In 2007 FDA recommended not using antibacterial soaps based on UM studies. They aren't any more effective and not only risk developing more resistant and potent bacteria but also introduce new pollutants to our wastewater and thus rivers. FYI http://www.webmd.com/news/20070817/plain-soap-as-good-as-antibacterial?p rint=true -----Original Message----- From: p2tech-bounces at great-lakes.net [mailto:p2tech-bounces at great-lakes.net] On Behalf Of Gangmark.Carolyn at epamail.epa.gov Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:59 AM To: p2tech at great-lakes.net Cc: Bell.Cathe at epamail.epa.gov Subject: [p2tech] Fw: Products for H1N1 mitigation: Could you give me yourthoughts Hello P2 Tech Community. My colleague Cathe Bell (message below) is seeking feedback re disinfectant wipes to be used this fall to help prevent cases of H1N1 in our EPA R10 office. Since many of you have expertise in this area and work in offices where similar decision making is underway... thought that we might all benefit from the collective wisdom. Thoughts??? Thanks so much. Carolyn Gangmark U.S. EPA Region 10 1200 6th Ave. Suite 900 AWT-128 Seattle, WA 98101 Phone (206) 553-4072 FAX (206) 553-8509 If we don't get climate right - nothing else matters. ----- Forwarded by Carolyn Gangmark/R10/USEPA/US on 09/09/2009 07:51 AM ----- Cathe Bell/R10/USEPA/U S To 09/08/2009 05:36 cc PM OARM-OA-SHEMD-SHEMPMGRS Subject Products for H1N1 mitigation: Could you give me your thoughts Colleagues: I'd like both your personal and professional opinion about some products that I am considering purchasing to help reduce the impact of H1N1 in our workplace this winter. I've contacted you because I value your thinking on the subject. I trust that your combined experience will help me select products that are as powerful as we might need, but as benign as possible. Here is the situation: to equip staff to reduce flu transmission in the workplace, I'm going to follow a strategy which includes 1. flu shots: both seasonal and H1N1 2. messages on ways to reduce disease transmission by personal hygiene and practices, and 3. provision of sanitizers to be used in places where disease transmission is more likely. I hesitate, for a number of reasons to bring additional chemicals into our workplace. However, the guidance I'm receiving, both internal to R10 and from CDC, encourages me to consider these as components of an public health approach which will be more effective than "business as usual." The elements are simple: a limited amount of sanitizing wipes and hand sanitizers will be stationed around the floors to be used in areas the public frequents or staff congregates. The wipes will also be made available to IT staff to destroy microbes before they handle what is likely to be contaminated equipment. I'd like your opinions on the wipe sanitizers, specifically. I've attached a sheet with the names and characteristics of some products I've investigated. I'd like to hear your opinions on whether and how to station these, and, more importantly, arguments for selecting specific products. Now, I'm going to bias you (stop reading, review the information and respond, if you'd like). I'm inclined to opt for simple chemicals rather that the various takes on benzalkonium chloride and complex antimicrobials. From what I've read, all of these products are almost equally effective. The difference between the alcohol, chlorine, and hydrogen peroxide based sanitizers and some of the more complex materials is that the latter's antimicrobial action may last a bit longer, longer on the order of hours. For our uses, I'm not sure that is critical. There are three issues I'd like to weight toward: a) that the wipes are not irritating, particularly to more sensitive members of our community, b) manufacturing of the product is relatively simple and sustainable, and c) the product does not contribute to antimicrobial resistance. Look at my list and know I'm open to your thoughts. Again, these wipes will be used to clean up after sneezing/coughing, if someone sick has been in an area, in offices where a sick person has left within 48 hours and office materials must be accessed, in public greeting areas, and to the PC Hotline and administrative support staff to use when they handle staff equipment. Note: manufacturing bleach may involve mercury cells (to be phased out by 2020), a drawback. Or they may depend on membranes. (See attached file: wipes_product comparisons for comment.doc) SHEMPMGRS: this is for your information only, so that you do not need to duplicate this work. No comments are expected, although you know I'd welcome your educated opinions! >From the Desk of Cathe Bell Safety, Health and Environmental Management US EPA Region 10, M/S OMP-077 Seattle, WA 98101 Tel: 206-553-0308 BlackBerry: 206-399-9394 Fax: 206-553-0714 OMP wants to hear from you, click here to provide feedback. Safety, Health and Environmental Management, R10 Intranet * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * p2tech is hosted by the Great Lakes Information Network (GLIN): http://www.great-lakes.net To search the archive: http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/ All views and opinions presented above are solely those of the author or attributed source and do not necessarily reflect those of GLIN or the Great Lakes Commission. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *