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Re: Cremation or burial? -Reply

My ex hit a deer in a fairly remote area of Michigan last year and totalled
his rental car.  While he was waiting for the cops to come and take the
report, two-legged scavengers showed up to...  Uh...  Dispose of the carcass
(which is illegal).  This may be the p2 solution to disposing of roadkill,
but it wouldn't apply to all species (except maybe in the deep south).

Californians aren't so frugal with their roadside resources.  There's an
area of the 101 Freeway north of San Francisco that is sometimes just
littered with deer carcasses.  I wonder if they wind up being landfilled.

I know that, at least in some areas, licenses to hunt deer wounded by
vehicles are issued, but I never heard of a program for handling fresh

Back to the orginal cremation vs. burial question:  Isn't burial at sea
another option?   Federal regulations require that a person be buried at sea
no closer than three miles to shore and at a depth of at least 100 fathoms,
or about 600 feet.  The body must be weighted so that it sinks immediately
and permanently.  Seems like this might be an option that is clearly best
for the environment, with minor transportation impacts and the manufacturing
impacts of the weight.  Coffins aren't required.

Kirsten Sinclair Rosselot, P.E.
Process Profiles
P.O. Box 8264
Calabasas, CA 91372-8264


(818) 878-0454

----- Original Message -----
From: William Bilkovich <bilko@electro-net.com>
To: Kelly Moran <kmoran@tdcenvironmental.com>; p2tech
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: Cremation or burial? -Reply

> When I was younger, I was fascinated by Coleoptera.  Road kill was a great
> place to watch the succession of life as the body decomposed.  Every night
> after school (in warm weather) I would bike out to my latest find to see
> what beetles had shown up.  I have always wanted to follow the same path
> death as those dogs, racoons, and possums of my youth.   Just drop me in
> woods and let the bugs have at me.
> But what's the relative impact?  Does anyone know the annual biomass of
> roadkill in the US?  It may be comparable to human deaths.  (For example,
> the State of Michigan reports that there are 50,000 deer/auto collisions
> each year.)
> I had all my mercury fillings removed 10 years ago so I think I just have
> remove the chlorinated organo-metallic compounds from my armpits and I'm
> ready to go.
> Bill Bilkovich
> Somewhere on the road to California
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kelly Moran <kmoran@tdcenvironmental.com>
> To: p2tech <p2tech@great-lakes.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Cremation or burial? -Reply
> While I hate to add to this much too long chain, I have to post a
> correction to the misconception that "there is not much mercury in
> dental fillings any more".  That's simply not true.  Depending on the
> data source, I have seen estimates that 40 to 70% of fillings placed are
> amalgam fillings.  The basic mercury content of such fillings has not
> changed significantly.  Here in the San Francisco Bay area, we recently
> discovered that emissions of mercury from crematoria may be one of the
> most significant sources of current mercury release to San Francisco Bay
> (for which there is a health alert for consumption of certain fish due
> to elevated mercury levels).  There is a way to prevent these mercury
> emissions, but no one wants to talk about it.
> Kelly Moran
> TDC Environmental
> www.tdcenvironmental.com
> Ralph Cooper wrote:
> > There is not much mercury in dental fillings
> > anymore and the cremation process should fully
> > incinerate any formaldehyde, which is an
> > oxygenated fuel!  Population control, via birth
> > control and plain old abstinence, is a needed
> > solution for much of the human generated
> > pollution -- population causes pollution -- note
> > that all high density population areas have
> > pollution problems including air pollution --
> > people off gas continually, and frequently
> > discharge liquid pollutants and solid waste!
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > Ralph E. Cooper, Ph.D., J.D.
> > 14139 Woodstream
> > San Antonio, TX 78231
> > 210-479-5490
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lin K. Hill <l_hill@des.state.nh.us>
> > To: p2tech@great-lakes.net
> > <p2tech@great-lakes.net>; K968048@kingston.ac.uk
> > <K968048@kingston.ac.uk>
> > Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 8:16 AM
> > Subject: Cremation or burial? -Reply
> >
> > >Isn't birth control the real P2 answer to this
> > problem....?
> > >
> > >An interesting aside- I have been told that in
> > many places in Germany
> > >there is limited space for burial plots, so you
> > can bury someone in a
> > >graveyard, but you only "rent" the space for 25
> > years. Then they figure
> > >you have returned your carbon to the earth, and
> > they plop someone
> > >down on top of you. Interesting reuse of the land
> > at any rate.
> > >
> > >Burial also eliminates the volatization of the
> > mercury in dental fillings into
> > >the air... not to mention the formaldehyde for
> > preservation. But then they
> > >don't get to sprinkle your ashes anywhere
> > interesting either.....
> > >lkh
> > >