Re: The alternative to the modern (highly inefficient) toilet

[Dan Kraybill <dankray@wmrc.uiuc.edu>]

An interesting thought, since most of the world doesn't  use a flush 
toilet, and may not even know what they are.

At 09:10 AM 3/18/02 -0500, MacCormac, Deborah wrote:
>Thanks for the feedback Richard, you know the cistern thing on the roof
>sounds like a simple soution, but this option has been available to the world
>for as long as the traditional toilet and not caught on. The retrofit issues
>and the rain dependent factor make it a "questionable", if not "unrealistic"
>fix in today's world.
>I was thinking more of something along the lines of a "box or contraption"
>that fits over the top of any standard toilet tank, over the tank itself.
>Easy to install, everyone could pop it into place. It's what's inside the
>"box" that the P2 minds in this decade should be able to create. Simple,
>effective, inexpensive and environmentally benign. Any more ideas? We're
>talking 27% of domestic water use here. One good idea here and we could
>change the world!!
>Deborah MacCormac
>FDEP - P2 - Orlando
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Illig, Richard [mailto:rillig@state.pa.us]
>         Sent: Fri 15-Mar-02 1:12 PM
>         To: 'Sandy Rock '; Donald Sutherland; p2tech@great-lakes.net;
>Handzo,John
>         Cc:
>         Subject: RE: Potable Drinking Water & Wastewater
>
>
>
>
>                 Every house should have a roof-mounted method for collecting
>rain
>         water.  It could be collected in an attic tank, plumbed to toilets,
>or an
>         outside faucet for lawn/garden/car washing, and wouldn't even require
>         electricity.  Even a small 250 gallon heating fuel-type tank, once
>filled,
>         would deliver quite a few flushes at 1.5gpf.
>
>
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>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Sandy Rock [mailto:srock@pprc.org]
>         Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 11:06 AM
>         To: Donald Sutherland; p2tech@great-lakes.net; Handzo,John
>         Subject: RE: Potable Drinking Water & Wastewater
>
>
>         The Japanese have a wonderful invention that drains the graywater
>from
>         handwashing (after using the toilet) at the tap/sink on top of the
>tank into
>         the tank to be used for flushing. It's a start anyway!  Sandy Rock
>         ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>         From: "Handzo,John" <jghandzo@deq.state.va.us>
>         Reply-To: "Handzo,John" <jghandzo@deq.state.va.us>
>         Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:43:53 -0500
>
>         >I've found data on this subject from 2 sources:
>         >BOCA National Plumbing code manual used by municipal building
>inspectors
>         >Water Environment Federation has data on this topic
>http://www.wef.org/
>         >
>         >Hope this helps.
>         >       -----Original Message-----
>         >       From:   Donald Sutherland
>         [SMTP:donaldsutherland-iso14000@worldnet.att.net]
>         >       Sent:   Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:15 PM
>         >       To:     p2tech@great-lakes.net
>         >       Subject:        Potable Drinking Water & Wastewater
>         >
>         >       I am researching national wastewater reuse programs.
>         >
>         >       Can someone lead me to a source who can tell me on average
>what
>         percentage of daily potable drinking water is used by households for
>toilet
>         and washing functions?
>         >
>         >       Thanks for your help.
>         >
>         >       Cheers,
>         >       Donald Sutherland
>         >
>         >
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