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Re: Question about P2 Program Effectiveness and the "80-20rule"



Two thoughts:

1. We get a lot of people that return for our trainings, and we keep it fresh so we get continuous improvement from these plants.  It could be that those returning are predisposed to doing P2, and thus tend to be more successful.  My impression is that people who return for training every 3-5 years tend to be more successful.  They also tend to find things on the second or third cycle as often as the first.  I could be wrong though, I have never did a comprensive study.

2. While a second or third visit may start to show diminishing returns (especially on a small site), I think that follow up calls or letters are probably the single most important action.  It makes the difference between a warm fuzzy feeling and actual results.  The follow up is the key to results, whatever form it takes, visit, phone call, letters etc....

Hope this helps.

Tomas Vinson
www.srwm.org

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>>> "Butner, R Scott" <scott.butner@pnl.gov> 07/08/02 12:04PM >>>
P2TECHIES -- 

Apologies for the cross-post.  

Hope you had a bang-up 4th of July.  I returned to work today to find an
inquiry from a co-worker, who was wondering if I was aware of any
publications which document (or refute) the concept of diminishing returns
on P2 program effectiveness.  Specifically, what impact does repetition of a
training or assessment process have on its efficacy?  Does a training
workshop add as much value the 3rd or 4th time it's been repeated, as it has
on it's first instance?  Does a second P2 opportunity assessment typically
return as much insight or value to the firm as the first one did?

Intuition tells us that there is in fact a fall-off in value as these sorts
of activities are repeated.  But I wonder if intuition might be wrong in
this case?  

I would be appreciative of any pointers to publications documenting
quantitative research on this or related topics, which I could pass along to
my co-worker.  Your help in making me appear smarter and better read than I
really am will certainly accrue to your karmic account.  Given the current
market situation, it may be a rare opportunity to for account balances to
grow over the short term!  

cheers,

Scott Butner (scott.butner@pnl.gov) 
Senior Research Scientist, Data & Knowledge Engineering Group
Pacific Northwest National Laboratory
MSIN K7-28
PO Box 999, Richland, WA  99352
(509)-372-4946 voice/(509)-375-2443 fax
ChemAlliance: http://www.chemalliance.org/ 
Environmental Compliance Assistance Clearinghouse:
http://www.epa.gov/clearinghouse/ 



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