Hi Debby, It's hard to imagine anyone still using Perc, and in open-top 55-gallon drums. Many air districts now require the use of 100% enclosed equipment. As for substitutes, I would guess there are many. Steam, aqueous, aliphatic hydrocarbon, or terpene-blend may work. It all depends on the nature of the soil they are trying to remove. Are they cleaning the coils in manufacturing or in field use? If cleaning is part of manufacturing, then they need to look at the upstream process. Switching to a water-based lube may then allow then to clean the coils using a water rinse. Use hot DI water and remove the coils slowly from the bath and the coils will come out dry to the touch. They may need an air knife to cool the coils if they are to be immediately handled. If the coil cleaning is in the field after use, then you may be dealing with heavy crude oil and tar. I would suggest a terpene-emulsion or aliphatic hydrocarbon and terpene blend. You might also try a soybean oil based product. Look for something used to clean asphalt from tools and truck beds. Air emissions, waste handling, and disposal are other issues they will need to address in making the change. Mike Callahan, PE Jacobs Engineering 1111 S. Arroyo Parkway Pasadena CA, 91105 (626) 568-7005 office (213) 359-9805 cell -----Original Message----- From: p2tech-bounces at great-lakes.net [mailto:p2tech-bounces at great-lakes.net] On Behalf Of Valin, Debby Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 1:25 PM To: p2tech at great-lakes.net Cc: Kraemer, Janine; chemkotech at bellsouth.net Subject: [p2tech] Perc Alternatives Hi, all- We are looking for a perchloroethylene alternative for cleaning large stainless steel coils or bellows used in oil drilling. This company currently soaks the coils in perc-filled 55-gallon drums. Problems may exist with other cleaners altering the surface of the coils. I am not sure whether this is just an aesthetics issue or actually impedes the function or durability of the coils. Any help here? Janine and Mr. Jones - please correct any misinformation and supplement any missing details. Thanks, all. Debby Valin P2 Coordinator FDEP Central District 321-722-5381 OFFICE 321-229-8931 CELL The Department of Environmental Protection values your feedback as a customer. DEP Secretary Michael W. Sole is committed to continuously assessing and improving the level and quality of services provided to you. Please take a few minutes to comment on the quality of service you received. Simply click on this link to the DEP Customer Survey <http://survey.dep.state.fl.us/?refemail=Debby.Valin@dep.state.fl.us> . Thank you in advance for completing the survey. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * p2tech is hosted by the Great Lakes Information Network (GLIN): http://www.great-lakes.net To search the archive: http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/ All views and opinions presented above are solely those of the author or attributed source and do not necessarily reflect those of GLIN or the Great Lakes Commission. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.great-lakes.net/lists/p2tech/attachments/20091006/a7bcc6b7/attachment.html