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA12408 for p2tech-out; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 16:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3401EA67.2A86@hevanet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:26:15 -0700 From: Margaret Reich Nover Organization: Portland's Pollution Prevention Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Green opportunity turns brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech It has come to my attention that one of the suppliers of post-consumer paper is no longer going to offer the paper for sale. International Paper, which produces both Unity (Hammermill) and Incentive 100 (Springhill) paper is discontinuing these lines. These paper products are preferred because they contain 100% recycled, 50% post-consumer paper content, and the paper used is produced using secondarily chlorine free process. The paper works well in fax, printer, and copy machines. Information I have received indicates that the IP mill in Pennsylvania, which produces the paper, is in substantial compliance with environmental regulations. I am concerned that this supplier of environmentally preferrable paper is planning to discontinue these lines starting October 1st. This will impact the good work we all pursue in terms of "walking our talk" with the purchasing of green alternatives. If you share this concern, write to: Rick Smith, Vice President Printing and Office Paper Hammermill 6400 Poplar Avenue Memphis, TN 38197 and let him know! Margaret Nover Portland Pollution Prevention PS. Wish I had an email address for Rick, but I don't. From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 25 20:12:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA22154 for p2tech-out; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:12:00 -0400 (EDT) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <340221C3.5788@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:22:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Green opportunity turns brown References: <3401EA67.2A86@hevanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Margaret Reich Nover wrote: > > It has come to my attention that one of the suppliers of post-consumer > paper is no longer going to offer the paper for sale. International > Paper, which produces both Unity (Hammermill) and Incentive 100 > (Springhill) paper is discontinuing these lines. These paper products > are preferred because they contain 100% recycled, 50% post-consumer paper > content, and the paper used is produced using secondarily chlorine free > process. The paper works well in fax, printer, and copy machines. > Information I have received indicates that the IP mill in Pennsylvania, > which produces the paper, is in substantial compliance with environmental > regulations. > > I am concerned that this supplier of environmentally preferrable paper is > planning to discontinue these lines starting October 1st. This will > impact the good work we all pursue in terms of "walking our talk" with > the purchasing of green alternatives. > > If you share this concern, write to: > > Rick Smith, Vice President > Printing and Office Paper > Hammermill > 6400 Poplar Avenue > Memphis, TN 38197 > > and let him know! > > Margaret Nover > Portland Pollution Prevention > > PS. Wish I had an email address for Rick, but I don't. I went to their internet site at http://www.ipaper.com/our_brands/printing_links/hammermill_frame.html and got this information: Hammermill Papers 6400 Poplar Avenue Memphis, TN 38197-7000 Phone: 1-800-242-2148 Fax: 1-800-724-6528 email:comm@ipaper.com Do any other manufacturers plan to step in a take up the slack? Gerard -- BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz G-Whiz Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 BOB product review: http://www.atving.com/editor/techtips/bob.htm BOB Testimonials: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277/testim.htm From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 25 21:19:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id VAA24117 for p2tech-out; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708260135.VAA25102@mailrelay.tiac.net> X-Sender: jcantin@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jeff Cantin Subject: Re: Green opportunity turns brown Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech A colleague who has worked extensively on the federal green procurement guidelines says she has 2-year old copies of reports xeroxed on this paper that are literally crumbling apart. She says the problem is the high groundwood content. This would seem to limit market acceptability. Just another $0.02. -- Jeff Cantin From p2tech-owner Mon Aug 25 21:33:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id VAA24628 for p2tech-out; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708260142.UAA07159@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:19:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Roof Cleaning X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Wouldn't thin metal sheathing of roofs (instead of asphalt shingles) solve several pollution problems? Metal would be more durable, potentially lasting many decades beyond the typical life of shingles. Metal would provide the light color needed for energy conservation. Metal would not host mildew or fungus, and even if it did, it could easily be washed off. The metal could be finished to not shine into neighbors faces. Metal manufacturing does pollute, but the long-term durability may mean less pollution over the entire lifecycle. Asphalt manufacturing is a terribly polluting activity, and should be kept to a minimum. The grit, colors, treatments, and other additives could also create potential pollution problems. For example, a new incinerator is being built in Neenah, Wisconsin, to burn waste sludges from four large paper industries. The bottom "clinkers" will be processed into the tiny grit added to shingles. The sludge contains a variety of contaminants, including many toxic metals which could end up in the grit. The company is called Minergy, and they call their facility a "glass aggregate plant" not an incinerator. Several similar projects are also proposed to handle other wastes in our area. Rebecca Leighton Katers Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 08:18:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA09886 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:24:55 -0400 From: Wendy Fitzner To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Green opportunity turns brown -Forwarded -Reply -Forwarded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_27721CB2.BBDAB6D5" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_27721CB2.BBDAB6D5 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline My co-worker had this response, so though she doesn't know yet, I though I would share it with you.... Wendy Fitzner Pollution Prevention Section Environmental Assistance Division Michigan Department of Enviromental Quality 333 S. Capital P.O. Box 48933 Lansing, MI 48909-7957 phone: 517-373-8798 fax: 517-335-4729 email: fitznerw@state.mi.us --=_27721CB2.BBDAB6D5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:14:12 -0400 From: Lucy Doroshko To: FITZNERW@state.mi.us Subject: Green opportunity turns brown -Forwarded -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline It is unfortunate but the next e-mail about the way groundwood papers fall apart makes me think that this paper is not where we want to end up. From my experience with recycled products I have formed the opinion that recycled products are in a transition for being accepted. Many products made from metals and paper are already using recycled feedstock but the fact is not advertised. If a recycled product comes on the market and does not act or look the same as its virgin material couterpart, you will have a tough selling job--anything "different" has an inherent acceptability issue that is difficult to overcome. What I hope will happen is that more paper will be like our copy paper: recycled but looking and acting like virgin. People accept this copy paper without a qualm and yet it is 20% post-consumer; 50% total recycled.. I hope there will not be a need to promote recycled, it should just be a part of doing business and, hopefully, a cheaper way of doing business. Lucy Doroshko, Recycling Coordinator Pollution Prevention Section Environmental Assistance Division, MDEQ P.O. Box 30457 Lansing, MI 48909-7957 517/373-1322 Environmental Assistance Center 1-800-662-9278 --=_27721CB2.BBDAB6D5-- From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 10:07:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA15007 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970826141534.00c1a620@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 09:15:34 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, p2reg@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: New List Servers -- Mercury Reduction and Local Government Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We have started two new list servers! 1. P2 and Mercury Reduction 2. Local Government P2 Issues If you would be interested in discussing mercury reduction or communicating with other local government officials, please let me know and I will add you to the appropriate list. If you want more information about the lists, I would also be happy to provide it. Administrative messages should be sent to . Mercury reduction questions should be sent to . Local government questions should be sent to . Thanks, Lisa **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 11:10:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA18250 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Apparently-To: Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970826081956.00699cb8@king.cts.com> X-Sender: dmeyer@king.cts.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:19:56 -0700 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Dave Meyer Subject: diesel substitute Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Greetings!! One of my Mexican clients is presently using small amounts of diesel as a cleaning agent for it's floors in it's manufacturing facility. I would like to recommend a safe substitute that can be used. Any suggestions?? Thanks in advance... Dave Meyer Senior Advisor Quality Advisors/ Environmental & Risk Management San Diego, CA dmeyer@cts.com From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 12:50:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA23329 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:59:16 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:58:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Hammermill Paper To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D187ZWZNIK7ZO X400-Mts-Identifier: [;61952162807991/863615@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One & All, It was just over three years ago that Hammermill (International Paper) built the recycling plant. Some of the money needed came from state recycling grants in an effort to encourage such activities. Unfortunately, according to local newspaper accounts, the operation never paid for itself and the market for recycled paper never lived up to expectations. If I'm remembering correctly, about 80,000 tons of recycled paper are processed annually at the Lock Haven PA facility. Even the de-inking sludge generated in the process found its' way into a beneficial usage application dealing with mine reclamation projects. I'm sure there are several lessons to be learned from this event. From my conversations with facility personnel, I understand the plant was a potential candidate to close...only by cutting the losses created from running the recycling plant was this prevented. In fact, the facility is still looking for ways to reduce costs to be more profitable. Another facet of the problem was that offers to use the recycled product in government operation (I was told both federal and by several states) never materialized as promised...only one state reportedly came through in terms of using the product. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 15:56:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA02944 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970826160937.0076cc28@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:09:37 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Janet Clark Subject: Re: New List Servers -- Mercury Reduction and Local Government In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970826141534.00c1a620@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 09:15 AM 8/26/97 -0500, you wrote: >We have started two new list servers! > > 1. P2 and Mercury Reduction > 2. Local Government P2 Issues > >If you would be interested in discussing mercury reduction or communicating >with other local government officials, please let me know and I will add you >to the appropriate list. If you want more information about the lists, I >would also be happy to provide it. Please send me more information about each of these new lists. Thank you, Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 508-934-3346 Fax 508-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 17:12:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA06401 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:29:35 +0100 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: goudpag@hiwaay.net (peter goudreau) Subject: Re: New List Servers -- Mercury Reduction and Local Government Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Lisa-Please add my name to the 'local Gov't P2 Issues' list, Thanx, Pete Goudreau >We have started two new list servers! > > 1. P2 and Mercury Reduction > 2. Local Government P2 Issues > >If you would be interested in discussing mercury reduction or communicating >with other local government officials, please let me know and I will add you >to the appropriate list. If you want more information about the lists, I >would also be happy to provide it. > >Administrative messages should be sent to . >Mercury reduction questions should be sent to . >Local government questions should be sent to . > >Thanks, >Lisa >**************************************************************************** >Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu >List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) >IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) >One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 >**************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 17:20:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA06847 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:38:15 +0100 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: goudpag@hiwaay.net (peter goudreau) Subject: Re: New List Servers -- Mercury Reduction and Local Government Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Lisa-Please add my name to the `Local Gov't P2 Issues' list- Thanx, Petet Goudreau >We have started two new list servers! > > 1. P2 and Mercury Reduction > 2. Local Government P2 Issues > >If you would be interested in discussing mercury reduction or communicating >with other local government officials, please let me know and I will add you >to the appropriate list. If you want more information about the lists, I >would also be happy to provide it. > >Administrative messages should be sent to . >Mercury reduction questions should be sent to . >Local government questions should be sent to . > >Thanks, >Lisa >**************************************************************************** >Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu >List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) >IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) >One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 >**************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 17:58:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA08203 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708262208.RAA29186@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 17:11:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Hammermill Paper X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Mr. Illig, Could you try re-sending your message directly to me --- the message arrived blank. (see below) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:58:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Hammermill Paper To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net Rebecca Leighton Katers Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com From p2tech-owner Tue Aug 26 18:16:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA09079 for p2tech-out; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970826182746.00e3f1a4@pswp.mail.yale.edu> X-Sender: pswp@pswp.mail.yale.edu Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:27:46 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Reid Lifset Subject: Journal of Industrial Ecology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear members of the P2Tech list: I am the editor of a new publication, the Journal of Industrial Ecology. I'm writing to let you know about its availability, because I hope that you will contribute articles as authors and participate in the journal as reviewers and subscribers. The journal, which is edited at the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies and published by the MIT Press For Yale University, is an international, multi-disciplinary quarterly designed to foster understanding and practice in this emerging field. Industrial ecology systematically examines local, regional and global materials and energy uses and flows in products, processes, industrial sectors, and entire economies. It focuses on the potential role that corporations can play in protecting the environment by incorporating environmental considerations in product and process design. Industrial ecology shares much with pollution prevention -- interest in toxics use reduction, design for environment, attention to materials choice and to a lesser extent closing of materials loops and life cycle planning, design and assessment. (Industrial ecology is somewhat more focused on systems level analyses at the life cycle, sector, regional or national level and somewhat less focused on unit industrial processes than pollution prevention.) Based on what I have seen on the P2Tech list, there is much productive sharing and collaboration to be had. JIE's premiere issue, published in May, demonstrates the breadth of this developing discipline, with articles on topics such as: - Lead and Electric Vehicles - Limits to Life-Cycle Impact Assessment - Chlorine Flows and the Environment - The Kalundborg Industrial Ecosystem - Cleaner Production and Industrial Ecology - Organic Cotton at Patagonia - Design for Environment at Motorola Also included are reviews of the latest publications in industrial ecology. For a look at the complete contents of the first issue, see the journal's web page at http://mitpress.mit.edu/JIE This web page also contains information on subscribing, instructions for authors, article abstracts, a sample article, and online letters to the editor. ---------------------------------------------------------- Program on Solid Waste Policy School of Forestry and Environmental Studies Yale University 205 Prospect Street New Haven,CT 06511-2106 USA 203-432-3253 (telephone) 203-432-5912 (fax) pswp@yale.edu From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 27 10:26:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA15561 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 27 Aug 1997 10:32:25 -0400 From: "Kevin Gashlin" Subject: Park Benches and... To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP 3.0.2 b1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Is anyone aware of additional products (in addition to park benches) that can be made from waste glass-filled polyester composite? Kevin Gashlin NTTC From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 27 11:27:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA18516 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:35:43 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:22:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: CORRECTION: International Paper Recycling Plant To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:35:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D194ZWZOGKKXI X400-Mts-Identifier: [;34531172807991/865820@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One & All, I hastily posted a message yesterday and needed to make some corrections. Very sorry if I complicated the situation or misinformed. 1) I said state recycling grant money was initially involved in the project. Not true. IP reportedly funded the entire project. 2) I may have implied that there were government promises and or contracts that insured the use of the product. Not true. The confusion seems to be that government indicated that the market would develop, which did not happen. This also appears to be complicated by impressions that government might back the use of recycled products. 3) Product quality and price reportedly played a part in the situation. Competition with non-recycled paper was very stiff. Again, sorry for any misdirection. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 27 14:15:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA27971 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970827183732.006cc734@ccsinc.com> X-Sender: fmartin@ccsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:37:32 -0400 To: p2tech@cedar.cic.net From: Francis Martin Subject: New EPA Water Test Methods/Analysis CD-ROM Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech FYI, Over 330 US EPA drinking water and wastewater test methods are featured on the agency's just-released Methods and Guidance for Analysis of Water CD-ROM. The CD contains Series 500, 600, 1660 test methods; 40 CFR Parts 136-149; Methods of Chemical Analysis of Water and Wastes; Metals, inorganic and organic substances in environmental samples; and whole effluent toxicity methods. It's in PDF format for easy search & retrieval. See http://www.env-sol.com/solutions/EPAW.HTML for details. Please excuse any cross-postings. Fran Martin FM Research & Consulting Richmond, Virgina fmartin@ccsinc.com From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 27 14:20:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA28278 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:12:12 -0400 From: DANA ARNOLD To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: CORRECTION: International Paper Recycling Plant -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Just to add a bit more perspective to what happened with the 100% recycled content copier paper -- This product is made from old newspapers and magazines, which means that it is a groundwood paper (i.e., it contains a substance known as lignin). Deterioration of lignin is what causes newspapers to yellow. As a result, this product is not an archival quality product and will deteriorate. For drafts of documents and copies that you don't intend to keep, the groundwood content is not a problem, but if you intend to keep a file copy, it will become a problem over time, as other respondents have noted. Because it is a groundwood paper, the Unity copier paper cannot be added to white office paper collection programs. Here at U.S. EPA headquarters, the switch to this paper changed the value of our recyclable paper from a high value, high grade paper to a nearly valueless mixed paper. As a result, we lost revenue from our recyclable paper. In addition, there have been problems with performance. While it is true that this paper generally performed in all of our copiers, printers, and plain paper fax machines, it is also true that we frequently had to fan it in order to avoid jamming. Many paper companies thought that President Clinton's recycling executive order, which set a 20% postconsumer content standard for office papers purchased by federal agencies, would create high demand for recycled content papers. For a variety of reasons, demand has not been as high as anticipated in either the public or the private sectors. Dana Arnold Municipal Information & Analysis Branch U.S. Environmental Protection Agency 401 M Street, S.W. (5306W) Washington, DC 20460 arnold.dana@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 27 14:26:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA28642 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCB2DF.00B8E660.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Park Benches and... Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:47:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech How about "lumber" in all its varieties. Maybe "fiber-glass" insulation. What are the material characteristics of the composite? Determine the material properties, and you will uncover many great possible applications for the material. Allan Butler Concurrent Technologies Corporation 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Gashlin [SMTP:kgashlin@nttc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 1997 7:32 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Park Benches and... Is anyone aware of additional products (in addition to park benches) that can be made from waste glass-filled polyester composite? Kevin Gashlin NTTC From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 27 14:39:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA29372 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 27 Aug 1997 14:46:29 -0400 From: "Kevin Gashlin" Subject: Re(2): Park Benches and... To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP 3.0.2 b1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks, Allen. Kevin ------ From: p2tech@great-lakes.net, Wed, Aug 27, 1997 ------ How about "lumber" in all its varieties. Maybe "fiber-glass" insulation. What are the material characteristics of the composite? Determine the material properties, and you will uncover many great possible applications for the material. Allan Butler Concurrent Technologies Corporation 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Gashlin [SMTP:kgashlin@nttc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 1997 7:32 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Park Benches and... Is anyone aware of additional products (in addition to park benches) that can be made from waste glass-filled polyester composite? Kevin Gashlin NTTC ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by stark.nttc.edu with SMTP;27 Aug 1997 14:39:52 -0400 Received: from cedar.cic.net by eagle.nttc.edu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/09Apr97-0151PM) id AA28069; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:39:50 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA28642 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <01BCB2DF.00B8E660.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Park Benches and... Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:47:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech From p2tech-owner Wed Aug 27 16:46:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA05440 for p2tech-out; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 16:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970827205703.00c024a4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:57:03 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: Re: New List Servers -- Mercury Reduction and Local Government Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The Mercury Reduction list came out of discussion during the last Great Lakes Regional P2 Roundtable meeting where the topic came up repeatedly. This discussion group is designed to help discuss reduction requirements and identify pollution prevention avenues for such reductions. The local government group is designed to help local government officials communicate. Specifically, it will be headed by Tom Hersey of Erie County. Tom is the head of the NPPR local government workgroup and will be requesting comments on draft documents and meeting agendas, etc... Discussion may also arise about methods for implementing P2 in local government. To subscribe to either list, just send me an e-mail containing your name, organization and phone number. Please let me know if you have any other questions. Lisa **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 28 06:12:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id GAA24574 for p2tech-out; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 06:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Francke, Dale H." To: P2Tech Post/Reply Subject: RE: Park Benches and... Date: Thu, 28 Aug 97 06:25:00 edt Message-ID: <340551D0@pwwpgw3.pwfl.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech There is a company in Tampa Florida which has numerous products (including park benches) made from recycled plastics. Ohter than seeing their products at a P2 conference I have no other knowledge of their products. They may be of help. The information I have is: Robert D. Thornton, V.P. Consource Plastic Recycling Corp. 5615 E. Powhatan Ave. Tampa, FL 33610 (813) 626-1146 FAX: (813) 626-5339 e-mail: consadm@ix.netcom.com Hope this helps. ---------- From: Kevin Gashlin To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Park Benches and... Date: Wednesday, August 27, 1997 10:32AM Is anyone aware of additional products (in addition to park benches) that can be made from waste glass-filled polyester composite? Kevin Gashlin NTTC From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 28 09:36:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA00838 for p2tech-out; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:36:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Lotus-FromDomain: ILDCCA From: "ANNETTE LINGLEO" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <86256501.004A8FAB.00@commerce.state.il.us> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 08:41:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech The Illinois Department of Commerce & Community Affairs has a program which fits most of your criteria. The Recycling Industry Modernization Program (RIM) provides matching grants to manufacturing firms that 1: currently use recycled materials as feedstock, or 2) plan to convert operations to use recycled materials as feedstock or 3) plan to achieve significant source reduction goals. Funds can be used for costs of modernization including contractual services, consultant fees and capital equipment. For more information contact: Mike Motor at 217/785-2638 Annette Lingleo IL Dept of Commerce & Community Affairs Small Business Environmental Assistance Program Please respond to p2tech@great-lakes.net To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: (bcc: ANNETTE LINGLEO/ILDCCA) Subject: Remanufacturing I?m looking to talk with other Manufacturing Extension Partners(MEP) directly involved with: ? programs finding/connecting the use of recycled-content materials as feedstock (e.g.connecting generators of unwanted materials with users of the material) ? working with manufacturers to consider recycled-content materials as feedstock alternatives ? programs promoting the use of recycled-content materials as feedstock alternatives ? programs promoting the economic development opportunities of using recycled-content materials as feedstock Please let me know how you are affiliated with the effort: ? in-house as part of MEP program ? support as partner ? housed within same operation but separate budget From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 28 11:31:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA06465 for p2tech-out; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:28:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Wilson.Bill@epamail.epa.gov Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 08:11:16 -0700 Subject: Post-Consumer Recycled Paper To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <88256501.00519945.00@RTNTEMAIL.RTRT2144.EPA.GOV> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech (436.3 7-23-1997)) id 85256501.0055FA82 ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:39:06 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA "Forbes" September 8, 1997 issue has a brief article regarding financing pulp mills which touches upon the theme discussed here the last week. The article includes a chart of 7 pulp mills built with tax-exempt bonds, all of which are in default or close to it. Four of the mills are closed. Forbes attributes this "costly lesson for bondholders" to cyclical price fluctuations in the pulp market. Virgin hardwood pulp from Indonesia has flooded the market, says Forbes, undercutting the de-inked pulp by 25%. The governmental demand for paper with 30% recycled content is apparently not enough to offset this price differential. While it may seem like we feds churn out more, our paper use is less than 5% of the national total, I have been told. Short of direct subsidization of de-inked pulp (which just ain't gonna happen), what is YOUR idea for dealing with this issue? ************************************************************************* Bill Wilson, EPA Region 9 Pollution Prevention Coordinator 75 Hawthorne Street (WST-1-1), San Francisco CA 94105 phone 415.744.2192 fax 415.744.1796 email wilson.bill@epamail.epa.gov ************************************************************************* From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 28 12:25:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA09162 for p2tech-out; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 12:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:37:48 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970828113530.2e476eee@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: gmiller@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Gary Miller Subject: Re: Post-Consumer Recycled Paper Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Bill, Increased consumer demand seems one clear strategy. Besides you feds we need to get all of government demanding this paper and we need to educate businesses and the general public. Also of concern to me is finding ways to encourge use of recycled materials versus harveting trees. Especialy trees from half way around the world. Apparently transportation costs are not prohibitive. does the Forbes article consider the environmental costs of using this cheaper pulp? Also, has consumer demand for recycled content paper actually declined? At 08:11 AM 8/28/97 -0700, you wrote: >(436.3 7-23-1997)) id 85256501.0055FA82 ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:39:06 -0400 >X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA > >"Forbes" September 8, 1997 issue has a brief article regarding financing >pulp mills which touches upon the theme discussed here the last week. The >article includes a chart of 7 pulp mills built with tax-exempt bonds, all >of which are in default or close to it. Four of the mills are closed. >Forbes attributes this "costly lesson for bondholders" to cyclical price >fluctuations in the pulp market. Virgin hardwood pulp from Indonesia has >flooded the market, says Forbes, undercutting the de-inked pulp by 25%. > >The governmental demand for paper with 30% recycled content is apparently >not enough to offset this price differential. While it may seem like we >feds churn out more, our paper use is less than 5% of the national total, I >have been told. Short of direct subsidization of de-inked pulp (which >just ain't gonna happen), what is YOUR idea for dealing with this issue? > >************************************************************************* >Bill Wilson, EPA Region 9 Pollution Prevention Coordinator >75 Hawthorne Street (WST-1-1), San Francisco CA 94105 >phone 415.744.2192 fax 415.744.1796 email wilson.bill@epamail.epa.gov >************************************************************************* > > > > ******************************************************************* Gary D. Miller Illinois Waste Management and Research Center One East Hazelwood Drive Champaign, IL 61820 217/333-8942 phone 217/333-8944 fax gmiller@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu ****************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 28 13:10:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA11271 for p2tech-out; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <3405B39E.199D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 10:21:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Hammermill Response to me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi P2 Tech! I emailed Hammermill to express my displeasure with their decision to discontinue their 100% recycled papers. Here is my intial email and their response. I understand their problem, which is pretty much typical of the problems any firm involved with recycling encounters: Lack of market for recycled goods. It's just too bad it didn't work out. Gerard > > Subject: Are you dropping recycled papers? > > Author: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com at INTERNET > > Date: 8/25/97 7:48 PM > > > > I heard through the Pollution Prevention Tech listserv that you are > > dropping your recycled papers from your lines. > > > > Is this true? > > > > If so, shame on you! > > > > I am a recycling business that relies on the recycled papers available > > to me from retail outlets. Since yours are some of the most common > > recycled papers, you are doing the world a disservice by dropping your > > production of recycled paper. > > > > The biggest problem with recycling is finding markets for collected > > materials. Without your production to use recycled paper, the price for > > collected paper will drop, and many people in the recycling industry > > will be put out of work, just when we were beginning to reach our > > recycling goals. > > > > Please forward this message to: > > > > Rick Smith, Vice President > > Printing and Office Paper > > Hammermill > > 6400 Poplar Avenue > > Memphis, TN 38197 > > > > Thank you. > > > > Gerard Forgnone, Plastic Oil Products > > g-whiz@ix.netcom.com > > 805-937-3050 > > -- > > BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz > > G-Whiz Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 > > BOB product review: http://www.atving.com/editor/techtips/bob.htm > > BOB Testimonials: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277/testim.htm > > ---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes --------------------------- > > From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com at INTERNET > > Date: 8/25/97 7:48PM -0400 > > To: COMM at IP01_Purchase_Office > > Subject: Are you dropping recycled papers? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Dear Mr. Forgnone, > > We appreciate your support for our 100% recycled paper grades. Despite > having dedicated users like yourself, the demand for these products has > not grown to the level that justifies continued operation of the > manufacturing unit. This has been a difficult decision; but after > nearly four years of operation we will permanently close the Lock Haven, > PA deinking facility and recycling operation this fall. We have tried > to provide enough notice to allow our distributors and their customers > time to find replacement grades. > > Our investment in the deinking technology at Lock Haven was based on > marketing research, including input from government agencies and > environmental groups. This research indicated that there would be a > good market for a 100% recycled product made from old newspapers and > magazines. However, the market never met price nor volume expectations. > In short, the price the product has commanded in the market does not > offset the cost to produce it. > > We share your disappointment and regret that we must discontinue > production. Be assured that we reamin committed to environmental > stewardship. Also, many of our grades will continue to contain 20% post > consumer waste and we are prepared to move the 30% level in 1999 as > specified in President Clinton's Executive Order. > Thank you for your personal commitment to the environment, and for > taking the time to contact International Paper with your concern. > > Sincerely, > > Hammermill Papers From p2tech-owner Thu Aug 28 18:28:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA25792 for p2tech-out; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 18:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970828224353.006cb6a4@mozcom.com> X-Sender: hamnghee@mozcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 06:43:53 +0800 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Burt Hamner & Annette Ghee Subject: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero discharge requirement Cc: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech P2 Techers: I am forwarding to you this request that was sent to the Infoterra listserv, along with my response, in case any one has some additional info they would like to pass on to the original sender. >Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:02:58 -0500 >From: Alejandro Fernandez >Organization: Universidad de los Andes >To: infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >Subject: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero discharge requirement >Sender: owner-infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >Reply-To: Alejandro Fernandez >Content-Length: 920 > >Can someone help me? I am interested in options for management >(treatment, recovery) of pickling liquors wastes from wire >manufacturing. The tricky part is that a "zero-discharge" condition must >be contemplated in the analysis. A volume of up to 120 m3 must be >managed, 50% from HCl pickling liquor and 50% H2SO4 pickling liquor >(waste stream separation has not been implemented yet but is being >considered for the near future). >Hydrolisis for HCl and Fe oxide recovery appers to be financially out of >range. >I would greatly appreciate any information that may assist to address >this challenge. Please send responses directly to sender. Thank you in >advance. > >Alejandro Fernandez, PE, QEP, CHMM >e-mail: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co >- Mr. Fernandez: Several years ago I helped a company in Seattle prepare a pollution prevention and they had the same problem as you, and a very interesting solution. The Davis Wire Company had to dispose of high volumes of acid from wire pickling. Previously they had been neutralizing it for sewer disposal. However they found out that sulfuric acid is a primary ingredient of certain kinds of fertilizer, and iron contamination of the fertilizer is not a problem since the stuff is applied to the soil from whence comes the minerals anyway. So they purchased a small fertilizer production facility and put it at the end of the pickling liquor drain, and they sell the fertilizer they make to farmers in Eastern Washington. Their engineer told me they seem to make more profits from fertilizer sales than from wire sales and he was wondering what industry he was in! Hope this inspires some creative thinking for your clients. Burt Hamner Asian Institute of Management Manila From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 09:00:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA19274 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 08:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 29 Aug 1997 08:03:42 -0400 From: "Kevin Gashlin" Subject: Re(2): Park Benches and... To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP 3.0.2 b1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thank you, Robert. Kevin ------ From: p2tech@great-lakes.net, Thu, Aug 28, 1997 ------ There is a company in Tampa Florida which has numerous products (including park benches) made from recycled plastics. Ohter than seeing their products at a P2 conference I have no other knowledge of their products. They may be of help. The information I have is: Robert D. Thornton, V.P. Consource Plastic Recycling Corp. 5615 E. Powhatan Ave. Tampa, FL 33610 (813) 626-1146 FAX: (813) 626-5339 e-mail: consadm@ix.netcom.com Hope this helps. ---------- From: Kevin Gashlin To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Park Benches and... Date: Wednesday, August 27, 1997 10:32AM Is anyone aware of additional products (in addition to park benches) that can be made from waste glass-filled polyester composite? Kevin Gashlin NTTC ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by stark.nttc.edu with SMTP;28 Aug 1997 14:40:08 -0400 Received: from cedar.cic.net by eagle.nttc.edu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/09Apr97-0151PM) id AA04437; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 06:34:18 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id GAA24574 for p2tech-out; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 06:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Francke, Dale H." To: P2Tech Post/Reply Subject: RE: Park Benches and... Date: Thu, 28 Aug 97 06:25:00 edt Message-Id: <340551D0@pwwpgw3.pwfl.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 09:00:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA19296 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 09:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970829131106.009880e4@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 08:11:06 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Subject: Blank Messages? Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Has experienced a recurrence of the blank messages lately? Please e-mail me directly if you have, rather than responding to the entire list. Thanks, Lisa **************************************************************************** Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 **************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 09:05:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA19544 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 09:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 09:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708291315.JAA01947@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: tgreiner@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: tgreiner@tiac.net (tgreiner) Subject: Re: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero discharge requirement Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Has the firm examined the use of acid recovery systems using diffusion dialysis such as those manufactured by Zero Discharge, Inc.? The systems have been installed in a variety of acid recovery operations and typcially are cost effective when the adopting company has difficulty with spikes in its discharge. Zero Discharge can be reached at 413-593-5477. One cautionary note on the beneficial reuse of pickling sludge -- depending upon the alloy content of the wire being pickled, the sludge may contain heavy metals at sufficient enough concentration to be of a concern (e.g. Cr, Ni, etc). Its really amazing to me that we are still using an acid process to perform what could be accomplished using a physical process. The pickling proces's cheif purpose is to remove scale, oils, and (in some cases) the metal oxide layer. Has anyone seen a mechanical system that could meet these performance criteria without using acids? Tim >P2 Techers: I am forwarding to you this request that was sent to the >Infoterra listserv, along with my response, in case any one has some >additional info they would like to pass on to the original sender. > > >>Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:02:58 -0500 >>From: Alejandro Fernandez >>Organization: Universidad de los Andes >>To: infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >>Subject: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero >discharge requirement >>Sender: owner-infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >>Reply-To: Alejandro Fernandez >>Content-Length: 920 >> >>Can someone help me? I am interested in options for management >>(treatment, recovery) of pickling liquors wastes from wire >>manufacturing. The tricky part is that a "zero-discharge" condition must >>be contemplated in the analysis. A volume of up to 120 m3 must be >>managed, 50% from HCl pickling liquor and 50% H2SO4 pickling liquor >>(waste stream separation has not been implemented yet but is being >>considered for the near future). >>Hydrolisis for HCl and Fe oxide recovery appers to be financially out of >>range. >>I would greatly appreciate any information that may assist to address >>this challenge. Please send responses directly to sender. Thank you in >>advance. >> >>Alejandro Fernandez, PE, QEP, CHMM >>e-mail: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co >>- > >Mr. Fernandez: >Several years ago I helped a company in Seattle prepare a pollution >prevention and they had the same problem as you, and a very interesting >solution. The Davis Wire Company had to dispose of high volumes of acid >from wire pickling. Previously they had been neutralizing it for sewer >disposal. However they found out that sulfuric acid is a primary ingredient >of certain kinds of fertilizer, and iron contamination of the fertilizer is >not a problem since the stuff is applied to the soil from whence comes the >minerals anyway. So they purchased a small fertilizer production facility >and put it at the end of the pickling liquor drain, and they sell the >fertilizer they make to farmers in Eastern Washington. Their engineer told >me they seem to make more profits from fertilizer sales than from wire sales >and he was wondering what industry he was in! Hope this inspires some >creative thinking for your clients. > >Burt Hamner >Asian Institute of Management >Manila > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Timothy J. Greiner Greiner Environmental 2 Emily Lane Gloucester, MA 01930 tel: 508-525-2214 fax: 508-525-2247 tgreiner@tiac.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 10:25:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA23599 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:24:56 -0400 (EDT) From: robert_michalowicz@bovar.com X-Authentication-Warning: scrooge.cadvision.com: bovar set sender to robert_michalowicz@bovar.com using -f Date: Fri, 29 Aug 97 08:49:22 Message-Id: <9707298728.AA872869762@bovar.bovar.com> To: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with ze Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech There can never be true "zero discharge" at a steel pickling operation because the iron which is removed as scale from the pickled steel must be rejected from the process. For spent sulphuric acid pickle liquors, the typical waste reduction solution for a small pickler is to install an acid recovery system and generate ferrous sulphate crystals for sale (or precipitate the iron as a hydroxide sludge for disposal). For spent hydrochloric acid pickle liquors, some small pickling operations neutralize the residual acid and send the solution to a nearby sewage treatment plant where the iron chlorides are beneficial for phosphate removal. Others send the spent pickle liquor to larger steel mills who have the roaster which can recover hydrochloric acid and generate iron oxides for re-use. I did hear of one U.S. steel mill that ran a process which recovered HCl from spent pickle liquors through the precipitation of first ferrous hydroxide and then calcium sulphate. Another tried a process that recovered HCl through the addition of sulphuric acid and evaporation of HCl gas, but it shut down because of extreme corrosion problems. I hope this is helpful. Robert Michalowicz BOVAR Environmental 2 Tippett Rd. Toronto, Ontario Canada M8Y 2K3 (416) 630-6331 robert_michalowicz@bovar.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech at INTERNET Date: 8/28/97 6:06 PM P2 Techers: I am forwarding to you this request that was sent to the Infoterra listserv, along with my response, in case any one has some additional info they would like to pass on to the original sender. >Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:02:58 -0500 >From: Alejandro Fernandez >Organization: Universidad de los Andes >To: infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >Subject: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero discharge requirement >Sender: owner-infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >Reply-To: Alejandro Fernandez >Content-Length: 920 > >Can someone help me? I am interested in options for management >(treatment, recovery) of pickling liquors wastes from wire >manufacturing. The tricky part is that a "zero-discharge" condition must >be contemplated in the analysis. A volume of up to 120 m3 must be >managed, 50% from HCl pickling liquor and 50% H2SO4 pickling liquor >(waste stream separation has not been implemented yet but is being >considered for the near future). >Hydrolisis for HCl and Fe oxide recovery appers to be financially out of >range. >I would greatly appreciate any information that may assist to address >this challenge. Please send responses directly to sender. Thank you in >advance. > >Alejandro Fernandez, PE, QEP, CHMM >e-mail: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co >- Mr. Fernandez: Several years ago I helped a company in Seattle prepare a pollution prevention and they had the same problem as you, and a very interesting solution. The Davis Wire Company had to dispose of high volumes of acid from wire pickling. Previously they had been neutralizing it for sewer disposal. However they found out that sulfuric acid is a primary ingredient of certain kinds of fertilizer, and iron contamination of the fertilizer is not a problem since the stuff is applied to the soil from whence comes the minerals anyway. So they purchased a small fertilizer production facility and put it at the end of the pickling liquor drain, and they sell the fertilizer they make to farmers in Eastern Washington. Their engineer told me they seem to make more profits from fertilizer sales than from wire sales and he was wondering what industry he was in! Hope this inspires some creative thinking for your clients. Burt Hamner Asian Institute of Management Manila From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 11:03:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA25530 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708291513.KAA03012@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:07:07 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I'm concerned about the use of potentially contaminated wastes as fertilizers, as described in the attached message. A recent series of articles in the Seattle Times documented several abuses of this practice. Apparently, fertlizers are barely regulated in terms of quality. Other than the N-P-K nutrient requirements or other active ingredients, little is tested. The "inert" ingredients or fillers can be virtually anything, even containing contaminated wastes. Government oversight, sampling and quality control is almost non-existent. EPA has just established a new working group to investigate the issue of potential fertilizer contamination. Specifically, what are all the chemical constituents and concentrations in used metal pickling liquors? Does anyone on this list know? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 06:43:53 +0800 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Burt Hamner & Annette Ghee Subject: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero discharge requirement Cc: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net P2 Techers: I am forwarding to you this request that was sent to the Infoterra listserv, along with my response, in case any one has some additional info they would like to pass on to the original sender. >Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:02:58 -0500 >From: Alejandro Fernandez >Organization: Universidad de los Andes >To: infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >Subject: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero discharge requirement >Sender: owner-infoterra@cedar.univie.ac.at >Reply-To: Alejandro Fernandez >Content-Length: 920 > >Can someone help me? I am interested in options for management >(treatment, recovery) of pickling liquors wastes from wire >manufacturing. The tricky part is that a "zero-discharge" condition must >be contemplated in the analysis. A volume of up to 120 m3 must be >managed, 50% from HCl pickling liquor and 50% H2SO4 pickling liquor >(waste stream separation has not been implemented yet but is being >considered for the near future). >Hydrolisis for HCl and Fe oxide recovery appers to be financially out of >range. >I would greatly appreciate any information that may assist to address >this challenge. Please send responses directly to sender. Thank you in >advance. > >Alejandro Fernandez, PE, QEP, CHMM >e-mail: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co >- Mr. Fernandez: Several years ago I helped a company in Seattle prepare a pollution prevention and they had the same problem as you, and a very interesting solution. The Davis Wire Company had to dispose of high volumes of acid from wire pickling. Previously they had been neutralizing it for sewer disposal. However they found out that sulfuric acid is a primary ingredient of certain kinds of fertilizer, and iron contamination of the fertilizer is not a problem since the stuff is applied to the soil from whence comes the minerals anyway. So they purchased a small fertilizer production facility and put it at the end of the pickling liquor drain, and they sell the fertilizer they make to farmers in Eastern Washington. Their engineer told me they seem to make more profits from fertilizer sales than from wire sales and he was wondering what industry he was in! Hope this inspires some creative thinking for your clients. Burt Hamner Asian Institute of Management Manila Rebecca Leighton Katers Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 12:51:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA01004 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:00:00 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:37:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Use of Pickling Liquor To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, alfernan@uniandes.edu.co Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:00:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D131ZWZQIKAA1 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;00003192807991/870955@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Alejandro et al, H2SO4 waste may be used as a replacement for ferric chloride in some municipal waste water treatment systems. Unfortunately I have no knowledge of the specific chemistries involved in the treatment system. The plant is City of Lebanon Water Authority in Pennsylvania, phone 717-865-2191, contact was Ron Luciotti. HCl may also be used as a replacement chemical is some municipal waste water treatment systems. I am unsure if this usage, like for the H2SO4 above, is as a replacement for ferric chloride, or as a part of another type of treatment chemistry. In this case I believe the HCl went to a treatment plant in Washington (DC). You may try talking with treatment plant operators in an effort to determine the conditions under which these uses may occur. In the above referenced H2SO4 usage, the treatment plant even initially paid for the transportation. Now I believe the company pays for the transport, but it is still a winning situation as best I am aware. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 20:33:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA20219 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 20:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:40:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199708300040.RAA11595@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with ze To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In-Reply-To: <9707298728.AA872869762@bovar.bovar.com> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have done some work with the EPA Common Sense Initiative (Iron and Steel) regarding the recycling of pickle liquor. There is a process for removing scale from wire that uses NO pickle liquor. It is based on ultrasonices or some other physical means. I am currently at Edwards Air Force Base on a pollution prevention assignment. I will post information on this system when I return to my office in Cambridge, Massachusetts. During the work with the EPA project, several firms derived means for drastically reducing the use of pickle liquor BEFORE recycling. Some macho engineers like to design large systems and did not try to reduce the amounts before implementing recycling. Very interesting. Robert B. Pojasek, Ph.D. Cambridge Environmental Inc. 58 Charles St. Cambridge, MA 02141 (617) 225-0812 (617) 225-0813 (F) http://www.CambridgeEnvironmental.com From p2tech-owner Fri Aug 29 20:46:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA20663 for p2tech-out; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 20:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:56:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199708300056.RAA17831@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with ze To: p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have done some work with the EPA Common Sense Initiative (Iron and Steel) regarding the recycling of pickle liquor. There is a process for removing scale from wire that uses NO pickle liquor. It is based on ultrasonices or some other physical means. I am currently at Edwards Air Force Base on a pollution prevention assignment. I will post information on this system when I return to my office in Cambridge, Massachusetts. During the work with the EPA project, several firms derived means for drastically reducing the use of pickle liquor BEFORE recycling. Some macho engineers like to design large systems and did not try to reduce the amounts before implementing recycling. Very interesting. Robert B. Pojasek, Ph.D. Cambridge Environmental Inc. 58 Charles St. Cambridge, MA 02141 (617) 225-0812 (617) 225-0813 (F) http://www.CambridgeEnvironmental.com From p2tech-owner Sat Aug 30 09:13:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA08805 for p2tech-out; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 09:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 08:22:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199708301322.IAA14821@mx2.io.com> X-Sender: jamesem@mail.io.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Michael R. James" Subject: Re: Green opportunity turns brown Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 01:26 PM 8/25/97 -0700, you wrote: >It has come to my attention that one of the suppliers of post-consumer >paper is no longer going to offer the paper for sale. International >Paper, which produces both Unity (Hammermill) and Incentive 100 >(Springhill) paper is discontinuing these lines. These paper products >are preferred because they contain 100% recycled, 50% post-consumer paper >content, and the paper used is produced using secondarily chlorine free >process. The paper works well in fax, printer, and copy machines. >Information I have received indicates that the IP mill in Pennsylvania, >which produces the paper, is in substantial compliance with environmental >regulations. > >I am concerned that this supplier of environmentally preferrable paper is >planning to discontinue these lines starting October 1st. This will >impact the good work we all pursue in terms of "walking our talk" with >the purchasing of green alternatives. > >If you share this concern, write to: > > Rick Smith, Vice President > Printing and Office Paper > Hammermill > 6400 Poplar Avenue > Memphis, TN 38197 > >and let him know! > >Margaret Nover >Portland Pollution Prevention > >PS. Wish I had an email address for Rick, but I don't. > ****************************** Is it possible that the reason why the product line is being discontinued, is because people do not purchase it. Maybe encouraging others to purchase the material will help create a market, and then this becomes a wise business decision for the company to continue making what the market wants. Michael R. James 1004 Lime Rock Drive Round Rock, TX 78681 512-244-3631 512-244-0853 fax jamesem@io.com From p2tech-owner Sat Aug 30 09:17:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA08896 for p2tech-out; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 09:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 08:26:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199708301326.IAA14854@mx2.io.com> X-Sender: jamesem@mail.io.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Michael R. James" Subject: Re: diesel substitute Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 08:19 AM 8/26/97 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings!! One of my Mexican clients is presently using small amounts of >diesel as a cleaning agent for it's floors in it's manufacturing facility. >I would like to recommend a safe substitute that can be used. Any >suggestions?? > >Thanks in advance... > >Dave Meyer >Senior Advisor >Quality Advisors/ Environmental & Risk Management >San Diego, CA >dmeyer@cts.com > >**************** What is the floor made of and what is getting on it that needs to be cleaned Michael R. James 1004 Lime Rock Drive Round Rock, TX 78681 512-244-3631 512-244-0853 fax jamesem@io.com From p2tech-owner Sun Aug 31 08:07:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA11509 for p2tech-out; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 08:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <34095ED3.12D7@glvt.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 14:08:51 +0200 From: hans schnitzer Organization: tu-graz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: New List Servers -- Mercury Reduction and Local Government References: <2.2.32.19970826141534.00c1a620@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech List Manager wrote: > > We have started two new list servers! > > 1. P2 and Mercury Reduction > 2. Local Government P2 Issues > > If you would be interested in discussing mercury reduction or communicating > with other local government officials, please let me know and I will add you > to the appropriate list. If you want more information about the lists, I > would also be happy to provide it. > > Administrative messages should be sent to . > Mercury reduction questions should be sent to . > Local government questions should be sent to . > > Thanks, > Lisa > **************************************************************************** > Lisa C. Morrison listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu > List Manager 217.244.6061 (v) > IL Waste Management and Research Ctr. 217.333.8944 (f) > One East Hazelwood Dr. Champaign, Illinois 61820 > **************************************************************************** Please could you put me on the local government list server ?!?! schnitzer@glvt.tu-graz.ac.at Thanks! Hans Schnitzer From p2tech-owner Sun Aug 31 20:59:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA01223 for p2tech-out; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709010109.UAA11394@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 20:09:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Green opportunity turns brown X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I don't think anyone on this list should condemn themselves for not working hard enough to promote the Hammermill Unity paper. Several local, regional and national groups tried to encourage citizen and government purchases of this paper. The real problem is that paper companies give too little effort to ADVERTISING, MARKETING, AND AGGRESSIVELY BROKERING paper products which have better environmental characteristics. I don't recall seeing International Paper ads for the Hammermill Unity line of paper....) Was the Hammermill Unity paper accessible to consumers? Was it stocked in office supply stores? I don't ever remember seeing it there. Many preferable products are not promoted or stocked aggressively. A few do-gooders can't begin to match the negative effect of sexy corporate advertising which encourages people to buy chlorine-bleached paper, plastic junk, gas-hog vehicles, chemical foods, and every other glossy, colorful, wasteful piece of nonsense our degenerate culture dreams up. It just happens that International Paper Company (one of the world's largest paper corporations) is NOTa friend to the totally-chlorine-free paper movement. They are one of the most pushy companies BLOCKING citizen efforts. It's ironic that so many environmentalists worked so hard to promote Hammermill Unity paper as a processed chlorine free product. It wouldn't surprise me at all if IP is closing this one mill to try to make the (false) point that "the consumer doesn't want recycled or non-chlorine products," in order to undercut citizen efforts to build consumer awareness. Unfortunately, the public buys what they're told to buy, and they can only buy what's available. > ******************************************************** Is it possible that the reason why the product line is being discontinued, is because people do not purchase it. Maybe encouraging others to purchase the material will help create a market, and then this becomes a wise business decision for the company to continue making what the market wants. Michael R. James 1004 Lime Rock Drive Round Rock, TX 78681 512-244-3631 512-244-0853 fax jamesem@io.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Rebecca Leighton Katers Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com