[p2tech] energy efficiecy payback - The Tool For You

A belated addition to this conversation (vacation!): E2 or P2 Finance
are wonderful tools for getting a full picture of all the relevant
costs, which is vital to get a fair comparison of alternatives to your
current practices.  

 

A very useful complement is PROJECT, a tool that EPA uses for assessing
the net present value of proposed projects (for Supplemental
Environmental Projects.  It's a program attorneys use when negotiating
settlements.  (It's very interesting in that context, because a great
project with quick payback might be bad for your negotiating position,
if EPA wants you to feel you are being punished...short paybacks may
even be prevented from being considered as SEP options, and in general,
the better the payback, the less off your penalty you will get,  unless
there are other considerations to outweigh that, such as that it has
great demonstration value.  But that's a topic for another discussion).
The reason I'm sending you this link to PROJECT -
http://www.epa.gov/compliance/civil/econmodels/index.html - is because
once you have used E2 or P2 Finance to get the full costs of both your
current practice and the alternatives, you can compare them by whipping
up an NPV for each by using PROJECT.  I say whip up because in contrast
to both E2 Finance or P2 Finance and most other software tools you will
ever use, PROJECT is extremely user friendly - quick to learn and use.  

 

 

 

From: p2tech-bounces at great-lakes.net
[mailto:p2tech-bounces at great-lakes.net] On Behalf Of Burt Hamner
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:01 PM
To: 'Kathey Ferland'; 'Vinson, Thomas';
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Subject: Re: [p2tech] energy efficiecy payback - The Tool For You

 

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An extraordinary tool for your use is E2Finance, developed in 1990s by
Tellus Institute but no longer supported.  It does just about every
financial calculation for EE investments that you need.  And its free.
I have been hosting a download of it from my website for several years.

http://cleanerproduction.com/misc/Finance.htm

 

There is a more simple version of it in Excel format, P2Finance, also
available.

 

If you use it and it's useful please let me know, I am trying to collect
user feedback.  Its the best financial analysis tool for capital
investments that no one has ever heard of.

 

Hope its helpful, 

 

Burton Hamner

Cleaner Production International LLC

www.cleanerproduction.com <http://www.cleanerproduction.com/> 

206-491-0945,  wbhamner at cleanerproduction.com 

5534 30th Ave NE, Seattle, WA 98105

Fax 206-206-339-1686

 

 

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Here's a link to a tool that calculate the savings...but it doesn't do
ROI or calculate payback.  For that, you'll need to know the project
cost, which is highly site specific.

 

Although it is called "Texas Sized Energy Savings" it can be used
anywhere.

 

http://TexasIOF.ces.utexas.edu/ under "What's New"

 

Kathey

 

Kathey A. Ferland
Project Manager
Texas Industries of the Future
10100 Burnet Rd., CEER R-7100
Center for Energy and Environmental Resources
The University of Texas at Austin
Austin, Tx  78758
Phone 512 232-4823
Fax   512 471-1720
Web Page: http://texasiof.ces.utexas.edu/
<http://texasiof.ces.utexas.edu/>  

 

 

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Are there any good manuals or guidance for figuring cost savings for
energy efficiency retrofits and payback times?

 

Thomas Vinson-Peng

Program Director

Zero Waste Network

UT Arlington 

Center for Environmental Excellence

9111 Jollyville Road Suite 111

Austin, Texas 78759

www.zerowastenetwork.org

http://www.uta.edu/ced/

 

(512) 904-2281 (MAIN)

(512) 904-2287 (Direct)

(512)904-2288 FAX

 

Tvinson AT uta.edu

 

 

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