Hi Kathy-- Sediment in the river would probably still have to be dredged, then treated in a sludge impoundment or landfill. My position is, Dow created the problem, make Dow solve it. They have (or could get) the people and the facilities to do it. At present, contaminated soil from the park is being dumped in a landfill. In other words, the poison has simply been moved from one place to another. That's not good enough. If the toxic character of dioxin can be neutralized through bioremediation or any other method, it should be. Let Dow figure it out -- and pay for it. Anticipating some other objections, I would have the same authority that orders Dow to detoxify the dioxin determine, say annually, whether significant progress is being made. If sufficient progress isn't being made, the authority (EPA, federal court, Justice Department, whatever) would order Dow to increase funding for the effort by 50 percent; same every year, if necessary, until the job's done. Furthermore, I would require that Dow's efforts in this respect be open source; that is to say, no trade secrets, patents or the like. Dow would be compelled to publish its findings and progress at least every month so that other organizations, public or private, could jump in with their own project in a race to the finish line. Last but not least, a caveat: A "no-can-do" attitude seems to pervade some discussions concerning environmental rehabilitation in Michigan. I hope it's not contagious. -- Jim From: gehenry at chartermi.net To: lang.sc.oak at hotmail.com; enviro-mich at mailman.great-lakes.net Subject: Re: EM:/ Dow, EPA and dioxin Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:45:14 -0400 Jim, How would you suggest they bio-remediate it when the dioxin contamination is over 4 feet deep in the floodplain soil alone, God only knows about the river it's self. Several years ago, DEQ's Andy Hogarth commented something like- 'we kept going deeper and deeper and we didn't stop finding it'.... Kathy Henry www.trwnews.net ----- Original Message ----- From: James Lang To: enviro-mich Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: EM:/ Dow, EPA and dioxin Enviro-Michers: Does Dow Chemical have laboratories? (Does a leopard have spots?) Dow should be developing processes such as bioremediation to neutralize dioxin the company has dumped in the Saginaw basin over many years. If Dow isn't developing that technology, why doesn't EPA order the company to find an antidote to the poison it has wreaked on the Saginaw Valley? I'll bet a federal district judge would. Before long, careers that began when the extent of the dioxin threat was first understood will have ended, all while EPA and the Michigan bureaucracies dithered. What we mustn't forget is that the delay in coming to grips with the contamination in the Saginaw Valley is an abomination. And without a radically different approach, it will continue. It's often said that we live under the rule of law, not men, but that doesn't take into consideration the influence of giant corporations like Dow. Under the deft manipulation of lobbyists and corporate law departments, law is becoming the enemy of justice. If you have any doubt about that, you need only to look at the example of Exxon Valdez. -- Jim Lang NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * enviro-mich is hosted by the Great Lakes Information Network (GLIN): http://www.great-lakes.net To search the archive: http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/enviro-mich/ All views and opinions presented above are solely those of the author or attributed source and do not necessarily reflect those of GLIN or the Great Lakes Commission. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/enviro-mich/attachments/20090730/36c160aa/attachment.html