On Tue, July 28, 2009 2:00 pm, Rory Neuner wrote: Hi Lowell, I don't represent the SOF or the University, so I won't attempt to speak for the SOF or the University, but I can tell you from conversations that they seem very sensitive to the price tag. To clarify, what the Farm offers is not just a "course", but an intensive training program. I REALIZE IT IS AN INTENSIVE TRAINING PROGRAM BUT THE PRICE STILL MAKES IT ELITIST. Also -- I will echo Maggie on the reality of funding for our state universities, as well as the expectation in today's society that students should bear the burden of the big price tag we've put on higher ed. TO WHOSE EXPECTATION IN TODAYS SOCIETY ARE YOU REFERRING? I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SOCIALISTIC RANT ON THE DISPARITIES IN OUR SOCIETY. THE SIMPLE FACT IS WE NOW HAVE A NEW FORM OF SEGREGATION WHICH IS SEGREGATED EDUCATION, BASED ON ONE'S ABILITY TO PAY. Regarding the funding issue -- you're just in time. The Farm is hosting a Hoophouse Gala event on September 17th. Proceeds will be used to create scholarships to support the training and education of SOF students. So, given their constraints, they are moving in the direction of covering student costs. Call me if you want a ticket. I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A DONATION BUT ... THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO FUND A PROGRAM WHICH IS CRITICAL TO BRINGING A NEW MIND SET TO MICHIGAN AGRICULTURAL WHICH IS BASED ON SUSTAINABLE ORGANIC FARMING PRACTICES ... AND IS NOT BASED ON: DESTRUCTIVE FARMING PRACTICES, FOSTERED IN PART, BY EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS BEHOLDEN IN PART, TO RESEARCH GRANTS FROM: THE PETRO-CHEMICAL FERTILIZER INDUSTRY, THE PESTICIDE AND HERBICIDE INDUSTRY, THE GENETIC SEED ENGINEERING INDUSTRY, ETC. IN SHORT: THE LAST THING THOSE INDUSTRIES WANT TO SEE IS A WIDE SPREAD USE OF SUSTAINABLE ORGANIC FARMING PRACTICES, AS IT WILL IN LARGE PART, PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY WILL AND HAVE SPENT BIG MONEY TO PREVENT IT. THAT IS WHY FUNDING IS SO CRITICAL FOR ENSURING THAT EDUCATION IN SUSTAINABLE ORGANIC FARMING PRACTICES, IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE, IRREGARDLESS OF INCOME, WHO IS PRESENTLY IN MICHIGAN AGRICULTURE OR WHO WANTS A CAREER IN MICHIGAN AGRICULTURE. REGARDS, LOWELL PRAG -----Original Message----- From: enviro-mich-bounces at great-lakes.net [mailto:enviro-mich-bounces at great-lakes.net] On Behalf Of Lowell Prag Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:28 PM To: enviro-mich at great-lakes.net Subject: EM:/ Wow!!!!!!!! Sticker shock! Re: MSU Student Organic Farm accepting applications for 2010 On Tue, July 28, 2009 10:47 am, Rory Neuner wrote: ... see below ... Wow!!!!!!!! Sticker shock! It took me awhile to find the actual application page for the 9 month course: http://www.msuorganicfarm.org/Admissions_Packet.pdf The price: $7,400. Isn't that elitist and another example of educational segregation based on the ability to pay, similar to exactly what is happening in all of our universities? If the State of Michigan is serious about moving towards sustainable agriculture, one would think that funding would be provided to make the course free and the qualified applicants chosen by a random drawing if there was too many applicants for a given year, with those that were left out, given priority for the next year's program. By extension, I think that all of our public universities should be free with the federal government footing the bill, by cutting the budget for stealth bomber planes and other tools of war to protect the oil industry. As astute Eisenhower said in his last public speech when leaving the presidency, beware of the military-industrial complex distorting our political process. One should append our educational process as well. Regards, Lowell Prag ------------------ On Tue, July 28, 2009 10:47 am, Rory Neuner wrote: Passing this along on behalf of the Michigan State Student Organic Farm... Now accepting applications for 2010 Cohort of the Organic Farmer Training Program at the Michigan State University Student Organic Farm (SOF)! The Organic Farmer Training Program offers nine months of intensive instruction in year-round organic farming. The program focuses on diversified production of vegetables, flowers, fruits and herbs for local markets. Students manage all aspects of a 10-acre certified organic farm, including passive solar greenhouses used for year-round production in cold climates. Students also manage the SOF garden and field production. Produce is grown for the farm's primary markets, including a 48-week CSA, six-month on-campus farm stand, and sales to campus dining services. Students develop competencies in farm skills through trainings and through engagement in the daily operation of the farm. Hands-on training is combined with workshops, lectures, readings and assignments that build participants' knowledge and understanding of organic farming principles and practices. The program is designed to give participants a strong background in production skills as well as the knowledge, management, and decision-making skills necessary to operate a diversified small farm. Program participants include new and beginning farmers, urban and community farmers and gardeners, educators, and those interested in local or organic agriculture. Space is limited Rolling admissions Application review begins Sept 1. See attached flyer for more information You can also view the flyer online by clicking here<http://msuorganicfarm.org/2010/OFTP_info_sheet.pdf> Visit our website for full program description and application www.msuorganicfarm.org<http://www.msuorganicfarm.org/> or contact us at msufarm at msu.edu<mailto:msufarm at msu.edu> 517-230-7987 Rory L. 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