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RE: state programs for p2 planning? - TentativeTeleconferenceDate



Hi Thomas.  I haven't heard any updates about a possible conference call since Melinda's note saying she couldn't make one today.  Anything in the works?

Kathy Barwick
Office of Pollution Prevention
   and Technology Development
(916) 323-9560
fax (916) 327-4494



>>> "Thomas Vinson" <TVINSON@tceq.state.tx.us> 10/15/02 02:47PM >>>
Seems like we have some momentum for a state P2 planning teleconference.  

How would Nov. 5, 2002  at 2:30 EST work for everyone?


Tomas Vinson-Peng
www.srwm.org 

Fax: 512/239-3165
Phone: 512/239-3182

Engineering Specialist
Texas Commission on Envrionmental Quality
MC112
PO Box 13087
Austin, Tx 78711-3087
tvinson@tnrcc.state.tx.us 


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>>> Ken Zarker 10/10/02 11:57AM >>>
I have asked Thomas Vinson of my staff to set up a conference call with interested states to scope this effort. I have also asked Melinda Dower, NPPR Board member, to participate. 

We are very interested in knowing what those states with P2 planning laws are doing related to implementation.  Our state passed HB2997 which mandates our agency to provide incentives to encourage the use of EMSs.  

One of the incentives we are offering is to "exempt"  facilities which have a agency approved EMS from the P2 planning requirements.  This incentive is based on the belief the EMS incorporates the P2 Planning requirements.  

Attached is a copy of the Texas statute. Copies of the rules implementing the program and a list of incentives can be found at http://www.abouttexasems.org for copies of the rules and incentives. 

This is an important issue for us, since we are trying to align regulatory incentives offerred under the National Environmental Performance Track with our state incentives program. 

Ken Zarker, Chair
NPPR

>>> "Kathy Barwick" <KBarwick@dtsc.ca.gov> 10/10/02 11:03AM >>>
I too will not be at the NPPR meeting (somehow our region 9 meeting got scheduled the week before. . . we'll be in Santa Barbara.  tough choice!)

Like Melinda, I'm also available and interested to talk any time.  

Kathy Barwick
Office of Pollution Prevention
   and Technology Development
(916) 323-9560
fax (916) 327-4494



>>> "Melinda Dower" <Melinda.Dower@dep.state.nj.us> 10/10/02 08:04AM >>>
Unfortunately, I will not be attending the fall conference but am
available any time to talk about P2 Planning.
Melinda

>>> "Brown, Kenneth" <kenneth.brown@moea.state.mn.us> 10/10/02 10:06AM
>>>
I'll be the lone OEA rep at next weeks NPPR meeting (E2/P2 workgroup)
but if anyone would like to meet on P2 Planning I'm all for it. I will
bring the information back to Mark.
Reply individually, let me know your workgroup, and I'll track you down
in the Albright Training Center.
Ken Brown
kenneth.brown@moea.state.mn.us 
> ----------
> From: 	Kathy Barwick[SMTP:KBarwick@dtsc.ca.gov] 
> Reply To: 	Kathy Barwick
> Sent: 	Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: 	Mark.Snyder@state.mn.us; TVINSON@tceq.state.tx.us 
> Cc: 	Melinda.Dower@dep.state.nj.us; Alan Ingham; Kim Wilhelm;
lhel461@ecy.wa.gov; p2tech@great-lakes.net 
> Subject: 	RE: state programs for p2 planning?
> 
> I think this would be very interesting.  I or someone from my program
would like to participate.  
> 
> Kathy Barwick
> Office of Pollution Prevention
>    and Technology Development
> (916) 323-9560
> fax (916) 327-4494
> 
> 
> 
> >>> "Thomas Vinson" <TVINSON@tceq.state.tx.us> 10/09/02 11:26AM >>>
> I think we should have a multi-state teleconference.  We could
discuss various issues that arose as we implemented programs that
required pollution prevention.  It seems a lot of states are evaluating
their P2 programs and we could benefit from an exchange. 
> 
> Mark, do you have a list of people who responded to your inquiries? 
We could use them to organize further thinking.  
> 
> I called a couple of people in Washington.  It was amazing how
similar our experiences were.  We seem to have set almost identical
priorities in terms of how we addressed issues.  for instance, both
programs identified electronic reports as beneficial, and devoted
significant resources to development of these systems.  We also
discussed ways to get people who are compliant to actually undertake an
activity ? recall from the NPPR white paper that the purpose of P2
Planning requirements was to PROMOTE the benefits of P2.  This seems to
be a recurring theme I hear in our program and others.  How to make it
more than paper.
> 
> There was more, but I don't want to put words in their mouths, so I
will let them speak up for themselves.  They have a lot of interesting
things to say, as we all do I am sure.    I think we will find a lot of
independant evolution that produced amazingly similar outcomes.  
> 
> 
> 
> Tomas Vinson-Peng
> www.srwm.org 
> 
> Fax: 512/239-3165
> Phone: 512/239-3182
> 
> Engineering Specialist
> Texas Commission on Envrionmental Quality
> MC112
> PO Box 13087
> Austin, Tx 78711-3087
> tvinson@tnrcc.state.tx.us 
> 
> 
> Disclaimer:  Regulatory guidance  e-mails are provided to quickly get
you an answer to legal requirements.  They are not a substitute for
compliance with the regulation, but guidance based on the best
information available to the staff of TNRCC at the time.
> 
> 
> >>> "Snyder, Mark" <mark.snyder@moea.state.mn.us> 10/09/02 12:46PM
>>>
> I did get a response from Melinda regarding my post, but haven't had
a chance to get back to her to discuss this further.
> 
> Melinda can be reached at Melinda.Dower@dep.state.nj.us 
> 
> Mark
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Kathy Barwick[SMTP:KBarwick@dtsc.ca.gov] 
> > Sent: 	Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 PM
> > To: 	TVINSON@tceq.state.tx.us 
> > Cc: 	lhel461@ecy.wa.gov; Mark.Snyder@state.mn.us 
> > Subject: 	Re: state programs for p2 planning?
> > 
> > Lynn Helbrecht might have some info, or could possibly direct you
to some information on result.  I'd be interested in knowing also. 
Lynn's at (360)407-6760
> > 
> > I wonder if Mark had a chance to talk to Melinda Dower on this
topic.  I'll be interested in the outcome.
> > 
> > Kathy Barwick
> > Office of Pollution Prevention
> >    and Technology Development
> > (916) 323-9560
> > fax (916) 327-4494
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >>> "Thomas Vinson" <TVINSON@tceq.state.tx.us> 10/08/02 07:47AM
>>>
> > Does anyone know what happened when Washington allowed an EMS to be
substituted for pollution prevention planning?  Did other states try
similar things?> 
> > 
> > - What percentage of people switched to EMS programs?
> > - Did reductions continue, accelerate or level off?
> > - What types of companies opted for an EMS?  Did they tend to be
larger corporations? Were they large quantity generators?
> > - 
> > 
> > Texas is passing a similar rule in January so we have a great deal
of curiousity about this.
> > 
> > Tomas Vinson-Peng
> > www.srwm.org 
> > 
> > Fax: 512/239-3165
> > Phone: 512/239-3182
> > 
> > Engineering Specialist
> > Texas Commission on Envrionmental Quality
> > MC112
> > PO Box 13087
> > Austin, Tx 78711-3087
> > tvinson@tnrcc.state.tx.us 
> > 
> > 
> > Disclaimer:  Regulatory guidance  e-mails are provided to quickly
get you an answer to legal requirements.  They are not a substitute for
compliance with the regulation, but guidance based on the best
information available to the staff of TNRCC at the time.
> > 
> > 
> > >>> "Kathy Barwick" <KBarwick@dtsc.ca.gov> 09/30/02 11:05AM >>>
> > The Washington Department of Ecology  looked at their program a few
years back.  They came to the conclusion (among other things I don't
remember) that an EMS alternative was appropriate.  You can see their
guidance for this at http://www.ecy.wa.gov/pubs/971255hwtr.pdf 
> > 
> > Also, there is a white paper on facility p2 planning on NPPR's web
site.  Beware, there's an error right up front, that's the number of
states requiring planning (thanks Mark for finally settling the
question. . . maybe I can get NPPR staff to correct the white paper!). 
You can see the white paper at 
> > http://www.p2.org/inforesources/facil-pl.html 
> > It contains overviews of a number of state evaluations of their
planning programs and a summary of them in the appendix to the white
paper.  This was done in the 90's so things might have changed.  I'm
anxious to see responses to your note, as we (CA Dept. of Toxic
Substances Control) run a hazardous waste-based source reduction
planning program as well, since 1989, and wonder how we could improve
it.
> > 
> > And, just to correct one thing, California's program doesn't
include TRI.  It's strictly hazardous waste-related--although it does
include hazardous waste that is pretreated prior to discharge to a potw,
so we get the metal finishers etc. in our program as well.
> > 
> > 
> > Kathy Barwick
> > Office of Pollution Prevention
> >    and Technology Development
> > (916) 323-9560
> > fax (916) 327-4494
> > 
> > 
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