From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 2 07:53:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA27424 for p2tech-out; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 07:51:10 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 05:01:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199709021201.FAA04816@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Acid-free metal cleaning for wire production To: alfernan@uniandes.edu.co, p2tech@great-lakes.net X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I posted a message last week about the replacement of pickle liquor in a wire casing operation. The article was in the Dec. 1966 issue of POLLUTION ENGINEERING magazine on page 47. The equipment is a DynaPower ultrasound/electrolysis cleaner made by DynaMotive Technologies Corp. in Vancouver. At the Nucor Wire Inc. plant the toxic solid output alone was down 550 - 600 percent compared to conventional systems that clean metal with pickle acids. The system creates chemical reactions by the electrolysis in a shallow bath of hot water that contains "harmless" dissolved salts. DC electrical current passes through this aqueous electrolyte to the wire, repeatedly alternating the wire polarity from anodic to cathodic. The wire's dwell tiem in the electrolysis bath is measured in seconds at the cleaning systems speed of 250 - 300 ft./min. This weakens the bond between surface scale and the metal underneath. After cleaning in the electrolysis bath, the wire proceeds through a series of low-pressure water jets through which pass shore compression waves of ultrasound. When these waves encounter debris loosened by electrolysis, they "literally blast it away." The wire is then rinsed in clean water and dried with air jets. The wire exits the system pH neutral which keeps it from oxidizing upon re-exposure to air. Capital costs amounted to about $200,000 installed. This goes to show you that there is nothing offering zero pollution. The wastewater will need to be treated to remove the metals from the wire. There will be a sludge. But we did get rid of the acid!!! We are also probably using more energy to run this little system. Jacksonville Naval Air Station went to zero discharge of water. They are using hydrogen peroxide (requiring Process Safety requirements) to treat the water and have to evaporate the water and dispose of the salts as a hazardous waste. They did achieve zero discharge of WATER. Think about it. Robert B. Pojasek, Ph.D. Cambridge Environmental Inc. 58 Charles St. Cambridge, MA 02141 (617) 225-0812 (617) 225-0813 (F) http://www.CambridgeEnvironmental.com From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 2 11:29:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA07408 for p2tech-out; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:28:29 -0400 (EDT) From: AFYInc@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970902104857_213015108@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: INFOTERRA: HCl + H2SO4 pickle liquors waste mgmt with zero discharge requ... Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Mr. Fernandez: I know of a company, Green Technology Group, who sells a technology that recovers the chemicals from pickling liquors. It takes a sidestream from the acid tank to diffusion dialysis, the effluent the dialysis goes to a crystallizer to make metal salts. I do not know the technology well and am not endorsing it. You might wish to contact them for more information: Douglas R. Olsen, President 914-855-5468, 914-855-5806 fax 914-855-5468 914-855-5806 fax GREENTG@aol.com or Mark Klein, Marketing Manager 914-855-0331 Alan F. Yen, Ph.D., P.E. AFY, Inc. Swarthmore, PA 19081 USA Phone: 610-604-0363 Fax: 610-604-0364 email: AFYInc@aol.com From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 2 14:14:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA15292 for p2tech-out; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: KATERSJ@gbms01.uwgb.edu Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:25:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Nitric acid To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <01IN6309R3T40000XN@gbms01.uwgb.edu> X-VMS-To: in%"p2tech@great-lakes.net" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have been working with a company that uses a 3% nitric acid solution to etch film. The process is currently exhausted to the outside. They want to reduce the odor from the process and are trying to determine what options may be available to them. They have thought about using an activated carbon filter. Has anybody encountered similar situations or know of other options that may be feasible for this company? ******************************************************************** John F. Katers, Ph.D. University of Wisconsin-Solid and Hazardous Waste Education Center 2420 Nicolet Drive Environmental Science 317 Green Bay, WI 54311-7001 katersj@uwgb.edu Phone (920) 465-2941 FAX (920) 465-2143 ********************************************************************* From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 2 18:00:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA25840 for p2tech-out; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 18:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <340C7F71.2FEB@unr.edu> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 14:04:49 -0700 From: Kevin Dick Organization: Business Environmental Program, NV SBDC, UNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: P2@ucsd.edu CC: nppr@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Position Announcement Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1B1E715D7DAC" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1B1E715D7DAC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by equinox.unr.edu id PAA14157 Below and attached in Word document and text files please find a position announcement for a hazardous waste management specialist position with the Business Environmmental Program of the University of Nevada, Reno. If you have experience with hazardous waste management, pollution prevention, small business operations, and databases please consider applying. The Reno/Lake Tahoe area offers tremendous outdoor recreation opportunities and low cost air access to most west coast locations. As a university program, we enjoy a tremendous benfits package as well as acess to university facilities and events.=20 =20 The Business Environmental Program has experienced expanding funding and assistance program activities since originally established in 1988. Our affilitation with the Small Business Development Center allows us to take business oriented approaches to implementation of pollution prevention projects. I appreciate you assistance in posting the attached announcement or forwarding this e-mail to others who may be interested. POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT Date: September 2, 1997 Department: Nevada Small Business Development Center/ Business Environmental Program Position Title: Hazardous Waste Management Specialist (HWMS) Qualifications: Bachelor=92s degree in engineering, physical sciences, o= r related field. Minimum of two years experience in environmental management or with an environmental regulatory agency is required.=20 Candidate should be prepared to apply for Nevada Certification as a Certified Environmental Manager or Hazardous Waste Management Specialist. Position requires excellent inter-personal, communication, public speaking, writing skills and good command of English language.=20 Concepts of pollution prevention and waste reduction techniques essential. Understanding of the regulatory structure and regulations affecting small businesses imperative. Applicant must possess knowledge of processes and operations typically used by industry and small businesses (dry-cleaning, autorepair/autobody) and the waste streams generated. Candidate must be proficient or possess the ability to become proficient in computer applications including, but not limited to, Microsoft Office products, relational and hierarchical database management systems (dBASE, Access, PC-Focus) and the Internet. Responsibilities: The HWMS is responsible for providing technical assistance to Nevada businesses through conducting on-site assessments of waste management and pollution prevention practices at businesses and offering personal counseling to businesses across the state; developing and presenting training seminars on hazardous waste management and pollution prevention to the business community across the state; providing assistance through a toll-free assistance line; and writing fact sheets, manuals, and newsletter articles for publication and distribution to businesses. This position provides data support services which includes managing several databases; auditing the accuracy of data entry; creating and running reports; catering to specific data inquiries; transferring data; managing student workers; managing a website of program information; and maintaining a mail list for marketing of services. This position is also involved in program outreach efforts through group presentations to trade associations, economic development agencies, and at various trade shows and conferences. Salary : Commensurate with experience.=20 Procedure: Mail or fax resume and references by 10/06/97 to: Search Committee/Hazardous Waste Management Specialist Nevada Small Business Development Center/032 University of Nevada, Reno Reno, NV 89557-0100 Phone: 702-784-1717 or 689-6677 Fax: 702-784-4337 The University of Nevada is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer and does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, age, creed, national origin, veteran status, physical or mental disability, and in accordance with University policy, sexual orientation, in any program or activity it operates. 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Position Title: Hazardous Waste Management Specialist (HWMS) Qualifications: Bachelor's degree in engineering, physical sciences, or related field. Minimum of two years experience in environmental management or with an environmental regulatory agency is required. Candidate should be prepared to apply for Nevada Certification as a Certified Environmental Manager or Hazardous Waste Management Specialist. Position requires excellent inter-personal, communication, public speaking, writing skills and good command of English language. Concepts of pollution prevention and waste reduction techniques essential. Understanding of the regulatory structure and regulations affecting small businesses imperative. Applicant must possess knowledge of processes and operations typically used by industry and small businesses (dry-cleaning, autorepair/autobody) and the waste streams generated. Candidate must be proficient or possess the ability to become proficient in computer applications including, but not limited to, Microsoft Office products, r! elational and hierarchical database management systems (dBASE, Access, PC-Focus) and the Internet. Responsibilities: The HWMS is responsible for providing technical assistance to Nevada businesses through conducting on-site assessments of waste management and pollution prevention practices at businesses and offering personal counseling to businesses across the state; developing and presenting training seminars on hazardous waste management and pollution prevention to the business community across the state; providing assistance through a toll-free assistance line; and writing fact sheets, manuals, and newsletter articles for publication and distribution to businesses. This position provides data support services which includes managing several databases; auditing the accuracy of data entry; creating and running reports; catering to specific data inquiries; transferring data; managing student workers; managing a website of program information; and maintaining a mail list for marketing of services. This position is also involved in program outreach efforts through group ! presentations to trade associations, economic development agencies, and at various trade shows and conferences. Salary : Commensurate with experience. Procedure: Mail or fax resume and references by 10/06/97 to: Search Committee/Hazardous Waste Management Specialist Nevada Small Business Development Center/032 University of Nevada, Reno Reno, NV 89557-0100 Phone: 702-784-1717 or 689-6677 Fax: 702-784-4337 The University of Nevada is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer and does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, age, creed, national origin, veteran status, physical or mental disability, and in accordance with University policy, sexual orientation, in any program or activity it operates. University of Nevada employs only United States citizens and aliens lawfully authorized to work in the United States. --------------1B1E715D7DAC-- From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 3 13:10:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA00908 for p2tech-out; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "'Angie Pitcock'" , "'Bernie Hayes'" , "'Bob Burgess'" , "'Bob Fernandez'" , "'Bob Goldberg'" , "'Caroline Hill'" To: "'Cathy Libertz'" , "'COL Carr'" , "'Dan Ahern'" , "'Dave Liebl'" , "'Don Huisingh in the Netherlands'" , "'Dong Hyun Kim in Korea'" To: "'Doug McCurry'" , "'Elizabeth Brown at IAMS'" , "'Emma Lou George'" , "'Fritz Balkau @ UNEP in Paris'" , "'Irv Hess (PA retiree)'" , "'Jancie Hatcher'" To: "'Jeff Burke at EPA Region III'" , "'Jerry Alert at SC DHEC'" , "'Jerry Zolkowski at GA Tech'" , "'Jim Stokoe at LOS'" , "'John Scarboro'" , "'Kirsten Oldenburg'" To: "'Langdon Warner at USC'" , "'LeAnn Herren'" , "'Louis Bordenave'" , "'Lisa Morrison - P2Tech'" , "'Louis Paley at Envirosense'" , "'Mary Joyce Freibert at KPPC'" To: "'Myles Morse'" , "'Nancy Grundahl, EPA III'" , "'NEWMOA'" , "'NPPR listserve - distribution'" , "'P2tech listserve distribution'" , "'Paul Miner (Navy - Puget Sound)'" To: "'Rebecca Lallier'" , "'Rick Wimberly at Amerace'" , "'Susan Dooley at Earthgrains Bakery'" , "'Teresa Garrett'" , "'Tom Zosel at 3M'" , "'Tyrone Foster - NPPR and P2Trainer'" To: "'Warren Weinstein'" <75152.1416@compuserve.com>, "Mantooth, Jim G." , "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." , "Scheffler, Peter K." , "Williams, Ronald J." Cc: "'Bob Carter'" , "'Dean_Menke'" , "'Jim Grovenstein'" , "'Rudy Moehrbach'" , "'Terry Albrecht'" , "'Vic Young'" Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." , "McNabb, Adrin P." , "Isom, Kathy W." , "O'Connor, Patrick" Subject: Basic Waste Reduction (or P2) Training available in January Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:18:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Have end-of-year Funding for training that you have to commit or lose? New associates that need "How to do Waste Reduction Assessments" training? Experienced people that need a refresher? Consider registering now for the course below. (pass on to others in your organization that might be interested). What: Basic Industrial Waste Reduction Training Goal: Prepare the participant to do basic industrial Waste Reduction (WR) and Pollution Prevention (P2) assessments. Scope: See list of topics below. Sponsor: Tennessee Valley Authority Industrial Waste Reduction Team. When: 1:00 PM January 12, 1998 through 11:00 AM January 16, 1998 Where: TVA's Solar Institute Training Center in Chattanooga, Tennessee Cost: $1000/participant (check, VISA, or Mastercard) For Information or to register, contact Steve Hillenbrand (423) 632-8489 or sjhillenbrand@tva.gov Scope: This training will emphasize source reduction techniques from the industrial point of view (cost savings as well as environmental) for all media: air, solid, water, hazardous, non-hazardous, and energy. Continuing Education: Successfully completing this course will fulfill the requirements of 30 Professional Development Hours (PDHs) for continued Professional Engineering license accreditation in many states (including Tennessee). Topics to be covered: Regulations (as they apply to WR) Methods Housekeeping Substitutes (raw materials) Process Changes Product Changes Employee Training Reuse Recycling Specialties or Tools Coatings (painting) Electroplating Wastewater Solid Waste Applied Technologies (14 technologies that reduce waste) Solvents, Degreasers, and Strippers Energy (lighting, HVAC and processes, compressed air, and motors) Computer Usage (computer resources to solve WR problems) SAGE AAGE CAGE Netscape Internet Explorer Procite MotorMaster Industrial Assessment (hands on assessment of local industry) Assessment Report Writing (report on assessed local industry) Measurement Techniques (documentation of assessment implementation) Helping Industry Establish In-house P2 Team Liability, Legal Issues, Confidentiality Class Size: Class will be limited to a maximum of 30 participants. From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 3 15:33:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA09259 for p2tech-out; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 15:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat_Gallagher@nmenv.state.nm.us Date: Wed, 3 Sep 97 13:38:18 mdt Message-Id: <9709031738.AA00171@eidhub.nmenv.state.nm.us> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Forwarded: Jeweler's buffing wheels Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech CEO comments: From: Pat Gallagher: Date: ## 09/03/97 13:38 ## Message: From: Chris Vigil Date: ## 09/03/97 13:36 ## Message: Pat, please post this on the P2 listserver. Does anyone know of methods to remove the silver and gold from buffing wheels used by jewelry manufacturers? What are done with these wheels when jewelers are done with them? If you have any information please contact Chris Vigil at (800)810-7227 or chris_vigil@nmenv.state.nm.us Thank You From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 3 16:09:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA11013 for p2tech-out; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709032019.QAA17603@zork.tiac.net> X-Sender: tgreiner@tiac.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: tgreiner@tiac.net (Tim Greiner) Subject: cryogenic stripping of powder coated hooks and racks Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I am looking for information regarding the costs and benefits of removing powder coatings from hooks and racks using a burn-off oven versus cryogenic/mechanical stripping? As I understand it, the burn off process can be expensive from an energy standpoint. Does anyone have other information regading operating and capital costs of these two types of stripping approaches? As far as I can see, cryogenic stripping follow by some type of mechanical removal process (blasting, tumbling, whatever) would appear to be environmentally preferable to a burn-off oven. I searched P2 tech and the WWW but did not find this type of detailed info. Tim Greiner PS: Check out a new search engine called at www.northernlight.com -- they have a number of proprietary trade journal articles on the site that are available free until September 11th. I found lots of coatings related articles in my searches there. Furthermore, the way they presented thier search results in folders was very helpful. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Timothy J. Greiner Greiner Environmental 2 Emily Lane Gloucester, MA 01930 tel: 508-525-2214 fax: 508-525-2247 tgreiner@tiac.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 3 17:33:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA14770 for p2tech-out; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709032143.QAA31079@mailhub.iastate.edu> X-Sender: rprusk@pop-2.iastate.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 16:43:29 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Richard Rusk Subject: Stretch wrap Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have recently visited a factory where one of the waste streams is stretch wrap. This client generates several tons per year from incoming pallets of goods. Is there a market for this to be recycled? ------------------------------------------ Richard Rusk, P.E. Iowa State University 409 Marston Hall Ames, IA 50011-2153 rprusk@iastate.edu phone 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 ------------------------------------------ From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 3 18:33:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA16814 for p2tech-out; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 18:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970903224325.008fe7e0@pop.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: jyzhang@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 15:43:25 -0700 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jingyang Zhang Subject: effluent limits Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech A friend of mine would like to find out the effluent limits, concentration levels etc. for various substances in the metal surface finishing industry. The substances concentration limits (mg/l or ppm) he's looking for are: Cadmium Chromium Mercury Copper Lead Nickel Silver Tin Zinc Cyanide Org. Halogens If anyone knows the effluent limits or where to find them (a website, etc.), I could pass the information on to my friend. Thanks. Jingyang Zhang Department of Environmental Health Sciences University of California Los Angeles, CA 90095 (310) 8257-599 From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 04:40:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id EAA03195 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 04:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <340EF541.116B@cipn.es> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:52:01 -0700 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Inicitiatives Organization: Centre d'Iniciatives per a la Produccio Neta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech Subject: PVC production Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear p2techs! I ask again for your help in the following question. A company is interested in knowing new possibilities on clean production of PVC and its alternatives because they want to do a study about its environmental impact. Any information will be helpful. Thanking in advance for your help. Best regards, Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona (Spain) e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es fax: +34 3 4144582 From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 06:59:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id GAA05975 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 06:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Francke, Dale H." To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: RE: Stretch wrap Date: Thu, 04 Sep 97 07:12:00 edt Message-ID: <340E976A@pwwpgw3.pwfl.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Another good question is "Can their suppliers use another method of securring the shipment?" This might eliminate the waste stream. Items such as returnable shipping containers, incoming containers designed to be used for product shipment, etc. might allow securing the incoming (and out going) shipments with less waste. ---------- From: Richard Rusk To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Stretch wrap Date: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 5:43PM I have recently visited a factory where one of the waste streams is stretch wrap. This client generates several tons per year from incoming pallets of goods. Is there a market for this to be recycled? ------------------------------------------ Richard Rusk, P.E. Iowa State University 409 Marston Hall Ames, IA 50011-2153 rprusk@iastate.edu phone 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 ------------------------------------------ From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 07:07:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA06142 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." , "Mantooth, Jim G." , "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." , "Scheffler, Peter K." Cc: "Williams, Ronald J." Subject: RE: cryogenic stripping of powder coated hooks and racks Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:17:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Induction or direct resistance heating would be fairly efficient means of heating (just the surface is possible) the hooks and racks to pop the paint off if they are made with conductive material and have the right geometry. See the TVA IWR publications page on the web: http://www.tva.gov/orgs/iwr/publish.htm The best source reduction way is to make the hooks and other areas exposed to the paint out of plastic that the paint does not stick to. Usually Teflon or polyurethane but sometimes polyethylene works. Coating the exposed areas can work but is sometimes difficult to apply and maintain. >---------- >From: tgreiner@tiac.net[SMTP:tgreiner@tiac.net] >Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 1997 4:19 PM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: cryogenic stripping of powder coated hooks and racks > >I am looking for information regarding the costs and benefits of removing >powder coatings from hooks and racks using a burn-off oven versus >cryogenic/mechanical stripping? As I understand it, the burn off process >can be expensive from an energy standpoint. Does anyone have other >information regading operating and capital costs of these two types of >stripping approaches? As far as I can see, cryogenic stripping follow by >some type of mechanical removal process (blasting, tumbling, whatever) would >appear to be environmentally preferable to a burn-off oven. > >I searched P2 tech and the WWW but did not find this type of detailed info. > >Tim Greiner > >PS: Check out a new search engine called at www.northernlight.com -- they >have a number of proprietary trade journal articles on the site that are >available free until September 11th. I found lots of coatings related >articles in my searches there. Furthermore, the way they presented thier >search results in folders was very helpful. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Timothy J. Greiner >Greiner Environmental >2 Emily Lane >Gloucester, MA 01930 > >tel: 508-525-2214 >fax: 508-525-2247 >tgreiner@tiac.net > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 07:49:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA07038 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 08:01:23 -0400 From: Jeff Lewis/Ohio EPA (Jeff Lewis) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: re: metal finishing effluent limits Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Jingyang, U.S. EPA's effluent limits for metal finishing can be found in 40 CFR 433-Metal Finishing Point Source Category. You can visit the National Metal Finishing Resource Center at www.nmfrc.org for a PDF file of the rule. Go to "Compliance Assistance", then "Regulations". You can probably also search U.S. EPA's website. Summary of new source performance standards (NSPS) and pretreatment standards for new sources (PSNS) follows: Pollutant 1 Day Maximum (mg/l) Monthly Avg.(mg/l) Cd 0.11 0.07 Cr 2.77 1.71 Cu 3.38 2.07 Pb 0.69 0.43 Ni 3.98 2.38 Ag 0.43 0.24 Zn 2.61 1.48 Cn 1.2 0.65 Total Toxic Org. 2.13 --- Oil & Grease 52 26 Total Suspended 60 31 Solids (note: Oil & gease and total suspended solids for NSPS only) Be sure to check applicabiliy section. Some job-shop electroplaters may be covered under the Electroplating Point Source Category. Also, U.S. EPA is currently working on the Metal Products and Machinery Point Source Category (40 CFR 438). Many metal finishers will fall under this rule in the future which will likely result in more stringent limits for some pollutants. And, local limits established by publicly-owned treatment works (POTWs) will also apply. Hope this helps! Jeff Lewis Ohio EPA/Office of Pollution Prevention P.O. Box 1049 Columbus, Ohio 43216-1049 phone: (614) 644-2812 fax: (614) 728-1245 email: jeff.lewis@epa.state.oh.us www.epa.ohio.gov/opp From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 08:54:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA09056 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 08:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 09:05:24 -0400 From: ROBERT SINGLETON To: prodneta@cipn.es, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Need Information, Please Help... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear P2 Techies, I am trying to make a guide for finding resources on pollution prevention. This is not some grandiose publication. It is just a guide that will help the layman find information about pollution prevention. In this guide I would like to provide web sites, magazines, government publications, state and local agencies, books, and maybe valuable contacts. In writing this I have stumbled across a few guides that are industry specific. I might include information on obtaining industry specific P2 programs. But I think that might be going beyond the scope of this project. If you know of any good resources for finding information on pollution prevention please send it to me. I will be most gracious. Thanks, Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern US Environmental Protection Agency Tufts University Dept. of Civil and Environmental Engineering (202)260-8542 singleton.robert@epamail.epa.gov From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 10:29:30 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA14230 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:38:18 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 08:00:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Cryogenic Stripping of Powdered Coated Hooks To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:38:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D106ZWZWF73SU X400-Mts-Identifier: [;81830140907991/879983@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One & All, 1) I have no direct cost information on the topic. 2) I can see some reasons why cost may still be a problem with with cryogenic and mechanical hook stripping: a) Mechanical methods, like blasting, may be difficult to apply to all surfaces of a hook (without manipulation). The size of the hook and the number of hooks may complicate this process. b) The coating material removed would still need collection and management as a waste. The volume and weight of material would be greater than in the burning scenario where the waste is reduced in volume to an ash. The increase in weight and/or volume would increase disposal costs. (I am assuming manpower and other factors remain about the same.) Wouldn't it be easier to attempt to minimize the amount of powder accumulating on the hook. a) There are coatings which are applied to non-conducting materials which allow the material to be coated electrostatically. Why not a coating that inhibits electrostatic forces and minimizes powder coating application? (Maybe I'm dreaming) b) Along these same lines, how about an insulated hook...a non-conducting material on the outside with the conductor running through the center to the piece being coated? c) Minimize the size of the hook. Would a (and I hate to say this) disposable hooks be a possibility? As the hook approaches "thread size" (not practical for larger items) it may not be cost effective to burn and clean the hook for reuse. Metal "threads", despite powder coatings, may still be recyclable. d) Hook design may maximize Faraday cage effects and minimize the amount of powder coating. Most hooks are round. Would a "+" or "*" shaped design help? e) Could hooks coated with non-stict materials or coatings be wiped or blown clean? Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 10:43:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA15003 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 10:55:47 -0400 From: Tom Maves To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Need Information, Please Help... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech >>> ROBERT SINGLETON 09/04 9:05 AM >>> Dear P2 Techies, I am trying to make a guide for finding resources on pollution prevention. This is not some grandiose publication. It is just a guide that will help the layman find information about pollution prevention. In this guide I would like to provide web sites, magazines, government publications, state and local agencies, books, and maybe valuable contacts. In writing this I have stumbled across a few guides that are industry specific. I might include information on obtaining industry specific P2 programs. But I think that might be going beyond the scope of this project. If you know of any good resources for finding information on pollution prevention please send it to me. I will be most gracious. Thanks, Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern US Environmental Protection Agency Tufts University Dept. of Civil and Environmental Engineering (202)260-8542 singleton.robert@epamail.epa.gov Sounds like the "Pollution Prevention Directory." The latest version I have is from Sept '94, EPA 742-B-94-005. There is probably a more recent copy, but this publication includes everything you mentioned in your email (besides websites). Good luck Thomas R. Maves Ohio EPA - Office of Pollution Prevention P.O. Box 1049 Columbus, OH 43216-1049 Tel: (614) 644-2807 Fax: (614) 728-1245 Email: tom.maves@epa.state.oh.us Internet: http://www.epa.ohio.gov/opp From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 10:44:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA15065 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 10:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970904111028.006b7f00@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: exi@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:10:31 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: exi@ornl.gov (Eva Irwin) Subject: Re: Need Information, Please Help... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Robert, Please send me your mailing address so that I can send you a copy of the Pollution Prevention Guide developed for the Oak Ridge Reservation Employees for Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. It is a very basic and generic guide to pollution prevention and includes definitions, terms, and additional resources such as recycling centers, hotlines, outreach programs, etc. Eva Irwin At 09:05 AM 9/4/97 -0400, you wrote: >Dear P2 Techies, > >I am trying to make a guide for finding >resources on pollution prevention. This >is not some grandiose publication. It is >just a guide that will help the layman >find information about pollution >prevention. In this guide I would like to >provide web sites, magazines, >government publications, state and >local agencies, books, and maybe >valuable contacts. In writing this I have >stumbled across a few guides that are >industry specific. I might include >information on obtaining industry >specific P2 programs. But I think that >might be going beyond the scope of this >project. >If you know of any good resources for >finding information on pollution >prevention please send it to me. I will >be most gracious. > >Thanks, > >Robert C. Singleton III >Graduate Intern >US Environmental Protection Agency >Tufts University >Dept. of Civil and Environmental >Engineering >(202)260-8542 >singleton.robert@epamail.epa.gov > > Eva Irwin Y-12 Pollution Prevention Program Lockheed Martin Energy Systems, Inc. P. O. Box 2009 Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8222 exi@ornl.gov (423) 241-2581 phone (423) 241-2857 fax 0000,0000,ffffMake Less Mess in the Process0000,0000,ffff! From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 11:23:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA16925 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:33:53 -0400 From: ROBERT SINGLETON To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Need Information, Please Help... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks! I would love to receive your guide. My address is : US EPA 401 M Street S.W. (7405) Washington, DC 20460 I am sure it will be most beneficial. Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern EPA Headquarters From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 12:20:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA20616 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970904163059.00930a98@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 11:30:59 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Lisa C. Morrison" Subject: Battery Recyclers Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I just received the following request. Does anyone have such a list? Thanks, Lisa >Return-Path: >Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:53:46 +0000 >From: Kevin Probst >Reply-To: kprobst@mho.net >Organization: The CORE Group, Inc. >To: morrison@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu >Subject: Battery Recyclers >Content-Length: 225 > >I am looking for an address list for battery recyclers in the US. Do >you have such a list? This is to support a project by the State of New >Mexico and the Department of Energy. > >Thanks for any help you can provide. > >Kevin > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 14:04:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA25326 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 14:15:12 -0400 From: Jeff Lewis To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Battery Recyclers -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Ohio EPA's Office of Pollution Prevention's website at www.epa.ohio.gov/opp has a updated list of battery recyclers. Follow the link under "Recyclers/Recycling/Waste Exchanges". Jeff Lewis Ohio EPA/Office of Pollution Prevention P.O. Box 1049 Columbus, Ohio 43216-1049 phone: (614) 644-2812 fax: (614) 728-1245 email: jeff.lewis@epa.state.oh.us www.epa.ohio.gov/opp From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 14:04:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA25367 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709041814.LAA18372@mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net> From: BSN4young@webtv.net (Ottie Young) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:14:11 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Need Information, Please Help... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Eva, Would you please send me a copy of the pollution prevention guide also? TIA Ottie Young bsn4young@webtv.net From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 14:27:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA26735 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 14:39:28 -0400 From: Art Coleman To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Battery Recyclers -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have a list of dry-cell type battery recyclers. Give me your fax Lisa and I will get it out to you and any of the other P2 specialists who are interested. Art From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 16:00:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA01223 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 04 Sep 1997 16:09:17 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 15:54:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" Subject: Re: Need Information To: singleton.robert@epamail.epa.gov, p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: Marjorie Hughes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 16:09:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: E530ZWZWN33MB X400-Mts-Identifier: [;71906140907991/881242@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear Robert, You may find some useful material for your project on the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection's website. The URL is: http://www.dep.state.pa.us then CHOOSE Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance then CHOOSE Publications (a number of Pennsylvania industries are highlighted in this section) As you explore this site, you may find other useful links to websites. Good luck on your project Jo Anne From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 16:22:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA02300 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709042032.QAA27423@smtp1.interramp.com> From: "Mike Keefe" To: "P2TECH" Subject: Slag Abrasives Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:26:09 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have a question about blasting media that was posed to me today and I welcome input on an answer... Conventional blasting media for paint removal is sand, which can pose a risk of silicosis workers. A company is promoting a "slag abrasive" as a safer, environmentally friendly alternative to sand. Any P2TECHies heard about this or have a comment? Thanks, Michaek Keefe keefem@psinet.com Tetra Tech EM, Inc. From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 17:27:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA05117 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 17:36:34 -0400 From: Warren Weinstein Subject: Re: Need Information, Please Help... To: "INTERNET:p2tech@great-lakes.net" Message-ID: <199709041736_MC2-1F29-8BE1@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Robert, Simply check out the NPPR web site . Included i= n the documents section is the P2 yellow pages which is continuously update= d to provide the latest information about P2 information and service providers across the US and also internationally. This includes contact information (i.e. contact names phone #s, e-mail addresses, web sites et al) as well as actual projects and activities. Furthermore on the same web site there is also a directory of industrial expertise that breaks do= wn industrial expertise by SIC Code. This also includes contact people who have on-site industrial P2 experience. Or call our office (202-466-7272)= , we have loads of good stuff we can send you. Hope this helps. Warren Weinstein NPPR From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 18:30:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA07254 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF0167047@pasnt08.jacobs.com> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Slag Abrasives Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:39:12 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Mike, It is my understanding that the slag abrasives are harder than sand and therefore less prone to degradation. Sand may be used one to three times while slag may be used two to four times (there are just ballpark numbers - actual reuse depends on the hardness of the abrasive, the material being stripped, and the design of the stripping equipment). This extra hardness also results in less dusting. On the down-side, the slag may contain heavy metals such as copper or nickel depending on its source. If the slag fails TCLP, then the user is buying one big pile of future hazardous waste. Is the slag vendor comparing his/her product to commercial blasting sand or to beach sand ? House painters will sometimes use beach sand because it is cheap (i.e., free). This can result in health problems because of the contaminants present. I am not a toxicologist, but I believe there is a greater risk of silicosis with beach sand than there is with a commercially graded product. It has to do with particle size and shape. Hope this helps, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com > ---------- > From: Mike Keefe[SMTP:keefem@psinet.com] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 1:26PM > To: P2TECH > Subject: Slag Abrasives > > I have a question about blasting media that was posed to me today and > I > welcome input on an answer... > > Conventional blasting media for paint removal is sand, which can pose > a > risk of silicosis workers. A company is promoting a "slag abrasive" > as a > safer, environmentally friendly alternative to sand. Any P2TECHies > heard > about this or have a comment? > > Thanks, > > Michaek Keefe > keefem@psinet.com > Tetra Tech EM, Inc. > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 18:31:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA07318 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirsten Rosselot Message-Id: <199709042241.PAA21585@netcom18.netcom.com> Subject: Re: PVC production To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:41:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <340EF541.116B@cipn.es> from "Centre for Cleaner Production Inicitiatives" at Sep 4, 97 10:52:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech You asked about clean production of PVC and that you are interested in assessing its environmental impacts, and I think I can help with the environmental impacts part of your question. The environmental impacts of PVC are partly tied up in the chlorine chain -- I think you might find several articles in the first few issues of the Journal of Industrial Ecology interesting. Incineration at end-of-life is a concern because of the potential for dioxin releases. A manufacturer's group called CAMP, Inc. in Cleveland, Ohio has done and is doing a lot of projects on PVC-related issues and I think you should contact Joe and Mary Chadbourne -- they are really knowledgeable and should be able to help you. They are at voice 216/543-7303 fax 216/543-7160 e-mail mary.chadbourne@camp.org or joseph.chadbourne@camp.org There's a major, global conference on vinyl coming up soon in Cleveland. Mark Leskey at 330-376-6500 is the contact for that -- sorry but I don't have anything but his phone number. I understand it's a manufacturer's conference. =============================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 U.S.A. 1-818-878-0454 rosselot@netcom.com =============================== > > Dear p2techs! > > I ask again for your help in the following question. > > A company is interested in knowing new possibilities on clean production > of PVC and its alternatives because they want to do a study about its > environmental impact. > > Any information will be helpful. > > Thanking in advance for your help. > > Best regards, > > > Esther Monfa > Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives > Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 > 08006 Barcelona (Spain) > > e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es > fax: +34 3 4144582 > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 4 20:23:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id UAA10890 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 20:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709050032.TAA28420@mail.execpc.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Rebecca Leighton Katers" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:35:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Slag Abrasives X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.32a) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This slag abrasive sounds like a product being marketed in Neenah, Wisconsin, by a company called Minergy Corporation. They just built a 1,000 ton per day incinerator to burn sludge from 6 different pulp and paper mills in the vicinity of Neenah. They call it a "Glass Aggregate" plant and intend to market tiny granules produced under a priopriety process from the waste slag at the bottom of the incinerator. Our group is challenging this plant in court because it is built on top of Public Trust lands (fill land in a public water body.) We are also opposed to this as a major new source of toxic air pollution in an already polluted area. And finally, we're concerned about potential contamination which could end up in the "glass aggregate" from the waste paper sludges. Some of the paper companies are deinking plants where the inks, dyes, pigments and coatings are removed from incoming waste paper to be recycled, and these contaminants could result in contamination in the slag of the incinerator. Some of the sludge comes from chlorinated paper bleaching or delignification processes, and could leave chlorinated organic chemical residues on the slag. I'm not so sure this kind of granule would be healthy for sand blasting workers to breathe either. Besides, the slag results from melted clays (glossy paper coatings) turned into silica-based glass ---- which might also produce silicosis in workers. From: "Mike Keefe" To: "P2TECH" Subject: Slag Abrasives Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:26:09 -0600 Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net I have a question about blasting media that was posed to me today and I welcome input on an answer... Conventional blasting media for paint removal is sand, which can pose a risk of silicosis workers. A company is promoting a "slag abrasive" as a safer, environmentally friendly alternative to sand. Any P2TECHies heard about this or have a comment? Thanks, Michaek Keefe keefem@psinet.com Tetra Tech EM, Inc. Rebecca Leighton Katers Clean Water Action Council of N.E. Wisconsin 2220 Deckner Avenue Green Bay, WI 54302 Phone: 414-468-4243 Fax: 414-468-1234 E-mail: cwac@execpc.com From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 00:10:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id AAA16897 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 00:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: rpojasek@sprynet.com Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 21:19:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199709050419.VAA01233@m1.sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Need Information To: p2tech@great-lakes.net In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We are still getting blank messages only from Rich Illig and Joanne Hollash from PA. We used to be able to read their messages. Now it is not possible. What has changed in their system? Bob Pojasek rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 03:45:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id DAA21292 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 03:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <340F5092.3E1@cipn.es> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 17:23:38 -0700 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Inicitiatives Organization: Centre d'Iniciatives per a la Produccio Neta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech Subject: dry flowers or plants Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear p2techs, I would appreciate any information about systems and products used to decolorate and bleaching (whitering) flowers or plants that are dry. Any information could help a lot cause we have no information about it ! Thanking again for your help, I remain. Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona (Spain) e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es fax:+34 3 4144582 From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 07:11:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA25274 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 07:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Francke, Dale H." To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: RE: Battery Recyclers -Reply Date: Fri, 05 Sep 97 07:24:00 edt Message-ID: <340E9A23@pwwpgw3.pwfl.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Art, I would appreciate a copy of the dry-cell type battery recyclers. My fax is (561) 796-2787. Thanks. ---------- From: Art Coleman To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Battery Recyclers -Reply Date: Thursday, September 04, 1997 2:39PM I have a list of dry-cell type battery recyclers. Give me your fax Lisa and I will get it out to you and any of the other P2 specialists who are interested. Art From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 07:44:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA25875 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 07:43:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Francke, Dale H." To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Re: Need Information Date: Fri, 05 Sep 97 07:56:00 edt Message-ID: <340EA1DE@pwwpgw3.pwfl.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I agree. I got one message this A.M. from Joanne which had no text. ---------- From: rpojasek@sprynet.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Need Information Date: Friday, September 05, 1997 12:19AM We are still getting blank messages only from Rich Illig and Joanne Hollash from PA. We used to be able to read their messages. Now it is not possible. What has changed in their system? Bob Pojasek rpojasek@sprynet.com From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 07:48:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA25998 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 07:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 07:58:37 -0400 From: JEFF HALSEY To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Slag Abrasives -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Why not plastic? That's a tried method. Slag scares me unless I'm real confident of it's content. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 08:03:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA26381 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 08:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:12:13 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:06:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: DRY CELL RECYCLERS To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:12:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D160ZWZXBQAHH X400-Mts-Identifier: [;31218050907991/882334@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Sorry to bother the entire list with this request, but my direct e-mails (acoleman@central.epa.ohio.gov) get returned. Art Coleman, Please may I request a copy of your Dry Cell Recycler list. Thanks, Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us Send to: FAX: 717-327-3565 or Office of Pollution Prevention & Compliance Assistance PADEP 208 W. Third Street Williamsport, PA 17701 ATTN: R. Illig From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 09:22:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA29117 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <67B9923A019F59D9@tellus.org> Date: 05 Sep 97 09:23:47 EST From: Diana Zinkl To: uunet!great-lakes.net!p2tech@uunet.uu.net Subject: I 2nd the blank message problem X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Diana Zinkl Tellus Institute 11 Arlington St. Boston, MA 02116 tel: (617) 266-5400, fax: (617) 266-8303 dzinkl@tellus.org, http://www.tellus.org (note change from 'tellus.com'. '.com' is still usable) From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 09:43:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA29925 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709051354.IAA03200@mailhub.iastate.edu> X-Sender: rprusk@pop-2.iastate.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:54:01 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Richard Rusk Subject: Re: DRY CELL RECYCLERS Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Here is a tidbit to add to the "blank messages from Rich Illig" thread. I received a message from Rich Illig today after seeing that some people are getting blank messages from him. The subject line is Re: DRY CELL RECYCLERS. The text was there so I thought I would report that at least one person is not having this trouble. When I clicked on my reply button I usually see a complete copy of the text of the message with arrows in the far left column. What I got this time is shown below--a blank message! So in my computer the message came through so I could read it, but was not picked up in the reply function. I don't remember this ever happening before. I am using Eudora 2.1.2 on a Gateway 2000 Pentium 120 MHz computer running Windows 95. My mail is received at the university by a mail server running Unix. My computer uses Eudora to get my mail and bring it to the hard drive of my computer. Is this helpful information to someone who could diagnose the problem? Here is what is left of the message: At 08:06 AM 9/5/97 -0500, you wrote: > ------------------------------------------ Richard Rusk, P.E. Iowa State University 409 Marston Hall Ames, IA 50011-2153 rprusk@iastate.edu phone 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 ------------------------------------------ From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 10:03:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA00887 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3410122C.7CC7@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 07:07:40 -0700 From: Margaret Reich Nover Organization: Portland's Pollution Prevention Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: DRY CELL RECYCLERS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard Illig (717) 327-3568 wrote: Yet another blank message - Any way to prevent these? Margaret Nover From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 11:12:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA04495 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709051512.LAA04495@cedar.cic.net> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Need Information, Please Help... Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Robert, Here is a document that I created about a year ago. It is titled "Electronic Access to Environmental Management Information". I have not checked the web sites since last year. I expect some are out dated, and no longer functioning, but I think you will find it of use. Allan P.S. I put the document in text format to make sure you could read it, but some formatting was lost... (the original is in Word 6.0) ---------------------------------------------------- Allan Butler, Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: ROBERT SINGLETON [SMTP:SINGLETON.ROBERT@epamail.epa.gov] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 1997 6:05 AM To: prodneta@cipn.es; p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Need Information, Please Help... Dear P2 Techies, I am trying to make a guide for finding resources on pollution prevention. This is not some grandiose publication. It is just a guide that will help the layman find information about pollution prevention. In this guide I would like to provide web sites, magazines, government publications, state and local agencies, books, and maybe valuable contacts. In writing this I have stumbled across a few guides that are industry specific. I might include information on obtaining industry specific P2 programs. But I think that might be going beyond the scope of this project. If you know of any good resources for finding information on pollution prevention please send it to me. I will be most gracious. Thanks, Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern US Environmental Protection Agency Tufts University Dept. of Civil and Environmental Engineering (202)260-8542 singleton.robert@epamail.epa.govElectronic Access to Environmental Management Information 1.0 Introduction Program managers need information to make decision on the development, production, and deployment of their system. With environemtnal laws and regulations requiring greater environmental consideration and posing greater penalties for incorrect decisions, it has become increasingly more important for program managers to have rapid access to validated environmental information. But, different kinds of information are needed in each phase of system development. The five phases of system development are: Phase I Phase II Phase III Phase IV Phase V Concept Exploration Demonstration & Validation Engineering & Manufacturing Development Production & Deployment Disposal (Reuse - Recycle) Most of the environmental information needed by program managers is available electronically. With the explosive growth of the internet and the World Wide Web (WWW), valuable environmental information is added each day. Electronic transfer and sharing of information is becoming easier even with sensitive information. A brief description of the activities in each phase follows. Each of the development phases have different environmental philosophies that dominate decisions. The type of environmental information needed in each of the system development phases depends on the environmental philosophy adopted by the integrated product development team. 1.1 Phase I - Concept Exploration During phase I the integrated product development team is organized, and an acquisition strategy and production plan are developed. All reasonable system alternatives are identified and classified by risk level. Critical components may be prototyped. A feasibility estimate is accomplished to determine if the system design concept can be produced using existing manufacturing technology while meeting the cost, schedule, and performance requirements. Alternative locations for system production and system deployment are evaluated. The environmental philosophy that dominates phase I decisions is that of sustainability. That is, a system that would not have any adverse impact on the environment. 1.2 Phase II - Demonstration and Validation In phase II, system design concept alternatives are evaluated to reduce risks for the full scale engineering development (phase III). Cost, schedule, performance, and supportability trade-offs are made. A system development specification is written and a detailed cost estimate completed. An initial manufacturing plan is developed. Producibility and supportability are evaluated. In phase II the product team begins detailed designing and should use the Design for the Environment (DfE) philosophies. 1.3 Phase III - Engineering & Manufacturing Development Development of the selected system is completed in phase III. Limited production is initiated in order to accomplish operational testing and evaluation. Life-Cycle-Cost estimates are validated. System design is firm and ready for production. Manufacturing and repair processes are defined and proofed. Deployment sites prepare for arrival of first system, and operational and maintenance training is developed. Determine packing, shipping, and storage requirements for the system. The environmental philosophies that dominate phase III decisions are that of DfE and pollution prevention. 1.4 Phase IV - Production and Deployment Produce the system on schedule and on budget. Achieve readiness for system deployment including personnel training, maintenance, spares support, and overhaul. Accomplish value engineering on the system and processes. In phase IV largest benefits from previous environmental work, sustainability, design for the environment, and pollution prevention, will be realized. The environmental philosophy that normally dominates during production and deployment is compliance and waste treatment. However, value engineering efforts to continually improve system design as well as manufacturing and repair processes should follow the pollution prevention philosophy. 1.5 Phase V - Disposal When a system has reached the end of it's useful life, decisions for system "retirement" are made. During phase V previous environmental efforts will show benefits in ease of recycling and component reuse. The environmental philosophies that dominates decisions in phase V are recycling and disposal compliance. 2.0 SustainablE Development Examining the issue of sustainable development, it is necessary to examine the concept itself. The concept of "sustainable development" is not new. The term "sustainable development", however, is a recent invention, coming into common usage following the publication of the Brundtland Report (1987). The Brundtland Commission is responsible for the most frequently cited definition of sustainable development: "to meet the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs". In the development of new products we must consider the ability of future generations to meet the maintenance needs of the product as well as the future needs to build new and better products. The following WWW sites are very informative in the area of sustainable development. Institute for Local Self-Reliance (ILSR) - A nonprofit research and educational organization that provides technical assistance and information on environmentally sound economic development strategies, ILSR has information and publications on issues such as replacing petrochemicals with biochemicals. Access: http://gopher.great-lakes.net:2200/0/partners/ILSR/ILSRhome.html Resource Renewal Institute (RRI) The Resource Renewal Institute (RRI) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1983 to support innovative environmental management in the U.S. and worldwide. RRI's main role is to advocate the implementation of Green Plans, which are long-term, comprehensive environmental strategies. Headquartered in San Francisco and Marin County, California, RRI also maintains offices in Washington, DC, Europe, and New Zealand. Access: http://www.rri.org Sustainable Development - International Institute for Sustainable Development (IISD) is a not-for-profit corporation, established by the Governments of Canada and Manitoba. IISD's mandate is to promote sustainable development in decision making within government, business and the daily lives of individuals in Canada and internationally. It is directed by an independent international board, and supported by Canadian and other international donors. The internet site includes various information on sustainable development, and a database. Access: http://iisd1.iisd.ca/ Yellow Mountain Institute for Sustainable Living - The Yellow Mountain Institute for Sustainable Living is a not-for-profit organization located in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Central Virginia. Their goal is to facilitate the widespread introduction of building techniques that will increase the supply of affordable, energy-efficient housing regionally and throughout the country. Access: http://curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU:80/Avenue/Community/Environ/YellowMtn/ Green Cross International - Digital Forum: Digital Forum serves to create an on-line and evolving forum on core environmental issues. This forum promotes the interaction of views from the diverse participants in the debate. It will also involve world leaders and decision-makers in face-to-face dialogues. Access: http://greencross.unige.ch/greencross/digiforum.html OneWorld Online is the world's largest independent Web site devoted exclusively to sustainable development and is the Internet's meeting place for everyone who is interested in global themes, such as peace, justice, development and human rights Access: http://www.oneworld.org/ Links to Sustainable Development Information: A list of sustainable development sites available on the internet. Access: http://www.txinfinet.com/mader/ecotravel/sustain.html 3.0 Design for the Environment Design for Environment (DfE) is the systematic consideration during design of issues associated with environmental safety and health over the entire product life cycle. DfE can be thought of as the migration of traditional pollution prevention concepts upstream into the development phase of products before production and use. DfE is applied to the design of new (or modification of existing) products, processes, and facilities. The objective is to minimize or eliminate during design, the anticipated waste generation and resource consumption in all subsequent life cycle phases. The following WWW sites contain valuable information pertaining to DfE. Carnegie Mellon University - Green Design Initiative: The Green Design Initiative is a major interdisciplinary research effort to make an impact on environmental quality through green design. The central idea of the initiative is to form partnerships with companies, government agencies and foundations to develop pioneering design, management and manufacturing processes that can improve environmental quality and product quality while enhancing economic development. Carnegie Mellon researchers are working to address the regulatory issues that shape the global marketplace. Researchers will have access to policy and management tools for environmentally conscious manufacturing and product and process design, as well as opportunities to explore comprehensive solutions to problems such as hazardous emissions, use of toxic materials and inefficient energy usage. Access: http://www.ce.cmu.edu/GreenDesign/ CERES Global Knowledge Network - The primary mission of the CERES-GKN initiative is the creation of a loosely interconnected, globally distributed, and locally administered set of knowledge bases on environmentally sound product development processes to promote environmental sustainability. The GKN will be accessible through a variety of user interfaces to accommodate the diverse user community and will provide gateways to pay-for-use, proprietary knowledge sources. It will enable any person involved in any stage of product/process dm_info.html 4.0 Pollution Prevention The UCLA Center for Clean Technology, founded in 1990, employs a focused, multi- disciplinary approach to pressing environmental challenges. The goal of the Center is to create a science, engineering, and human resource base for the design of clean, economically competitive technologies. Pollution prevention research includes a strong focus on process industries and chemical engineering. Access: http://cct.seas.ucla.edu/cct.home.html Center for Technology Transfer and Pollution Prevention (CT2P2) - Purdue University and U.S. EPA Region 5 established the Center for Technology Transfer and Pollution Prevention at the Purdue University Agricultural Engineering Department in 1992. The Center provides Environmental Ambassadors with the tools necessary to transfer technical information about the environment and pollution prevention worldwide. The Center develops and evaluates new computer-based pollution prevention and technology transfer opportunities. In addition, the Center is dedicated to supporting technology transfer at all levels, and discovering new knowledge by developing, evaluating and improving the effectiveness of the educational transfer process. The CT2P2 has developed a series of over 30 PC-based computer programs on various aspects of the environment and pollution prevention. These programs can be downloaded and include topics on groundwater education, management of domestic wastes, and pesticide storage. Access: http://ingis.acn.purdue.edu:9999/cttpp/cttpp.html Energy Analysis and Diagnostic Center / Industrial Assessment Center Program - This site contains databases and other information developed under a grant from the US Department of Energy, through the Energy Analysis and Diagnostic Center / Industrial Assessment Center Program. Rutgers University and The Office Industrial Productivity and Energy Assessment (OIPEA) are currently serving as a national field manager of the EADC program. The program provides funds to university faculty and students to perform assessments of industrial operations at nearby manufacturing sites. There are currently 30 schools around the country who participate in the program. Data is gathered from each of these assessments and compiled into publicly available databases located on this WWW server. Access: http://128.6.70.23/ Environmentally Conscious Design & Manufacturing Lab - Green Engineering WWW Servers A listing of academic sites and research centers related to environmentally conscious design and manufacturing. Access: http://ie.uwindsor.ca/other_green.html Hazardous Waste Research and Information Center (HWRIC) - A division of Illinois' nonregulatory environmental agency, the Department of Energy and Natural Resources, HWRIC services include clean manufacturing and pollution prevention technical assistance. An on-line publications listing is available. Access: http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/hwric/hmlhome.html National Environmental Information Resources Center (NEIRC) - The George Washington University, through the Green University Initiative, has established the NEIRC as a public service. The NEIRC, which maintains close communications with the US EPA, is located on the main campus of The George Washington University in Washington, D.C. Information is available for Environmental Education Programs and Initiatives World Wide and Other Environmental Internet Sites Access: http://gwis.circ.gwu.edu/~greenu/ National Pollution Prevention Roundtable (NPPR) Pollution Prevention Yellow Pages - This is an update to the Directory of State and Local Pollution Prevention Programs, published in 1992. The Pollution Prevention Yellow Pages were compiled from a comprehensive mail and telephone survey effort conducted by the Roundtable. Surveys were sent to all known state and local government pollution prevention programs. Provides a listing of organizations and contacts which are sorted by state. Access: http://es.inel.gov/program/regional/rndtable/index.html Toxic Use Reduction Institute (TURI) - P2GEMS is an internet search tool for facility planners, engineers and managers who are looking for technical and process/materials management information on the Web. Over 125 sites with information valuable to TUR planning and pollution prevention have been selected and catalogued for easy use. P2 GEMS are Web locations accessed by key words or by selection of one of four categories: product/industry, chemical/waste, process, or management tools. Access: http://www.uml.edu/turi/ University of North Dakota: Energy and Environmental Research Center (EERC) - The EERC is one of the world's leading energy and environmental facilities. The Center conducts research on all ranks of coal and is recognized as an international leader in low-rank coal research and technology. The EERC also has the leading groundwater protection program in the Upper Midwest. Other programs include advanced power systems, waste disposal, waste reuse, air emissions control, biomass fuels, energy policy, contaminant cleanup, and mine land reclamation. Access: http://www.eerc.und.nodak.edu University of Wisconsin-Solid and Hazardous Waste Education Center - Describes SHWEC programming activities and lists valuable pollution prevention fact sheets and other resources Access: http://gopher.great-lakes.net:2200/1/partners/SHWEC WaterWiser (Water Efficiency Clearinghouse) - WaterWiser's mission is to be the preeminent resource for water efficiency and water conservation information. WaterWiser is a cooperative project of the American Water Works Association, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation. Includes a publications listing and links to other Internet water-related resources. Access: http://www.waterwiser.org EPA - Atmospheric Pollution Prevention Division: The division's mission is to improve building energy and office equipment efficiency for commercial, industrial, nonprofit, and governmental enterprises. Improve energy efficiency in residences. Improve efficiency, efficacy, and "environmental friendliness" of chloroflourocarbon (CFC) substitutes, perflourocarbons (PFCs), and other industrially-used gases. Capturing and using methane releases from industrial and agricultural activities instead of releasing it into the atmosphere. Access: http://www.epa.gov/docs/GCDOAR/OAR-APPD.html Energy Pollution Prevention Information Clearinghouse (EPIC): The purpose of EPIC is to facilitate the exchange of U.S. DOE pollution prevention information between DOE sites, state and local governments, and private industries. It includes a file listing of DOE-specific P2 information and a calendar of upcoming DOE-sponsored conferences, meetings, and training events related to pollution prevention. Access: http://146.138.5.107/EPIC.EXE?EPIC 5.0 Recycling Pollution prevention only works in a society that is wasteful. After a product fulfills its intended use, resource recovery is done to recover all the materials or energy possible for the production of the next generation of products. Recycling is a large part of resource recovery. Material exchanges have been established to help those seeking materials to meet those who have the materials. Environmental Recycling Hotline - Information about recycling programs is organized by zip code. Databases are present for Arizona, Nevada, Hawaii, Texas, and Colorado. Access: http://www.primenet.com/erh.html Global Recycling Network A comprehensive Internet recycling information resource. Includes recycling directories, a reference library on recycling, and a stock page. Access: http://grn.com/grn/ora.html National Materials Exchange Network A free local and international on-line marketplace for trading and recycling used and surplus materials and goods. With over 10,000 listings, the Network allows state waste exchanges and industrial and consumer users at no charge to immediately list or search among thirty categories of available and wanted items such as scrap metal and surplus chemicals. (The NMEN recently lost funding, but the WWW site is still there as of 3/15/96) Access: http://www.earthcycle.com/g/p/earthcycle/ King County Recycled Procurement Program - Recycling is an integral part of solid-waste management and depends upon the support of recycled materials markets. Many governments are making an effort to support recycled materials markets by purchasing recycled products. To help County agencies to "buy recycled", King County created a recycled product procurement program in 1989; this pioneering effort established King County as a leader in developing applications for recycled products. In 1991, King County earned the procurement award of the National Recycling Coalition. In these World-Wide-Web documents, we describe the tools and techniques developed by King County agencies for purchasing recycled products. Access: http://homer.metrokc.gov/oppis/recyclea.html Industrial Materials Exchange (IMEX) - Is a free service designed to help business find markets for industrial by-products, surplus materials, and wastes. Through IMEX, waste generators can be matched with waste users. Inside this WWW catalog are listings of a wide variety of materials available as well as materials wanted by businesses. Both commonplace and uncommon items are listed. The listing is broken into 12 categories: Acids, Alkalis, Solvents, Other Inorganic Chemicals, Other Organic Chemicals, Oils/Waxes, Plastics/Rubber, Wood/Paper, Textiles/Leather, Metals/Metal Sludges, Miscellaneous, and Laboratory Chemicals. Access: http://www.metrokc.gov/lhwmp/cesqg/imextoc.html Pacific Northwest Laboratory's Guide To Buying Green - The GreenGuide is published to help trim office waste. The most successful Forbes 500 businesses have discovered the financial benefits of reducing waste, recycling the remains, and completing the loop by purchasing recycled products. Purchasing recycled products (known as affirmative procurement) and reduction/recycling reduce costs by leading to more cost-effective purchasing and waste management decisions. Access: http://www.pnl.gov:2080/esp/greenguide/ Recycler's World - was established to be a world wide trading site for information relating to secondary or recyclable commodities, by-products, used and surplus items or materials. Recycler's World has been rated by Pointcom as among the top 5% of all web-sites of the world. In addition, NetMall has awarded Recycler's world with its Excellence in Commerce rating. Includes listing of exchange services and publications. Access: http://granite.sentex.net:80/recycle/ 6.0 Environmental laws, regulations, and policy Federal Register - The Federal Register publishes proposed regulations, final regulations, and other legal notices issued by federal agencies. These notices can have legal effect and are published daily. The word search capability and summary information about the daily Federal Register is available on the WWW in many locations: Access: http://www.pls.com:8001/his/cfr.html http://gopher.nara.gov:70/1/register http://www.epa.gov/epahome/EPAFR-EnvSubset.html http://best.gdb.org/repos/fr/fr-intro.html Federal Register Review - The Federal Register Review summarizes key environmental notices in the Federal Register that may be of special interest to DOD industrial facilities, particularly those facilities involved in maintenance operations associated with metal services, electronics, motor vehicles, aircraft, and shipbuilding and/or installation restoration activities. The Federal Register Review is available on WWW at: Access: http://www.ndcee.ctc.com/ndcee.env.doc/fedreg/frrevtop.htm Environmental Regulation and Laws - The Rules, Regulations and Legislation section offers access to the daily table of contents for the FEDERAL REGISTER, selected FEDERAL REGISTER documents, and other Internet sites that maintain electronic versions of the U.S. Code and the Code of Federal Regulations. Access to electronic versions of the statutes around which the U.S. EPA is organized, such as the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, etc., is proposed but not available at this time. The main web site for this information is: Access: http://www.epa.gov/epahome/rules.html Environmental Regulatory Work Products - Regulatory products help facility managers and engineers define and understand the regulatory aspects of the industrial environmental problems which they face on a daily basis. The regulatory products come in four levels: Overviews, Abstracts, Fact Sheets, and Industry Alerts. Access: http://www.ndcee.ctc.com/mainline.html Cornell University - Legal Information Institute: Contains on-line references to environmental law materials and CFR search capability. Access: http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/environmental%2ehtml Internet Virtual Library - Environmental Law: An extensive library of environmental law documents all in electronic format. Access: http://www.law.indiana.edu/law/intenvlaw.html 7.0 EPA and other federal agencies ACCESS EPA: ACCESS EPA is a directory of U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and other public sector environmental information resources. There is information for everyone interested in the environment: citizens, consumers, householders; scientists; federal, state, local, and tribal governments; businesspeople; students and researchers. Contact information and a description of services is given for each information resource. Each chapter begins with a brief introduction and table of contents. In some instances, supplementary material is provided at the end of the chapter. With the exception of Chapter 7, "State Environmental Libraries," each of the chapters describes EPA information. Included after the eight chapters of information contacts are the following reference tools: acronyms that appear throughout ACCESS EPA; an index of Library and Information Services by State; and a name/title/subject index. Access: http://earth1.epa.gov/Access/ ENVIROFACTS: ENVIROFACTS is a relational database that integrates data from four major EPA program systems: RCRIS, TRIS, CERCLIS, and PCS. It contains data, updated monthly, that is available under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). No enforcement or budget sensitive information is contained in this database. Access: http://www.epa.gov/docs/enviro/html/ef_home.html ENVIRO$EN$E: Funded by the Environmental Protection Agency and the Strategic Environmental Research and Development Program, Enviro$en$e allows those implementing pollution prevention programs or developing research and development projects to benefit from the experience, progress, and knowledge of their peers. Enviro$en$e includes an interactive pollution prevention forum, ASK EPA, for P2 questions for all groups; government, researchers, industry, and public interest groups. Enviro$en$e also hosts an expert knowledge-base known as the Solvent Umbrella which allows users to access solvent alternative information through a single, easy-to-use command structure. Access: http://es.inel.gov/index.html U.S. EPA: This is the EPA's main home page. Much of the information currently available via the EPA's WWW server has been converted from the original documents made available on the EPA Gopher Server. It contains basic information about the EPA, press releases, EPA Journal, a calender of events, etc. There are links to numerous sites of environmental information including the various EPA programs. Access: http://www.epa.gov/ U.S. Department of Energy (DOE)--Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Network Offers hundreds of pages of information from the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy. This online library of resources offers news and archives about conservation techniques and developments in the world of energy technology. A search engine is provided. Access: http://www.eren.doe.gov/ U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) Office of Environmental Management (EM): This server supports EM's mission by providing information services to EM HQ, field sites, regulatory agencies, the public, and other stakeholders. Users can access services through menus, a full-text search, or by selecting them directly from the infomap. Pollution prevention information can be directly accessed: http://www.em.doe.gov/polprev.html Access: http://www.em.doe.gov/index.html Office of Industrial Technologies (OIT): The Office of Industrial Technologies (OIT) is part of the Department of Energy's Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy. OIT creates partnerships among industry, trade groups, Government agencies, and other organizations to research, develop, and deliver advanced energy efficiency, renewable energy, and pollution prevention technologies for industrial customers. By using advanced technologies to save energy, companies lower costs, boost productivity, and help prevent pollution. Access: http://www.oit.doe.gov/ U.S. Department of Commerce: The U.S. Department of Commerce is the most versatile agency in government. Its broad range of responsibilities include expanding U.S. exports, developing innovative technologies, gathering and disseminating statistical data, measuring economic growth, granting patents, promoting minority entrepreneurship, predicting the weather and monitoring stewardship. As diverse as Commerce's services are, there is an overarching mandate that unifies them: to work with the business community to foster economic growth and the creation of new American jobs. Contains Information and links to economic development, technology transfer, and technology development. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 11:30:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA05601 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:30:05 -0400 (EDT) From: herrick@admin.njit.edu Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 11:40:17 EST To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <009B9D78.F22CED3C.73@admin.njit.edu> Subject: RE: Need Information, Please Help... Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Come visit NJTAP's home page (http://www.njit.edu/njtap).The site contains lilnks to other sites, general P2 information, detailed outlines of two college courses, success stories, and the text of SIC guidebooks. The site also hosts an integrated database of New Jersey's industries and theie reported use and releases of hazardous chemicals under federal and state reporting requirements. The most unique and, we hope, useful feature of the site is the EnviroDaemon, a search engine dedicated to finding P2 information on the Internet. If your generic search engines are returning mind-numbing lists of "hits," most of which are unrelated to P2, you might want to try EnviroDaemon to find a manageable number of hits that are more likely to be germane. The project sounds like a good one. Good luck with it. Keep us posted, especially if you dig up some interesting gems. Bruce R Herrick NJTAP From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 11:55:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA06747 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 97 11:04 EST From: (David Lawrence) To: (P2 Info Sharing) X-Mailer: OPN:Office Message-Id: Subject: Re: Battery Recyclers Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ** Orig: 09/04/97 11:30 am ** ** SMTP: s. Postmaster ** Re: Battery Recyclers ** Reply: 09/05/97 11:00 am ** ** DLAWR: D. Lawrence ** I have such a list. It was constructed mainly for mercury containing batteries, but also gets into some others. Call, write for copy. David Lawrence, IN Dept. of Env. Mgmt., Northwest Regional Office, 504 North Broadway, Suite 418, Gary, IN 46402, Phone 219-881-6720, FAX 219881-6745, e-mail dlawr@opn. dem.state.in.us. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 15:13:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA15419 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970905151802.36773986@eaton.k12.mi.us> X-Sender: mmz@eaton.k12.mi.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Mary Zollner Subject: RE: Need Information, Please Help... Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Come visit NJTAP's home page (http://www.njit.edu/njtap).The site contains lilnks to other sites, general P2 information, detailed outlines of two college courses, success stories, and the text of SIC guidebooks. The site also hosts an integrated database of New Jersey's industries and theie reported use and releases of hazardous chemicals under federal and state reporting requirements. The most unique and, we hope, useful feature of the site is the EnviroDaemon, a search engine dedicated to finding P2 information on the Internet. If your generic search engines are returning mind-numbing lists of "hits," most of which are unrelated to P2, you might want to try EnviroDaemon to find a manageable number of hits that are more likely to be germane. The project sounds like a good one. Good luck with it. Keep us posted, especially if you dig up some interesting gems. Bruce R Herrick NJTAP From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 15:16:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA15635 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:50:03 -0400 From: Warren Weinstein Subject: Fwd: First American Scientific Corp. To: list serve NPPR , P2 Tech List serve Message-ID: <199709051450_MC2-1F50-6EC2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thought this might interesting to some: = First American Scientific Corporation has developed new technology that we feel is of global significance to problems arising from human waste disposal activity. Full details are available at http://www.uniserve.com/fasc . The technology, which is built into our Micronizer machines, is called = Sonic Disintegration Technology (SDT) and incorporates standing = sound waves and kinetic energy to disintegrate virtually all non-metallic= substances into powders as fine as -400 mesh. This means that previously= problematic recyclables like rubber (tires), gypsum (drywall), plastics,= insullation, glass, and bio-solid wastes can be cost-effectively "micronized" and separated for re-use as industrial raw materials. This information will be of particular interest to investors, municipal engineers, agricultural research facilities, waste disposal engineers, recycled product developers, and others who have an interest in solving the crises being generated from worldwide waste disposal. Our apologies if you view this information as intrusive, but First Americ= an Scientific Corporation will not contribute to global deforestation by = disseminating information through printed materials. We feel this technology is of the highest global priority. Thank-you for taking the time to read this letter. Investor Relations First American Scientific Corporation NASD EBB:FASC From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 15:36:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA16558 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: Kenneth Saulter To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: Kenneth Saulter Subject: Michigan P2 Technical Assistance for Small-Medium Manufacturers Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:44:23 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech For a Michigan conference on 9/15 I am compiling information on P2 technical assistance within--or easily accessible to-- Michigan small-medium sized manufacturers. I anticipate that the focus of this information search will be to identify on-line web-sites, list-serves and e-mail connected individuals. If you or your organization are providing such services to Michigan manufacturers I would appreciate a reply with a few lines that would be suitable for a catalog-like summary of Michigan P2 Tech Asst. sites. I would encourage local and city or county gov't groups to reply. You might mention the following in your response: website or list-serve or e-mail address; specialty areas; a contact person's name, address and phone; any thoughts on tech asst. needs, issues, strengths within the state--do we compare well with other states in your view? In return for your time and response I will include you on a distribution list for the final catalog and paper that I produce. Thanks in advance for your help. Ken Saulter, Director Energy & Environment Center Industrial Technology Institute 2901 Hubbard Rd. Ann Arbor, MI 48106 (313) 769-4234, Fax x4064 From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 16:29:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA18783 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 16:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 15:14:30 -0400 From: Albert Tieche To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Textile Waste Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech A client has large volumes of fabric waste from a cut &sew operation. The material is a cotton-polyester blend. The pieces are small and odd shaped. The company states that they have minimized their waste % as much as possible for their process but still produce significant amounts. Any information on new uses for cotton-poly blended material or processing advancements to allow separation would be appreciated. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 19:39:41 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA24388 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 19:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCBA1C.67089E80.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Textile Waste Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 16:54:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Albert, One application for fabric scraps is high quality paper. Scrap Levis are used to make specialty paper - it's good stuff. Allan ---------------------------------------------------- Allan Butler, Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Albert Tieche [SMTP:TIECHE@cisnash.gw.utk.edu] Sent: Friday, September 05, 1997 12:15 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Textile Waste A client has large volumes of fabric waste from a cut &sew operation. The material is a cotton-polyester blend. The pieces are small and odd shaped. The company states that they have minimized their waste % as much as possible for their process but still produce significant amounts. Any information on new uses for cotton-poly blended material or processing advancements to allow separation would be appreciated. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 5 22:48:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id WAA28750 for p2tech-out; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 22:47:18 -0400 (EDT) MR-Received: by mta FREIA.MUAS; Relayed; Sat, 06 Sep 1997 03:55:41 -0800 Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 03:55:41 -0800 From: HENRY BOYTER Subject: Re: Textile Waste In-reply-to: <01BCBA1C.67089E80.butler@ctc.com> To: p2tech Message-id: <9741551905091997/A13089/FREIA/11B92CF72600*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: 11B92CF72600 X400-MTS-identifier: [;9741551905091997/A13089/FREIA] Hop-count: 0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Contact the NC Office of Waste Reduction and ask for the "Directory of Markets for Recyclable Materials". It contains names and addresses of recyclers for textile waste. 800-763-0136 or 919-571-4100. If your client is a textile company, they could join the listserver TEX-NET and ask the question to get further information. I can send them the information on how textile companies can join. The NC Office of waste Reduction is your best best. Henry Boyter, Jr., PhD Senior Scientist/Director of EH&S Earth Tech - Charlottesville 1115 5th St. SW Charlottesville, VA 22902 HBoyter@am.earthtech.com 804-977-1498 Ext 20 The opinions expressed are those of Dr. Boyter and are not necessarily those of EarthTech. "Ride, boldly ride," The shade replied,-- "If you seek for Eldorado!" **************************************************** From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 08:04:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA07851 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:01:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "VIC YOUNG" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:11:13 EST Subject: Airport Runway Rubber Removal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <347057B1344@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech P2 Techies: We have a client that needs information on potential materials to clean the rubber skid marks from airport runways. He indicates that he was told there is a material called Aero-Clean or similar name that has been requested by a government owned facility. He is well aware of the advantages and usefulness of the high pressure water spray for this purpose but was told to use the specific cleaner. Any help locating a vendor for the specified cleaner or equivalent alternate would be appreciated. Vic Young, WRRC Vic Young, Waste Reduction Resource Center PO Box 29569, Raleiigh, NC 27626-9569 (800)476-8686 Fax (919)715-6794 vic_young@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us http://www.owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 08:23:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA08747 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 08:36:29 -0400 From: ROBERT SINGLETON To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Need Information, Please Help... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks! This certainly looks rewarding. Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern EPA Headquarters From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 08:37:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA09284 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3413F33D.6CCE@nasda.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 08:44:45 -0400 From: Julie Pike Organization: National Association of State Development Agencies X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net CC: KJS@iti.org Subject: Re: Michigan P2 Technical Assistance for Small-Medium Manufacturers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Mr. Saulter, The National Association of State Development Agencies (NASDA) manages a program known as the Environmental Technology Fund (Tech Fund). The Tech Fund, funded through the US-Asia Environmental Partnership (US-AEP) with monies from the US Agency for International Development (USAID), offers grants to small and medium sized US environmental companies to assist them in exporting to Asia. I realize that this may not be exactly the type of "technical assistance" you were referring to, but there are monies available to small and medium-sized P2 export-ready companies in Michigan and elsewhere. The grant process involves a short (5-7 page) proposal that is reviewed by a Review Panel that meets about every 6-8 weeks. For more information on the the program as well as specific details about the application process, please feel free to contact me at jpike@nasda.com or by phone or fax. Regards, Julie -- Julie S. Pike Project Director National Association of State Development Agencies 750 First Street, NE Suite 710 Washington, DC 20002 (ph) 202/898-1302 (fax) 202/898-1312 From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 08:42:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA09546 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 08:55:05 -0400 From: ROBERT SINGLETON To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Need Information, Please Help... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks! I really appreciate the help. Thanks, Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern EPA Headquarters From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 08:46:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA09729 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 08:58:46 -0400 From: ROBERT SINGLETON To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Need Information, Please Help... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks! I will visit the site soon. Thanks, Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern EPA Headquarters From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 08:50:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA09912 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 08:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 09:02:25 -0400 From: ROBERT SINGLETON To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: RE: Need Information, Please Help... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Thanks! I am sure the information at this site will be most helpful. Thanks, Robert C. Singleton III Graduate Intern EPA Headquarters From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 10:11:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA14239 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970908102457.00b3b2ec@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 10:24:57 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Janet Clark Subject: Re: Remanufacturing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech >>Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:05:10 -0400 >>To: p2tech@great-lakes.net=20 >>From: jsaxe >>Subject: Remanufacturing=20 >>Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net=20 >>Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net=20 >>List-Name: P2Tech >> >>I*m looking to talk with other Manufacturing Extension= Partners(MEP)directly >>involved with: >>=B7 programs finding/connecting the use of recycled-content materials as >>feedstock (e.g.connecting generators of unwanted materials with users of= the >>material) >>=B7 working with manufacturers to consider recycled-content materials as >>feedstock alternatives >>=B7 programs promoting the use of recycled-content materials as feedstock >>alternatives >>=B7 programs promoting the economic development opportunities of using >>recycled-content materials as feedstock >>Please let me know how you are affiliated with the effort: >>=B7 in-house as part of MEP program >>=B7 support as partner >>=B7 housed within same operation but separate budget >> Hi Jsaxe, The Massachusetts Manufacturing Partnership has a program supporting the use of recycled plastics feedstocks and recycled paper. It is a grant program I think, undertaken in partnership with the Chelsea Recycle Center. For details call Beverly Cadorette of the MMP (617-727-8158) or Amy Perlmutter of the Chelsea Center (617-887-2300) Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 978-934-3346 Fax 978-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more.= =20 From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 10:34:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA15545 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:34:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard Dooley" Organization: SAIC To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:50:36 EST Subject: Re: Battery Recyclers X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-Id: <45226A7242D@LAN828.EHSG.SAIC.COM> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This comes from a colleague of mine: --------------------------------------------- Here's a lead on battery recycling. Perhaps you could forward to whomever sent the message. I can't tell who it is from. Below is the national industry group which is setting up the system for recycling NiCads nationwide; they are now expanding into Canada. Just about every manufacturer of NiCads in the country is a member. Rechargeable Battery Recycling Coalition 4210 NW 37th Place, Ste. 400 Gainsville, FL 32606 Phone: 352-376-5135 FAX: 352-376-6658 Email: rbrc@aol.com The RBRC has an Eastern and Western Regional Office. RBRCcan send you a list of battery recyclers. Any interest in reducing the generation of waste lead/acids through the use of solar/pulse technology? These batteries should be outlasting the vehicle, and not being discarded. We are not doing nearly enough on batttery P2. ---------------------------- __________________________ Richard Dooley Environmental Management Specialist 11251 Roger Bacon Dr.; M/S 4-3; Rm. #4009 SAIC - Pollution Prevention Division Reston, VA 20190 e-mail: rdooley@lan828.ehsg.saic.com Ph: 703-318-4608 Fax: 703-736-0826 From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 10:50:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA16331 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 10:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <341491E0.55D1@cipn.es> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 17:01:36 -0700 From: Centre for Cleaner Production Inicitiatives Organization: Centre d'Iniciatives per a la Produccio Neta X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech Subject: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a hospital Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear p2techs, One hospital has asked us about alternatives to substitute the caustic alkali solution (sodium hypochlorite) they used for cleaning and disinfecting. The alternatives should not contain chlorine. Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona Spain e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es fax: +34 3 4144582 From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 12:34:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA22170 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 12:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 12:43:28 -0400 From: Warren Weinstein Subject: RE: Fwd: First American Scientific Corp. To: Leib Kaminsky , list serve NPPR , P2 Tech List serve Message-ID: <199709081243_MC2-1F9D-19C3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hey, Warren! I had the same problem, so I did some searching. The URL is www.fasc.com, as one might expect. Sounds like an interesting technology. Especially for dewatering and tire pile management. Thanks. Bob Goldberg Washington State Department of Ecology Southwest Regional Office Hazardous Waste and Toxics Reduction Program P.O. Box 47775 Olympia, WA 98504-7775 phone: (360) 407-6350 fax: (360) 407-6305 e-mail: bgol461@ecy.wa.gov URL: www.wa.gov/ecology/hwtr ---------- From: Warren Weinstein[SMTP:WWeinstein@compuserve.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 1997 7:15 AM To: INTERNET:nppr@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Fwd: First American Scientific Corp. Sherman, I passed your message onto "my source." He should be getting back to you if he has any additional contact info. Sorry about the inconvenience. Warren = ------ =3D_NextPart_001_01BCBC31.05090D70 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey, Warren!  I had the same problem, so I did some =3D searching.  The URL is www.fasc.com, as one might expect.  =3D Sounds like an interesting technology.  Especially for dewatering =3D= and tire pile management.  Thanks.


Bob Goldberg
Washington State Department of Ecology
Southwest Regional Office
Hazardous Waste and Toxics Reduction Program
P.O. Box 47775
Olympia, WA  98504-7775
phone: (360) 407-6350
fax: (360) 407-6305
e-mail: bgol461@ecy.wa.gov
URL: www.wa.gov/ecology/hwtr



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From:  Warren Weinstein[SMTP:WWeinstein@compuserve.com]
Sent:  Monday, September 08, 1997 7:15 AM
To:  INTERNET:nppr@great-lakes.net
Subject:  Re: Fwd: First American Scientific =3D Corp.

Sherman,

I passed your message onto= =3D "my source."   He should be getting back to =3D you
if he has any additional =3D= contact info.  Sorry about the inconvenience.

Warren 

------ =3D_NextPart_001_01BCBC31.05090D70-- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D End Part 2 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 13:10:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA23896 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15CD923A019F59D9@tellus.org> Date: 08 Sep 97 13:17:00 EST From: Diana Zinkl To: uunet!great-lakes.net!p2tech@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Substitution of caustic alk X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I don't know much about disinfecting and I am not a doctor, but what about a sodium hydroxide solution or potassium hydroxide/isopropyl alcohol solution? Diana Zinkl Tellus Institute 11 Arlington St. Boston, MA 02116 tel: (617) 266-5400, fax: (617) 266-8303 dzinkl@tellus.org, http://www.tellus.org (note change from 'tellus.com'. '.com' is still usable) From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 14:06:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA27019 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 14:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 14:14:58 -0400 From: David Williams To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 Training Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I am currently developing a one day training session for the EH&S managers at our EU facilities and would like to include some example diagrams illustrating various P2 tools, such as fishbone diagrams and process maps. I have hard copy examples of these, but would like to get electronic versions that I could import into Microsoft PowerPoint. Does anybody know where I can access these types of electronic files? Thank you in advance for your assistance. David Williams Project Manager American Home Products Corporation One Campus Drive Parsippany, NJ 07054 (973) 683-2269/(973) 683-4060 (fax) Williad7@ahp.com From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 8 19:18:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA10539 for p2tech-out; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 19:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 08 Sep 1997 16:27:16 PDT From: "Kathryn Barwick" Subject: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a hospital To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Comment: HW1 KBARWICK 09/08/97 16:27:28 HW1SSW1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV *** Forwarding note from MPRIDE --HW1 09/08/97 16:25 *** To: KBARWICK--HW1 FROM: Mary Pride Subject: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a hospital A germicide detergent (quaternary ammonia mixed with detergent) can be used to kill bacteria for housekeeping. It is mixed with water and left for 10 minutes before wiping. (This is not an endorsement, but one such product is called A33 and is made by Air Chem.) Labs also use sodium hpypochlorite to clean glassware. I would need to do further research to verify if any local hospitals have found an effective substitute in that cleaning process. Mary Pride Phone: (916) 324-1088 DTSC/OPPTD Fax: (916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-Mail Address: Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.MPRIDE@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV *** Forwarding note from KBARWICK--HW1 09/08/97 09:04 *** To: MPRIDE --HW1 FROM: Kathryn Barwick Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Subject: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a hospital any suggestions? I'll forward any you may have. Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV *** Forwarding note from P2TECH --HW1SMTP 09/08/97 08:04 *** To: P2TECH --HW1SMTP P2TECH Subject: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a hospital Sender's Nativename=p2tech@GREAT-LAKES.NET Dear p2techs, One hospital has asked us about alternatives to substitute the caustic alkali solution (sodium hypochlorite) they used for cleaning and disinfecting. The alternatives should not contain chlorine. Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards Esther Monfa Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 08006 Barcelona Spain e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es fax: +34 3 4144582 From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 08:44:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA02150 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 08:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D01A6041D@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Bray, Gregory A." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a hospital Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 08:52:35 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I sent your question on to a coworker and got this response. Feel free to contact her directly at kkf@rti.org if you want to further the discussion. (See below). -greg > ---------- > From: Foarde, Karin K. > Sent: Monday, September 08, 1997 4:06 PM > To: Bray, Gregory A. > Subject: RE: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a > hospital > > Do they want to retain the disinfectant properties? Sodium > hypochlorite and other compounds are used primarily for disinfectant, > then cleaning. If they just need a cleaner they have more options. If > they want disinfectant capabilities there are far few options. Also we > need to know what organisms they need to kill. > > > > ---------- > From: Centre for Cleaner Production > Inicitiatives[SMTP:prodneta@cipn.es] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Monday, September 08, 1997 8:01 PM > To: p2tech > Subject: Substitution of caustic alkali solution in a hospital > > Dear p2techs, > > One hospital has asked us about alternatives to substitute the caustic > alkali solution (sodium hypochlorite) they used for cleaning and > disinfecting. The alternatives should not contain chlorine. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Best regards > > > > Esther Monfa > Centre for Cleaner Production Initiatives > Travessera de Gracia, 56, 4 > 08006 Barcelona > Spain > e-mail: prodneta@cipn.es > fax: +34 3 4144582 > From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 09:29:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA04378 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 09:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Tue, 09 Sep 1997 09:38:38 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Jo Anne Hollash (717) 787-7382" Subject: Re: Textile Waste To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: Marjorie Hughes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 09:38:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: E522ZXABDS77T X400-Mts-Identifier: [;83839090907991/888874@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Your client may wish to try an industrial waste exchange in their geographic area. Another source for businesses that recycle fabric may be a recycled products guide. In Pennsylvania, the Pennsylvania Resources Council (PRC) provides such a guide. Contact PRC at http://www.prc.org Another source for help for this request may be a textile trade association. Jo Anne From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 12:49:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA15129 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:11:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199709091511.LAA03667@ns.isaac.net> X-Sender: el@isaac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: el Subject: Re: Textile Waste Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 09:26 AM 9/9/97 -0500, you wrote: > Your client may wish to try an industrial waste exchange in their > geographic area. > > Another source for businesses that recycle fabric may be a recycled > products guide. In Pennsylvania, the Pennsylvania Resources Council > (PRC) provides such a guide. Contact PRC at http://www.prc.org > > Another source for help for this request may be a textile trade > association. > > Jo An > > I missed the original post to this, would the original sender please forward me a copy. I have an idea, it will probably be a bit "off-beat", but it is an idea nonetheless. Thanks -- el El Brant Brant Business Network http://www.isaac.net/~el el@isaac.net sponsor of the Lovebird Mailing List http://www.isaac.net/~el/lb/ el@wilmington.net From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 13:27:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA17149 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D01A806B3@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Baskir, Jesse N." To: "'P2Tech'" Subject: FW: FW: Textile Waste Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:36:53 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > ---------- > From: Mary Sue Brewer[SMTP:msbrewer@hestia.fcs.uga.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 9:27 AM > To: Baskir, Jesse N. > Subject: Re: FW: Textile Waste > > There are processors that handle cotton polyester blend cuttings. > Some located in the Southeast are listed on our website-- > http://www.fcs.uga.edu/tmi/wastedb/ > > Mary Sue Brewer Textiles, Marketing & Interiors > 367 Dawson Hall University of Georgia, Athens, GA, 30602 > (706)542-3758 email msbrewer@fcs.uga.edu > From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 13:36:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA17819 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709091746.MAA14329@mailhub.iastate.edu> X-Sender: rprusk@pop-2.iastate.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 12:46:56 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Richard Rusk Subject: Use for rubber dust Cc: iac@camp.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech My group has visited a client who generates 312,000 pounds per year of rubber dust. This comes from using a wire brush to grind the ends of hydraulic hoses so fittings can be attached. The dust now goes to the landfill. Is there an alternative use? The client has long range plans to use fittings that do not require the grinding operation. Part of the plan will be to sell the customers on the reliability of the new fittings. Thanks for your help. ------------------------------------------ Richard Rusk, P.E. Iowa State University 409 Marston Hall Ames, IA 50011-2153 rprusk@iastate.edu phone 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 ------------------------------------------ From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 14:16:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA20092 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 14:13:50 -0700 From: m_pye@ccmail.pnl.gov (Miriam Pye) Subject: energy efficiency To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <002757E2.4025@ccmail.pnl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: cc:Mail note part Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech In an effort to bring the energy efficiency and P2 communities together, I am looking for instances in which P2 projects include an energy efficiency component. All input appreciated. Miriam Pye Research Associate American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE) 1001 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 801 Washington DC 20036 202-429-8873 From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 14:17:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA20148 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709091817.OAA20148@cedar.cic.net> From: "EADC team Blue Accnt # 7" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Hazardous glue Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hello, I am dealing with a leather manufacturing company that uses a hazardous glue for pasting layers of leather together. I was looking into replacing the hazardous glue with a water based adhesive. If anyone has any information regarding this, that would be great. I have also contacted a water-based adhesive vendor, and that person said that water-based adhesives are available and they can either be 2 parts or 3 parts (i.e 1 part glue to 2 or 3 part water dilution) does that sound resonable! My E-mail is eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu please E-mail and let me know of any information you might have come across. Even other vendors contacts are welcome. Thank you. Patty MuthuswamyPatty Muthuswamy Team Leader Industrial Assessment Center University of Florida e-mail: eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 14:21:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA20390 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709091821.OAA20390@cedar.cic.net> From: "Norma Murphy" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Paint Solids Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech A company I'm working with is looking for markets/reuse options for its paint solids. The company is a large truck manufacturer that operates a paint spray booth with a waterwash collection system. The overspray from the urethane-based paints is collected in the water wash and coagulated by a chemical additive. The overspray is flocced to the water surface and skimmed off the water into dewatering bags. Approximately 600 lbs of paint waste are generated every 2-3 days. If anyone had any ideas, please respond. I appreciate your assistance. Thanks Norma Murphy Norma Murphy Division of Pollution Prevention P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626 919-715-6513 From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 14:47:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA21811 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <19970909.145607.M0FLEI01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> Date: 9 Sep 1997 14:56:07 EDT From: To: Subject: Use for rubber dust Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: JCWATT01--ULKYVM *** Reply to note of 09/09/97 14:47 From: Marvin Fleischman, Dept. of Chemical Engineering, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292 Phone: 502-852-6357, email:m0flei01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu Subject: Use for rubber dust Have you contacted a rubber co.,e.g., tire manufacturer, or a rubber trade association? It might also be incorporated into road paving material. Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, Department of Chemical Engineering, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, 502/852-6357, FAX:502/852-6355, email:m0flei01@ulkyvm. louisville.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 14:58:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA22424 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCBD2A.06CFA980.grote@epd.engr.wisc.edu> From: Grote To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Hazardous glue Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:09:43 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech You should also look into glues that are solids and activated by heat and/or pressure. No solvents are even better than water based solvents, but as is so often the case the devil is in the details of the process. There is no such thing as a process independent material substitution. ___________________________________________________ Rick Grote, Ph.D. Solid & Hazardous Waste Education Center, SHWEC Wisconsin Manufacturing Extension Partnership, WMEP 610 Langdon Street, Room 530, Madison, WI 53703-1195 Phone:(608) 265-3055 FAX:(608) 262-6250 e-mail: grote@engr.wisc.edu -----Original Message----- From: EADC team Blue Accnt # 7 [SMTP:EADC_BL7@ise.ufl.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 7:17 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Hazardous glue Hello, I am dealing with a leather manufacturing company that uses a hazardous glue for pasting layers of leather together. I was looking into replacing the hazardous glue with a water based adhesive. If anyone has any information regarding this, that would be great. I have also contacted a water-based adhesive vendor, and that person said that water-based adhesives are available and they can either be 2 parts or 3 parts (i.e 1 part glue to 2 or 3 part water dilution) does that sound resonable! My E-mail is eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu please E-mail and let me know of any information you might have come across. Even other vendors contacts are welcome. Thank you. Patty MuthuswamyPatty Muthuswamy Team Leader Industrial Assessment Center University of Florida e-mail: eadc_bl7@ise.ufl.edu From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 15:29:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA24122 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCBD1D.5B0CD480.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Use for rubber dust Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:39:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard, The rubber dust could easily be used to make rubber molded or extruded products (like the hoses its coming from). There are many products that use rubber crumb of various mesh sizes. Your "dust" would probably qualify for 100 minus mesh size which has a rough market value of $0.40 per pound - depending on quality and contamination. Allan ---------------------------------------------------- Allan Butler, Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Richard Rusk [SMTP:rprusk@iastate.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 10:47 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: iac@camp.rutgers.edu Subject: Use for rubber dust My group has visited a client who generates 312,000 pounds per year of rubber dust. This comes from using a wire brush to grind the ends of hydraulic hoses so fittings can be attached. The dust now goes to the landfill. Is there an alternative use? The client has long range plans to use fittings that do not require the grinding operation. Part of the plan will be to sell the customers on the reliability of the new fittings. Thanks for your help. ------------------------------------------ Richard Rusk, P.E. Iowa State University 409 Marston Hall Ames, IA 50011-2153 rprusk@iastate.edu phone 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 ------------------------------------------ From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 15:44:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA24982 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:56:16 -0400 From: Craig Butler To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: energy efficiency Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Miriam: There are several activities that may interest you in Ohio with respect to energy efficiency and P2. For example, the P2 assessments completed by Ohio EPA have, in a limited number of instances, included an assessmnet of lighting energy efficiency. We'd be glad to send you a copy of one or more of these "combined" reports. Contact Jeff Lewis for a copy of these reports at (614) 644-2812. Also, the Ohio Department of Development, Office of Energy Efficiency has a grant with the Institute of Advanced Manufacturing Sciences (IAMS) to market an integrated assessment loan program. This program combines manufacturing, environmental, and energy assessments and is funded through a low interest loan program by Ohio. IAMS also provides these integrated assessments for a fee for thier member businesses. Susan Covey is the contact at the Department of Development. (614) 466-8425. I think both of these activities are in the area of what you are looking for. I am sure there are other examples too. Craig Butler Ohio EPA, Office of Pollution Prevention (614) 644-2825 From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 16:09:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA26314 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709092019.PAA28876@mailhub.iastate.edu> X-Sender: rprusk@pop-2.iastate.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 15:19:38 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Richard Rusk Subject: Rubber dust responses Cc: iac@camp.rutgers.edu, nthomson@iastate.edu, gmaxwell@iastate.edu Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have already received several good suggestions about the rubber dust. Thanks everyone for your quick response. I thought I would fill the group in about my further searching. Using Yahoo I found a site named Recycler's World. It is at http://www.recycle.net. In the Rubber section I responded by e-mail to a listing asking for any grade of rubber. I got back a phone call in about half an hour. It was from a man who is trying to line up fuel supplies for a client. He was willing to give me a ballpark price for their service to haul the rubber away. The price would be lower than the landfill price. I also found a company that sells rubber. There was a phone number and contact name. One of the grad students in my office called to see if they buy as well as sell. The answer was yes, and again we got a ballpark price. This will give us plenty of information to proceed at this point. It seems clear that there is value to this material and it should not be going to the landfill. ------------------------------------------ Richard Rusk, P.E. Iowa State University 409 Marston Hall Ames, IA 50011-2153 rprusk@iastate.edu phone 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 ------------------------------------------ From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 9 17:21:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA29684 for p2tech-out; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 17:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709092131.QAA591536@mail1.doit.wisc.edu> X-Sender: enevers@facstaff.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 17:11:39 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Elizabeth Nevers Subject: Re: energy efficiency Cc: kstanek@students.wisc.edu Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Miriam, Our new Home*A*Syst program incorporated energy efficiency into household P2. Home*A*Syst enables households to assess environmental risk inside and outside their home. We have a home heating and cooling assessment as one of the chapters in the workbook that a homeowner or renter would use. We also look at pollution risks to groundwater , surface water and indoor air. If you are interested in seeing more about the materials or who your state Home*A*Syst contact is check out our website at : http://www.wisc.edu/homeasyst/ Our national Home*A*Syst coordinator is Kay Stanek at 608-265-8545 or YOu can also contact me. ----------------------- In an effort to bring the energy efficiency and P2 communities together, I am looking for instances in which P2 projects include an energy efficiency component. All input appreciated. Miriam Pye Research Associate American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE) 1001 Connecticut Avenue, NW, Suite 801 Washington DC 20036 202-429-8873 ================================== Liz Nevers Nat'l Farm*A*Syst / Home*A*Syst Programs B142 Steenbock Library 550 Babcock Drive Madison, Wisconsin 53706 Phone: 608-265-2774 Fax: 608-265-2775 Email: enevers@facstaff. wisc.edu Web site: http://www.wisc.edu/farmasyst ================================== From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 08:04:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA26758 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:02:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 10-Sep-1997 8:15:04 -0400; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <2B8C163401501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Re: Hazardous glue From: dionne@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Dionne, Denis) Date: 10 Sep 97 08:19:18 EDT In-Reply-To: <238C163401501C76@-SMF-> References: <238C163402501C76@-SMF-> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech You may find that the water based glue in the layered product (especially if there is a significant number of layers) might require drying times exceeding their cycle time goals. Drying of water based glues can be accelerated from overnight drying to a few seconds using properly designed and operated radio-frequency ovens. Using this drying method might make this P2 effort even more attractive to your customer! We have access collaborating laboratory in Canada that could perform testing if that can be of assistance to your customer. Denis Dionne Technology Analyst, Concurrent Technologies Corporation E-Mail: dionne@ctc.com http://www.ctc.com Phone: (814) 269-2739 Fax: (814) 269-6218 From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 09:58:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA02146 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:57:22 -0400 (EDT) From: RossRadTec@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:07:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970910100605_1007294568@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: UV/EB@radtech.com Subject: Re: Hazardous glue Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech For Patty in Florida, Rick Grote is correct in recommending non-solvent adhesives. However, there is a better solution than solid adhesives which introduce other difficulties. I recommend you look into liquid adhesives that convert 100% into solid adhesive when cured with UV light or low energy electron beams. Such adhesives are currently used to laminate plastic films. They can be applied with conventional equipment but require UV or EB generators for curing. However, the benefits are great. Cure is virtually instantaneous . There is no need for heat or pressure of any kind. There are virtually no emissions because the materials are solventless. For more information contact RadTech International : www.radtech.com Alex Ross For From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 10:54:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA05803 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709101454.KAA05803@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jack Annis Subject: Re: Paint Solids Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Norma, Caterpillar has developed a recovery process for paint solids of this type and there are some other companies that have the capability to do so. I am out of my office today but I can get the people to contact and email it to you tomorrow if you wish. Please send an email directly to me so that I can get your return email address. Jack At 02:21 PM 9/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >A company I'm working with is looking for markets/reuse options for >its paint solids. The company is a large truck manufacturer that >operates a paint spray booth with a waterwash collection system. The >overspray from the urethane-based paints is collected in the water >wash and coagulated by a chemical additive. The overspray is flocced >to the water surface and skimmed off the water into dewatering bags. >Approximately 600 lbs of paint waste are generated every 2-3 days. > >If anyone had any ideas, please respond. I appreciate your >assistance. > >Thanks > >Norma Murphy >Norma Murphy >Division of Pollution Prevention >P.O. Box 29569 >Raleigh, NC 27626 >919-715-6513 > > > From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 10:55:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA05873 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709101454.KAA05873@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Hazardous glue From: dionne@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Dionne, Denis) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech You may find that the water based glue in the layered product (especially if there is a significant number of layers) might require drying times exceeding their cycle time goals. Drying of water based glues can be accelerated from overnight drying to a few seconds using properly designed and operated radio-frequency ovens. Using this drying method might make this P2 effort even more attractive to your customer! We have access collaborating laboratory in Canada that could perform testing if that can be of assistance to your customer. Denis Dionne Technology Analyst, Concurrent Technologies Corporation E-Mail: dionne@ctc.com http://www.ctc.com Phone: (814) 269-2739 Fax: (814) 269-6218 From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 12:15:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA10423 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:15:38 -0400 (EDT) From: WasteMin@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970910122306_437101538@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 lesson Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have just started working on a lesson for middle school kids and need some information. I am looking for some data that quantifies the environmental impact of a typical American lifestyle in terms kids can understand. For example, "It takes an average of four acres of farmland to feed an average American family of four for a year" or "For every mile travelled by an American car, $40 tax dollars are spent maintaining roads and bridges." (Note that these "facts" are EXAMPLES of the type of information I want and are not true statistics!) Has anyone seen a compendium of info like this? Thanks. Mark Boylan WASTREN, Inc. 22 Executive Park Court Germantown MD 20875 301/540-5403 wastemin@aol.com From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 14:06:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA16452 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:06:20 -0400 (EDT) From: crains@deq.state.id.us (Rains, Charlotte) To: p2tech@great-lakes.net (p2tech) Message-ID: <1997Sep10.121331.1128.397071@admmsmgw.state.id.us> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail via PostalUnion/SMTP for Windows NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Organization: State of Idaho Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:16:07 -0600 Subject: RE: Slag Abrasives Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Here in Idaho we recently witnessed a demonstration of glass grinding equipment. One of the products was a very fine glass that can used as a = blasting media. The contact person for this equipment/technology is: Rob Howard Enviro-glass Caldwell, Id - (208)459-2815 Middleton, Id - (208)585-6247 I hope that this information helps. Charley Rains Prevention Outreach Specialist Idaho Division of Environmental Quality 1410 N. Hilton Boise, ID 83706 (208) 373-0112 ---------- From: p2tech To: P2TECH Subject: Slag Abrasives Date: Thursday, September 04, 1997 3:09PM I have a question about blasting media that was posed to me today and I welcome input on an answer... Conventional blasting media for paint removal is sand, which can pose a risk of silicosis workers. A company is promoting a "slag abrasive" as a safer, environmentally friendly alternative to sand. Any P2TECHies heard about this or have a comment? Thanks, Michaek Keefe keefem@psinet.com Tetra Tech EM, Inc. ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from adm-smtp.state.id.us by admmsmgw.state.id.us (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9g for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1997Sep04.150455.1128.236708; Thu, 04 Sep 1997 15:04:56 -0600 Received: from cedar.cic.net ([192.131.22.3]) by adm-smtp.state.id.us (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with ESMTP= id AAA178 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 15:07:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA02300 for p2tech-out; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 16:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709042032.QAA27423@smtp1.interramp.com> From: "Mike Keefe" To: "P2TECH" Subject: Slag Abrasives Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:26:09 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 15:42:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA22378 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970910194926.0066febc@unlvm.unl.edu> X-Sender: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:49:26 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jan Hygnstrom Subject: Re: P2 lesson Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Mark, if you can get your hands on back issues of the magazine called Garbage, each issue had a side bar with information such as "The average American household used XX gallons of water daily, or XX kwh's. It was called the Garbage Index. Another magazine issued by the National Wildlife Federation called National Wildlife also gives side bars. >From Garbage: Oct-Nov 1992: Pages of press releases, memos and schedules printed by the UN in Rio each day at the Earth Summit (Remember way back when?) 520,000. Number of garbagemen working at the Summit convention building: 220 Amount of garbage hauled away from the convention building each day of the conference: 7 tons. And on another topic: Typical reduced electricity for lighting in offices participating in EPA's Green Lights program: 52% Amount of toilet paper used in the US, 1991: 2,343,000 tons. (It would be interesting to convert this to the number of elephants that have a similar weight!) Amount of US sewage sludge produced annually: 110-150 million wet metric tons. At 12:25 PM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote: >I have just started working on a lesson for middle school kids and need some >information. I am looking for some data that quantifies the environmental >impact of a typical American lifestyle in terms kids can understand. For >example, "It takes an average of four acres of farmland to feed an average >American family of four for a year" or "For every mile travelled by an >American car, $40 tax dollars are spent maintaining roads and bridges." (Note >that these "facts" are EXAMPLES of the type of information I want and are not >true statistics!) > >Has anyone seen a compendium of info like this? > >Thanks. > >Mark Boylan >WASTREN, Inc. >22 Executive Park Court >Germantown MD 20875 >301/540-5403 >wastemin@aol.com > > > > From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 16:10:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA23815 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:19:19 -0400 From: GARY BERTRAM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 lesson -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Mark, Our Kid's Page has a few facts. Maybe you can use one or two. The page with these facts is at http://www.epa.gov/region07/kids/diduknow.htm Gary Bertram U.S. EPA Region 7 913-551-7533 bertram.gary@epamail.epa.gov http://www.epa.gov/region07 From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 16:22:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA24448 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: WasteMin@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970910163127_-565626000@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 lesson, posting #2 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Today I posted a note asking for info on the resources required to support the American lifestyle for a course I am creating for local elementary schools. It was my first posting on P2-Tech and thanks to all who responded so quickly! What a great service. During my research today I learned about an upcoming PBS show on this topic. The show is coming September 15 at 9 eastern, 8 central on PBS called "Affluenza" dealing with the environmental/social consequences of consumerism. Visit their web page for more info at www.pbs.org/affluenza. Meanwhile, I have included here the bibliography I found at the web site. Take care! Mark Boylan WASTREN, Inc AFFLUENZA BIBLIOGRAPHY The American Economy. Herbert Stein and Murray Foss. Washington, D.C. American Enterprise Institute Press, 1995. An easy-to-read (with great graphics) look at 100 key aspects of the American economy by two leading conservative economists. Beyond The Limits. Donella Meadows, Dennis Meadows and Jorgen Randers. Post Mills, Vermont. Chelsea Green Publishing, 1992. Through computer models, this book explains that our present high-consumption lifestyle will lead to a global collapse within the lifetime of our grandchildren. The good news is that we can create a permanently sustainable global economy that could offer everyone on Earth a lifestyle as comfortable as the average in Europe in 1990. Biosphere Politics. Jeremy Rifkin. New York. Crown Publishers, 1991. One of America's most holistic and creative thinkers examines the environmental threats inherent in over-consumption and suggests strategies for a transition to sustainability. Circle of Simplicity. Cecile Andrews. New York. HarperCollins, 1997. A leader of the voluntary simplicity movement shows how study circles can help citizens simplify their lives and find community. A thorough critique of consumer society. The Consumer Society. Edited by Neva Goodwin, Frank Ackerman and David Kiron. Washington, D.C. Island Press, 1997. This is a fine collection of scholarly essays on all aspects of consumerism. Probably the best, most comprehensive introduction to the issue available. Includes a mix of current and historical material. Down-Shifting. Amy Saltzman. New York. HarperCollins, 1990. Fascinating stories of many Americans who have opted for a slower, simpler life. Giving Kids The Business. Alex Molnar. Boulder, Colorado. Westview Press, 1996. Molnar, a University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee educator, takes a close look at how corporate marketers are invading American schools and targeting children. The Golden Ghetto. Jessie H. O'Neill. Center City, Minnesota. Hazelden, 1997. A fascinating look at the psychology of affluence and affluenza's negative impacts on the lives of wealthy Americans. Written by the granddaughter of the former General Motors CEO. An excellent analysis of our addiction to wealth. The Harried Leisure Class. Staffan Linder. New York. Columbia University Press, 1970. A book that is becoming a classic. Linder shows how increasing affluence produces time scarcity and a stressful life. How Much Is Enough. Alan Durning. New York. Norton, 1992. A meticulously researched look at how much we consume and why it isn't making us happier. Already something of a classic. We also recommend Durning's other books, This Place on Earth and Stuff: The Everyday Life of Material Things. Durning shows just what resources it takes to make our lifestyle possible. Kids As Customers. James McNeal. New York. Lexington Books, 1992. An unabashedly favorable guide to marketing to children, with a special focus on "children as global consumers." This book is an excellent presentation of the marketers' side of the story. Margin. Richard Swenson. Colorado Springs, Colorado. Navpress, 1992. A family doctor and devout Christian discovers that much of his patients' pain is a direct result of the pressures of modern society and what he calls "possession overload." Swenson not only diagnoses the disease, he shows how to treat it. This book deserves much more visibility than it has so far received. Marketing Madness. Michael Jacobson and Laurie Mazur. Boulder, Colorado. Westview Press, 1995. Shows how advertising and other marketing strategies are invading every aspect of American life. Plenty of excellent illustrations. Material World. Peter Menzel. San Francisco. Sierra Club Books, 1994. Menzel photographs the possessions of average families in countries throughout the world, showing in stunningly powerful pictures the abyss between the rich and poor in today's world. The Overworked American. Juliet Schor. New York. Basic Books, 1993. In this excellent best-seller, Harvard economist Schor demonstrates that Americans are working longer hours today than they did a generation ago, as they've become caught in a "work and spend cycle." The Politics of Rich and Poor. Kevin Philips. New York. Random House, 1990. Former Nixon adviser Philips examines the reasons that the United States has dropped to dead last among industrial nations in the fairness of its income distribution. The Poverty of Affluence. Paul Wachtel. Philadelphia. New Society Publishers, 1989. Wachtel, chairman of the Clinical Psychology Graduate Program at the City College of New York, examines the price we pay for our obsession with economic growth and demonstrates why consuming more doesn't make us happier. A thorough look at the psychological dimensions of affluenza. A Reasonable Life. Ferenc Mate. New York. Norton, 1993. A bitingly humorous look at modern consumer society with suggestions for a simpler, saner life. Satisfaction Guaranteed. Susan Strasser. New York. Pantheon Books, 1989. A historian tracks the development of the consumer lifestyle. Well researched and eminently readable. The Search for Meaning. Thomas Naylor, William Willimon and Magdalena Naylor. Nashville. Abingdon Press, 1994. Shows why the American consumer lifestyle leaves us without a sense of meaning and purpose in our lives and how we can find meaning. The Simple Life. David Shi. New York. Oxford University Press, 1985. A history of simple living movements in the United States by the President of Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina. First-rate scholarship and writing. Fascinating from start to finish. The Simple Living Guide. Janet Luhrs. New York. Broadway Books, 1997. An excellent sourcebook for less stressful, more joyful living. Has sections on how to find more fulfillment in money, work, family and celebrations, as well as how to find cheaper housing and cut the clutter out of life. Simple Living. Frank Levering and Wanda Urbanska. New York. Penguin, 1992. Reads like a good novel. The story of one couple's search for a simpler, less acquisitive way of life as they abandon the fast lane in Los Angeles to take over a failing family orchard in the Blue Ridge Mountains. Honest writing about the pitfalls and pleasures of voluntary simplicity. Hard to put down. Steady State Economics. Herman Daly. Washington, D.C. Island Press, 1991. The former World Bank economist shows how it is possible to maintain a healthy economy without constant economic growth. A classic-to-be. The Tightwad Gazette. Amy Daczcyn. New York. Villard, 1996. Three volumes of helpful tips for anyone interested in living more frugally. Trends 2000. Gerald Celente. New York. Warner, 1997. A careful look at emerging trends by one of the best trend-trackers in the business. Celente, director of the Trends Research Institute in Rhinebeck, New York, sees voluntary simplicity as one of the top 10 trends of the 1990s, and one which is growing in popularity all over the world. Voluntary Simplicty. Duane Elgin. New York. Morrow, 1981. The classic on the subject. Elgin examines 1970s efforts toward simpler lifestyles and shows what it takes to succeed. Still highly relevant today. When Corporations Rule the World. David Korten. West Hartford, Connecticut. Kumarian Press, 1995. A development expert and former Harvard Business School professor comes to realize that expansion of the American consumer lifestyle throughout the world threatens the environment and local cultures, and widens the gap between rich and poor. Shows how affluenza is becoming a global disease. Whole Life Economics. Barbara Brandt. Philadelphia. New Society Publishers, 1995. An alternative paradigm to the consumer society. Good ideas for making the economy more friendly to people and the environment. Work Without End. Benjamin Hunnicutt. Philadelphia. Temple University Press, 1988. A scholarly look at how the gospel of consumption replaced demands for shorter working hours as the American economy grew. Your Money Or Your Life. Joe Dominguez and Vicki Robin. New York. Penguin Books, 1992. Shows readers how to take control of their lives by learning frugality, and how to help make the Earth a better place at the same time. Another classic-to-be, this book is becoming a best-seller worldwide and has been translated into several languages. From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 10 16:43:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA25502 for p2tech-out; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D01AAEAB5@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: re: consumer impact on the environment Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:52:43 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hope this isn't too far off-topic here, but the discussion of U.S. lifestyle environmental impacts got me thinking about a parallel discussion going on on an environmental law listserv about the tragedy of the commons. One of the points that came up is that the planet lacks the resources to provide every person with the resources that privledged citizens (like us) take for granted. Exerpted below are some thoughts from Monsanto's CEO on the future of business in a world where not everyone can have everything. regards, Melissa Malkin > ---------- > From: Redick, Thomas[SMTP:Thomas_Redick@McKennaCuneo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 1:41 AM > To: MJMALKIN@rti.org > Cc: abasonreel@abanet.org > Subject: Re: Alternative compliance with regulatory objectives > -Reply > > I highly recommend the recent "sustainability" issue of the Harvard > Business Review (Jan 1997?) which offers a 21at century corporate > perspective that is surprisingly long term and directly addresses the > tragedy of the commons and the life cycle of regulated industry. > <> > > Perhaps the most intriguing article features Harold Shapiro, the CEO > of > Monsanto, who predicts that population growth will bring cause > profound > environmental degradation. He describes the tragedy of the commons in > stark terms: > "There are about 5.8 billion people in the world. About 1.5 billion > of > them live in conditions of abject poverty (. . .). These people spend > their days > trying to get food and firewood so that they can make it to the next > day. As many as 800 million people are so severely malnourished that > they can neither work nor participate in family life. (. . .) > Without > radical change, the kind of world implied by those numbers is > unthinkable. It's a world of mass migration and environmental > degradation on an unimaginable scale. At best, it means the > preservation of a few islands of privilege and prosperity in a sea of > misery and violence." John Magoetta, Shapiro > interview at 80. > > Shapiro suggests that a new corporate approach is required: > > "We're entering a time of perhaps unprecedented discontinuity. > Businesses grounded in the old model will become obsolete and > die. At Monsanto, we're trying to invent some new businesses > around the concept of environmental sustainability. We may not > yet know exactly what those businesses will look like, but we're > willing to place some bets because the world cannot avoid needing > sustainability in the long run...Far from being a soft issue grounded > in emotion or ethics, sustainable development involves cold, > rational business logic." > > An integral part of this business strategy will be made from sharing > the > newfound > knowledge and technology with the developing countries, in order to > help > them "leapfrog from preindustrial to postindustrial systems without > having to pass through that destructive middle" Id. at 87. and > thereby > save the world from environmental degradation: > > "The developing countries can grow by brute force, by putting steel in > the ground and depleting their natural resources and burning a lot of > hydrocarbons. But a far better way to go would be for companies like > Monsanto to transfer their knowledge and help those countries avoid > the > mistakes of the past. If emerging economies have to > relive the entire industrial revolution with all its waste, its energy > use, and its pollution, I think it's all over" Id. > > Mr. Shapiro predicts that Monsanto's sustainable development business > strategy will be driven by the exponential growth in information > systems > and biotechnology: "The early twenty-first century is going to see a > struggle between information technology and biotechnology on the one > hand and environmental degradation on the other. > Information technology is going to be our most powerful tool. It will > let us miniaturize things, avoid waste, and produce more value without > producing and processing more stuff. The substitution of information > for stuff is essential to sustainability." Id. at 82. > > The US is far behind in this sustainability game -- the Nordic > countries > are light years ahead of us. Our leadership in information technology > and biotechnology could change that . I would like to suggest that > nearly thirty years later, those clear, uncomforting views discussed > below may be missing out on new information about how the world is > going to be doing business in the next milennium -- we hope. > > Tom Redick > McKenna & Cuneo > San Diego > thomas_redick@mckennacuneo.com > ---------- > From: soliva@consrv.ca.gov > To: Milmoe Cornelius > Cc: abasonreel@abanet.org > Subject: Re: Alternative compliance with regulatory objectives -Reply > Date: Tuesday, September 09, 1997 7:12PM > > > If you're going to examine The Tragedy of the Commons, don't forget > The > Tragedy of the Commons Revisited by Beryl Crowe (1969). Garrett > Hardin > required it (along with his own essay) in his Human Ecology courses. > You > can > extracts from Crowe's essay at > http://dieoff.org/page95.htm <. Both > agree > that the problem of natural resource demands by human populations > seems > intractable. Hardin suggests that only "mutual coercion, mutually > agreed > upon" (essentially via regulation of unrestricted actions affecting > the > "commons") because it's not in the long-term interest of individuals > to > be > altruistic. > > Crowe responds by pointing out that: > "... one writer postulated a common life cycle for all of the > attempts > to > develop regulatory policies. The life cycle is launched by an outcry > so > widespread and demanding that it generates enough political force to > bring > about establishment of a regulatory agency to insure the equitable, > just, > and rational distribution of the advantages among all holders of > interest in > the commons. This phase is followed by the symbolic reassurance of the > offended as the agency goes into operation, developing a period of > political > quiescence among the great majority of those who hold a general but > unorganized interest in the commons. Once this political quiescence > has > developed, the highly organized and specifically interested groups who > wish > to make incursions into the commons bring sufficient pressure to bear > through other political processes to convert the agency to the > protection > and furthering of their interests. In the last phase even staffing of > the > regulating agency is accomplished by drawing the agency administrators > from > the ranks of the regulated." > > Nearly thirty years later, these remain fairly clear, and uncomforting > views. > > > Milmoe Cornelius wrote: > > > >The issue is not Government v. Business, but a broader social dilemma > >explored in: > >Hardin, Garrett, "The Tragedy of the Commons", Science, > 162:1243-1248, 1968. > >(Now online at >http://www.abic.org/free/FP/TragedyCommons.html) > > > >See also the September, 1993 issue of Atlantic Monthly , "Can > Selfishness > >Save the Environment?" by Matt Ridley and Bobbi S. Low. > > Evan Slavitt wrote: > > ---------- > > The kind of paternalistic approach you envision -- children and the > keys to > the car -- is symptomatic of the approach the governments (state and > federal) have taken that have made some > progress but at enormous cost and with huge inefficiencies and > problems. > In > my view, it is past time for government to recognize that business > must > be > seen as a partner in the environmental process, not a wayward child. > Flexibility is not a privilege to be granted by the wise government > but > a > way of life that both government and business must bear joint -- and > equal > -- responsibility for. > > > Stephen E. Oliva e-mail: > soliva@consrv.ca.gov > Staff Counsel voice : 916-323-6733 > California Department of Conservation fax : 916-445-9916 > 801 K Street, MS 24-03 > Sacramento, CA 95814-3528 > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 07:27:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA22286 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 07:26:41 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 11 Sep 1997 07:33:38 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 11 Sep 1997 07:33:38 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 03D3C3417D712091-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 03D3C3417D712091 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"03D3C3417D712091*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 11 Sep 1997 07:33:38 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: P2Tech (Return requested) cc: "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: HyperSolv MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Know any companies that are using HyperSolv? It is designed to be a "drop-in" replacement for 1,1,1-Trichloroethane (Methyl chloroform). I have a company that is considering making the switch from 1,1,1 to this and they would like to talk to a company that has used HyperSolv. Any information would be appreciated, and you or the company can contact me in any way that is convenient to you. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 08:57:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA25146 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 08:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D01AAEABA@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: Envrironmental Law Listserv Info Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:06:36 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech P2Techies, I got a couple of requests for more information about the environmental law listserver (Many thanks for sending your requests to me privately, instead of cluttering up the list with "me too messages"!). 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Using a case study from a Dow Chemical Plant in LaPorte, Texas; the article points out that cost savings are not always enough to drive pollution prevention changes at a company. The article can be viewed at the American Chemical Society website at http://pubs.acs.org. If you can't access it, I will send you a copy upon request. Carrie Carrie Monosmith Environmental Quality Analyst Michigan Dept of Environmental Quality Environmental Assistance Division PO Box 30457 Lansing, MI 48909-7957 phone: 517-373-0604 fax: 517-373-3675 email: monosmic@state.mi.us From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 09:06:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA25556 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:14:38 -0400 From: Carrie Monosmith To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Lime By-product Reuse? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi everyone, Does anyone know of any reuse possibilities, other than agricultural application, for lime generated as a by-product of sugar beet processing? Carrie Carrie Monosmith Environmental Quality Analyst Michigan Dept of Environmental Quality Environmental Assistance Division PO Box 30457 Lansing, MI 48909-7957 phone: 517-373-0604 fax: 517-373-3675 email: monosmic@state.mi.us From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 09:55:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA27813 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970911100814.47e78002@alize.ere.umontreal.ca> X-Sender: begind@alize.ere.umontreal.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:08:14 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Denis Begin Subject: Re: HyperSolv In-Reply-To: <"03D3C3417D712091*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 07:33 97-09-11 -0400, you wrote: >Know any companies that are using HyperSolv? >It is designed to be a "drop-in" replacement for 1,1,1-Trichloroethane >(Methyl chloroform). I would like to know who sells HyperSolv and what is its chemical composition. Denis Begin, M.Sc. Agent de recherche/Research Assistant Universite de Montreal Med. du trav. et hyg. du milieu/Occup. and Environ. Health C.P. 6128, Succ. Centre-ville Montreal, Quebec, Canada H3C 3J7 514-343-2170 514-343-2200 (Fax) begind@ere.umontreal.ca From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 10:35:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA29960 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:33:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Williams" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:43:41 EST Subject: Re: Lime By-product Reuse? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <39191A316F8@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Any possibility for reuse for pH adjustment or sludge stabilization at the local POTW? I know of one acetylene manufacturer who found this to be an outlet for lime. > Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 09:14:38 -0400 > From: Carrie Monosmith > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Lime By-product Reuse? > Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Hi everyone, > > Does anyone know of any reuse possibilities, other > than agricultural application, for lime generated as a > by-product of sugar beet processing? > > Carrie > > Carrie Monosmith > Environmental Quality Analyst > Michigan Dept of Environmental Quality > Environmental Assistance Division > PO Box 30457 > Lansing, MI 48909-7957 > phone: 517-373-0604 > fax: 517-373-3675 > email: monosmic@state.mi.us > David Williams NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569 Tel: (919) 715-6527 Fax: (919) 715-6794 e-mail: david_williams@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Web site: http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/ From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 10:54:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA01152 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709111504.LAA13915@celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:04:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D." Subject: Re: P2 lesson Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 12:25 PM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote: >I have just started working on a lesson for middle school kids and need some >information. I am looking for some data that quantifies the environmental >impact of a typical American lifestyle in terms kids can understand. For >example, "It takes an average of four acres of farmland to feed an average >American family of four for a year" or "For every mile travelled by an >American car, $40 tax dollars are spent maintaining roads and bridges." (Note >that these "facts" are EXAMPLES of the type of information I want and are not >true statistics!) > >Has anyone seen a compendium of info like this? > >Thanks. > >Mark Boylan >WASTREN, Inc. >22 Executive Park Court >Germantown MD 20875 >301/540-5403 >wastemin@aol.com > I think that kids may respond well to information that more directly relates to choices they can make now. An example is the choice to listen to the radio or CD using disposable batteries, versus plugging in or using rechargeables. In order of environmental impact disposables > rechargeables > plugging in. Yet I would bet that you would find many boom boxes in kids rooms running on batteries, even when they are at school, sitting next to an outlet!> Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. 3475 Norwood, Suite N Shaker Heights, OH 44122-4975 e-mail: rec3@po.cwru.edu Voice: 216-991-6837 (w/voice mail) Fax: 216-991-6849 From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 11:18:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA02483 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970911154232.0069856c@ccsinc.com> X-Sender: fmartin@ccsinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:42:32 -0400 To: p2tech@cedar.cic.net From: Francis Martin Subject: Integrated EPA SW-846 *Update III* CD-ROM Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech FYI, The latest U.S. EPA Solid Waste Test Methods (SW-846) integrating Final Updates I, II, IIA, IIB and III, plus complete text, tables, graphs and flowcharts, can be ordered on CD-ROM. SW-846 is needed to comply with the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA) and satisfies the requirements of 40 CFR, Parts 122-270. The CD will be available for shipping in October, 1997. See http://www.env-sol.com/solutions/SW-846.HTML for details. Please excuse any cross-postings. Fran Martin FM Research & Consulting Richmond, Virgina fmartin@ccsinc.com From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 13:34:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA09760 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970911174105.0068caa4@unlvm.unl.edu> X-Sender: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:41:05 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jan Hygnstrom Subject: Vendor database Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I've been asked to post the following request. Please reply to Nate at <00223257@bigred.unl.edu> Thanks! I'm compiling a vendor database for pollution prevention equipment and materials. To help get started, I am looking for information from other people who have created databases. What software do you use, what database fields have you found valuable, and how did you get vendor information, other than through phone calls? I'd also appreciate help in finding vendors to include, especially those that are found in or service Nebraska and neighboring states. Your help is greatly appreciated. Nate Foged University of Nebraska-Lincoln 00223257@bigred.unl.edu From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 13:50:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA10742 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:00:52 -0400 From: Daniel Klempner To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, Norma_Murphy@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us Subject: Paint Solids -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Norma, We at the University of Detroit's Polymer Institute and Environmental Center have thought about this problem for a while and have some ideas. The best one would be to use this material as a filler to make composites using polyurethane as a binder. In this manner, cheap composite parts can be compression molded. We have a lot of experience in this technology and have been studying it for a variety of wastes. I would be glad to discuss this more with, including the possibility of our carrying out contract research for you in this matter. Daniel Klempner Executive Director Center of Excellence in Polymer Research and Environmental Studies University of Detroit Mercy (313) 993-3385 >>> Norma Murphy 9/9/97, 02:21pm >>> A company I'm working with is looking for markets/reuse options for its paint solids. The company is a large truck manufacturer that operates a paint spray booth with a waterwash collection system. The overspray from the urethane-based paints is collected in the water wash and coagulated by a chemical additive. The overspray is flocced to the water surface and skimmed off the water into dewatering bags. Approximately 600 lbs of paint waste are generated every 2-3 days. If anyone had any ideas, please respond. I appreciate your assistance. Thanks Norma Murphy Norma Murphy Division of Pollution Prevention P.O. Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626 919-715-6513 From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 15:06:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA15332 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <341841B7.770F@hevanet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 12:08:39 -0700 From: Margaret Reich Nover Organization: Portland's Pollution Prevention Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: P2 effect questionable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech A copy of an article from the Bureau of National Affairs journal called the Environmental Reporter (Vol. 28, No. 14, Pg. 633-634) appeared on my desk today. The title of the article is "Pollution Prevention Makes Big Strides, But Overall Effect Questionable, EPA Says". Anyone else see this article? Your thoughts? Margaret Nover From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 15:14:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA15961 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:14:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 11-Sep-1997 15:27:22 -0400; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <0C98166401501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Re: P2 lesson From: sobin@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Sobin, Rodney) Date: 11 Sep 97 15:31:42 EDT In-Reply-To: <0198166401501C76@-SMF-> References: <0198166402501C76@-SMF-> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Mark, This doesn't exactly answer your request but you might check the "kids" and "students & teachers" pages on EPA's web site (www.epa.gov). Some of the state envtal agencies have similar on-line educational resources; for instance Pennsylvania DEP has its own resource plus links to other organizations (http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/enved/school_zone.html). The World Resources Institute put out an Environmental Almanac which might have data of interest to you (www.wri.org or 202-638-6300). An outfit at http://www.cais.net/publish/innovate.htm has some interesting envtal education exercises. I hope this is helpful. Rod Sobin Concurrent Technologies Corporation sobin@ctc.com From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 15:16:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA16099 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:25:22 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:24:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: FWD: Returned mail: User unknown To: P2TECH@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_7ZK/Pzw+fHCQvrVCEdnzLA]" Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:25:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Ua-Content-Id: D134ZXADM1W4W X400-Mts-Identifier: [;22525111907991/895414@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech --Boundary_[ID_7ZK/Pzw+fHCQvrVCEdnzLA] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --Boundary_[ID_7ZK/Pzw+fHCQvrVCEdnzLA] Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:54:10 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: User unknown To: "ILLIG.RICHARD" Message-id: <9709111854.AA16593@gatekeeper.pader.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_pgAZ+q0L9AxuxEJiBqpHow]" Delivery-date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:00 EST Posting-date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:44 EST Importance: normal A1-type: MAIL --Boundary_[ID_pgAZ+q0L9AxuxEJiBqpHow] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While talking to cedar.cic.net: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 ... User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by gatekeeper.pader.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA16591; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:54:10 -0400 Received: from mr.pader.gov by PADER.GOV (PMDF V5.1-7 #21974) id <01INIQO7N4NK8Y669P@PADER.GOV> for P2RECH@GREAT-LAKES.NET; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:03 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:51:58 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:51:58 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:38:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Lime By-Product Reuse To: P2RECH@GREAT-LAKES.NET Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:51:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D121ZXADL8Q1F X400-Mts-Identifier: [;85154111907991/895302@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 All, 1) Waste water treatment/ Sewage treatment systems 2) Mine reclamation projects (or at least control of acid-mine drainage) 3) Concrete production, maybe 4) Tannery de-hairing operations, maybe 5) I'd suggest some other food processing operations (removal of corn "shells" or other vegetable skins, etc. but that seems to be where you're coming from) * Any use will depend on other constituents that may be present and ability to alter pH. You gave no indication of the quality of the material. * Regulatory justification may be needed to allow the use of the waste in another operation. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us --Boundary_[ID_pgAZ+q0L9AxuxEJiBqpHow] Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:47 EST MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal A1-type: DOCUMENT RFC-822-headers: Received: from gatekeeper.pader.gov by PADER.GOV (PMDF V5.1-7 #21974) with SMTP id <01INIQOZV2QA8Y6KY6@PADER.GOV> for ILLIG.RICHARD@a1.pader.gov; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:40 EST Received: by gatekeeper.pader.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA16593; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:54:10 -0400 --Boundary_[ID_pgAZ+q0L9AxuxEJiBqpHow]-- --Boundary_[ID_7ZK/Pzw+fHCQvrVCEdnzLA]-- From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 15:16:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA16142 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:25:50 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:22:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: FWD: Returned mail: User unknown To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_U1d3+FFHjqpkHuyt1LfgqQ]" Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:25:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Ua-Content-Id: D169ZXADM1W58 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;05525111907991/895416@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech --Boundary_[ID_U1d3+FFHjqpkHuyt1LfgqQ] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII SEE MESSAGE ATTACHED BELOW RE: REUSE OF LIME BY-PRODUCTS --Boundary_[ID_U1d3+FFHjqpkHuyt1LfgqQ] Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:54:10 EST From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: User unknown To: "ILLIG.RICHARD" Message-id: <9709111854.AA16593@gatekeeper.pader.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_xGtrbrm69ZJ4azBAYGIGCQ]" Delivery-date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:00 EST Posting-date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:44 EST Importance: normal A1-type: MAIL --Boundary_[ID_xGtrbrm69ZJ4azBAYGIGCQ] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While talking to cedar.cic.net: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 ... User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by gatekeeper.pader.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA16591; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:54:10 -0400 Received: from mr.pader.gov by PADER.GOV (PMDF V5.1-7 #21974) id <01INIQO7N4NK8Y669P@PADER.GOV> for P2RECH@GREAT-LAKES.NET; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:03 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:51:58 -0500 (EST) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:51:58 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:38:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Lime By-Product Reuse To: P2RECH@GREAT-LAKES.NET Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:51:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D121ZXADL8Q1F X400-Mts-Identifier: [;85154111907991/895302@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 All, 1) Waste water treatment/ Sewage treatment systems 2) Mine reclamation projects (or at least control of acid-mine drainage) 3) Concrete production, maybe 4) Tannery de-hairing operations, maybe 5) I'd suggest some other food processing operations (removal of corn "shells" or other vegetable skins, etc. but that seems to be where you're coming from) * Any use will depend on other constituents that may be present and ability to alter pH. You gave no indication of the quality of the material. * Regulatory justification may be needed to allow the use of the waste in another operation. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us --Boundary_[ID_xGtrbrm69ZJ4azBAYGIGCQ] Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:47 EST MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Importance: normal A1-type: DOCUMENT RFC-822-headers: Received: from gatekeeper.pader.gov by PADER.GOV (PMDF V5.1-7 #21974) with SMTP id <01INIQOZV2QA8Y6KY6@PADER.GOV> for ILLIG.RICHARD@a1.pader.gov; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:52:40 EST Received: by gatekeeper.pader.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA16593; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:54:10 -0400 --Boundary_[ID_xGtrbrm69ZJ4azBAYGIGCQ]-- --Boundary_[ID_U1d3+FFHjqpkHuyt1LfgqQ]-- From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 17:01:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA22276 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970911211205.00a58754@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:12:05 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: List Manager Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Appoved: p2net From: Kelly Lacher To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: P2 lesson Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:27:29 -0400 Mark, Check out the site at http://www.earthvision.net/. There is a sub-section titled "Education" which contains lots of articles on Environmental Education. Hope this helps! Kelly Lacher Global Environment & Technology Foundation 7010 Little River Turnpike Annandale, VA 22003 (703) 750-6401 > -----Original Message----- > From: WasteMin@aol.com [SMTP:WasteMin@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 12:26 PM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: P2 lesson > > I have just started working on a lesson for middle school kids and > need some > information. I am looking for some data that quantifies the > environmental > impact of a typical American lifestyle in terms kids can understand. > For > example, "It takes an average of four acres of farmland to feed an > average > American family of four for a year" or "For every mile travelled by an > American car, $40 tax dollars are spent maintaining roads and > bridges." (Note > that these "facts" are EXAMPLES of the type of information I want and > are not > true statistics!) > > Has anyone seen a compendium of info like this? > > Thanks. > > Mark Boylan > WASTREN, Inc. > 22 Executive Park Court > Germantown MD 20875 > 301/540-5403 > wastemin@aol.com > > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 17:02:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA22359 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709112102.RAA22359@cedar.cic.net> From: Ted W Moss Subject: Re: P2 lesson To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have had success in using a teaching tool with jr high students that you may want to consider. To ensure all students can participate I picked a process (Making Coffee) that everyone can relate to...yet the analytical process translates well to developing P2 solutions on the shop floor. I tell the students that I own a Coffee Shop that serves coffee in disposal cups. My shop also uses disposable sugar and cream packages, and disposable stirrers. My shop batches the coffee, and leaves the pot on the burner after brewing. I give them electrical cost data, cost for individual serving packets versus single point of use containers for sugar, cream, and water cost. I have the students identify all the inputs and outputs to the process. Then, I ask them to brainstorm ways to reduce waste and expenses. The solution they develop is: Store the brewed coffee in a thermal carafe Turn the coffeemaker off after the brewing cycle Replace the disposable items with multiple use items. Please feel free to Email me if you would like additional details on exercise. I have used this tool with 2 classes very successfully Regards, Ted Moss Eli Lilly and Company From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 17:08:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA22610 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709112108.RAA22610@cedar.cic.net> From: robert_michalowicz@bovar.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re[2]: Paint Solids Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I would like to learn more about this paint recovery process for paint solids. Can you provide more details? Rob Michalowicz BOVAR Environmental robert_michalowicz@bovar.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Paint Solids Author: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech at INTERNET Date: 9/10/97 9:53 AM Norma, Caterpillar has developed a recovery process for paint solids of this type and there are some other companies that have the capability to do so. I am out of my office today but I can get the people to contact and email it to you tomorrow if you wish. Please send an email directly to me so that I can get your return email address. Jack At 02:21 PM 9/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >A company I'm working with is looking for markets/reuse options for >its paint solids. The company is a large truck manufacturer that >operates a paint spray booth with a waterwash collection system. The >overspray from the urethane-based paints is collected in the water >wash and coagulated by a chemical additive. The overspray is flocced >to the water surface and skimmed off the water into dewatering bags. >Approximately 600 lbs of paint waste are generated every 2-3 days. > >If anyone had any ideas, please respond. I appreciate your >assistance. > >Thanks > >Norma Murphy >Norma Murphy >Division of Pollution Prevention >P.O. Box 29569 >Raleigh, NC 27626 >919-715-6513 > > > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 17:10:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA22676 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709112110.RAA22676@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: QS 9000 & Polish Speaking From: thoms@ndec-fs1.ctc.com (Thoms, John) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech In need of English/Polish Speaking QS 9000 Auditor for year and one half assignment in Poland assisting automobile industry parts supplier in attaining ISO certification. Please fax resume to: John R. Thoms Concurrent Technologies Corporation 1450 Scalp Avenue Johnstown Pa 15904 Tel 814-269-6805 fax 814-269-2798 e-mail thoms@ctc.corp.com From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 19:59:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA28807 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:59:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Pjsco@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:09:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970911200733_334309056@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Possible Uses for Industrial Ceramic Waste Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hello everyone, I was recently asked to inquire if anyone knows of possible uses for waste industrial ceramic. The material is second only to diamond dust in hardness and is currently landfilled since no one seems to be able to crush the jagged pieces tossed out without destroying crushing equipment. If incorporated as is within products or material such as road base, tires, etc. will be cut to shreds. Any ideas? Anyone who can find a use for it will have all they want for free. Paul Saunders pjsco@aol.com From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 11 19:59:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA28814 for p2tech-out; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 19:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 20:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709120011.UAA21154@mailrelay.tiac.net> X-Sender: jcantin@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jeff Cantin Subject: Re: P2 effect questionable Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Is this based on the findings of the P2 progress report for '97 that EPA just issued? I just requested a copy through PPIC so have not seen it yet. --Jeff Cantin At 12:08 PM 9/11/97 -0700, you wrote: >A copy of an article from the Bureau of National Affairs journal called >the Environmental Reporter (Vol. 28, No. 14, Pg. 633-634) appeared on my >desk today. The title of the article is "Pollution Prevention Makes Big >Strides, But Overall Effect Questionable, EPA Says". Anyone else see >this article? Your thoughts? > >Margaret Nover > > From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 07:19:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA16333 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 07:19:07 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 12 Sep 1997 07:23:17 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 12 Sep 1997 07:23:17 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 00A0A34192625053-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 00A0A34192625053 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"00A0A34192625053*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 12 Sep 1997 07:23:17 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: P2Tech (Return requested) Subject: HyperSolv MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear P2Tech, Anybody know any companies that are using HyperSolv? It is designed to be a "drop-in" replacement for 1,1,1-Trichloroethane (Methyl chloroform). I have a company that is considering making the switch from 1,1,1 to this and they would like to talk to a company that has used HyperSolv. Any information would be appreciated, and you or the company can contact me in any way that is convenient to you. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address (2nd attempt) From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 09:27:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA20876 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:36:06 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:07:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Uses for Ceramic Waste To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:36:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D130ZXAEDPZO4 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;60639021907991/896624@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One & All, There must be methods for working big pieces of ceramic into smaller more usable sizes. I hear ceramic grinding belts are making excellent replacements for sanding belts in wood finishing operations. Ceramic powders are routinely used in the manufacturing of electrical components. All this ceramic grit and powder must be coming from somewhere. I've often wondered if ceramic grit might be a potential replacement for core and/or molding sand used in foundry operations, or possibly employed as a "reusable filler" to minimize the use of sand. There is plenty of the material around (as Paul Saunders mentioned). The initial investiment may be high both for raw materials and the re-engineering of molds. But, if the usable life of ceramic even doubled that of sand (hopefully a minimal improvement) a large amount of waste sand and chemical binders, and the associated waste management costs, might be avoided. I would be greatly interested in hearing more comments in this area. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 09:51:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA22002 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <341949C7.70C6@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 06:55:19 -0700 From: Margaret Reich Nover Organization: Portland's Pollution Prevention Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 effect questionable References: <199709120011.UAA21154@mailrelay.tiac.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Jeff Cantin wrote: > > Is this based on the findings of the P2 progress report for '97 that EPA > just issued? I just requested a copy through PPIC so have not seen it yet. > > --Jeff Cantin > > At 12:08 PM 9/11/97 -0700, you wrote: > >A copy of an article from the Bureau of National Affairs journal called > >the Environmental Reporter (Vol. 28, No. 14, Pg. 633-634) appeared on my > >desk today. The title of the article is "Pollution Prevention Makes Big > >Strides, But Overall Effect Questionable, EPA Says". Anyone else see > >this article? Your thoughts? > > > >Margaret Nover > > > >Yes, the article does reference the Pollution Prevention 1997: A National Progress Report. I have a copy of the report, but did not arrive at the same conclusions as the author in the Environmental Reporter. Margaret Nover From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 12:08:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA29061 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:07:59 -0500 From: Susan Roothaan To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: HyperSolv -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Peter- Do you have more information on HyperSolv (Vendor name, phone number), chemical composition, and for what types of applications of 1-1-1-Trichlorethane it is designed to replace? I'm also looking for a substitute for this (used in a Silicone dispersion). Thanks, Susan Roothaan Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission, MC-112 Office of Pollution Prevention and Recycling PO Box 13087 Austin, Texas 78711-3087 phone: (512) 239-3186 fax: (512) 239-3165 e-mail: sroothaa@tnrcc.state.tx.us Dear P2Tech, Anybody know any companies that are using HyperSolv? It is designed to be a "drop-in" replacement for 1,1,1-Trichloroethane (Methyl chloroform). I have a company that is considering making the switch from 1,1,1 to this and they would like to talk to a company that has used HyperSolv. Any information would be appreciated, and you or the company can contact me in any way that is convenient to you. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 12:40:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA01160 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:48:32 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:36:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Reuse of Rubber To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:48:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D128ZXAEIAPFV X400-Mts-Identifier: [;23842121907991/897305@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One & All, A short time back a gentleman inquired about the reuse of rubber waste...I think from triming rubber hoses. Based on mesh size, quality and type, the following facility purchases crumb rubber for processing into a variety of products. I think their processing operation uses 200 mesh size so waste rubber would have to be capable of meeting that spec. As of last report, they process the equivalent of 3.5 million tires per year. Composite Particles 2330 26 Street SW Allentown, PA 18102 Dr. Bernard Bauman 610-791-9900 Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 14:53:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA08449 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3419AF0C.2FCE@max.state.ia.us> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:07:24 -0700 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Vendor database References: <1.5.4.32.19970911174105.0068caa4@unlvm.unl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have been working on a Vendor database for the last 8 months. Ours is a real simple structure in Paradox. I would be happy to share categories or companies we have inputed thus far. Cherri Bates IDNR 515-281-8499 cbates@max.state.ia.us Jan Hygnstrom wrote: > > I've been asked to post the following request. Please reply to Nate at > <00223257@bigred.unl.edu> Thanks! > > I'm compiling a vendor database for pollution prevention equipment and > materials. To help get started, I am looking for information from other > people who have created databases. What software do you use, what database > fields have you found valuable, and how did you get vendor information, > other than through phone calls? I'd also appreciate help in finding vendors > to include, especially those that are found in or service Nebraska and > neighboring states. > > Your help is greatly appreciated. > > Nate Foged > University of Nebraska-Lincoln > 00223257@bigred.unl.edu From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 15:01:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA08850 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:59:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "RUDY MOEHRBACH" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:09:40 EST Subject: Re: Reuse of Rubber X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.41) Message-ID: <3AE016A0DF5@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 12:36:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Reuse of Rubber To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Reply-to: p2tech@great-lakes.net This is a copy of your message complete. It is blank. This is not the first time I have seen this from you. Cannot tell if the problem is at your end or at mine. I am recieving many complete messages from others. Any ideas? Rudy Moehrbach Waste Reduction Resource Center P.O.Box 29569 Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 15:43:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA11059 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970912145821.007313d4@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 14:58:21 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Janet Clark Subject: Re: P2 lesson In-Reply-To: <970910122306_437101538@emout10.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 12:25 PM 9/10/97 -0400, you wrote: >I have just started working on a lesson for middle school kids and need some >information. I am looking for some data that quantifies the environmental >impact of a typical American lifestyle in terms kids can understand. For >example, "It takes an average of four acres of farmland to feed an average >American family of four for a year" or "For every mile travelled by an >American car, $40 tax dollars are spent maintaining roads and bridges." (Note >that these "facts" are EXAMPLES of the type of information I want and are not >true statistics!) > >Has anyone seen a compendium of info like this? > >Thanks. > >Mark Boylan >WASTREN, Inc. >22 Executive Park Court >Germantown MD 20875 >301/540-5403 >wastemin@aol.com > > > > Hi Mark, According to the book "Our Ecological Footprint" by Mathis Wackernagel and William Rees (New Society Publishers of Philadelphia) the ecological footprint of commuting by car is 1,530 square meters of land per commuter. The calculation incorporates the load on the land of resource consumption and waste assimulation for gas consumption, car manufacture, and road maintenance and assumes a 10 kilometer round trip commute. For a bike commuter, the number is 122 square meters. A North American lifestyle has a footprint of 5.1 hectares per person, and if everyone in the world used that much of earth's resources we would need three planet earths. Sorry that I have not done the conversion for acres, but you get the picture. The book is easy to read and provides a very useful tool for communicating impact. When you look at the approach, it will make sense. By the way, waste assimulation calculations are only for carbon dioxide, not toxics! These estimates may be really off on the size of the impact! Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 978-934-3346 Fax 978-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 16:00:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA11902 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709122006.PAA31765@mailhub.iastate.edu> X-Sender: rprusk@pop-2.iastate.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 15:06:46 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Richard Rusk Subject: Re: Vendor database Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech There is a vendor database on the web at http://es.inel.gov/cgi-bin/vendinfo.pl Also, I just got a letter in the mail for a free magazine named Pollution Prevention Equipment or something similar. I haven't received it yet but other P2Tech members may be able to comment on its value. Dick Rusk At 02:07 PM 9/12/97 -0700, you wrote: >I have been working on a Vendor database for the last 8 months. Ours is >a real simple structure in Paradox. I would be happy to share >categories or companies we have inputed thus far. > >Cherri Bates >IDNR >515-281-8499 >cbates@max.state.ia.us > > >Jan Hygnstrom wrote: >> >> I've been asked to post the following request. Please reply to Nate at >> <00223257@bigred.unl.edu> Thanks! >> >> I'm compiling a vendor database for pollution prevention equipment and >> materials. To help get started, I am looking for information from other >> people who have created databases. What software do you use, what database >> fields have you found valuable, and how did you get vendor information, >> other than through phone calls? I'd also appreciate help in finding vendors >> to include, especially those that are found in or service Nebraska and >> neighboring states. >> >> Your help is greatly appreciated. >> >> Nate Foged >> University of Nebraska-Lincoln >> 00223257@bigred.unl.edu > ------------------------------------------ Richard Rusk, P.E. Iowa State University 409 Marston Hall Ames, IA 50011-2153 rprusk@iastate.edu phone 515-294-1397, fax 294-1272 ------------------------------------------ From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 12 19:52:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA21673 for p2tech-out; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:49:09 -0400 (EDT) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <3419D7A2.2FE1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:00:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Vendor database References: <199709122006.PAA31765@mailhub.iastate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard Rusk wrote: > > There is a vendor database on the web at > > http://es.inel.gov/cgi-bin/vendinfo.pl > > Also, I just got a letter in the mail for a free magazine named Pollution > Prevention Equipment or something similar. I haven't received it yet but > other P2Tech members may be able to comment on its value. > I submitted my website and information to Envirosense many months ago, and have never seen it on the site. I even gave them a link from my site. If you check out how long it's been since they updated their site (Jan 9, 1997), and their vendor database (Jan 12, 1996!!!!!), you might get a sense of how little the webmasters are maintaining the data. I sent an email asking them when they would update everything, and when I get an answer, I'll share it with the group. Anyone know why they are ignoring their website? Gerard Forgnone Plastic Oil Products g-whiz@ix.netcom.com -- BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz G-Whiz Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 BOB product review: http://www.atving.com/editor/techtips/bob.htm BOB Testimonials: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277/testim.htm From p2tech-owner Sat Sep 13 14:05:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA21276 for p2tech-out; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:00:40 -0400 (EDT) From: NorthTec@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 14:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970913141034_1095425701@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hypersolv is the trade name (for Great Lakes Chemical Co.) for normal propyl bromide [n-PB] — a solvent which has essentially the same distillation and solvent properties as does 1,1,1 Trichloroethane. Albemarle Corporation produces the same product under the trade name Abzol. This new choice in cleaning solvents allows you to avoid the expense of compliance with NESHAP. The EPA has communicated that they intend to propose SNAP approval of n-PB. This will be done within the next few months. There will be two conditions of use: (1) 100 ppm exposure limit, and (2) protective equipment required to avoid skin contact. Two US manufacturers are Great Lakes Chemical (West Lafayette, IN) and Albemarle Chemical (Baton Rouge, LA). Contact numbers are as follows: Great Lakes Chemical Co (GLCC): (317) 497-6100 Albemarle Corp: (504) 388-7040 Janice Baker NorthTec PO Box 127 Bigfork, MN 56628 NorthTec@aol.com From p2tech-owner Sat Sep 13 16:51:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA26453 for p2tech-out; Sat, 13 Sep 1997 16:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: rosselot@netcom.com (Kirsten Rosselot) Message-Id: <199709132058.NAA26612@netcom23.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Vendor database To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 13:58:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3419D7A2.2FE1@ix.netcom.com> from "g-whiz@ix.netcom.com" at Sep 12, 97 05:00:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech > > Richard Rusk wrote: > > > > There is a vendor database on the web at > > > > http://es.inel.gov/cgi-bin/vendinfo.pl > > > > Also, I just got a letter in the mail for a free magazine named Pollution > > Prevention Equipment or something similar. I haven't received it yet but > > other P2Tech members may be able to comment on its value. > > > > I submitted my website and information to Envirosense many months ago, > and have never seen it on the site. I even gave them a link from my > site. > > If you check out how long it's been since they updated their site (Jan > 9, 1997), and their vendor database (Jan 12, 1996!!!!!), you might get a > sense of how little the webmasters are maintaining the data. > > I sent an email asking them when they would update everything, and when > I get an answer, I'll share it with the group. > > Anyone know why they are ignoring their website? > > Gerard Forgnone > Plastic Oil Products > g-whiz@ix.netcom.com > -- > BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz > G-Whiz Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277 > BOB product review: http://www.atving.com/editor/techtips/bob.htm > BOB Testimonials: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/4277/testim.htm > Tradition. =============================== Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E. Process Profiles P.O. Box 8264 Calabasas, CA 91372-8264 U.S.A. 1-818-878-0454 rosselot@netcom.com =============================== From p2tech-owner Sun Sep 14 07:15:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA21470 for p2tech-out; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 07:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <34195BFB.30A4@glvt.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 17:12:59 +0200 From: hans schnitzer Organization: tu-graz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 lesson References: <199709112102.RAA22359@cedar.cic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Ted W Moss wrote: > > I have had success in using a teaching tool with jr high students that you may > want to > consider. To ensure all students can participate I picked a process (Making > Coffee) > that everyone can relate to...yet the analytical process translates well to > developing > P2 solutions on the shop floor. I tell the students that I own a Coffee Shop > that serves > coffee in disposal cups. My shop also uses disposable sugar and cream > packages, > and disposable stirrers. My shop batches the coffee, and leaves the pot on > the burner > after brewing. I give them electrical cost data, cost for individual serving > packets versus > single point of use containers for sugar, cream, and water cost. > > I have the students identify all the inputs and outputs to the process. Then, > I ask them > to brainstorm ways to reduce waste and expenses. > > The solution they develop is: > Store the brewed coffee in a thermal carafe > Turn the coffeemaker off after the brewing cycle > Replace the disposable items with multiple use items. > > Please feel free to Email me if you would like additional details on exercise. > I have > used this tool with 2 classes very successfully > > Regards, > > Ted Moss > Eli Lilly and Company We aslo make the coffee in the lessons. Have a look at: How coffee-making can help one to understand cleaner production in: J. Cleaner production, Vol.4 No 3-4, pp 213-217 Hans Schnitzer From p2tech-owner Sun Sep 14 15:19:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA04707 for p2tech-out; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 15:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <341C38D9.79B@glvt.tu-graz.ac.at> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 21:19:53 +0200 From: hans schnitzer Organization: tu-graz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Reuse of Rubber References: <3AE016A0DF5@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech RUDY MOEHRBACH wrote: > > This is a copy of your message complete. It is blank. This is not > the first time I have seen this from you. Cannot tell if the problem is at > your end or at mine. I am recieving many complete messages from > others. Any ideas? > > Rudy Moehrbach > Waste Reduction Resource Center > P.O.Box 29569 > Raleigh, NC 27626-9569,Tel 800-476-8686,FX 919-715-1612 > Homepage http://owr.ehnr.state.nc.us/wrrc1.htm Usually, if I receive blank messages, I go to OPTIONS, SHOW HEADERS and select ALL. Then you should find the message in the header. Why it is there, I don't know?!?! Hans Schnitzer From p2tech-owner Sun Sep 14 15:38:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA05350 for p2tech-out; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 15:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 15:48:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Bilkovich To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply In-Reply-To: <970913141034_1095425701@emout16.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Two questions:1)What is the advantage of changing frying pans from an ozone-depleter to a low molecular weight alkyl bromide?(remember DBCP) 2) What is the flash point of n-propyl bromide? Bill Bilkovich, EQC 3651 Cherry Bluff Ln Tallahassee, Fl 32312-1001 Fax 850-906-9816 Voice 850-894-2780 bilko@vistech.net On Sat, 13 Sep 1997 NorthTec@aol.com wrote: > Hypersolv is the trade name (for Great Lakes Chemical Co.) for normal pro= pyl > bromide [n-PB] =97 a solvent which has essentially the same distillation = and > solvent properties as does 1,1,1 Trichloroethane. Albemarle Corporation > produces the same product under the trade name Abzol. This new choice in > cleaning solvents allows you to avoid the > expense of compliance with NESHAP.=20 >=20 > The EPA has communicated that they intend to propose SNAP approval of n-P= B. > This will be done within the next few months. There will be two conditi= ons > of use: (1) 100 ppm exposure limit, > and (2) protective equipment required to avoid skin contact. =20 >=20 > Two US manufacturers are Great Lakes Chemical (West Lafayette, IN) and > Albemarle Chemical (Baton Rouge, LA). Contact numbers are as follows: >=20 > Great Lakes Chemical Co (GLCC): (317) 497-6100 > Albemarle Corp: (504) 388-7040 >=20 >=20 > Janice Baker > NorthTec > PO Box 127 > Bigfork, MN 56628 > NorthTec@aol.com >=20 From p2tech-owner Sun Sep 14 23:57:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id XAA20115 for p2tech-out; Sun, 14 Sep 1997 23:56:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sunil Herat" Organization: Faculty of Environmental Sciences To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 14:19:26 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Pollution Prevention in Sugar Industry X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54 preview) Message-ID: Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I am currently undertaking a research project on pollution prevention opportunities for sugar milling industry. Could you please advice me on any case studies /literature/ contacts on this. Thank you in advance Regards Dr Sunil Herat Lecturer School of Environmental Engineering Griffith University Nathan Campus Qld 4111 Australia Ph: +61 7 3875 6682 Fax: +61 7 3875 7459 Email: S.Herat@ens.gu.edu.au http://www.ens.gu.edu.au/ From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 07:24:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA01796 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 07:24:31 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 15 Sep 1997 07:31:28 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 15 Sep 1997 07:31:28 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 05710341D1C9012E-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 05710341D1C9012E Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: (1)(0)(10021)(7)(1)(0)(6)(1), (1)(0)(10021)(7)(1)(0)(6)(6), (1)(0)(10021)(7)(1)(0)(6)(100) Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"05710341D1C9012E*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 15 Sep 1997 07:31:28 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested), "NorthTec@aol.com" (Return requested) cc: "Moulton, Peter T" (Return requested) Subject: Re: RE:HyperSolv -Reply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Janice, thanks for the information on the two manufacturers. >The EPA has communicated that they intend to propose SNAP approval >of = = n-PB. By the way, what is meant by "SNAP approval". When I look up SNAP in my April 1994 edition (the latest?) of EPA's = "Terms of Environment: Glossary, Abbreviations, and Acronyms" (50 pages) = = it gives me "Significant Noncompliance Action Program" (p. 49, column 2).= = Somehow this does not sound quite right, but I could be wrong. When it = = comes to EPA abbreviations I am not an SME (Subject Matter Expert) (p. = 49, col. 2). It is outside my SOW (Scope of Work) (p. 49, col 2). ---------- From: NorthTec@aol.com[SMTP:NorthTec@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 13, 1997 2:33 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply Hypersolv is the trade name (for Great Lakes Chemical Co.) for normal = propyl bromide [n-PB] =F9 a solvent which has essentially the same distillation = = and solvent properties as does 1,1,1 Trichloroethane. Albemarle Corporation produces the same product under the trade name Abzol. This new choice in= cleaning solvents allows you to avoid the expense of compliance with NESHAP. The EPA has communicated that they intend to propose SNAP approval of = n-PB. This will be done within the next few months. There will be two = conditions of use: (1) 100 ppm exposure limit, and (2) protective equipment required to avoid skin contact. Two US manufacturers are Great Lakes Chemical (West Lafayette, IN) and Albemarle Chemical (Baton Rouge, LA). Contact numbers are as follows: Great Lakes Chemical Co (GLCC): (317) 497-6100 Albemarle Corp: (504) 388-7040 Janice Baker NorthTec PO Box 127 Bigfork, MN 56628 NorthTec@aol.com From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 08:35:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA04328 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:35:12 -0400 (EDT) From: NorthTec@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970915084458_368405113@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech SNAP, in this context stands for "Significant New Alternatives Program", or thereabouts. It refers to products that are recognized by the EPA as being alternative choices to ozone depleters, that do not pose a new threat to the ozone layer. From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 08:38:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA04507 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:38:34 -0400 (EDT) From: NorthTec@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970915084839_1041573113@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I assume you are thinking of carcinogenicity or toxicity, of dibromo cyclopentane [BDCP]. And that you are concerned that one would be trading ozone depletion for carcinogenicity / toxicity. The advantage here is that there is no tradeoff: you avoid ozone depletion potential / carcinogenicity / toxicity, and you get familar performance. The TLV is not a super high number as we enjoyed with some CFC's, but it is within a reasonable range as solvents go, and one that we are generally accustomed to managing. From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 08:45:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA04838 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D01A9C1B7@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Franke, Deborah L." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: ADMIN: P2Tech Information and Updates Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:55:02 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Please discontinue my subscription for p2tech, nppr, and p2trainer until October 15, 1997. Thank you. Debbie Franke RTI 919-541-6826 dlf@rti.org From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 10:31:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA11194 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:30:49 -0400 (EDT) X400-Received: by mta MTAMaine1 in /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 15 Sep 1997 10:36:28 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; Relayed; 15 Sep 1997 10:36:28 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/; 05710341D47EC6F9-MTAMaine1] Content-Identifier: 05710341D47EC6F9 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <"05710341D47EC6F9*/c=us/admd= /prmd=Mainegovt/o=msmail/s=Moulton/g=Peter/i=T/"@MHS> Date: 15 Sep 1997 10:36:28 -0400 From: "Moulton, Peter T" To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" (Return requested), "(Kirsten Rosselot)" (Return requested) Subject: RE: Vendor database MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech >Tradition. Kirsten Rosselot, The strength of your wit is inversely proportional to its brevity. Peter T. Moulton Division of Technical Services, Bureau of Remediation State of Maine Department of Environmental Protection State House Station #17 Augusta, ME 04333 tel. 207-287-8161 Fax. 207-287-7826 Peter.T.Moulton@state.me.us case (upper or lower) does not matter on email address From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 10:58:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA12978 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:08:52 -0400 From: Albert Tieche To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 Lesson Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I have just started working on a lesson for middle school kids and need some >information. I am looking for some data that quantifies the environmental >impact of a typical American lifestyle in terms kids can understand. For >example, "It takes an average of four acres of farmland to feed an average >American family of four for a year" or "For every mile travelled by an >American car, $40 tax dollars are spent maintaining roads and bridges." (Note >that these "facts" are EXAMPLES of the type of information I want and are not >true statistics!) > >Has anyone seen a compendium of info like this? > >Thanks. > >Mark Boylan >WASTREN, Inc. >22 Executive Park Court >Germantown MD 20875 >301/540-5403 >wastemin@aol.com > > > A comment about the type of information you are looking for: We often hear facts about the environmental impact of various activities in which we Americans engage. These stats are interesting and thought provoking. Our consumption of material and energy per capita is truly very high. However, we rarely hear corresponding facts about the positive results of US economic activity, and there are many. For example, how much of the world's supply of food does the US produce? How much of the medicine and how many lives are saved by that medicine? How much of the total amount of the world's goods does the US produce? How many jobs in Mexico, China and other poor countries with high populations are dependant on exports to the consumer-oriented US? It would be prudent to give kids as accurate a picture as possible of the effects of our activities. The high level of use of material and energy in the US has both positive and negative effects. Albert U. Tieche tieche@utk.edu 615-532-8657 fax-615-532-4937 226 Capitol Blvd., Suite 606 Nashville, TN 37219-1804 From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 11:39:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA15858 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 11:49:32 -0400 From: SUSAN WESTENBARGER To: newmoa@aol.com, nppr@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net, jackiem@hawaii.edu, acxmv@montana.edu, gary_hunt@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us, vic_young@owr.ehnr.state.nc.us, msten@pprc.org, isao_kobashi@qmgate.pln.CO.Santa-Clara.CA.US, ermd@tifton.cpes.peachnet.edu, ryoder@unomaha.edu, bob@utep.edu, conrad@utep.edu, jpeden@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu Cc: ANDERSON.BETH@epamail.epa.gov Subject: EPA's New Pollution Prevention Home Page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ANNOUNCING EPA'S NEW POLLUTION PREVENTION HOME PAGE Just in time for National Pollution Prevention Week: The reorganized and redesigned Pollution Prevention Home Page from EPA's Office of Pollution Prevention and Toxics is accessible at http://www.epa.gov/opptintr/p2home/ This site contains links to many valuable EPA programs, projects and publications on Pollution Prevention, as well as links to P2 organizations outside EPA. Susan Westenbarger (GCI) PPIC Librarian 202-260-1758 From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 15:31:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA29861 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970915154441.00b6aa00@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:44:41 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Janet Clark Subject: Re: P2 Lesson In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 10:08 AM 9/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >I have just started working on a lesson for middle school kids >and need some >>information. I am looking for some data that quantifies the >environmental >>impact of a typical American lifestyle in terms kids can >understand. For >>example, "It takes an average of four acres of farmland to >feed an average >>American family of four for a year" or "For every mile >travelled by an >>American car, $40 tax dollars are spent maintaining roads >and bridges." (Note >>that these "facts" are EXAMPLES of the type of information >I want and are not >>true statistics!) >> >>Has anyone seen a compendium of info like this? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Mark Boylan >>WASTREN, Inc. >>22 Executive Park Court >>Germantown MD 20875 >>301/540-5403 >>wastemin@aol.com >> >> >> > >A comment about the type of information you are looking for: >We often hear facts about the environmental impact of >various activities in which we Americans engage. These stats >are interesting and thought provoking. Our consumption of >material and energy per capita is truly very high. However, we >rarely hear corresponding facts about the positive results of >US economic activity, and there are many. >For example, how much of the world's supply of food does >the US produce? How much of the medicine and how many >lives are saved by that medicine? How much of the total >amount of the world's goods does the US produce? How >many jobs in Mexico, China and other poor countries with >high populations are dependant on exports to the >consumer-oriented US? > >It would be prudent to give kids as accurate a picture as >possible of the effects of our activities. The high level of use >of material and energy in the US has both positive and >negative effects. > >Albert U. Tieche >tieche@utk.edu >615-532-8657 >fax-615-532-4937 >226 Capitol Blvd., Suite 606 >Nashville, TN 37219-1804 > > Hello Albert, A good comment, but do you mean to suggest that we could not have contributed these advancements to the world if we had not also been wasteful of natural resources? I just saw a movie about a large farm in North Dakota carefully transformed to variable crop organic technologies, and producing as much as ever under energy intrensive agriculture. Pollutuion Prevention isn't about scaling back on production or squashing innovation. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 978-934-3346 Fax 978-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 16:25:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA03287 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:29:46 -0500 From: Susan Roothaan To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Beyond the Absol and HyperSolv products, does anyone know of other 1-1-1-trichloroethane substitutes that fit the following: Need material with similar solvent properties (in particular evaporation rate). Want to exclude any substitutes that are (1) extremely flammable, (2) explosive, or (3) carcinogenic/mutagenic. We have searched the web extensively and are in the process of using various federal facility information clearinghouses. Other input/ideas would be appreciated. Susan Roothaan Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission, MC-112 Office of Pollution Prevention and Recycling PO Box 13087 Austin, Texas 78711-3087 phone: (512) 239-3186 fax: (512) 239-3165 e-mail: sroothaa@tnrcc.state.tx.us From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 15 16:55:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA05064 for p2tech-out; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970915165949.006ac25c@alize.ere.umontreal.ca> X-Sender: begind@alize.ere.umontreal.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:59:49 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Denis Begin Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply In-Reply-To: References: <970913141034_1095425701@emout16.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech >What is the flash point of n-propyl bromide? The flash point for 1-bromopropane (CAS No. 106-94-5) is 21 C (closed cup) (see : http://safety.hoseo.ac.kr/MSDS/B/1-BROMOPROPANE). The Environmental Chemicals Data Information Network gives a flash point of 25 C for the same liquid (see : http://ulisse.etoit.eudra.org/Ecdin/Ecdin.html). Janice Baker said earlier that ABZOL from Albemarle is also n-propyl bromide. But Albemarle state that their ABZOL cleaners have no flash point ! (see : http://www.albemarle.com/abzol.htm). Denis Begin, M.Sc. Agent de recherche / Research Assistant Universite de Montreal Med. du trav. et hyg. du milieu / Occup. Environ. Health C.P. 6128, Succ. Centre-ville Montreal, Quebec, Canada H3C 3J7 514-343-2170 514-343-2200 (fax) begind@ere.umontreal.ca From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 16 10:56:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA18179 for p2tech-out; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 10:54:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Sheehan.Eileen@epamail.epa.gov Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:04:17 -0700 Subject: Re: EPA's New Pollution Prevention Home Page To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <88256514.00529354.00@RTNTEMAIL.RTRT2144.EPA.GOV> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Susan: Thanks for your message about the P2 info on the EPA Homepage. I'd like to suggest you add one other addressee to your email distribution list. Our Region 9 P2 Listserve address is: p2@ucsd.edu So for any future info, please include us along with NEWMOA etc. Thanks again for taking the time to get the word out of this resource! Eileen Sheehan P2 Coordinator, EPA Region 9 (415) 744-2190 From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 16 11:16:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA19448 for p2tech-out; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:25:27 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:19:28 -0500 (EST) From: Deirdre Lehman Subject: P2 reg integration/water/NPDES permitting To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:25:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D121ZXAIGC18U X400-Mts-Identifier: [;72521161907991/903223@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi...I work in the Pennsylvania Office of Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance and am currently reviewing regulatory packages for P2 potentials. I was wondering if any other states have successfully integrated Pollution Prevention into state level regulations on 1. NPDES permitting 2. Wasteload Management 3. permitting of treatment works designs. I would be particularly interested in any use of incentives for doing pollution prevention rather than prescriptive approaches. Thanks, Dee Lehman PA OPPCA DEP PO BOX 8772 Harrisburg, PA 17105 717-772-5160 Lehman.Deirdre@a1.dep.state.pa.us (email) From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 16 13:05:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA26615 for p2tech-out; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:05:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Norton Date: Tue, 16 Sep 97 10:21:05 -0000 To: Subject: P2 Week 1997 Message-ID: <0551b02.199709161018.031EBCBA@bbs.macnexus.org> x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 x-sender: lgc p2@bbs.macnexus.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Pollution Prevention Week 1997 is here! Have you decided how you are going = to celebrate? For those of you who are holding activities in honor of P2 = Week - KUDOS to you! For those of you who are not able to coordinate a P2 Week event this year, there is still time to get involved. Try sharing the following basic P2 tips with your neighbors. =20 P2 IN THE HOME - Hot Tip for Saving Energy: =80 Turn your water heater down. Most households do not have a need for extremely hot water! Turning your water heater - usually the home=B9s = second largest energy user - down to 120 degrees can save a lot of energy, and = money too (up to $50 a year). P2 IN THE GARDEN - Helpful Gardening Technique: =80 Eliminate bothersome snails by turning your garden into a =B3beer = garden.=B2 This guaranteed snail catcher is easy as filling a shallow pan with beer, sinking it to ground level, and picking them out in the morning. P2 ON THE ROAD - P2 Car Tips: =80 Maintain your car. A car that isn=B9t properly tuned produces 10-15 = times more air pollution than a well-running vehicle. Have your car inspected regularly and repair all leaks promptly. Help maintain your car=B9s optimum fuel efficiency and put gas money back in your pocket by keeping your tires properly inflated. There are lots of ways for households to practice pollution, the above list is just a sample of the possibilities. To order the complete version of a free Household P2 factsheet, contact the Local Government Commission at . Remember - together, pollution prevention = works! From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 16 13:16:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA27439 for p2tech-out; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 16 Sep 1997 09:01:09 PDT From: "Kathryn Barwick" Subject: P2 effect questionable To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Comment: HW1 KBARWICK 09/16/97 09:01:44 HW1SMTP Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech *** Reply to note of 09/11/97 13:24 Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control I have not yet been able to acquire a copy of the BNA article. Could you give is a little more information? Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 16 15:19:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA05244 for p2tech-out; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <341EDC87.7D82@hevanet.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:22:47 -0700 From: Margaret Reich Nover Organization: Portland's Pollution Prevention Program X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: P2 effect questionable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Kathryn Barwick wrote: > > *** Reply to note of 09/11/97 13:24 > Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development > California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control > > I have not yet been able to acquire a copy of the BNA article. Could you give > is a little more information? > > Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 > OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 > P.O. Box 806 E-mail > Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOVKathryn, I have your fax phone from your message, and am transitting a copy to you. The transmission will be leaving my office around 12:45pm on Tuesday, Sept. 16th. Margaret Nover From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 16 17:32:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA13409 for p2tech-out; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: 16 Sep 1997 09:09:09 PDT From: "Kathryn Barwick" Subject: p2/energy To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, nppr@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great_lakes.net, nppr@great_lakes.net Comment: HW1 KBARWICK 09/16/97 09:09:23 HW1SSW1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV *** Forwarding note from KBARWICK--HW1 09/15/97 15:58 *** To: OAS --HW1SSW1 FROM: Kathryn Barwick Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Subject: p2/energy My colleague, Dave Weightman, would like to know about examples/case studies where facilities pursued source reduction opportunities, and received added value due to (measurable) energy savings. I will forward any responses to Dave, or you may e-mail him directly at . Thanks much. Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 16 22:15:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id WAA26565 for p2tech-out; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 22:15:06 -0400 (EDT) From: NorthTec@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 22:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970916222139_1391345306@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech In a message dated 97-09-16 00:27:20 EDT, you write: << >What is the flash point of n-propyl bromide? The flash point for 1-bromopropane (CAS No. 106-94-5) is 21 C (closed cup) (see : http://safety.hoseo.ac.kr/MSDS/B/1-BROMOPROPANE). The Environmental Chemicals Data Information Network gives a flash point of 25 C for the same liquid (see : http://ulisse.etoit.eudra.org/Ecdin/Ecdin.html). Janice Baker said earlier that ABZOL from Albemarle is also n-propyl bromide. But Albemarle state that their ABZOL cleaners have no flash point ! (see : http://www.albemarle.com/abzol.htm). >> First of all the values given (21 & 25 oC) are essentially the same, and both wrong. If you don't run the test right, you can make n-PB flash. That's why the 21 & 25 oC values exist from older literature. If the test is run right, the bromine atom suppressor quenches the natural tendency to flash of a C3 hydrocarbon (it fools the test). Three mechanisms speculated are: (1) the heavier halogen forms a barrier to oxygen reaching the liquid, so the mixture is too lean to support conbusion; (2) the bromine atom scarfs up electrons present in any combustion reaction with oxygen; and (3) if the initial test temperature chosen is too high, you miss the real combustion temperature [around -20 oC] and run the mixture too rich (and this happens frequently since few bother to use liquid Nitrogen to cool the mixture to this level and carefully babysit it as it warms). I believe that both Albemarle and GLCC contracted with independent labs to support their own no-flash data, and the labs validated their results = in the ASTM closed cup test, it doesn't flash. That means it isn't "hazardous," has no flash point, and "is not flammable." Second, you can make it catch fire. It will burn with oxygen in geometries different than those in the ASTM closed cup test. n-PB has a UEL & a LEL. The difference is the geometry of the test equipment. Third, the Internationl DOT says if a product does not have a UEL / LEL, it is not flammable; the US DOT says if a product does not have a flash point, it is not flammable. Albemarle chose the US DOT approach; I think that initially GLCC may have taken the International DOT approach, but have since changed to the US DOT approach since they do produce and sell chiefly domestically. Albemarle produces overseas, so I'm not sure how that shakes out for them corporately. The best one-sentence answer is that it is just like 1,1,1 TCA in its flash point behavior. Hope this helps! Janice Baker From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 04:02:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id EAA08240 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 04:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=E1tima_Lorenzo_Cimadevila?=" Subject: RV: labs toxic waste criteria Date: Wed, 17 Sep 97 09:59:55 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ---------- > Date: Martes 16 de Septiembre de 1997 14:16:07 > From: florenzo > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: labs toxic waste criteria > > Is there any EPA criteria to determine if a waste from a lab should be > considered as hazardous. Thanks/Fátima From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 07:21:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA14113 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 07:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 97 7:25:12 EDT From: Andrew Murphy STEAP-SHEW 5-8423 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: RV: labs toxic waste criteria Message-ID: <9709170725.aa20879@eagle.EAGLE.APG.ARMY.MIL> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Yes, the EPA does identify certain lab wastes as hazardous. In a nutshell, wastes that meet one of four characteristics (ignitability, corrosivity, toxicity, or reactivity) or can be found in specific EPA lists (F, K, P & U lists) are hazardous wastes. Regulatory guidance is found in 40 Code of Federal Regulations, part 261. A very useful publication written specifically to answer questions like yours is The American Chemical Society's Waste Management Manual for Laboratory Personnel. Contact the ACS at 1155 16th St NW, Washington D.C. 20036. Andy Murphy From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 09:50:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA21129 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709171348.JAA21129@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: hollash.joanne@a1.dep.state.pa.us (email) Subject: P2 Week activities For P2 Week activities, you are invited to visit and explore the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection's Website at: http://www.dep.state.pa.us To find out what is happening with P2 activities throughout Pennsylvania: CHOOSE Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance CHOOSE Current Events and Information CHOOSE Celebrate National Pollution Prevention Week, September 15-21, 1997 You will find a calendar of events during this week. Activities include pollution prevention/energy efficiency (P2E2) site visits to businesses in Pennsylvania, cost accounting, partnerships and a number of others. You may wish to review the contents of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection's Website regularly. There are many pollution prevention, links to pertinent websites, and other topics available for visitors to explore. Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Jo Anne Hollash PA DEP - OPPCA 717-787-0121 (v) 717-783-2703 (f) ______________________________________________________________________ From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 10:04:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA22094 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:54:14 -0700 From: m_pye@ccmail.pnl.gov (Miriam Pye) Subject: Re: p2/energy To: p2tech@great-lakes.net, nppr@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great_lakes.net, nppr@great_lakes.net, Kathryn Barwick Message-id: <0028A66A.4025@ccmail.pnl.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: cc:Mail note part Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech DOE's Office of Industrial Technologies (OIT) compiled "OIT Technology Partnerships" (1997), which has many such case studies. 1-800-DOE-EREC EPA Climate Wise also has a good "Case Study Compendium (Report 1)". 1-800-459-WISE ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: p2/energy Author: Kathryn Barwick at -SMTPLink Date: 9/16/97 9:09 AM Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV *** Forwarding note from KBARWICK--HW1 09/15/97 15:58 *** To: OAS --HW1SSW1 FROM: Kathryn Barwick Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Subject: p2/energy My colleague, Dave Weightman, would like to know about examples/case studies where facilities pursued source reduction opportunities, and received added value due to (measurable) energy savings. I will forward any responses to Dave, or you may e-mail him directly at . Thanks much. Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 10:12:37 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA22641 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D01AAEAF6@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: P2 reg integration/water/NPDES permitting Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:22:38 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Deirdre, A while back RTI did some work for OAQPS where we identified examples of P2 getting worked into different stages of state permits for air, water and stormwater from the pre-permit stages all the way through the enforcement stage. Maybe some of these examples will give you some ideas. The paper can be found at OAQPSs web site: http://www.epa.gov/ttncaaa1/title5/test_t5pg.html (unfortunately, there's not a direct link to the document, so you'll have to scroll down to find the document "State Experience Integrating P2 into Permits" -- its available in word perfect or PDF format). If that doesn't work, let me know and I'll email or snailmail you a copy. One area that we didn't focus on much was the issue of writing the regulations to ensure that P2 can be used for compliance (or even is outright encouraged). This would be a great area for collaboration between compliance offices and the rule-writers! Regards, Melissa Malkin Melissa Malkin Pollution Prevention Program Research Triangle Institute POB 12194. Research Triangle Park, N.C. 27709-2194 (ph) 919-541-6154 (fax) 919-541-7155 http://www.rti.org/units/ese/cea.html > ---------- > From: Deirdre Lehman[SMTP:LEHMAN.DEIRDRE@a1.pader.gov] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 12:19 PM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: P2 reg integration/water/NPDES permitting > > Hi...I work in the Pennsylvania Office of Pollution Prevention and > Compliance > Assistance and am currently reviewing regulatory packages for P2 > potentials. I > was wondering if any other states have successfully integrated > Pollution > Prevention into state level regulations on > > 1. NPDES permitting > 2. Wasteload Management > 3. permitting of treatment works designs. > > I would be particularly interested in any use of incentives for doing > pollution > prevention rather than prescriptive approaches. > > Thanks, Dee Lehman > PA OPPCA > DEP > PO BOX 8772 > Harrisburg, PA 17105 > 717-772-5160 > > Lehman.Deirdre@a1.dep.state.pa.us (email) > From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 10:24:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA23417 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709171424.KAA23417@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu (Jo Ann Hollash) Subject: P2 Week Activities Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech For P2 Week activities, you are invited to visit and explore the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection's Website at: http://www.dep.state.pa.us To find out what is happening with P2 activities throughout Pennsylvania: CHOOSE Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance CHOOSE Current Events and Information CHOOSE Celebrate National Pollution Prevention Week, September 15-21, 1997 You will find a calendar of events during this week. Activities include pollution prevention/energy efficiency (P2E2) site visits to businesses in Pennsylvania, cost accounting, partnerships and a number of others. You may wish to review the contents of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection's Website regularly. There are many pollution prevention, links to pertinent websites, and other topics available for visitors to explore. From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 10:49:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA24980 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:51:41 -0500 From: Martha Arosemena To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Cc: aneblett@tnrcc.state.tx.us, kferland@tnrcc.state.tx.us Subject: P2 Week web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Come visit the Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission's P2 Week website at http://home.tnrcc.state.tx.us/exec/oppr/ppplng/p2week.html Included is: A P2 Week proclamation by Governor Bush P2 Week events happening throughout the state Links to other sites commemorating P2 Week P2 activities you can do at home and work Happy P2 Week folks! Martha Arosemena TNRCC, Office of Pollution Prevention & Recycling, MC112 P.O. Box 13087 Austin, TX 78711-3087 phone: 512/239-3185 fax: 512/239-3165 From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 11:24:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA26937 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34201587.EA3@max.state.ia.us> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:38:15 -0700 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "p2tech@great-lakes.net" Subject: Starch Recovery in waste water Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech We have a client who would like to eliminate starch from their wastewater discharge. I need information on Starch Recovery, or conversion to sugar, or dehydration techniques, etc. I have searched Envirosences Technical Database, Water online, and DOE P2 clearinghouse and GNET. I found information about a liquid cyclone system. Anything else you could suggest? Please reply to: Cherri Bates Iowa DNR 515-281-8499 cbates@max.state.ia.us From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 12:38:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA01038 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCC34F.1BA28640@David.PPRC> From: cmontovino@pprc.org (Chris Montovino) To: "'Cherrie Bates'" , "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing Roundtable Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:50:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I am also researching a similar topic in preparation for a Food = Processing Roundtable being held in Idaho (early December). The Potato = Processing Industry has similar starch issues with their = process/wastewater. If anyone has experience with P2 issues within the = Food Processing Industry, it would be greatly appreciated. Chris Montovino Technical Director Pacific Northwest Pollution Prevention Resource Center 1326 Fifth Avenue, Suite 650=09 Seattle, WA 98101 Phone: 206-223-1151 FAX: 206-223-1165 email: cmontovino@pprc.org Web Site: http://www.pprc.org/pprc ---------- From: Cherrie Bates[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 10:38 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Starch Recovery in waste water We have a client who would like to eliminate starch from their wastewater discharge. I need information on Starch Recovery, or conversion to sugar, or dehydration techniques, etc. I have searched Envirosences Technical Database, Water online, and DOE P2 clearinghouse and GNET. I found information about a liquid cyclone system. Anything else you could suggest? Please reply to: Cherri Bates Iowa DNR 515-281-8499 cbates@max.state.ia.us From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 13:17:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA03363 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970917132743.0090e440@pop.cwru.edu> X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:27:43 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ralph Cooper Subject: Re: RV: labs toxic waste criteria In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 09:59 AM 9/17/97 PDT, you wrote: > >---------- >> Date: Martes 16 de Septiembre de 1997 14:16:07=20 >> From: florenzo >> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >> Subject: labs toxic waste criteria >>=20 >> Is there any EPA criteria to determine if a waste from a lab should be >> considered as hazardous. Thanks/F=E1tima > Lab wastes fall under the same criteria as other industrial and commercial wastes. The standards are in 40 CFR 261. There are some specific exemptions from specific parts of the regulations applicable to lab wastes, which have the effect of allowing SOME mixtures that include hazardous waste to be disposed to lab drains that go to wastewater treatment, particularly industrial wastewater treatment facilities. However, these exemptions are very narrow and restricted. If you have a copy of 40 CFR 261 and have read it a couple of times through, then call or e-mail me, I will be happy to walk you through the lab specific portions that relate to laboratories, exempting some of the waste streams from regulation. Other than the exemptions, all laboratory waste that would otherwise be hazardous waste are hazardous wastes, including mixtures of hazardous waste and other lab wastes. The exemptions allow some wash and rinse waters to be disposed to sewer under limited conditions. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. CWRU School of Law rec3@po.cwru.edu (216) 991-6837 (Thursdays and Fridays only) From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 13:51:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA05388 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0B9304434FFFCF118F400000F822310D01AAEAFF@cscnts9.rti.org> From: "Malkin, Melissa" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: Re: Starch Recovery in waste water Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 14:01:26 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Cherri, The textile industry uses starch for its sizing process in some woven fabrics, so we posted your question to Texnet. Below are the two replies we've received regarding possible recovery of starch. Afraid they don't provide useful suggestions for your problem, but hopefully will help you sort out what's feasible. Regards, Melissa Malkin > From: Brent Smith[SMTP:bsmith@tx.ncsu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 9:27 AM > To: Sharma, Aarti > Subject: Re: FW: Starch Recovery in waste water > > During the desizing process, starch is converted to low > molecular weight sugars which are water soluble. Aside > from distillation of the water, it is not possible to > recover these. > > > Return-Path: > > ---------- > From: Warren Perkins[SMTP:wperkins@hestia.fcs.uga.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 9:37 AM > To: texnet@clean.rti.org > Subject: Starch Recovery Question > > Starch in wastewater from textile plants usually is the size washed > from woven fabrics. It is not possible to recover this starch from > wastewater because the starch is hydrolyzed in the desizing (size > removal) process. Amylase enzymes are usually used to hydrolyze the > starch to make it more soluble in water and thus more easily > removable from the fabric. Other materials can be substitute for > starch as warp sizes. High BOD is often associated with warp sizes > based on starch. > > > Warren Perkins > wperkins@fcs.uga.edu > phone- 706-542-4885 > FAX- 706-542-4890 > ============== > > From: cbates@max.state.ia.us[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 1:38 PM > > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > > Subject: Starch Recovery in waste water > > > > We have a client who would like to eliminate starch from their > > wastewater discharge. I need information on Starch Recovery, or > > conversion to sugar, or dehydration techniques, etc. > > > > I have searched Envirosences Technical Database, Water online, and > DOE > > P2 clearinghouse and GNET. I found information about a liquid > cyclone > > system. Anything else you could suggest? > > > > Please reply to: > > Cherri Bates > > Iowa DNR > > 515-281-8499 > > cbates@max.state.ia.us > > > From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 14:28:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA07831 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 14:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCC35F.78C64360.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing Roundtable Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 11:47:25 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Chris and Cherrie, I have access to lots of wastewater treatment technology - most of which I like to use for closed-loop water usage. What volumes of water are we talking about, and is it only the starch/sugar that is causing your problems (no hazmats)? Allan ---------------------------------------------------- Allan Butler, Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: cmontovino@pprc.org [SMTP:cmontovino@pprc.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 9:50 AM To: 'Cherrie Bates'; 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' Subject: RE: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing Roundtable I am also researching a similar topic in preparation for a Food Processing Roundtable being held in Idaho (early December). The Potato Processing Industry has similar starch issues with their process/wastewater. If anyone has experience with P2 issues within the Food Processing Industry, it would be greatly appreciated. Chris Montovino Technical Director Pacific Northwest Pollution Prevention Resource Center 1326 Fifth Avenue, Suite 650 Seattle, WA 98101 Phone: 206-223-1151 FAX: 206-223-1165 email: cmontovino@pprc.org Web Site: http://www.pprc.org/pprc ---------- From: Cherrie Bates[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 10:38 AM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Starch Recovery in waste water We have a client who would like to eliminate starch from their wastewater discharge. I need information on Starch Recovery, or conversion to sugar, or dehydration techniques, etc. I have searched Envirosences Technical Database, Water online, and DOE P2 clearinghouse and GNET. I found information about a liquid cyclone system. Anything else you could suggest? Please reply to: Cherri Bates Iowa DNR 515-281-8499 cbates@max.state.ia.us From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 15:19:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA10678 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34204C9D.40CD@max.state.ia.us> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 14:33:17 -0700 From: cbates@max.state.ia.us (Cherrie Bates) Organization: Iowa DNR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing Roundtable References: <01BCC35F.78C64360.butler@ctc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Allan, We are working with a Food Processors who makes a lot of pasta frozen dinners. 95 million gallons of water per year, but we do not know the starch concentration. Any suggestions? Would distillation work? Butler wrote: > > Chris and Cherrie, > I have access to lots of wastewater treatment technology - most of > which I like to use for closed-loop water usage. > What volumes of water are we talking about, and is it only the > starch/sugar that is causing your problems (no hazmats)? > Allan > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Allan Butler, Senior Engineer > Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) > 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 > Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 > 360-405-5408 > butler@ctc.com > ---------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: cmontovino@pprc.org [SMTP:cmontovino@pprc.org] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 9:50 AM > To: 'Cherrie Bates'; 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' > Subject: RE: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing > Roundtable > > I am also researching a similar topic in preparation for a Food > Processing Roundtable being held in Idaho (early December). The > Potato Processing Industry has similar starch issues with their > process/wastewater. If anyone has experience with P2 issues within > the Food Processing Industry, it would be greatly appreciated. > > Chris Montovino > Technical Director > Pacific Northwest Pollution Prevention Resource Center > 1326 Fifth Avenue, Suite 650 > Seattle, WA 98101 > Phone: 206-223-1151 > FAX: 206-223-1165 > email: cmontovino@pprc.org > Web Site: http://www.pprc.org/pprc > > ---------- > From: Cherrie Bates[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 10:38 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Starch Recovery in waste water > > We have a client who would like to eliminate starch from their > wastewater discharge. I need information on Starch Recovery, or > conversion to sugar, or dehydration techniques, etc. > > I have searched Envirosences Technical Database, Water online, and > DOE > P2 clearinghouse and GNET. I found information about a liquid > cyclone > system. Anything else you could suggest? > > Please reply to: > Cherri Bates > Iowa DNR > 515-281-8499 > cbates@max.state.ia.us From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 16:25:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA14349 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01BCC36F.9BE82600.butler@ctc.com> From: Butler To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing Roundtable Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 13:42:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Cherrie, On our home page are a brief description of a few technologies we have in our demonstration factory, and their capabilities (I have information on others as well). http://www.ndcee.ctc.com/eqframe.htm That is a lot of water... I'll give you a call. ---------------------------------------------------- Allan Butler, Senior Engineer Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 360-405-5408 butler@ctc.com ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: cbates@max.state.ia.us [SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 2:33 PM To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing Roundtable Allan, We are working with a Food Processors who makes a lot of pasta frozen dinners. 95 million gallons of water per year, but we do not know the starch concentration. Any suggestions? Would distillation work? Butler wrote: > > Chris and Cherrie, > I have access to lots of wastewater treatment technology - most of > which I like to use for closed-loop water usage. > What volumes of water are we talking about, and is it only the > starch/sugar that is causing your problems (no hazmats)? > Allan > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Allan Butler, Senior Engineer > Concurrent Technologies Corporation (CTC) > 510 Washington Ave, Suite 120 > Bremerton, WA 98337-1844 > 360-405-5408 > butler@ctc.com > ---------------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: cmontovino@pprc.org [SMTP:cmontovino@pprc.org] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 9:50 AM > To: 'Cherrie Bates'; 'p2tech@great-lakes.net' > Subject: RE: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing > Roundtable > > I am also researching a similar topic in preparation for a Food > Processing Roundtable being held in Idaho (early December). The > Potato Processing Industry has similar starch issues with their > process/wastewater. If anyone has experience with P2 issues within > the Food Processing Industry, it would be greatly appreciated. > > Chris Montovino > Technical Director > Pacific Northwest Pollution Prevention Resource Center > 1326 Fifth Avenue, Suite 650 > Seattle, WA 98101 > Phone: 206-223-1151 > FAX: 206-223-1165 > email: cmontovino@pprc.org > Web Site: http://www.pprc.org/pprc > > ---------- > From: Cherrie Bates[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 10:38 AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Starch Recovery in waste water > > We have a client who would like to eliminate starch from their > wastewater discharge. I need information on Starch Recovery, or > conversion to sugar, or dehydration techniques, etc. > > I have searched Envirosences Technical Database, Water online, and > DOE > P2 clearinghouse and GNET. I found information about a liquid > cyclone > system. Anything else you could suggest? > > Please reply to: > Cherri Bates > Iowa DNR > 515-281-8499 > cbates@max.state.ia.us From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 16:31:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA14839 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970917203852.0067daa8@unlvm.unl.edu> X-Sender: bsen107@unlvm.unl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:38:52 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jan Hygnstrom Subject: RE: Starch Recovery in waste water/Food Processing Roundtable Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I just recalled a talk by a Frito Lay representative at a Region 7 P2 roundtable about a year ago. They collected starch from their wastewater and sold it as starch for laundering/ironing purposes to a commerical starch company! This may provide a lead. I'll check through files to see if I can come up with a name or state, but maybe someone else who attended can recall this. The Roundtable was held either in Iowa or Kansas. >---------- >From: Cherrie Bates[SMTP:cbates@max.state.ia.us] >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 10:38 AM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net >Subject: Starch Recovery in waste water > >We have a client who would like to eliminate starch from their >wastewater discharge. I need information on Starch Recovery, or >conversion to sugar, or dehydration techniques, etc. > >I have searched Envirosences Technical Database, Water online, and DOE >P2 clearinghouse and GNET. I found information about a liquid cyclone >system. Anything else you could suggest? > >Please reply to: >Cherri Bates >Iowa DNR >515-281-8499 >cbates@max.state.ia.us > > From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 16:39:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA15395 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:39:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 17-Sep-1997 16:51:31 -0400; at ncemt1.ctc.com X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 17-Sep-1997 16:53:23 -0400; at ndec-fs1.ctc.com To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: <543A203401501C76@-SMF-> Subject: Wood preservatives From: dionne@ncemt1.ctc.com (Dionne, Denis) Date: 17 Sep 97 16:58:34 EDT References: <543A203402501C76@-SMF-> Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi to all, I remember seeing a posting in regards to alternative wood preservatives a month or more ago... anyway, I've hit the following paper that may be of interest to whoever was look for that information: http://ci.mond.org/current/971811.html (Novel wood preservatives by Edward D. Suttie from the Building Research Establishment Centre for Timber Technology and Construction). Denis Dionne Technology Analyst, Concurrent Technologies Corporation E-Mail: dionne@ctc.com http://www.ctc.com Phone: (814) 269-2739 Fax: (814) 269-6218 From p2tech-owner Wed Sep 17 16:58:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA16580 for p2tech-out; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <19970917.170827.M0FLEI01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU> Date: 17 Sep 1997 17:08:27 EDT From: To: Subject: Re: Lime By-product Reuse? Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Louisville Gas & Electric uses or used carbide lime from acetylene manufacture in their flue gas desulfurization process. Marvin Fleischman, Industrial Assessment Center, Department of Chemical Engineering, University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292, 502/852-6357, FAX:502/852-6355, email:m0flei01@ulkyvm. louisville.edu From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 18 08:35:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA16606 for p2tech-out; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:42:49 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Starch Recovery To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:42:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D105ZXAKCG5AT X400-Mts-Identifier: [;94248081907991/907921@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech All, I also have a Frito-Lay facility with which we exchanged some waste water treatment information, although I do not believe they performed starch recovery. Frito does have a strong corporate P2 effort so I will try get more information on this topic about starch recovery at their operations. Starch in waste water seems to be a big problem. I hope the list is able to pursue this topic to some useful ends at the industrial treatment level...pre-POTW. I believe POTW's like starch discharges as it feeds their micro-organisms. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 18 09:05:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA17873 for p2tech-out; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:05:29 -0400 (EDT) From: WasteMin@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970918091104_1651749071@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: HW1.KBARWICK@hw1.cahwnet.gov, p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: john.lum@em.doe.gov, dweight@cwo.com Subject: Re: p2/energy Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech You wrote: FROM: Kathryn Barwick Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Subject: p2/energy My colleague, Dave Weightman, would like to know about examples/case studies where facilities pursued source reduction opportunities, and received added value due to (measurable) energy savings. I will forward any responses to Dave, or you may e-mail him directly at . Thanks much. Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV My response: Hi. I am a consultant for the U.S. Department of Energy. I don't have an answer immediately to your question about incidental energy savings from pollution prevention projects, but I remember being in a meeting where this specific issue was discussed. I am trying to remember the gentleman's name who was working on this issue. I will do some checking and get back to you. Meanwhile, I was involved with a project for the Department where we solicited and evaluated pollution prevention projects. Our primary criteria was financial payback, with waste reduction as the secondary criteria. As you can imagine, energy savings often contributed to the financial savings. We could probably ferret out those in which energy savings was a major fiscal contributor. Would that be useful to you? If so, let me suggest you make the "official" request for this informaiton to the DOE project manager John Lum at 301/903-1384. He could direct me to provide you that information. Best of luck. Mark Boylan WASTREN Inc. 22 Executive Park Court Germantown MD 20874 301/540-5403 wastemin@aol.com From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 18 10:43:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA23028 for p2tech-out; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:43:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Ronald_A_Del_Mar@rl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:54:18 -0700 Message-ID: <42140570@ccmail.rl.gov> Subject: Re[2]: p2/energy To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Contact Miriam Pye with the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy in Washington DC. She gave a presentation at the DOE P2 Conference in Atlanta last month where she discussed the link between energy efficiency and P2. Her phone number is (202) 429-8873; e:mail - miriam.pye@ccmail.pnl.gov. Ron Del Mar Fluor Daniel Northwest (509) 376-1967 ronald_a_del_mar@rl.gov ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: p2/energy Author: WasteMin@aol.com at ~EXCHANGE Date: 9/18/97 9:15 AM You wrote: FROM: Kathryn Barwick Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control Subject: p2/energy My colleague, Dave Weightman, would like to know about examples/case studies where facilities pursued source reduction opportunities, and received added value due to (measurable) energy savings. I will forward any responses to Dave, or you may e-mail him directly at . Thanks much. Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 P.O. Box 806 E-mail Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV My response: Hi. I am a consultant for the U.S. Department of Energy. I don't have an answer immediately to your question about incidental energy savings from pollution prevention projects, but I remember being in a meeting where this specific issue was discussed. I am trying to remember the gentleman's name who was working on this issue. I will do some checking and get back to you. Meanwhile, I was involved with a project for the Department where we solicited and evaluated pollution prevention projects. Our primary criteria was financial payback, with waste reduction as the secondary criteria. As you can imagine, energy savings often contributed to the financial savings. We could probably ferret out those in which energy savings was a major fiscal contributor. Would that be useful to you? If so, let me suggest you make the "official" request for this informaiton to the DOE project manager John Lum at 301/903-1384. He could direct me to provide you that information. Best of luck. Mark Boylan WASTREN Inc. 22 Executive Park Court Germantown MD 20874 301/540-5403 wastemin@aol.com From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 18 12:03:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA27639 for p2tech-out; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: 18 Sep 97 12:07:42 EST From: Diana Zinkl To: uunet!great-lakes.net!p2tech@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Re[2]: p2/energy X-Mailer: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Check out White, et al, P2 Review/Summer 1993. We also have a couple of case studies in house in which energy $$ savings represented a significant amount of savings. If you are interested, email me directly and I will send them to you. Diana Zinkl Research Analyst Tellus Institute 11 Arlington St. Boston, MA 02116 tel: (617) 266-5400, fax: (617) 266-8303 dzinkl@tellus.org, http://www.tellus.org (note change from 'tellus.com'. '.com' is still usable) From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 18 18:06:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA17510 for p2tech-out; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:13:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Bilkovich To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: HyperSolv -Reply In-Reply-To: <970915084839_1041573113@emout20.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I found the answer to my second question: The flash point of n-propyl bromide (CAS 106-94-5) is 57 degrees Farenheit. As to the first question, MSDS I found says, after may be harmful by inhalation, ingestion, or skin absorption, "to the best of our knowledge, the toxicological properties (of 1-bromopropane) have not been thoroughly investigated. Under ecological information it says "Data not yet available". Bill Bilkovich, EQC 3651 Cherry Bluff Ln Tallahassee, Fl 32312-1001 Fax 850-906-9816 Voice 850-894-2780 or Voice 517-636-4983 bilko@vistech.net On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 NorthTec@aol.com wrote: > I assume you are thinking of carcinogenicity or toxicity, of dibromo > cyclopentane [BDCP]. And that you are concerned that one would be trading > ozone depletion for > carcinogenicity / toxicity. > > The advantage here is that there is no tradeoff: you avoid ozone depletion > potential / carcinogenicity / toxicity, and you get familar performance. The > TLV is not a super high number as we enjoyed with some CFC's, but it is > within a reasonable range as solvents go, and one that we are generally > accustomed to managing. > From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 18 18:06:57 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id SAA17663 for p2tech-out; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3421A9BE.349E@istar.ca> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:22:54 -0700 From: Hamdy el rayes Organization: El Rayes Environmental Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Request for Inf. References: <970918091104_1651749071@emout07.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech I use Netscape 3.01 (Gold) for browsing the internet and getting my email. Today, I found out that the program crashes when I tried to get my email. I later found out that the date on my computer changed to 2097. When this happened, the program kept crashing. I reinstalled the Netscape program, corrected the date on my computer and get the program working after spending a few hours to get the problem solved. I am reporting this to inform you about such a problem and would like to know if you are aware of a virus or a program that can be transferred through the internet and make these changes. Thank you. Best regards. Hamdy El-Rayes, PH.D.P.Eng.,MBA elrayes@istar.ca From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 07:22:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id HAA11366 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 07:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 07:31:16 -0400 From: Warren Weinstein Subject: 2nd P2 Info. Request To: list serve NPPR , P2 Tech List serve Message-ID: <199709190731_MC2-2109-7F89@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ---------- = DESPERATE FOR P2 INFORMATION!! = What are the P2 options for turbines, boilers, process heaters? = We want to make sure that rules currently being written by EPA incor= porate = P2. = = But we need your help!! = = Are there cleaner technology alternatives? any case studies? contact= s of = who may know what options exist? = Please send any relevant info. to: = Felice Stadler, Clean Air Network, 1200 NY Avenue, NW, Suite 400, = Washington, DC 20005, fax: 202-289-1060, phone: 202-289-2403, email:= = fstadler@nrdc.org. = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D End Part 1 / Be= gin Part 2 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= Topic: cc:Mail note part Name: RFC822 message headers Received: from arl-img-5.compuserve.com (149.174.217.135) by mail.nrdc.or= g with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0003335C; Wed, 3 Sep 97 12:03= :42 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by arl-img-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.5) id LAA26439 for FStadler@nrdc.org; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709031559.LAA26439@arl-img-5.compuserve.com> From: CompuServe Postmaster Subject: Undeliverable Message Sender: CompuServe Postmaster To: FStadler@nrdc.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D End Part 2 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 08:14:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA13014 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:23:41 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:06:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: WOOD ASH To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:23:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D130ZXALBZDR7 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;14328091907991/910356@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech One & All, Needed some advice on both wood fly ash and bottom ash. Also, any information on boiler slag generated from the burning of wood would be appreciated. Specifically, I'm looking for: 1) general information about the chemical and physical characteristics associated with wood fly and bottom ash 2) potential reuse options (based on physical and chemical composition) for wood fly and bottom ash 3) any emission control thoughts for CO/CO2 or NOx from wood combustion I thought the fly ash had a basic pH and was generally suitable for agricultural applications (assumming no problems from other contaminants), but was told it was the bottom ash that was more suited to ag-use due to a high pH. Any help or information on this topic would be welcome. I will search the P2tech archives. Thanks, Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us Fax: 717-327-3565 or PADEP Office of Pollution Prevention & Compliance Assistance 208 W. Third Street, Suite 101 Williamsport, PA 17701 ATTN: Ric Illig From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 09:30:15 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA16257 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:42:56 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970919084024.2e276e46@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: gmiller@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Gary Miller Subject: Re: 2nd P2 Info. Request Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Is this request for P2 options in the MANUFACTURE of tubines, boilers and process heaters or in their OPERATION? Assuming the rules are for operation, true P2 would consider the processes in which they are used and evaluate what purpose they serve. For process heaters perhaps there is a way to eliminate their need or at least make the process more energy efficient. The typical use of turbines and boilers is obvious. Reducing energy requirements so that less fuel is required would be an important aspect of P2 with turbines and boilers. Others may know more specifics regarding operating and maintenance procedures for these units such as cleaning. The most recent issue of EPRI highlighted (pun intended) the environmental advantages of ozone (which requires the use of electricity in its production) for cleaning and disinfection. Gary Miller At 07:31 AM 9/19/97 -0400, you wrote: >---------- > DESPERATE FOR P2 INFORMATION!! > > What are the P2 options for turbines, boilers, process heaters? > > We want to make sure that rules currently being written by EPA incorporate > P2. > > But we need your help!! > > Are there cleaner technology alternatives? any case studies? contacts of > who may know what options exist? > > Please send any relevant info. to: > > Felice Stadler, Clean Air Network, 1200 NY Avenue, NW, Suite 400, > Washington, DC 20005, fax: 202-289-1060, phone: 202-289-2403, email: > fstadler@nrdc.org. > > >=================== End Part 1 / Begin Part 2 ===================== >Topic: cc:Mail note part >Name: RFC822 message headers > >Received: from arl-img-5.compuserve.com (149.174.217.135) by mail.nrdc.org with >SMTP > (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0003335C; Wed, 3 Sep 97 12:03:42 >-0400 >Received: (from root@localhost) > by arl-img-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.5) id LAA26439 > for FStadler@nrdc.org; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <199709031559.LAA26439@arl-img-5.compuserve.com> >From: CompuServe Postmaster >Subject: Undeliverable Message >Sender: CompuServe Postmaster >To: FStadler@nrdc.org > >========================== End Part 2 ============================= > > ******************************************************************* Gary D. Miller Illinois Waste Management and Research Center One East Hazelwood Drive Champaign, IL 61820 217/333-8942 phone 217/333-8944 fax gmiller@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu ****************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 09:50:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA17341 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 09:58:56 -0400 From: Wendy Fitzner To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: WOOD ASH -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard, a good source for any questions concerning the pulp and paper industry is NCASI (National Council of the Paper Industry for Air and Stream Improvement, Inc.) They are a scientific and technical organization that does research on environmental issues for the industry. Though they have regional offices, their headquarters is in RTP. The phone number there is (919) 558-1991. They have several hundred reseach papers on every subject, so I am sure they will have some information available that would address your question. Wendy Wendy Fitzner Pollution Prevention Section Environmental Assistance Division Michigan Department of Enviromental Quality 333 S. Capital P.O. Box 48933 Lansing, MI 48909-7957 phone: 517-373-8798 fax: 517-335-4729 email: fitznerw@state.mi.us From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 11:38:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA23595 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 11:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709191538.LAA23595@cedar.cic.net> From: Diana Zinkl To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Re[2]: p2/energy Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Check out White, et al, P2 Review/Summer 1993. We also have a couple of case studies in house in which energy $$ savings represented a significant amount of savings. If you are interested, email me directly and I will send them to you. Diana Zinkl Research Analyst Tellus Institute 11 Arlington St. Boston, MA 02116 tel: (617) 266-5400, fax: (617) 266-8303 dzinkl@tellus.org, http://www.tellus.org (note change from 'tellus.com'. '.com' is still usable) From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 13:18:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA29759 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:17:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Wilson.Bill@epamail.epa.gov Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:27:13 -0700 Subject: EPA Region 9 P2 Website To: P2@ucsd.edu, p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-id: <88256517.005F3CB2.00@RTNTEMAIL.RTRT2144.EPA.GOV> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Lotus-FromDomain: EPA Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech EPA Region 9 proudly announces the upgrade of its Pollution Prevention presence on the Internet. You'll find contact information, a calendar of events, bibliographies, financial assitance program briefs, and a whole lot more. Our Web address is: http://www.epa.gov/region09/cross_pr/p2/index.htm From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 14:27:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA04053 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:27:30 -0400 (EDT) From: RossRadTec@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970919143329_-1932519460@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net cc: UVEB@radtech.com Subject: Re: p2/energy Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech To those who are interested in energy savings thru P2 Coors Beer makes around 4;000,000, 000 cans a year. They have shifted from conventional solvent containing inks and coatings to UV cured inks and coatings which contain no solvents. This is top notch P2 performance. Furthermore, these coatings and inks are cured rapidly and completely by the UV light. They require no ovens for the cure and no oxidizers to destroy solvent VOC's. The electical energy required to run the UV lamps is about equal to the electical energy that was formerly needed to run the conveyors in the drying ovens (now completely eliminated). Coors saves all the money that used to go into gas energy in the drying ovens as well as potential new costs for energy to run incinerators. This involveds millions of dollars a year !!! This is only one example in which the use of UV and electron beam curing of non-polluting , non-solvent coatings, inks, adhesives and related materials are reducing energy consumption as well as reducing pollution. For further information and examples contact: RadTech International N.A. Phone: 847-480-9576 E-mail: UVEB @ radtech.com TTTTThis is only one example where UV and electron beam curing From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 19 17:07:38 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA12204 for p2tech-out; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: PioLom@aol.com Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970919171212_1090354328@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: WOOD ASH Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard Bottom ash has been successfully used as a substitute for sand in sand filter systems for wastewater treatment Contact Small Flows Clearinghouse West Virginia University Morgantown Pio Lombardo From p2tech-owner Sat Sep 20 16:13:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id QAA23580 for p2tech-out; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 16:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 15:21:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199709202021.PAA26801@mx2.io.com> X-Sender: jamesem@mail.io.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Michael R. James" Subject: Re: 2nd P2 Info. Request Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Help me understand your question. Are you discussing P2 options for the manufacture of turbines, boilers, process heaters etc or are you talking about the operation and use of this equipment. What applications are you interested in the options for. Boilers for central utility heating applications, or boilers used to generate process steam or boilers used to generate electricity. Are you discussing turbines to power a ship or turbines to pump water or turbines to generate electricity. The same type of applications apply in process heaters, air to air, water to air, water to water etc. ****************** At 07:31 AM 9/19/97 -0400, you wrote: >---------- > DESPERATE FOR P2 INFORMATION!! > > What are the P2 options for turbines, boilers, process heaters? > > We want to make sure that rules currently being written by EPA incorporate > P2. > > But we need your help!! > > Are there cleaner technology alternatives? any case studies? contacts of > who may know what options exist? > > Please send any relevant info. to: > > Felice Stadler, Clean Air Network, 1200 NY Avenue, NW, Suite 400, > Washington, DC 20005, fax: 202-289-1060, phone: 202-289-2403, email: > fstadler@nrdc.org. > > >=================== End Part 1 / Begin Part 2 ===================== >Topic: cc:Mail note part >Name: RFC822 message headers > >Received: from arl-img-5.compuserve.com (149.174.217.135) by mail.nrdc.org with >SMTP > (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0003335C; Wed, 3 Sep 97 12:03:42 >-0400 >Received: (from root@localhost) > by arl-img-5.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.5) id LAA26439 > for FStadler@nrdc.org; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) >Message-Id: <199709031559.LAA26439@arl-img-5.compuserve.com> >From: CompuServe Postmaster >Subject: Undeliverable Message >Sender: CompuServe Postmaster >To: FStadler@nrdc.org > >========================== End Part 2 ============================= > > Michael R. James 1004 Lime Rock Drive Round Rock, TX 78681 512-244-3631 512-244-0853 fax jamesem@io.com From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 22 09:36:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA28988 for p2tech-out; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:34:30 -0400 (EDT) From: herrick@admin.njit.edu Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:45:05 EST To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-ID: <009BAAC4.AB300BCC.165@admin.njit.edu> Subject: RE: WOOD ASH Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard Illig, Wood ash is one of our oldest fertilizers (as in slash-and-burn). There are twenty-some nutrient elements that plants extract from the soil. Although two macronutrients--nitrogen and sulpher--are volatilized by burning, calcium, magnesium, potassium, phosporous and virtually all of the micronutirents remain in the ash. Most of the nutients react as bases, but the reason for applying ash to soil has more to do with adding nutrients than adjusting pH. Fortunately, these two objectives are in harmony: ash does both. The reason agricultural soil becomes acidic is due to the loss of these bases by crop removal and leaching. One caution: if the wood has ben treated or painted, you'll obviously want to be careful what gets added to agricultural soil with the ash. Bruce Herrick NJTAP P.S. Because both sulphur and nitrogen are present in large quantities in organic matter and are volatilized by burning, you'll need to consider SOx as well as NOx emissions from the wood-fired boilers. From p2tech-owner Thu Sep 25 17:43:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA23403 for p2tech-out; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 97 16:49 EST From: (C. Charlie Sullivan) To: (P2TECHNET) X-Mailer: OPN:Office Message-Id: Subject: Re: Theo Colburn, noted author Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Re: Theo Colburn, noted author and endocrine disruptor expert. If you have contact information for her, please respond to me directly: Charles Sullivan, IDEM/OPPTA, ISTA Suite 703, P.O. Box 6015, Indianapolis, IN 46206-6015, Tel: 317-232-8174, or via (ccs@opn.dem.state.in.us.) Thank You From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 09:14:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id JAA05977 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Hillenbrand, Steve J." To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Cc: "McEntyre, Charles L." , "Phillips, Joseph W." , "Mantooth, Jim G." , "Loney, Jon M." , "Brown, Lynn R." , "Scheffler, Peter K." Cc: "Williams, Ronald J." Subject: RE: p2/energy Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:23:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech See the two "Measuring Success:..." publications on our web site. http://www.tva.gov/orgs/iwr/publish.htm >---------- >From: m_pye@ccmail.pnl.gov[SMTP:m_pye@ccmail.pnl.gov] >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 1997 12:54 PM >To: p2tech@great-lakes.net; nppr@great-lakes.net; p2tech@great_lakes.net; >nppr@great_lakes.net; Kathryn Barwick >Subject: Re: p2/energy > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: p2/energy >Author: Kathryn Barwick at -SMTPLink >Date: 9/16/97 9:09 AM > > > Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development > California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control > > Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 > OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 > P.O. Box 806 E-mail > Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV >*** Forwarding note from KBARWICK--HW1 09/15/97 15:58 *** >To: OAS --HW1SSW1 > >FROM: Kathryn Barwick > Office of Pollution Prevention and Tech Development > California Dept. of Toxic Substances Control >Subject: p2/energy > >My colleague, Dave Weightman, would like to know about examples/case studies >where facilities pursued source reduction opportunities, and received added >value due to (measurable) energy savings. I will forward any responses to >Dave, or you may e-mail him directly at . Thanks much. > > Kathryn Barwick P(916) 323-9560 > OPPTD/DTSC F(916) 327-4494 > P.O. Box 806 E-mail > Sacramento, CA 95812-0806 HW1.KBARWICK@HW1.CAHWNET.GOV > > From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 10:51:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA11585 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970926090011.006b5f70@quest.oscs.montana.edu> X-Sender: toddm@quest.oscs.montana.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:00:11 -0600 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Todd MacFadden Subject: Autobody spray booth odors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Gang - Need ideas for a local body shop interested in cutting the odors from his booth exhaust to mollify a grumbling neighbor. It's been a long-time dispute, and over the months he's employed most of our recommended P2 options: HVLP, good application techniques, high-solids coatings, enclosed gun cleaning - even water-borne where possible. But the neighbor's still complaining, and the shop owner is at the end of his stack, so to speak, for solutions. Going over there next week to check out his spray booth set-up; wondering if anyone has any suggestions to pass on (regarding the booth, or addition P2 options, or whatever)... Many thanks Todd ******************Montana P2 Program******************* Todd MacFadden Pollution Prevention Technical Specialist MSU Extension Service Taylor Hall (406) 994-3451 Box 173580 (fax) 994-5417 Bozeman, MT 59717-3580 toll-free (888) MSU-6872 toddm@montana.edu http://www.montana.edu/wwwated *******Pollution Prevention Makes Business Sense******* From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 10:59:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA12106 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 10:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970926111204.0071b488@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: clarkjan@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:12:04 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Janet Clark Subject: Re: Theo Colburn, noted author In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 04:49 PM 9/25/97 EST, you wrote: > > > > >Re: Theo Colburn, noted author and endocrine disruptor expert. >If you have contact information for her, please respond to me >directly: Charles Sullivan, IDEM/OPPTA, ISTA Suite 703, P.O. >Box 6015, Indianapolis, IN 46206-6015, Tel: 317-232-8174, or >via (ccs@opn.dem.state.in.us.) Thank You > Dr. Theo Colborn is a Senior Fellow at the World Wildlife Fund and the W. Alton Jones Foundation, Inc. in Washington, DC. I'm sorry but I do not have a telephone number or address. Janet Clark Technology Transfer Manager MA Toxics Use Reduction Institute University of Massachusetts One University Ave. Lowell, MA 01854-2866 Tel 978-934-3346 Fax 978-934-3050 email clarkjan@turi.org ***************************************** TURI has a new web site at www.turi.org or //turi.uml.edu Featured are projects, P2Gems, the Surface Cleaning Lab, our publications list and more. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 11:35:11 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA14240 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 97 10:46 EST From: (David Lawrence) To: (P2 Info Sharing) X-Mailer: OPN:Office Message-Id: Subject: Re: Autobody spray booth odors Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech ** Orig: 09/26/97 10:00 am ** ** SMTP: s. Postmaster ** Re: Autobody spray booth odors ** Reply: 09/26/97 10:37 am ** ** DLAWR: D. Lawrence ** We've had similar complaints in the past, in the Northwest Indiana area. I have gone out for a "test" on several occasions, and could not come up with any migrating odors. With the new technology mandated by the auto refinishing RACT (HVLP, enclosed cleaners, compliant coatings, etc.) there is much less of the solvents to produce the odors. I'd look to see if there was a pre-existing feud between these neighbors, or some other personality conflict. David Lawrence, Indiana Dept. of Env. Mgmt., 504 No. Broadway, Suite 418, Gary, IN 46402; (219) 8816720, e-mail dlawr@opn.dem. state.in.us. From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 12:08:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA16179 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 12:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 12:16:43 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:55:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Autobody Spray Booth Odors To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 12:16:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D189ZXASHJPQD X400-Mts-Identifier: [;34612162907991/925134@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Todd, If the emissions are released at ground level, or near ground level, perhaps a stack (vent pipe), to release emissions above roof level, might help. The higher, perhaps the better? Has anyone determined if the odor problem is real? I read a good story about an individual who cronically complained about odors from sewage sludge application on a nearby field. Reportedly, parking an EMPTY spreader truck on the field received the same complaints. If the problem is imaginery, or the complainant is sensitized to the odors, plain auto or diesel truck engine emissions might set them off. Could there be odors from other sources for which the paint operation is being blamed? Gas pumps? About the only other method, P2 aside, for eliminating odors is to run them through a "treatment" unit prior to release. In colder areas, now that fall is upon us, windows tend to be closed more often minimizing such complaints. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 13:07:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA19561 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 13:07:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 13:15:47 -0400 From: Wendy Fitzner To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Autobody spray booth odors -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech A couple of simple ideas: He can try a taller stack (not a cheap option). Also he may want to make sure that he is keeping this facility tightly closed (don't leave the back doors open. Some plants have tried berms around the buildings to keep odors "trapped". Of course the best solution is to get rid of the material that is causing the most trouble. Wendy Fitzner Pollution Prevention Section Environmental Assistance Division Michigan Department of Enviromental Quality 333 S. Capital P.O. Box 48933 Lansing, MI 48909-7957 phone: 517-373-8798 fax: 517-335-4729 email: fitznerw@state.mi.us From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 15:14:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA27744 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709261913.PAA27744@cedar.cic.net> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Jack Annis Subject: Paint Solids Recovery Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hello All, Sorry for the delay in getting this info out to those who are interested in paint solid recovery. The Caterpillar, Track Type Tractor Division in East Peoria Ill has developed a process to recover paint sludge in a form that can be reused as an additive to paint. The contact(s) at Caterpillar are George Mitchell or John Spangler at 309-675-2855. If you wish I will fax you a copy of the article about their process which appeared in a March 1996 issue of Industrial Paint & Powder but I would prefer you contact them directly. I'm not sure if Cat intends to sell the right to use their process or if they are actually recovering paint solids for others. The second company is Environmental Purification Industries of Toledo Ohio. Their telephone is 419-727-0495 and fax is 419-727-0595. EPI is already in the business of recycling this material. Another option that helps decrease the volume of this sludge material prior to any recovery/recycling process is to centrifuge the material to separate more liquid. This is most frequently accomplished in conjunction with a water fall type paint booth. The liquid is then reused whether it be water or solvent. Jack From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 15:18:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id PAA28027 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 15:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970926192909.00a6d5c8@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: listman@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 14:29:09 -0500 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" (by way of List Manager ) Subject: Autobody Spray Booth Odors Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Todd, If the emissions are released at ground level, or near ground level, perhaps a stack (vent pipe), to release emissions above roof level, might help. The higher, perhaps the better? Has anyone determined if the odor problem is real? I read a good story about an individual who cronically complained about odors from sewage sludge application on a nearby field. Reportedly, parking an EMPTY spreader truck on the field received the same complaints. If the problem is imaginery, or the complainant is sensitized to the odors, plain auto or diesel truck engine emissions might set them off. Could there be odors from other sources for which the paint operation is being blamed? Gas pumps? About the only other method, P2 aside, for eliminating odors is to run them through a "treatment" unit prior to release. In colder areas, now that fall is upon us, windows tend to be closed more often minimizing such complaints. Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Fri Sep 26 19:15:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id TAA08670 for p2tech-out; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 19:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF0167060@PASNT08> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Autobody Spray Booth Odors Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 16:23:55 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard, What did you just do to send your e-mail ? For months, all of the messages received from state.pa.us have been blank. Did you change software or e-mail addresses ? I note that your From address is different that your address posted at the end of this message. I sure wish we could solve this blank message problem. Regards, Mike.callahan@jacobs.com Regarding this odor problem, it may or may not be real. Changing paints from solvent to high solids or water-borne can have a major effect on odors. Can the neighbor see when they are spraying ? Some shops will spray parts outside of the booth. The neighbor sees the spray and then starts smelling odors like crazy. Even a visible steam plume can set some people off. Perhaps you can set up an odor panel and try to determine what the offensive compound is. Be sure to include non-paint related compounds such as hydrogen sulphide, mercaptan, and butyl acetate. Try to include people both upwind and downwind of the paint booth. What kind of filters are they using and how often do they change them (assuming they are the dry type). Did they switch to styrofoam filters as a P2 option ? These do not provide adequate particulate removal unless backed up by a dry filter. If all else fails, have the paint shop apologize for the nuisance and then offer to paint the guys car. > ---------- > From: Richard Illig (717) > 327-3568[SMTP:ILLIG.RICHARD@a1.pader.gov] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Friday, September 26, 1997 12:29PM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Autobody Spray Booth Odors > > Todd, > > If the emissions are released at ground level, or near ground > level, perhaps a stack (vent pipe), to release emissions above > roof level, might help. The higher, perhaps the better? > > Has anyone determined if the odor problem is real? I read a good > story about an individual who cronically complained about odors > from sewage sludge application on a nearby field. Reportedly, > parking an EMPTY spreader truck on the field received the same > complaints. > > If the problem is imaginery, or the complainant is sensitized to > the odors, plain auto or diesel truck engine emissions might set > them off. Could there be odors from other sources for which the > paint operation is being blamed? Gas pumps? > > About the only other method, P2 aside, for eliminating odors is to > > run them through a "treatment" unit prior to release. In colder > areas, now that fall is upon us, windows tend to be closed more > often minimizing such complaints. > > Ric > illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us > > > From p2tech-owner Sat Sep 27 11:27:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA09006 for p2tech-out; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 11:26:02 -0400 (EDT) From: RossRadTec@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 11:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970927113448_760873702@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Re: Autobody spray booth odors Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech As long as your client is pumping volatile solvents from his spray booths, he will have odorous emissions. They can get pretty bad on days with temperature inversions. The only answer is to use coatings without such solvents. UV curable coatings contain no solvents. They are now being used on furniture, cans, plastics, etc. I don't know if there are any UV curable automotive finishes as yet. From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 29 12:27:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id MAA16072 for p2tech-out; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 12:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 12:27:12 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:44:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Elimination of Lead To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 12:27:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D145ZXAVHSVG9 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;21722192907991/929206@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech All, A manufacturer of gas meters makes some small parts out of a generic "white metal" containing about 30 percent lead. All in-process metal wastes are recycled in-house. All out-of-service meters are either repaired or recycled. The manufacturer would like to eliminate the use of the high lead white metal for a tin-based replacement. The problem is finding a pressing reason to change current operations and eliminate the lead. ****************************************************************** Is anyone aware of any pressing regulatory demands for elimination of the lead? (like by the year 2000? or similar stuff) Any pressing OSHA requirements which may make worker exposure levels more of a concern? (currently not an issue at the facility) Any regulations which may make the leaded metal hard to come by for production thereby forcing a change?? Is anyone aware of any web sites that discuss lead and may address reasons to eliminate lead (other than from paints or in construction)? ****************************************************************** The only positive aspects I can point to is liability reduction and another feather in the facility's cap relative to overall facility P2 improvements (reduction in toxicity) and possibly grounds for an Environmental Award. Your help is always appreciated, Ric illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 29 14:39:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA24524 for p2tech-out; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 14:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970929144832.009138b0@pop.cwru.edu> X-Sender: rec3@pop.cwru.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 14:48:32 -0400 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Ralph Cooper Subject: Re: Elimination of Lead In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 11:44 AM 9/29/97 -0500, Ric wrote: > > All, > > A manufacturer of gas meters makes some small parts out of a > generic "white metal" containing about 30 percent lead. All > in-process metal wastes are recycled in-house. All out-of-service > meters are either repaired or recycled. The manufacturer would > like to eliminate the use of the high lead white metal for a > tin-based replacement. The problem is finding a pressing reason > to change current operations and eliminate the lead. > ****************************************************************** > Is anyone aware of any pressing regulatory demands for elimination > of the lead? (like by the year 2000? or similar stuff) > > Any pressing OSHA requirements which may make worker exposure > levels more of a concern? (currently not an issue at the facility) > > Any regulations which may make the leaded metal hard to come by > for production thereby forcing a change?? > > Is anyone aware of any web sites that discuss lead and may address > reasons to eliminate lead (other than from paints or in > construction)? > ****************************************************************** > > The only positive aspects I can point to is liability reduction > and another feather in the facility's cap relative to overall > facility P2 improvements (reduction in toxicity) and possibly > grounds for an Environmental Award. > > Your help is always appreciated, > Ric > illig.richard@a1.dep.state.pa.us Lead is worth getting rid of because of its high priority in EPA's policy and enforcement activities. Using it draws unwanted attention and is unnecessary. It may soon get more attention from OSHA as well. There is little reason to continue using lead if an alternative can be found. It is difficult to handle lead with no environmental or occupational exposure, and any exposure should be avoided. Ralph Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D. CWRU School of Law rec3@po.cwru.edu (216) 991-6837 (Thursdays and Fridays only) From p2tech-owner Mon Sep 29 17:05:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id RAA27482 for p2tech-out; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 17:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2B097BF186C5D0119A1400805FC14BF0167062@PASNT08> From: "Callahan, Mike" To: "'p2tech@great-lakes.net'" Subject: RE: Elimination of Lead Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 14:16:12 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Richard, The electronics industry has been a strong leader in the search for lead substitutes. I believe the main driver is to reduce the amount of lead which eventually enters landfills in scrap electronic gear. I believe the USEPA has some programs which award lead elimination in industry. I could probably dig up some leads on this if no one else can. Does this facility cast the lead ? I assume this lead is used for the seal that allows the utility to detect if the meter has been opened and tampered with. If someone is casting lead, then the facility may have to monitor these workers for blood lead levels. This could be an incentive to find a lead-free product. Regards Mike.callahan@jacobs.com P.S. Your message came through blank again, oh well. > ---------- > From: Richard Illig (717) > 327-3568[SMTP:ILLIG.RICHARD@a1.pader.gov] > Reply To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Sent: Monday, September 29, 1997 9:44AM > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net > Subject: Elimination of Lead > > From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 30 08:54:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id IAA03806 for p2tech-out; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:06:21 -0400 From: Vanessa Smith To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Ohio Waste Prevention Coalition Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hello! I'm trying to determine the level of interest in starting a new organization. It would be modelled after the National Waste Prevention Coalition and the Northwest Waste Prevention Coalition. It would be an informal organization of people in the waste management field in Ohio. There would be no official membership list and no dues. The mission would be : To undertake consumer source reduction projects that make a difference in Ohio. Communication would take place mostly through conference calls and e-mail. I'm hoping that such an organization's activities would jive with the participants' current job responsibilities. So, additional funding would not be necessary. Let me know what you think. Vanessa Smith Ohio EPA's Office of Pollution Prevention vanessa.smith@epa.state.oh.us (614) 728-1262 From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 30 10:57:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id KAA11142 for p2tech-out; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709301455.KAA11142@cedar.cic.net> From: "Richard Illig (717) 327-3568" Subject: Elimination of Lead To: p2tech@great-lakes.net.A.manufacturer.of.gas.meters.makes.some.small.parts.out.of.a.generic"white metal"containing.about.30.percent.lead.All.in-process.metal.wastes.are.recycled.in-house.All.out-of-service.meters.are.either.repaire Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 30 11:14:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA12466 for p2tech-out; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Mr-Received: by mta DER003; Relayed; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:23:26 -0500 Alternate-Recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:21:24 -0500 (EST) From: Deirdre Lehman Subject: FWD: Substitutes for phosphorous washes/paints To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary_[ID_LR7U/YJaPH4GJ5CnjJnT0Q]" Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:23:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Ua-Content-Id: D138ZXAWG9LHC X400-Mts-Identifier: [;62321103907991/931977@DER003] A1-Type: MAIL Hop-Count: 1 Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech --Boundary_[ID_LR7U/YJaPH4GJ5CnjJnT0Q] Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Did my original message ever post? I didn't receive any responses so I'm sending this again. If it is received blank, please let me know. Dee Lehman --Boundary_[ID_LR7U/YJaPH4GJ5CnjJnT0Q] Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:46:20 EST From: Deirdre Lehman Subject: Substitutes for phosphorous washes/paints To: Remote Addressee Cc: Jo Anne Hollash , Marjorie Hughes Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Delivery-date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:55:00 EST Posting-date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:55:00 EST Importance: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential A1-type: MAIL Hi: I am attempting to answer a query regarding the use of phosphate washes. A steel parts manufacturer in PA uses a liquid spray wash consisting of phosphates which is used to prep steel prior to painting. The phosphate helps the paint adhere to the steel. However, they are having difficulty meeting local effluent limits. Are there any a. substitute products available which can be used for this purpose? b. Is there a different process that can acheive the same result which is waterless and does not result in VOCs? c. substitute paints that can skip this washing process altogether but results in good adhesion to steel? Thanks for your help. Deirdre T. Lehman reply directly via P2 tech or call 717-772-5160 or email at Lehman.Deirdre@1.dep.state.pa.us or write: PA DEP Office of Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance PO BOX 8772 Harrisburg, PA 17105 --Boundary_[ID_LR7U/YJaPH4GJ5CnjJnT0Q]-- From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 30 11:17:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id LAA12667 for p2tech-out; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970930112955.31e7c366@mailbox.bgsu.edu> X-Sender: daveh@mailbox.bgsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:29:55 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Dave Heinlen Subject: Re: Ohio Waste Prevention Coalition In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech At 09:06 AM 9/30/1997 -0400, you wrote: >Hello! > >I'm trying to determine the level of interest in starting a new >organization. > >It would be modelled after the National Waste Prevention Coalition and >the Northwest Waste Prevention Coalition. It would be an informal >organization of people in the waste management field in Ohio. There >would >be no official membership list and no dues. The mission would be : To >undertake consumer source reduction projects that make a difference in >Ohio. > >Communication would take place mostly through conference calls and >e-mail. > >I'm hoping that such an organization's activities would jive with the >participants' current job responsibilities. So, additional funding would not >be necessary. > >Let me know what you think. > >Vanessa Smith >Ohio EPA's Office of Pollution Prevention >vanessa.smith@epa.state.oh.us >(614) 728-1262 > > Vanessa, Sounds great!! Anything I can do to assist and/or participate in such a worthwhile project, please let me know. Dave From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 30 13:04:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id NAA19216 for p2tech-out; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:09:12 -0400 From: Wendy Fitzner To: nppr@great-lakes.net, p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: posters -Forwarded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_E3B6EBBC.82E38FC7" Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_E3B6EBBC.82E38FC7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I received this note from Lithuania asking about visual outreach efforts to get the P2 word out and was hoping some of you might have some ideas. (Also if anyone has the address of the people in California that put together the P2 week poster, please send to me or this person). Thanks. Wendy Wendy Fitzner Pollution Prevention Section Environmental Assistance Division Michigan Department of Enviromental Quality 333 S. Capital P.O. Box 48933 Lansing, MI 48909-7957 phone: 517-373-8798 fax: 517-335-4729 email: fitznerw@state.mi.us --=_E3B6EBBC.82E38FC7 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from dns.state.mi.us ([167.240.253.3]) by ngw.state.mi.us (GroupWise SMTP/MIME daemon 4.1 v3) ; Mon, 29 Sep 97 12:09:00 EDT Received: from pikuolis.omnitel.net (root@pikuolis.omnitel.net [205.244.197.1]) by dns.state.mi.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA14800 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:56:39 -0400 Received: from leonardasrinkevicius.omnitel.net (dialkn61.omnitel.net [205.244.197.221]) by pikuolis.omnitel.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23040 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 19:13:00 GMT Message-Id: <199709291913.TAA23040@pikuolis.omnitel.net> X-Sender: a84810@pikuolis.omnitel.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:13:00 -0400 From: Leonardas Rinkevicius To: FITZNERW@state.mi.us Subject: posters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Dear Mr. Wendy Fitzner, Greetings from Lithuania. We were intrigued by your comments on the poster which has been distributed during the P2 festivities in California. Since we are deeply involved in promoting P2 in Lithuania, and dissemination of encouraging/ attractive information materials is one of our objectives, we would like to learn from such examples as the Californian poster. Could you help us getting e-mail or other coordinates of a contact person in California whom we could approach regarding this matter? Yours sincerely, Leonardas Rinkevicius Kaunas University of Technology Donelaicio 20 LT-3000 Kaunas Lithuania Fax: +370 7 20723 e-mail:leorin@kaunas.omnitel.net --=_E3B6EBBC.82E38FC7-- From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 30 14:10:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA23721 for p2tech-out; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:22:15 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970930131935.299f3448@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: gmiller@sun2.hazard.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p2tech@great-lakes.net From: Gary Miller Subject: Re: FWD: Substitutes for phosphorous washes/paints Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Dear Venessa, I will send you a repoprt on how to solve the problem of oil and grease in their wastewater if that is the problem. This assumes they are using a surfactant/iron phospatizing degreasing/surface preparation bath. The approach we have found, in-process removal of the oil and grease, has been successfully employed by similar companies and often saves money in the first year. if the company needs more technical help, please feel free to give me a call. Gary Miller At 11:21 AM 9/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >Did my original message ever post? I didn't receive any responses so I'm sending >this again. If it is received blank, please let me know. Dee Lehman > >Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:46:20 EST >From: Deirdre Lehman >Subject: Substitutes for phosphorous washes/paints >To: Remote Addressee >Cc: Jo Anne Hollash , > Marjorie Hughes >Message-id: >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII >Delivery-date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:55:00 EST >Posting-date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 11:55:00 EST >Importance: normal >Sensitivity: Company-Confidential >A1-type: MAIL > >Hi: I am attempting to answer a query regarding the use of phosphate washes. A >steel parts manufacturer in PA uses a liquid spray wash consisting of phosphates >which is used to prep steel prior to painting. The phosphate helps the paint >adhere to the steel. However, they are having difficulty meeting local effluent >limits. Are there any > a. substitute products available which can be used for this purpose? > b. Is there a different process that can acheive the same result which >is waterless and does not result in VOCs? > c. substitute paints that can skip this washing process altogether but >results in good adhesion to steel? > >Thanks for your help. > >Deirdre T. Lehman > >reply directly via P2 tech or > >call 717-772-5160 or >email at Lehman.Deirdre@1.dep.state.pa.us >or write: > >PA DEP >Office of Pollution Prevention and Compliance Assistance >PO BOX 8772 >Harrisburg, PA 17105 > > ******************************************************************* Gary D. Miller Illinois Waste Management and Research Center One East Hazelwood Drive Champaign, IL 61820 217/333-8942 phone 217/333-8944 fax gmiller@wmrc.hazard.uiuc.edu ****************************************************************************** From p2tech-owner Tue Sep 30 14:56:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by cedar.cic.net (8.8.5/CICNet) id OAA27015 for p2tech-out; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:55:11 -0400 (EDT) From: g-whiz@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: <343148F2.42C6@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:46:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: p2tech@great-lakes.net Subject: Anyone know about Plastics Recycling Foundation? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-p2tech@great-lakes.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: p2tech@great-lakes.net List-Name: P2Tech Hi All! I came across an organization called the Plastics Recycling Foundation in Kennett Square, Pennsylvania, but I haven't been able to get through their phone number, 215-444-0659. The automated operator says the line is being checked for trouble. I've tried several times in the past few days and haven't been able to get through. Does anyone know if they are still around? Thanks! Gerard Forgnone Plastic Oil Products -- BOB Homepage: http://www.netcom.com/~g-whiz